What could possibly go wrong? How about this: “FBI counter-terrorism experts…have openly admitted it is virtually impossible to screen Syrian refugees.” And remember, that is Obama’s clueless and politically correct FBI, and they’re still acknowledging something that their Chief has never admitted and would not be disposed to admit.
“Democrats call for ‘flood’ of Muslims to U.S.,” by Leo Hohmann, WND, May 24, 2015:
A group of 14 Democrat senators has written a letter to President Obama urging him to “dramatically increase” the number of Syrian refugees being resettled into American cities and towns.
They say the U.S. needs to take in at least 65,000 Syrians as permanent refugees over the next year-and-a-half.
“While the United States is the largest donor of humanitarian assistance to Syrian refugees, we must also dramatically increase the number of Syrian refugees that we accept for resettlement,” says the four-page letter to Obama, copied to Secretary of State John Kerry and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.
More than 3.5 million Syrians are registered with the United Nations as refugees, and the U.N. wants to assign about 350,000 of them to so-called “third-party countries.”
The 14 senators, led by Richard Durbin, D-Ill., Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Diane Feinstein, D-Calif., cite the research of the Refugee Council USA to make their case for 65,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2016. RCUSA is the main lobbying arm of the nine agencies that contract with the federal government to resettle refugees in cities and towns across America.
The more refugees brought into the country, the more government grants doled out to the nine resettlement agencies. Among them are the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Church World Service, International Rescue Committee and the National Association of Evangelicals’ World Relief.
More than 90 percent of Syrian refugees will be Muslim
Of the 843 Syrians resettled in the U.S. since the start of the Syrian civil war, 92 percent have been Muslim and about 7 percent Christian. Syria’s overall population is 90 percent Muslim and close to 10 percent Christian.
“The vast majority of these refugees are women and children, including two million children,” the letter states, using language similar to what Democrats used to justify the entry of some 60,000 unaccompanied alien children from Central America last year. “An entire generation of Syrian children is at risk.
“More than ten thousand Syrian children have been killed, and half of Syrian refugee children are not attending school, more than one-hundred thousand are working to support their families, and thousands are unaccompanied or separated from their parents.
“[W]e urge your Administration to work to accept at least 50 percent of Syrian refugees whom UNCHR [United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees] is seeking to resettle, consistent with our nation’s traditional practice under both Republican and Democratic Presidents.”
The letter also addresses the security concerns about accepting Syrians who may have ties to the various Islamic extremist factions fighting to overthrow and replace Syrian dictator Bashar Assad. Among them are ISIS, Jabat al-Nusra and the Free Syrian Army.
“We fully support your Administration’s efforts to ensure that any potential security concerns are addressed by strengthening security checks for refugees with the latest technology and information,” the letter states.
“Refugees are the most carefully vetted of all travelers to the U.S., with extensive biometric, biographic, intelligence, and law enforcement checks involving numerous agencies,” the letter says, parroting the U.S. State Department talking points about the quality of the screening process for refugees.
The problem with that argument, however, is that it has been debunked by FBI counter-terrorism experts who have openly admitted it is virtually impossible to screen Syrian refugees, precisely because U.S. agents don’t have access to reliable biometric and law enforcement data. As WND previously reported, Michael Steinbach, deputy assistant director of the FBI counter-terrorism unit, admitted at a hearing before the House Homeland Security committee on Feb. 11 that reliable records are not available in a “failed state” like Syria….
juancolina says
I want to comment first.
For a while whenever I open one of these I get a message
“Internet Explorer has stopped working”.
So now I click on “Comments” first and it does not happen.
I can only guess who is trying to prevent the truth about ISlam being known.
Don McKellar says
Using Firefox, maybe once a week as a regular reader, I get a pop up screen that reads something like “get the Jihad Watch newsletter” and then below is a button that reads PEACE. I report it via the contact box on the bottom right of the screen. It’s obviously some sort of hack to try and do — well, who knows what, a link to plant trojans in Jihad Watch readers computers? A phishing scam?
Brian says
I stopped using Internet Explorer 5 years ago, and Firefox 3 years ago. I now use Chrome with adbock and pop-up blocker…Chrome browser is fast and secure. With JihadWatch, you may have to refresh once if contacting via email notification….that is just a security thing, nothing to worry about.
JMB says
Thank you for pointing this out. Last week I was having the same problem every time I opened or tried to comment on ANY post critical of Islam. Google Chrome was OK but IE gave me that “Stopped working” message. (I am in Australia)
I will now hit “Post Comment…”
cs says
Oh, great moronic idea.
AnneM says
Ironic, while Middle Eastern Christians who want to come to this country have to lie that they are MUSLIM in order to stay.
Brian says
Yes, Christians are not welcome, ONLY Muslim refugees…Satan is helping.
somehistory says
Yes, satan is in full hatred mode against Christians and using his beast called islam to try to destroy humanity. Christians are dying, muslims are doing the killing, but the muslims must be rescued because satan the devil is helping them to spread the world over.
They keep saying on the news that islam is the *fastest* growing *faith* in the U.S. This is why. Not because it is so wonderful and many are converting, but because they are being brought in…and not just into the U.S. but a lot of other non-muslim lands are being swamped with them.
There is method to the madness of the devil.
gravenimage says
AnneM wrote:
Ironic, while Middle Eastern Christians who want to come to this country have to lie that they are MUSLIM in order to stay.
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While it is disgusting that threatened Christians are not at least given priority, the implication that the US will not take in Christian immigrants from Syria is completely false. As noted in the article, they constitute about 10% of the immigrants from Syria at this point, which is roughly commensurate with their percentage of the population there.
The idea that Christians must masquerade as Muslims to gain entry to the US is patently untrue.
mortimer says
How about paying a Muslim country nearby to take them and after the conflict is over, they can return?
Don McKellar says
Yes. Let’s take mortimer’s money and give it to a moslem country so they can take in a moslem who will return to their own country “some day”. Brilliant, mortimer. Always thinking. Good dhimmi! By the way, that’s called jizzya.
jihad3tracker says
Hello Don — I think Mortimer actually suggests something FAR better than having those 80% of 65,000 Muslims HERE.
Do you want roughly 52,000 poorly educated / likely frail / non-assimilable new worshippers of Allah here ? How much would THAT cost year after year — in both dollars and interpersonal hostility ?
Are we Americans just supposed to accept whatever clueless “progressive” bleeding-heart pols decide ? And none of THEM will be living anywhere within 50 miles of the cities and town forced to cope with the ghettos created if this happens.
Don McKellar says
Why do you think that we must pay jizyya money to moslem countries or accept moslem immigrants? This is not an either/or issue. WHY NOT JUST SAY NO? What about stopping the problem? Start a campaign to bombard these Senators with complaints. Make this a major public issue. Fight it with all means possible. THERE IS NO REASON THAT ANY FREE PEOPLE FROM ANY MODERN ADVANCED COUNTRY HAS TO TAKE MOSLEM IMMIGRANTS! NOT ONE! NOR DO THEY HAVE TO PAY JIZHYA TO A MOSLEM COUNTRY TO “TAKE THEM OFF OUR HANDS”. THAT IS INSANE, SELF-DEFEATIST LUNATIC DHIMMI THINKING.
spot on says
I am 100% in agreement with Don McKellar on this. STOP ALL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION NOW. All Muslims bring the Koran with them and pass it on. A certain percentage of Koran readers will kill kuffirs like us as they have been doing for 1400 years without interruption. There is no need to join Democrat Jim Jones suicide.
Porky The Crusader says
I don’t help muslims, they don’t deserve it.
Don McKellar says
One wonders how much payolla has been slipped the Senators’ way by concerned shadowy moslem “citizens” and how else they’ve been influenced, shamed, tricked into doing this. No doubt Obama will feel “compelled” to act on “humatiarian grounds” and will open up the floodgates as soon as he thinks he can get away with it.
“Mo’ muslims! Mo’ muslims!” Obama shouted as he rubbed his hands with glee.
tilda says
Interesting question.
It’s being reported in the news that seven (7) FIFA executives including vice president are being held in Zurich over 100 million (UK pounds) bribes claim. And that’s just football….
Money and power. Add sociopaths and stir.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-3098630/Several-FIFA-officials-arrested-Zurich-corruption-charges.html
Marty says
Only refugees whose ideology is to destroy America can be admitted to the United States. We are as dedicated to self-destruction as the doomed Europeans.
spot on says
You are right. No different than what Jim Jones did to his believers. He even used a favorite kids drink and a lot of people still like drinking that popular drink.
Bezelel says
Why not send the 14 bureaucrats to Syria and leave them there. They have more concern for them than they do us.
Richie says
I wonder if the Christians being oppressed and wiped out by Muslims are also being invited to the US- or if this invitation is only to Muslims?
Of course these unskilled and uneducated Muslim animals will never look for work but will live off welfare- whiuch is just what the leftists want
RonaldB says
Well, as to your question of whether the refugees are Christian or Muslim:
http://www.wnd.com/2014/12/u-n-sending-thousands-of-muslims-to-america/
The US is giving refuge to Muslim Syrians on the grounds that the Muslims are victims of the Syrian government persecution, and therefore meet the standards of political refugees. The Christians are victims of non-government persecution (ISIS and the other Muslim rebel groups) and therefore, not eligible for persecuted refugee status.
Of course, the refugee situation in the US is fluid. The US government is constantly devising ways of bringing in dangerous refugees. Go to this link for up-to-date information:
https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com/author/acorcoran/
Brian says
Of course only Muslims are allowed in the the USA and Europe. They are victims because they murder and annihilate Christians.
spot on says
RonaldB, I noticed the string containing our illustrative debate of where this is all likely heading was entirely dropped. Possibly by accident.
underbed cat says
About 2 years ago I googled refugee resettlement for the state that I live in hoping that my state would not be a destination but I found many counties had already been selected. I was shocked. A local newspaper had a article about the Somali’s refugees that were used in the movie..from Minnesota…The the population estimates that were quoted by the locals as verses the authorities, shocked me.I believe that the Dept. of Child Services, along with the United Nations (which is a majority muslim body) selected the countries for the refugees. It does not surprise me that the heavy union government agency would be leftist democrats. Somali is somewhat lawless, majority muslim population that are victims themselves but also create chaos hijacking ships for bounty. To plant muslims in the land of infidels could become a serious national security problem and a threat to civilians as the populations grow…I means big number throughout the country. Accommodated by mosques and organizations they are living out the Islamis duty of conquering lands looking at first to be innocents. I thought that a future muslim army could be arriving or is already here since there are many mega mosques about 2500 in our country almost in every state. Who knew? A rural invasion looking pious until you study the subject. We are in deep trouble, this could be his votes or army.
underbed cat says
Additionally, his comments that Isis, al queda, houthis, hamas etc are not connected by doctrine of jihad and sharia is a fib with big consequences.
Bezelel says
fundamental change. I didn’t like it when I first heard it and I like it less now.
Luke Peters says
Call me crazy, but how about not supporting the armed uprising in Syria with money, propaganda and weapons which caused the civil war in Syria and the rise of ISIS, and the humanitarian tragedy that is unfolding? No war, no refugees, no problem. Who are these people that make a career out of F**ing up humanity?
underbed cat says
Islam is a religion of warfare fluctuation, retreating at times to regroup, becoming aggressive when the conditions accommodate aggression…and political goals are getting accomplished..The isis leader has announced that Islam is a religion of war. It will be derided in the media or ignored as a joke but he is telling the truth and calling out to the umah to act. J.W, UTT, and CjR are great sources of information very informative..This information is not fun…hence I stay under the bed.
RonaldB says
I will give the most benign interpretation possible to this proposal by Democratic senators, and say they genuinely feel that it is morally right for the US to give refuge to the people affected by the Syrian fighting. I won’t consider the idea that the Democrats might think the flux of refugees will add to the Democratic political base.
It is the responsibility of political leaders to think of their country and their constituency first. It is not the responsibility of the United States to protect and shelter everyone in the world who is persecuted or in danger. They will have to be left to their own devices. Any refugee or immigrant must be evaluated solely on whether his presence would be a net benefit to the United States. The interests of the US come first, before any humanitarian concern. It is obvious to anyone who studies the situation that Muslim immigrants are a huge net minus to the United States.
Their argument is, the United States didn’t give refuge to the Jews in World War II, resulting in their deaths, and we must never do that again. And, it’s true. Hitler said that he would be glad to allow the Jews to immigrate to other countries. No other countries wanted them, including and especially the United States and Britain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89vian_Conference
I guess we have to face that question.
Now, Jews are a very intelligent, very productive population, of huge benefit to any host country. But, the question remains: is the US obligated to give refuge to Jews under attack just because they are under attack? My thesis is that it is more important to maintain the self-interest of the United States as the primary goal. Under that principle, the admission of immigrants would be based strictly on what they would contribute to the country. Does anyone have any doubt that by that criterion, many more Jews (and Christians) than Muslims would be admitted, by any rational standards?
Fortunately, the rational self-interest of the United States corresponds in many (not in all) cases of moral decision. It is in the self-interest of the United States to give Israel complete political support in international forums such as the UN, stacked in favor of the Muslim countries and their determination to eliminate Israel as a Jewish presence. It is in the self-interest of the United States to support a Christian state that finally decides to expel most Muslims and maintain itself as a state pretty much devoted to enlightenment principles.
It was the US and NATO forces that bombed the Bosnian Serbs into submission, and created Bosnia as a Muslim entity. The fallacy there was to assume that immoral acts on the part of the Bosnian Serb militia automatically negated the right of the Bosnians to decide their own fate. Also, the decision was made by President Bill Clinton, who history shows to have been, and to be, solely focused on his own profit.
cs says
USA and Europe as whole acted like pricks on Jews, there is no question about that, now what? The most hateful and hostile people ever in the planet in modern history, Mohammedans, yes, they can get access to anything, it is just a mind Fxxx.
underbed cat says
The ME is huge, has lots of land….they can’t find an area of safety in their region? Islam creates wars, kills Jews and Christians then sends Muslims to foreign lands with the ideology firmly in place that they are going to infidel lands, to multiply and disrupt. But they will be sent as refugees. Osama Bin Laden in his writings wanted this to occur and to destroy our economy. Osama Bin Laden wants Sharia law to establish a world caliphate. We were fighting a war and defending lands in the middle east without the knowledge of the ideology of jihad, sharia, deception and the understanding of the islamic umah that unites these lands. How to first unravel this mess means not to spread it, ignore it or accommodate.
Thom says
My suggestion is the Democrats who propose bringing in more Muslim refugees as oppose to Christian bring them to their home state and district, Maybe Diane Feinstein can house a few families in one of her million dollar homes. She also can keep track of them to make sure they aren’t radicalized also.
spot on says
Good idea. Maybe Dianne has granddaughters the Muslims would like to meet. This is the problem with these elitists. They can go home to their personal Island and isolate themselves while the rest of the country has to deal with the terrible cost and problems with Muslim immigrants.
Jaladhi says
Yeah, that’s a very “wise” Dem strategy – bring in more terrorists. Of course why would the government object. These morons will get us all killed!
manuel paleologus says
The Demo strategy is anti-American and these people are just a bunch of morons. They are the ones who destroy America. They had brought here all the insane life styles and they are all perverts.
Edward says
Democrats = Liberalism…..is America’s spiritual in-house enemy…..the scourge of our religious faith and moral stance. I can name a litany of things that left leaning politicians have caused in the tarnishing of AMERICA’S morality, but naming only one would suffice to incite a thought about of the total secularization of America.
The banning of ‘The 10 Commandments’ in public places.
Liberals hate the God of The 10 Commandments having a prominent role in our lives.
secularization: to make secular; separate from religious or spiritual connection or influences; make worldly or unspiritual. – dictionary.com
miriamrove says
How about 65,000 Christians instead. You can be sure they are not going to blow anyone up. M
JMB says
Assuming only 1% are so called radical that is 650 new terrorists. Also it will be 65,000 Obama voters.
Does anyone out there know just how many Christians are refused entry to the USA? Be they Afrikaans farmers or Syrian orthodox, they are all facing immediate genocide.
Angemon says
Those senators wouldn’t happen to have opposed American military intervention on Syria, would they?
So America can’t police the world but must run its poorhouse and collect the crazies who want to destroy it? Talk about suicidal tendencies… Why don’t those senators simply grab a bomb vest and blow themselves up in a mall or something (ideally in whatever mosque outfits them)? It would cost less American lives and money in the long run…
spot on says
Maybe an open field would be better than a mall. A Mosque would be ok.
sheik yer'mamih says
These ‘Democrats’ are just the usual suspects who seek to damage the U.S. beyond repair. They need to be put on notice.
carl1238 says
The headline of the story should have been: “Ob*ma tells Democrat Senators to urge Ob*ma to “dramatically increase” Mooselum refugee flow to the US.”
pongidae rex says
Look at the number of children per woman in failed Islamic states, and look at the number of children per woman in places like Europe and the USA. The core issue is that the Muslim world has become grossly overpopulated, and its young people have absolutely nothing in the way of a future other than joining Islamist terror groups or emigrating to the West. So now, all those fertile Muslims want to come to the West and start the next cycle of this insanity. And our leaders thinkk this is a great idea.
RonaldB says
“Muslim world has become grossly overpopulated, and its young people have absolutely nothing in the way of a future other than joining Islamist terror groups”
When the Muslims come to the land of opportunity, their children, and sometimes them, still participate in jihad. It’s more than sitting around bored and getting involved in the innocent mischief of harassing kuffars and blowing bombs at public events. Islam has an aggressive, expansionist philosophy, one of who’s primary components is the disruption by any means necessary, of the host country’s culture and institutions. The Muslim subversive is completely indifferent as to whether the means are violent or non-violent, but since the first phase or two of the Muslim takeover begins with a weak Muslim presence, the first Muslims to push for accommodation do so peacefully. They use this peacefulness as an argument in favor of accommodation, until they become strong enough to support violence.
Agent of Liberty says
They are clueless! And unfortunately in power. I feel helpless to stop this immigration. Don’t they realize they are just lowering the standard of living for us!
Bleeding heart assoles!
duh_swami says
They know perfectly well they are lowering the American standard of living…The Idea is not to bring third world living standards up to ours, but to reduce ours to theirs…
Islofob IS-1 says
More push for a Global, progressive, one world order. Nation states are the cause of all trouble, so they push to remove all connections to our past and culture. It really is quite simple, make us all live together under a united world, and everything they do is with that in mind ,and action.
Until people with ability to reason reject the N.W.O. ,and the death cult known as islam, the world will continue to lean forward into chaos and madness.
Londo says
I see. A H1jihad-visa. Very clever. What woukd the US do with STEM Ph.D’s when you can import thousands resentful bearded guys which will recite the quran for you under one minute flat.
voegelinian says
From the linked WND report:
“I just don’t think you can go and get it,” Steinbach said. “You’re talking about a country that’s a failed state, does not have any infrastructure so to speak. So all the data sets, the police, the intel services, that you would normally go to and seek that information, don’t exist.”
“And that obviously raises a grave concern of being able to do proper background checks on individuals coming into the country?” Katko asked.
“Yes,” Steinbach responded.
Given this — and given the nature of the enemy (a nature with a lot of moving parts which only one who has informed himself (such as, for example, reading Jihad Watch carefully over the weeks, months, years would realize) — the most prudent thing to do, at the very least, would be to prejudicially screen out all Muslims from that region. Beyond that, an informed and literate understanding of the nature of the enemy would lead us to a universally, generally, comprehensively prejudicial screening out of all Muslims (of course I mean “universally, generally, comprehensively” in an “as-best-we-can” spirit).
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“the most prudent thing to do, at the very least, would be to prejudicially screen out all Muslims from that region. Beyond that, an informed and literate understanding of the nature of the enemy would lead us to a universally, generally, comprehensively prejudicial screening out of all Muslims
And yet, you mocked a JW regular who said muslim immigration to America should be halted…
uh_swami says
I wonder how many of these Senators would be willing to house a few Syrian families, feed them and take care of them, until they get settled, get jobs and can live on their own? Diane? Dick? Anyone?
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
Of Course – America is now “Ruled”, by a DEMOCRAT Administration, apparent “Pro Islam, Pro Muslim, seemingly Anti America, Anti Constitution, Anti Christian, Anti Israel, “Imperial” Potus, and according to HIS OWN DOCUMENTED Actions, Deeds, and Words, such as “Islam has always been part of America”, “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”, and many more. the Obama Administration WANTS Muslims Infiltrating America, WITH Sharia Law REPLACING the U.S. Constitution, which IS the Supreme Law of the Land in America.
http://www.infiltratednation.com/2015/05/isis-exposed-hellish-reality-of-radical.html#more “ISIS Exposed : The Hellish Reality of Radical Islam (Coming to America)”
Tom W Harris says
Dick Turban strikes again!
abad says
Muslims do NOT belong in the USA – they hate us all and want to murder us like they did on 9-11!!!
dumbledoresarmy says
In all our various countries, we jihadwatchers need to be lobbying the relevant politicians and stating firmly that we are more than happy to take in Syrian – that is, Assyrian – *Christians*. *Christians*, from both Mesopotamia (“Iraq”) and Syria proper. And to *prioritise* them; to open up *all* the available places to them, and them alone. To discriminate in *their* favour. Because they are being subjected to outright genocide. By *Muslims*.
Most of the Muslims in Syria are Sunni Muslims. Sunni Muslims are in *no* danger of being wiped out as a group. Nor are Shiite Muslims. There are millions and millions of them. And there are lots of Muslim-dominated countriies that can and should receive their fellow Muslims if in trouble. Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia can take the Sunnis, Iran can take the Shiites. After all: it’s Turkey, Qatar and Saudi Arabia on the one hand, and Iran on the other, that are busy ‘stirring the pot’ in Syria. And Iraq. Let them clean up their own mess.
But in 2010 there were no more than 1.4 million Christians in Syria – mostly Assyrian by ethnicity, some also “Greek” and some Armenians – and in all of Iraq there were just 500,000 left (a lot fewer now). 1.9 million people, total.
It would be *no* problem for the majority-culturally-Christian countries of the world – Australia, Canada, NZ, USA, western Europe, and for that matter, Christian countries outside of ‘the west’ proper, such as Russia, or the Philippines – to open their doors and distribute amongst themselves *every single surviving Syrian and Iraqi Christian. We’re talking about a total of just under 2 million people; divide that amongst 20 or 30 countries-of-destination and no-one would be swamped in the slightest; and we *know* that, being Christians, they will assimilate and integrate; they won’t plot mass-murder and mayhem.
We should not be afraid of writing to our Immigration ministers and saying loud and clear: Take the Syrian *Christians*. Discriminate in their favour. Bump them up to the *front* of the queue.
Groups like Barnabas Fund, who have been working with these persecuted and endangered Christians for decades, who have Christian workers who know the language/s, could be called in to help screen the intake so we know we *were* getting Christians rather than Muslims who were pretending to be what they ain’t.
Wellington says
With you as usual, dda. I fear, though, that ignorance of Islam still remains the greatest threat (and not Islam itself) to the preservation of Western liberty. As an example, just imagine what these 14 Democratic US Senators who have called for far greater Syrian refugee immigration to the US accurately know about Islam. Point proven I would contend.
RonaldB says
“And there are lots of Muslim-dominated countriies that can and should receive their fellow Muslims if in trouble.”
Let’s be realistic. We know the Muslim countries are not going to take Muslim refugees. Islam is a highly tribal structure, and members of a tribe have no loyalty to anyone outside the tribe….plus, Muslim understand that allowing an outsider into your borders puts you in grave danger. Muslims will be the last to admit Muslim refugees, and with very good reason.
Lebanon provided refuge for many thousands of Muslim refugees from the West Bank, when they were expelled by Jordan for subverting their host state. So, what did these refugees do? They subverted and persecuted the Lebanese who gave them refuge. Now, nobody in the Middle East wants the Palestinians on their territory, and with very good reason.
It’s the duty of the government to protect its own country. If it can’t or won’t do that, it should resign. I feel sorry for peoples caught in the jaws of war and terror, but I’m not about to let them come into my living room…or into my country, if I have any say about it. They will simply have to live or die by their own devices.
gravenimage says
Ronald B wrote:
Lebanon provided refuge for many thousands of Muslim refugees from the West Bank, when they were expelled by Jordan for subverting their host state. So, what did these refugees do? They subverted and persecuted the Lebanese who gave them refuge.
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And note, Ronald, that this was in the 1970s, when Lebanon was likely still majority-Christian, if just barely. Brigitte Gabriel covered her own experiences growing up in Lebanon during this period in her powerful book, “Because They Hate”.
gravenimage says
“While the United States is the largest donor of humanitarian assistance to Syrian refugees, we must also dramatically increase the number of Syrian refugees that we accept for resettlement,” says the four-page letter to Obama, copied to Secretary of State John Kerry and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.
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In other words, we are *already* helping these Mohammedans. But as expected, it is *never* enough.
More:
More than 3.5 million Syrians are registered with the United Nations as refugees, and the U.N. wants to assign about 350,000 of them to so-called “third-party countries.”
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Will any of those “third-party countries” be in Dar-al-Islam? Indonesia, perhaps, or Malaysia or Turkey or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? I wouldn’t count on it. Instead, expect all of these countries to be in the civilized West.
More:
The 14 senators, led by Richard Durbin, D-Ill., Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Diane Feinstein, D-Calif., cite the research of the Refugee Council USA to make their case for 65,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2016. RCUSA is the main lobbying arm of the nine agencies that contract with the federal government to resettle refugees in cities and towns across America.
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It is now profitable for these agencies to *lobby* the US governments for taxpayer money. And these senators will doubtless want this resettlement in their own states—*my* own state, in the case of Diane Feinstein—likely without considering what *else* they are bringing in, namely Mohammedans fresh from an active JIhad zone.
More:
The more refugees brought into the country, the more government grants doled out to the nine resettlement agencies. Among them are the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Church World Service, International Rescue Committee and the National Association of Evangelicals’ World Relief.
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Notice that all of these charitable agencies are Christian, Jewish, and secular—the same groups that *always* provide charity to Muslims. You certainly don’s find many Muslims funding clinics, orphanages, or disaster relief.
Of course, it would be even worse if there were Muslim agencies involved—they would likely be siphoning off taxpayer money directly to fund violent Jihad, instead of merely inadvertently like these well-meaning but clueless Infidels.
More:
More than 90 percent of Syrian refugees will be Muslim
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That’s the problem. If these were all Christians in distress, there would be no issue.
More:
“[W]e urge your Administration to work to accept at least 50 percent of Syrian refugees whom UNCHR [United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees] is seeking to resettle, consistent with our nation’s traditional practice under both Republican and Democratic Presidents.”
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They want America to take *half* of this lot—over *one million* Syrians, the vast majority of them Muslims. And that’s as it stands now—I don’t believe the end is in sight. How many of these will be violent JIhadists? Beyond that, how many seek the eventual imposition of Shari’ah law?
We have some idea: about 30% of Syrians say that Shari’ah must be the only source of legislation, and about 60% say it should be a source of legislation. Less than 10% say it should not be a source of legislation.
Do we expect them to change their minds when they come to the free West?
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Shariah
More:
The letter also addresses the security concerns about accepting Syrians who may have ties to the various Islamic extremist factions fighting to overthrow and replace Syrian dictator Bashar Assad. Among them are ISIS, Jabat al-Nusra and the Free Syrian Army…
“Refugees are the most carefully vetted of all travelers to the U.S., with extensive biometric, biographic, intelligence, and law enforcement checks involving numerous agencies,” the letter says, parroting the U.S. State Department talking points about the quality of the screening process for refugees.
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As noted, this vetting would be almost impossible even if we accepted data from the Syrian government, which we do not.
So—what sort of additions to our polity will these Muslim “refugees” make to our society? Here’s how some of them showed their gratitude to Sweden earlier this year:
“Sweden: Syrian “refugees” complain it’s too cold, demand metropolitan atmosphere”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/sweden-syrian-refugees-complain-its-too-cold-demand-metropolitan-atmosphere
And, of course, that’s before they even settle in.
Here’s more on the main concern, from WND:
“Syrian refugee program called back door for jihadists”
http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/syrian-refugee-program-called-back-door-for-jihadists/
gravenimage says
“While the United States is the largest donor of humanitarian assistance to Syrian refugees, we must also dramatically increase the number of Syrian refugees that we accept for resettlement,” says the four-page letter to Obama, copied to Secretary of State John Kerry and Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.
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In other words, we are *already* helping these Mohammedans. But as expected, it is *never* enough.
More:
More than 3.5 million Syrians are registered with the United Nations as refugees, and the U.N. wants to assign about 350,000 of them to so-called “third-party countries.”
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Will any of those “third-party countries” be in Dar-al-Islam? Indonesia, perhaps, or Malaysia or Turkey or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia? I wouldn’t count on it. Instead, expect all of these countries to be in the civilized West.
More:
The 14 senators, led by Richard Durbin, D-Ill., Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Diane Feinstein, D-Calif., cite the research of the Refugee Council USA to make their case for 65,000 Syrian refugees by the end of 2016. RCUSA is the main lobbying arm of the nine agencies that contract with the federal government to resettle refugees in cities and towns across America.
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It is now profitable for these agencies to *lobby* the US governments for taxpayer money. And these senators will doubtless want this resettlement in their own states—*my* own state, in the case of Diane Feinstein—likely without considering what *else* they are bringing in, namely Mohammedans fresh from an active JIhad zone.
More:
The more refugees brought into the country, the more government grants doled out to the nine resettlement agencies. Among them are the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops, Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Service, Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society, Church World Service, International Rescue Committee and the National Association of Evangelicals’ World Relief.
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Notice that all of these charitable agencies are Christian, Jewish, and secular—the same groups that *always* provide charity to Muslims. You certainly don’s find many Muslims funding clinics, orphanages, or disaster relief.
Of course, it would be even worse if there were Muslim agencies involved—they would likely be siphoning off taxpayer money directly to fund violent Jihad, instead of merely inadvertently like these well-meaning but clueless Infidels.
More:
More than 90 percent of Syrian refugees will be Muslim
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That’s the problem. If these were all Christians in distress, there would be no issue.
RonaldB says
Gravenimage,
I always marvel at your ability to pull together multiple details.
I may have to part company with some of the posters here. I absolutely do not think any country should take in refugees unless each refugee can be shown to be a future positive benefit to the country. The defining principle for accepting immigrants should be the self-interest of the host country, and not the fact that the refugee needs a haven.
In the case of the 60,000 South American children without parents or family the administration tried to, or succeeded in, foisting upon us, the children are obviously without education, from histories of very violent, very chaotic cultures, most likely with very little innate ability to adapt to American culture. Most likely, the majority of them will drift into criminal activities or welfare dependence, with no emotional ties to the US culture. They will degrade the school systems, the social services, and the security services. Oh, and they’ll probably serve as the center of a huge effort to bring in the relatives who will pop up once the citizenship of these “parent-less” children is legally established.
And likely, it will be claimed most of these children had a Christian background, being from South America.
The effort to overwhelm any immigration control is a result of an obvious intention by the Obama administration to dilute and disrupt any cultural identity or social cohesion in US communities. By the way, this is exactly the first stage of jihad as defined by S.K. Malik in “The Koranic Concept of War.” The beginning or ‘dawa’ stage of jihad is a “nonviolent” effort to disrupt confidence in the host culture and its institutions.
And I’m one who feels the US has a great responsibility for the chaos and catastrophe in the Middle East: from supporting the overthrow of established, somewhat secular governments in Iraq, Egypt, Libya, and Syria, and supporting “rebels” who turned out to be jihadists. Yes, the US has a great share of the blame, but I’m still not willing to throw our culture to the wolves and allow the barbarians in. It may not be justice, but it’s survival.
Sabri S. says
Ronald,
The only culture you need for fulfillment is islam.
How about taking the name hassan or hakim?
In islam, there are none of these illogical geographic
Boundaries. There are also no ever changing man made
Laws which only maintain a satanic status quo….just
A little real world education…..
Angemon says
Sabri S. posted:
“In islam, there are none of these illogical geographic
Boundaries.”
No, you have illogical, made up ones. Where does exactly dar-al-harb ends and dar-al-islam begins?
RonaldB says
“The only culture you need for fulfillment is islam.”
Sabri,
I’ll pretend you can understand a rational reply.
Islam is not a culture. Islam forbids art, drama, music, dancing, and free expression (true philosophy). I can’t imagine an emptier existence. The only successful endeavor of Islam is to spread itself. In that feature, it’s in the company of the HIV virus and (prior to antibiotics) the syphilis bacteria.
After Islam conquered the vibrant cultures of the Christian Middle East, and Eastern Europe, once Islam consumed the resources developed by the non-Muslim, Islam just stayed stagnant. It contributed neither science, architecture or art to the world. I know that Islamists claim that Islam preserved the Greek and Roman culture, but the truth is, knowledge persisted in spite of, rather than because of, Islam.
The peace and certainty of a Muslim is akin to putting your head in a sack, shutting out the entire world, and appreciating the peace that brings. You don’t have to worry about points of view that are different from your own, because you simply kill the thinker. The Islamic solution to an awful lot of situations is to kill someone. That’s the extend of Islamic creativity.
Angemon says
Sabri S. posted:
“The only culture you need for fulfillment is islam.”
Here’s a slice of islamic “culture”:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3097092/Islamic-preacher-warns-men-masturbate-hands-PREGNANT-look-offspring-afterlife.html
Do you believe that, Sabri? Do you believe that men who masturbate will get their hands pregnant and will have hand-babies to look after in the afterlife?
gravenimage says
The vicious Sabri S. wrote, replying to RonaldB:
Ronald,
The only culture you need for fulfillment is islam.
How about taking the name hassan or hakim?
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How many of these refugees, victims of their own savage coreligionists, are feeling the “fulfillment” of Islam right now?
But Muslims, as always, are not allowed to see that it is Islam itself that is the cause of their woes.
And so, they will continue to try to infect any host country well-meaning enough to take them in with the violence of Islam.
And good people like Ronald B would never feel the “fulfillment” of Islam. Savage Mohammedans like Sabri S. are simply incapable of understanding that civilized people have no interest in oppressing vulnerable people, pressing victims into slavery, and raping 9-year-old children.
More:
In islam, there are none of these illogical geographic
Boundaries.
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Ah…right. And that’s why, as I noted, no Muslim country will be taking in these refugees. In Islam, the concept of national borders is a very fluid concept—immaterial when it comes to the spread of Islam, but inviolable when it comes to protecting themselves.
More;
There are also no ever changing man made
Laws which only maintain a satanic status quo….
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This is, of course, code for the brutality of Shari’ah Law—where Mohammedans believe that they are enjoined by God to amputate the hands of petty thieves, behead journalists and aid workers, and stone rape victims to death.
More:
just
A little real world education…..
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Oh, we’ve had *plenty* of “real world” education from Muslims in the past few years—mostly in the fact of over 25,000 Jihad terror attacks…
Angemon says
RonaldB posted:
“Gravenimage,
I always marvel at your ability to pull together multiple details.”
Yeah, GI is undoubtedly a valuable, welcome part to this site by now 🙂
“I may have to part company with some of the posters here. I absolutely do not think any country should take in refugees unless each refugee can be shown to be a future positive benefit to the country. The defining principle for accepting immigrants should be the self-interest of the host country, and not the fact that the refugee needs a haven.”
I don’t think anyone here would disagree with that assertion. I think voegelinian was the only user I’ve seen scoffing at the idea of stoping muslim immigration but he’s by no means representative of what the majority of people here feel or think.
Or are you talking about the users who say “why are we taking muslims? We should stick to minorities persecuted by muslims”? If that’s the case, I don’t know now many of them feel Western nations should take in refugees out of principle and how many feel that, if they are taking in refugees, at least take in people who are escaping persecution rather than their persecutors.
As an European, I wholeheartedly agree with you. A country should be able to choose whoever gets to cross its borders. It’s a privilege, not a right. And now the EU wants to force its member states to take in “refugees” (of course, some member states are exempt of that obligation). Well, why should we? There’s enough poverty in Europe, why should we be forced to take in, and provide for, unqualified people whose language, culture and values are so alien to as as ours are to them? Why should we be forced to take in people who already have an established model of what the perfect social order would be – sharia – and are coming here not to abide by our rules, customs and values but to impose theirs on us, when their values created the mess they’re running away from?
gravenimage says
Angemon, thank you and Ronald B for your kind words. They are much appreciated.
Gordon Miller says
Good comment. I agree with you— and would add that Muslims, devout and otherwise, do not on average blend in very well with a host country. So, rather than accepting the mores and ethos of the USA, Muslims will most likely try to force us to change or adapt to theirs. For example, we have the experience of Muslims here trying to change the curricula and dietary offerings in many school systems to spread their word and traditions.
Further, It’s almost unbelievable that a cadre of Democrats would now ask the administration to bring in more and more Muslims to our shores. What is this, some form USA masochism? And they really did not have to ask; our Dear Leader will gladly give that order on his own.
spot on says
Graven and RonaldB,…I like your comments. May I weigh in.
Charity is what Christians and Jews do. Muslims are opportunists. Muslims help only Muslims under their political control, if then. But charity is part of the Judeo-Christian spirit. However, I fully agree that we should stop all aid to Muslims and stop all immigration completely unless it is to our direct economic advantage. My reasoning for Muslims is simple…we are at war with Muslims whether we like it or not. They and their religion have repeatedly declared war on us but we refuse to accept this. Our “polite TV conversation” society will not even discuss it.
I am sure that few would stop charitable works for actual non-enemy needy people but to provide charity to our enemy is either suicide or treason. To immigrate the enemy into our country is definitely suicide or treason. All economically non-essential immigration of any sort should stop during times of major unemployment such as now. All immigration anytime should also be legal-only and we must protect our borders from infiltration by the enemy and other illegal immigrants. Legal immigration should be only for the economic benefit of our country right now. I know you two don’t need this but for those living outside “realville”, I offer this example comparing to horses: If we had limited pasture for our personal 100 horses and there were 100,000 horses somewhere else at serious risk, it would be completely insane and terribly destructive to try to take 100,000 horses into our limited 100 horse pasture.
The problem in Western countries I believe is that we are in the stage of things where politicians and government try to keep everything in the grey area. It is kept there out of an abundance of hubris, dishonesty, and a self destructive rebellious instincts. We have not yet recognized the Muslim enemy even though the enemy clearly states who they are and their intentions to destroy us. They have declared war against us. The enemy has left no doubt with anyone living in “realville” but most people do not wish to live there and do not want to see this reality. We are at dangerously historic low employment percentage levels. The economy is near the breaking point. Globalists do not care about us and they take care of only themselves. They are dishonest to us about their intentions. If we become a third world country, they don’t give a damn. They exert very strong influence on our leaders in both parties. Immigrating anyone right now with empty stomachs (especially our enemies) is complete suicide and will make us a third world country fast.
quotha raven says
Spot On, Graven and RonaldB – You are all so brilliantly concise and clear – your above discussion is exactly what all rational Americans would embrace, if only they thought it through. All three of you have expressed what I blurt out in disorganized fashion…))) Thank you for organizing my thoughts and expressing so well and for sharing them with all the JWers here. Cheers! Quotha
gravenimage says
thanks, Quotha! Always good to hear from you.
gravenimage says
Good post, Spot On. One point: you wrote:
The problem in Western countries I believe is that we are in the stage of things where politicians and government try to keep everything in the grey area. It is kept there out of an abundance of hubris, dishonesty, and a self destructive rebellious instincts.
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I believe there is one other reason for this obfuscation, Spot On—”political correctness”. For instance, my own senator, Dianne Feinstein, it not actually a particularly evil person. She has, in fact, at times spoken out against Jihad terror, and even has some awareness that Shari’ah law is a brutal system. But like so many in the West, she simply cannot bring herself to realize the full extent of the threat of Islam, and that a huge influx of Muslims—especially from an active Jihad zone—is an open invitation to bring more terrorists into our nation.
gravenimage says
More:
“[W]e urge your Administration to work to accept at least 50 percent of Syrian refugees whom UNCHR [United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees] is seeking to resettle, consistent with our nation’s traditional practice under both Republican and Democratic Presidents.”
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They want America to take *half* of this lot—almost *two million* Syrians, the vast majority of them Muslims. And that’s as it stands now—I don’t believe the end is in sight. How many of these will be violent JIhadists? Beyond that, how many seek the eventual imposition of Shari’ah law?
We have some idea: about 30% of Syrians say that Shari’ah must be the only source of legislation, and about 60% say it should be a source of legislation. Less than 10% say it should not be a source of legislation.
Do we expect them to change their minds when they come to the free West?
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_-_Shariah
More:
The letter also addresses the security concerns about accepting Syrians who may have ties to the various Islamic extremist factions fighting to overthrow and replace Syrian dictator Bashar Assad. Among them are ISIS, Jabat al-Nusra and the Free Syrian Army…
“Refugees are the most carefully vetted of all travelers to the U.S., with extensive biometric, biographic, intelligence, and law enforcement checks involving numerous agencies,” the letter says, parroting the U.S. State Department talking points about the quality of the screening process for refugees.
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As noted, this vetting would be almost impossible even if we accepted data from the Syrian government, which we do not.
So—what sort of additions to our polity will these Muslim “refugees” make to our society? Here’s how some of them showed their gratitude to Sweden earlier this year:
“Sweden: Syrian “refugees” complain it’s too cold, demand metropolitan atmosphere”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/sweden-syrian-refugees-complain-its-too-cold-demand-metropolitan-atmosphere
And, of course, that’s before they even settle in.
Here’s more on the main concern, from WND:
“Syrian refugee program called back door for jihadists”
http://www.wnd.com/2015/02/syrian-refugee-program-called-back-door-for-jihadists/
John says
Islam is the very religion of peace Muslims belong to they should be left exactly where they are to enjoy it with all its glory. Only exmuslims and Christian’s should be given refuge in Western states. You have got to just love all the willful ignorance about Islam in the west. When are these morons ever going to learn?
spot on says
“When are these morons ever going to learn?”
John, I have been wondering the same thing for 5 years now. At least I now see polls that show near 50% don’t like Muslims. 5 years ago, it was taboo to discuss or dislike Muslims. The other 50%, I don’t know what it will take. Probably nothing will help them except our government declaring Muslims the enemy. Even then, the 25% that hate our country will be in favor of the enemy. Sadly, that 25% are also Obama’s base voters.
Sabri S. says
Allah u akbar!….the sooner we get america to a muslim majority
Country, the better off the world will be for everyone…we are almost
At 10%….conversion is the key and living real islam, not what is portrayed
In western media…the more Americans that learn the truth, the more
Will convert…
somehistory says
In your suicide pipe bomb dreams.
The beast of satan is going down. *Real* islam is disgusting, murderous, slime from the devil and holds out death for all. The beast of satan, islam, is heading straight for the burning pit and then it will never be seen or heard from again.
spot on says
What is interesting about Sabri S is that the law will not allow him to say directly what his Satanic Islamic Koran based mind really thinks should be done with Christians, Jews, and non Muslims that refuse to convert.
RonaldB says
“the more Americans that learn the truth, the more Will convert…”
Very good, Sabri. Does that mean that you support a free debate between Muslims and non-Muslims, where each side will present his best arguments and the listeners will decide the truth based on the logic and facts presented?
So, do you support free debate between religions and free expression of all viewpoints in pursuit of the truth? A simple “yes” or “no” will be fully sufficient. Of course, i would be happy if you elaborated on your reply.
Angemon says
Sabri S. posted:
“the sooner we get america to a muslim majority
Country, the better off the world will be for everyone…”
Except for the non-muslims.
“we are almost
At 10%”
LOL!!!! You’re less than 1%. If you were 10% there would be a war going on.
“conversion is the key”
Nope, the death penalty for apostasy is the key. If not for it, islam would have been relegated to the rubbish bin of history right after the supposed death of muhammad.
“and living real islam, not what is portrayed
In western media”
In the Western media, islam is portrayed as the “religion of peace”. Here’s a great look into how wrongly Western media portray islam:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYYPz3DDPFU
“the more Americans that learn the truth, the more
Will convert…”
Let’s see: Sabri has, on multiple occasions, supported the islamic state and asserted that muslims are to blow up Americans. Now he’s here telling us that if Americans learn the truth about islam – the same islam crystallized in the islamic state and who mandates the killing of Americans – then Americans would convert to the religion that mandates their death.
Not the sharpest scimitar in the mosque, eh, Sabri?
spot on says
Sabri S, Why not be honest with all and say what you think should happen to all the Christians, Jews, and non-Muslims that refuse to convert to Islam.
gravenimage says
The vicious Sabri S. wrote:
Allah u akbar!….the sooner we get america to a muslim majority
Country, the better off the world will be for everyone…
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Only for those who believe in slavery, genocide, and the sacralized rape of small children—in other words, pious Mohammedans…
More:
we are almost
At 10%….
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Good God, what crap. As Angemon notes, Muslims make up less than 1% of the population in the United States. But then, logic has never been a Muslim strong point…
More:
conversion is the key and living real islam, not what is portrayed
In western media…the more Americans that learn the truth, the more
Will convert…
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Notice that Sabri S. does not say exactly what the Western media has wrong here. Given the Islamic horrors he has openly condoned here, it is not surprising that he has not decided to elaborate…
albert says
Any refugees accepted from Iraq and Syria should be the ones who are persecuted , the Christians are the most persecuted in the region and their values would easily be assimilated. But the danger is that CAIR will have a hand in this and those deemed in greatest need will of course be muslims.
JohnnyAngel Advocacy Group says
Feinstein should be thoroughly investigated and if possible removed,tried and convicted. She is an outright traitor to this nation and should be scaffolded !!
sal says
“Democrats call for ‘flood’ of Muslims to U.S.,” WHY???????
Ice Star says
Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and the rest of the wealthy Islamic nations need to be the ones who accept those fellow Muslims , not the free west.
Peggy says
Muslims don’t want to go there. Those countries are already Islamic. The goal is to spread Islam throughout the entire world.
cindy says
Thisis the very last thing that we need here in America!!!!!!!!!!!!! We really need to deport the ones that are here and get rid of them all. That would make us safer. No doubt about it. So let’s start working on that. Praise God