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Duke Prof Bruce Lawrence: Pamela Geller a “free speech jihadi”

May 12, 2015 5:20 pm By Robert Spencer

re1537909_bruce_lawrence_highresLet’s be clear on who we’re dealing with here. Bruce Lawrence is emeritus professor of Islamic studies at Duke University. In 2013 he was reported as saying that Islam “has no connection with terrorism and the propaganda of the forces which are trying to link Islam with terrorism is baseless.” In 2005, he said that Osama bin Laden sounded “like somebody who would be a very high-minded and welcome voice in global politics.”

So it is no surprise that Lawrence would be blaming Pamela Geller for having the gall to be attacked by violent jihadists in Garland, Texas.

“The jihad of Pamela Geller (COMMENTARY),” by Bruce B. Lawrence, Religion News Service, May 6, 2015:

(RNS) Can poetry be an antidote to poison? Can it provide an alternative to the jihad of Pamela Geller?

Let’s pause and think for a moment about how ghastly Bruce Lawrence’s moral equivocation is here. Three days after Islamic jihadists tried to commit mass murder at our free speech event in Texas, Bruce Lawrence is writing not about the jihad of Ibrahim Simpson and Nadir Soofi, and discussing how such people can be stopped before they take up their AK-47s, but about how “the jihad of Pamela Geller” can be stopped. And what does the respected professor recommend for that? Reading some poetry by Muslim mystics:

A life without His love is nothing but slow death.
The sum total of love is but three words:
I-burn, I-burn, I-burn.

These verses come from the 13th-century whirling dervish, Rumi. The fire that burns also gives life in the logic of love-induced immolation that Muslims call Sufism. Its opposite is the fire that comes from the end of a gun barrel or a detonated bomb that takes a life; such is the logic of hate-induced terror that some Muslims call jihad.

In the first place, the existence of Muslims who are peaceful does not negate the existence of Muslims who are not; nor does it negate the responsibility of free people to resist jihad terror and Islamic supremacism.

But also, Lawrence is opposing Sufism to violent jihad in the wake of a jihad attack by a Muslim named Soofi. Even the Muslim writer Stephen Schwartz, in a vicious attack on Pamela Geller after the jihad attack on her, admitted: “Soofi’s very family name is dismaying, as it suggests a background in the spiritual tradition of the Sufis.” Also, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, the recently killed former Iraqi army general, was the leader of a Naqshbandi Sufi group that was allied with the Islamic State — clearly al-Douri and his comrades did not believe that Sufism and violent jihad were incompatible. Sufis led the Chechen jihad for centuries, and Muslim Brotherhood founder Hasan al-Banna prescribed Sufi spiritual exercises for the early Brothers — even at a time when the Brotherhood in Egypt did not eschew violence. So Lawrence’s assumption that Sufism is somehow antithetical to violent jihad simply has no basis.

For true Sufis, the first fire is the only fire, since it requires the greater struggle, also known as jihad (jihad al-akbar): to conquer one’s self.

For Geller, as for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, it is only the second fire that matters. Jihad takes but one form: warfare in the name of Allah. The God of Islam produces hate, not love. His fire brings horror rather than hope: Its flames neither thrill nor elevate; they only kill and decimate.

It is only the second fire that matters to any Infidel. There may be hundreds of millions busy peacefully waging the “greater struggle”; what does that do to stop those Muslims who show up at art exhibits with AK-47s?

In 2015 we witness a growing imbalance of imagery, perception and practices of Allah sweeping across the Atlantic, from Western Europe to North America. Charlie Hebdo inaugurated the New Year with death and carnage in Paris, then Copenhagen. There was no immediate copycat in the U.S. till the shootings in Garland, Texas, last week.

First it was “the jihad of Pamela Geller,” and now “Charlie Hebdo inaugurated the New Year with death and carnage in Paris, then Copenhagen.” Is Bruce Lawrence really this morally inverted? Charlie Hebdo did not bring death and carnage to Paris or Copenhagen. Islamic jihadists did. They are wholly and solely responsible for the death and carnage.

Not that negative sound bites about Islam have been absent. Hirsi Ali’s latest screed, “Heretic,” received more than the expected favorable features and reviews from Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and NPR’s Diane Rehm Show. An alluring presence, Hirsi Ali is shy on facts but near perfect in affect: Time and again she says nothing with a convincing smile; her acolytes applaud.

Geller, by contrast, imitates the French extremist Jean-Marie Le Pen. No smiles, just grimaces; the more outrageous the claim, the more tenacious its defense. In 2009 she opposed a mosque project for Ground Zero.

What exactly was outrageous about opposing what would have been understood by many Muslims around the world as a triumphal mosque built at the site of a jihad victory, a la the Dome of the Rock and al-Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount, or converted cathedrals like the Hagia Sophia in Istanbul, the Umayyad Mosque in Damascus, etc.? Lawrence doesn’t say. He just takes it for granted that his RNS readers will shake their heads in multiculturalist dudgeon.

When Muslims “pray five times a day,” she bellowed, “they’re cursing Christians and Jews five times a day.”

Geller was referring in this “bellow” (did Ibrahim Simpson and Nadir Soofi “bellow,” Professor Lawrence, or were they more soft-spoken?) to the fact that the Fatiha, the first sura of the Qur’an and most common prayer in Islam, ends with the request that Allah “guide us to the straight path, not the path of those who have earned your anger, or the path who have gone astray.” As Lawrence doubtless knows, many mainstream Muslim exegetes of the Qur’an explain that the “straight path” is Islam (cf. the title of one of Islamic apologist John Esposito’s books, Islam: The Straight Path), while “those who have earned your anger” are the Jews and “those who have gone astray” are the Christians.

Can Lawrence demonstrate that to be false?

One of the 2012 Washington subway posters she sponsored read: “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.”

Does Lawrence then support the jihad savagery of those “Palestinians” who murder innocent civilians, such as the Fogel family, and then celebrate the murders?

What is missing in these made for media histrionics is the Allah of history, etched in the Quran and replete in the lives of everyday Muslims, from Arabia to America, across Africa, Asia and also Europe. The Allah of piety and poetry, of table talk and critical life decisions, is also the Allah defined, above all, by mercy. The opening words of the Quran announce: In the Name of God, the All Merciful, Always Merciful.

While echoes of that Allah resound through the corridors of time and in the daily acts of millions of Muslims, they have been drowned out in 2015 by provocateurs — first Charlie Hebdo terrorists, and then the respondents to Geller’s parlor game in Garland. Hers is a charade of free speech, a mockery of democratic values. If ISIS hates the West, Geller provides its mirror image: hatred of Islam.

So does that mean we have to love Islam so as not to provoke the “respondents to Geller’s parlor game”? If we just don’t offend them, then all will be well? If we don’t dare draw Muhammad, but submit instead to Sharia blasphemy restrictions, they won’t hurt us? If we signal to them that violent intimidation works, we won’t be rewarded with more violent intimidation?

Recently a New York court allowed her to continue to garnish buses and subways with a poster that read: “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah. That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?”

If it weren’t so incendiary, it would be ludicrous, but its consequences are far from funny. It’s important to distinguish true Islam from Geller’s barbs, but also her assault from Hirsi Ali’s.

Lawrence represents this statement as an outrageous claim on Geller’s part. He doesn’t mention the fact that it comes from a Hamas video that ran on its official TV station, containing the words, “Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah.” Our ad was (quite correctly) pointing out that the jihad of mystical communion and romping through the daisies that Hamas-linked CAIR was representing as the principal meaning of jihad was the not, unfortunately, the only understanding of jihad among Muslims.

One can disagree with Hirsi Ali in a civil forum. While she panders to a level of fear about Islam and Muslims, at home and abroad, she also tries to reconstruct the “good” Muslim as part of humanity.

There is no humanity in those whom Geller decries. They are subhuman beasts, worthy of any assault, whether a punitive police or all-out military action. Jihad for Geller can never encompass the self-denying, ever-burning Sufi adept. Jihad is only and always the blinkered savages who hate us; they use jihad as both instrument and pretext for endless war. Hers is a responsive jihad, to equal their hate with her hate, matching their physical violence with her verbal violence.

Where does Geller ever say that jihadis are “subhuman beasts, worthy of any assault, whether a punitive police or all-out military action”? Why, nowhere, of course. She wants them defeated, as any sane person would, but she has never denied their humanity — which is more than can be said about the fusillade of media attacks on her and her motives. But in any case, here again, Lawrence’s entire piece falters on the fact that the existence of peaceful Muslims and peaceful understandings of jihad does nothing to negate the existence of violent Muslims and violent understandings of jihad.

There is more than a minor difference between free speech badly performed and public space consciously subverted. Hirsi Ali upholds free speech yet undermines its practice, never granting her opponents a grain of truth. Geller, however, has made as her modus operandi the repeated abuse of public space for dissemination of her vitriolic message.

The true lovers of Islam, like Rumi, twist and turn, twirl and burn for Allah. The free-speech jihadis, led by Geller, fume and bluster, excoriate and desecrate. Absent love, they lust for fame, to see their names in headlines yet again, a trophy of ill gain, their only glory but a fleeting fantasy.

How ironic that Lawrence would call Pamela Geller a “free speech jihadi.” He means, of course, that she is a terrorist, but he has just spent his whole article telling us that there exists a jihad that is good and wholesome and beneficial for the soul; so if Pamela Geller is a “free speech jihadi,” might she not be on the side of the angels, trying to defend this all-important freedom against encroachment from bullies, supremacists, killers, and cosseted, blinkered academics?

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  1. Brian says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:26 pm

    Prof Bruce Lawrence is another Islamofascist. Here is the pre-eminent academic on constitutional law and Free Speech in the United States, prof. Eugene Volokh who supports the cartoon contest as a defiance to uphold Free Speech…Interviewed by Megyn Kelly…

    https://www.facebook.com/JoyceWillis2020/videos/10206744036418428/?l=9133325204667307115

    • sheik yer'mami says

      May 12, 2015 at 6:09 pm

      Islam, the religion of the professors. If he is not a convert, he is obviously heavily “in the bag” for Islam. Just take a closer look and see where his perks come from, who pays for the 5-star hotels in Dubai, Dohar and elsewhere, where his Islamic handlers pick up the tab and provide him with little girls, (or boys) depending on his preferences. These types are cannot easily hide the treason they commit. But it is high time that they be called out on it.

      • Jon Sobieski says

        May 12, 2015 at 9:41 pm

        That whole article was so queer. Bruce is not healthy at all.

    • mortimer says

      May 12, 2015 at 7:14 pm

      DEFIANCE to uphold free speech!

      Defy Sharia censorship of Western freedom!

  2. somehistory says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    The university can begin preparing.. they should have began doing so when he made his ridiculous statement about obl…to say how sorry they are to hear the professor has dementia, and they are in the process of replacing him.
    His willful stupidity regarding the evil beast will not save him.

  3. Pork Rind Addict says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    This guy is a NIINO (not islamist in name only).

  4. Wellington says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Professor Bruce Lawrence is just another DWD (Dodo With a Doctorate) whose built-in crap detector he was born with has gotten terribly rusty and who is, as a consequence of this, a moral midget. People like Lawrence all over the place in academia nowadays and they’re educating (actually indoctrinating) the youth of America, whose parents actually shell out a lot of money to send their child to a prestigious university like Duke. Well, the prestige has largely worn off for all those who still, a la Sherlock Holmes, not just see but observe. Oh yes, a college education, at least in the liberal arts, has become a terrible thing to witness.

    • Champ says

      May 12, 2015 at 8:25 pm

      Great comment, Wellington, I wholly agree. And I love your wit and humor here, “DWD (Dodo With a Doctorate)”, so funny and true! 😀

      • Wellington says

        May 12, 2015 at 8:57 pm

        Hope you’re doing well, Champ. There’s much (almost all of “much”) I can’t take credit for, but I can honestly take credit for the DWD acronym I came up with a few years ago to describe so many of the overeducated rubes in our time polluting the educational system in America from kindergarten through graduate school and who have a PhD or an equivalent.

        They’re awful. They’re everywhere. And they are destroyers of real knowledge and true critical thinking. Oh yes, they are DWDs. Take care, my friend.

  5. Tim says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Ridiculous. Besides, some historians suspect RUMI was actually the son of Byzantine Christians, who became enslaved and forced to become a cleric. Muslims used to force-convert Christians and make them work for them within the skills of their existing family business. Muslim rulers would make sure that Christians with higher skills that could be exploited for their own use, pay jiza and be kept alive to work for Muslim rulers and create all the art, architecture, poetry that Muslims never knew how to create.

    They don’t use the name Rumi for him in the Muslim world. In fact they don’t actually recognize him by that name at all. Strange that the professor uses the Christian reference to Rumi’s name. It’s a name used in the West and means “the Roman”. Rumi’s family fled the expansion of Islam into Afghanistan and made their way to the Christian Turkey. Now, why would a “Muslim” flee the expansion of Islam?
    Rumi’s father was a scholar so it would not be unusual that Rumi would have been forced as a young boy to learn and teach Islam. Rumi denounced Islam many times. And the fact that Rumi knew so much about Christianity is rather telling.

  6. Angemon says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    If ISIS hates the West, Geller provides its mirror image: hatred of Islam.

    What’s implied here is that ISIS is islam. Foot, meet bullet.

  7. Beagle says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    Pamela Geller (PBUH) was heard to exclaim “Paradise is under the shade of pens.”

    We are watching an institution of human knowledge come apart. It is never pretty. Modern professional Islamic apologists who number in the tens of thousands, adhering to their modern version of Islam akin to geocentric cosmology, are proven to be fools on a daily basis. Everything which justified their status is dissolving like an insubstantial pageant fading before their very eyes.

    All that is left for them is to flail furiously and pointlessly.

  8. KrazyKafir says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:26 pm

    Truly a star in the quisling dhimmi world.

    • Wellington says

      May 12, 2015 at 7:30 pm

      Your comment, KrazyKafir, is admirably succinct as well as dispositive of the verity that the aiding of evil only prolongs evil and so is actually worse than evil itself, as Ayn Rand effectively argued many times, to wit, that evil is not the primary problem for mankind but rather it is the hesitation to eradicate it or at least marginalize it which is——and with such dire consequences for this “particular” kind of hesitation.

      With Marxism certainly true. With Nazism certainly true. With Islam, I submit to all, certainly true as well.

  9. mortimer says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:54 pm

    Bruce Lawrence makes free speech sound harmful.
    Bruce Lawrence makes jihad sound harmful.
    If jihad is harmful, then Pamela Geller is right.
    Bruce Lawrence makes poetry sound like the answer.
    Mohammed condemned poetry and forbade it.
    Muslims deny the freedom of Muslims to read poetry.
    Muslims must condemn what Bruce Lawrence recommends.
    Sufi Muslims believe that the inner jihad was preparation for the outer military jihad where they would kill and be killed. Sufi Muslims were the fiercest fighters in Islam and chosen as shock troops.
    Bruce Lawrence pretends he does not understand that Sufism produces the fiercest jihadists.
    Bruce Lawrence is saying many things that a scholar of Islam would know to be misleading.
    Bruce Lawrence has obviously been sent on a mission by his owners to muddy the waters.
    Bruce Lawrence has put himself on the side of the jihadists by wiping out traces of their footprints leading back to the foundational texts, texts of Sufism and texts of orthodox, consensual Islam.
    Bruce Lawrence is intentionally misrepresenting Islam to Western peoples as benign.
    Bruce Lawrence should be investigated by the FBI and CIA for links to foreign nationals hoping to overthrow the United States.

    • donovan nuera says

      May 12, 2015 at 8:33 pm

      I hope this stupid professor/ apologist stays “emeritus” and doesn’t indoctrinate the students at Duke any longer but only annoys other professors in the faculty lounge by eating the last 6 Crispy Crème donuts on the sideboard and leaves half-empty milk cartoons in the fridge to pour into his coffee while accidently leaving with the communal TV remote in his pocket so they cannot change the TV channel back from CNN to MSNBC or the Oxygen Channel and have to ask a tall professor to reach the TV suspended from the ceiling and reach back to press the right button (and sheepishly mill around so as to not ask the tall Afro-Am professor to do it so as to not appear racist..)

      • The Doctor says

        May 13, 2015 at 9:11 am

        “Emeritus” is often used for a retired professor, it means that he’s not on the university payroll any more. He could still be teaching and simply be on the Qatari government’s payroll.

  10. mortimer says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:57 pm

    Bruce Lawrence makes free speech sound harmful.
    If free speech is harmful to Bruce Lawrence, he is loyal to something besides the US constitution.
    If Bruce Lawrence is harmful to something besides the US constitution is a traitor to the US.

    • mortimer says

      May 12, 2015 at 7:05 pm

      If Bruce Lawrence is loyal to something besides the US constitution is a traitor to the US.

      Perhaps that ‘something’ is Sharia law which is opposed to any speech that criticizes Islam.

      Bruce Lawrence’s version of Islam is not the version of the consensus of Islamic scholars allied with Al Azhar University.

      Bruce Lawrence is teaching his own idiosyncratic version of Islam which would be considered heretical by all authorities of Islam.

      The most logical assumptions are that Bruce Lawrence is loyal to Sharia law or he is a complete dhimmi who betrays the US and Americans for some hidden incentive.

      • boakai ngombu says

        May 12, 2015 at 10:57 pm

        you used an archaic word, there, mort … traitor . glad to see it employed. subversive activity to say the least; traitor is a helpful label.

        the Allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) would prefer that “traitor” be applied to folks who hold fear about jihad and all that is can bring.. it is likely very gay and delighted that its slaves have turned the word to improper use.

        thanks for bringing it up. will use it more.

  11. mortimer says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:23 pm

    Spencer wrote: Does Lawrence then support the jihad savagery of those “Palestinians” who murder innocent civilians, such as the Fogel family, and then celebrate the murders?”

    Does Bruce Lawrence approve the Palestinian Authority that recently raised the compensation to families of jihadists who murdered Israeli civilians in suicide attacks?

  12. Jaladhi says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    This professor is an idiot and a stealth Muslim. Nobody esle will come out with such nonsense!

    • Jaladhi says

      May 12, 2015 at 7:47 pm

      We are truly doomed – I am horrified to know these types of professors are brain washing the young minds!! They will have no problem accepting Islam when the time comes!!

  13. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:47 pm

    Islam “has no connection with terrorism and the propaganda of the forces which are trying to link Islam with terrorism is baseless.”

    REALLY ?

    We see it ALL over the News, the Television, the Internet, as Islam’s Blood Thirsty Muslim “Jihadists” OPENLY Post Pictures of their Bloody Butchery, while shouting “Allahu Akbar”, “Death to the “Infidel”, “Death to America”, and Displaying the “Black Flag of Islam” – are we NOT supposed to Believe our “Lying Eyes” and “Lying Ears”, and ignore the Volumes of DOCUMENTED Evidence.

    Now Pamela Geller is a “free speech jihadi”, for only exposing the TRUTH about Islam and Muslims, and Islam’s “Creeping Sharia”, using Islam’s “Taqiyya and Kitman” Lying and Deception “Stealth Jihad” against the World.

    Islam and Muslims always like to Whine and Complain that THEY are the “Victims”, and attempt to turn the tables by using the “SAME” Terms against the “Infidel”.

    • Michael Copeland says

      May 13, 2015 at 6:06 am

      “The Quran directly commands us to commit terrorism, so why are we afraid of it?”
      Ragab Hilal Hamida, Egyptian MP, in the Egyptian Parliament, January 2006.
      http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5789-ideology-of-killing

  14. Papa Whiskey says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    Some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe them.

    — George Orwell

    • Renee says

      May 12, 2015 at 8:27 pm

      well-said!

      and three bows to you Pamela

  15. artie galvin says

    May 12, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    “the existence of Muslims who are peaceful does not negate the existence of Muslims who are not” Great sentence. Putting this on my Facebook page.

    • Angemon says

      May 13, 2015 at 7:04 pm

      And the question that that sentence invites is this: which of them are obeying islamic orthodoxy? The muslims who, as Ben Aflleck put it, “just want to have a sandwich”, or the muslims who are raping, enslaving and killing religious minorities, like the Yazidi?

      The answer, of course, should be: “well, which of them quotes from islamic sources and which of them resort to calling people asking such a question ‘racist, islamophobic bigots’?”

  16. Westman says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    Publish or perish is an academic mantra that, outside of measurable science and its relatives, often results in giving the public what it wants. Professor Lawrence’s treatise is simply an announcement that he is mainstream in the liberal establishment and making himself available for quoting; thereby staying relevant and visible.

    When the next 9/11 happens he, and others like him, will be discredited and considered the Neville Chamberlains of cowardice. For now, he rests comfortably in the Ivory Tower bastion of appeasers, spreading weakness and unpreparedness to tommorow’s society.

  17. sidney penny says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:07 pm

    AD HOMINEM-remember this word when you talk about Pamela Geller

    “And it’s no surprise that when the public debate is preoccupied with disparaging Pam Geller, or calling the residents of Texas towns harsh names, the debate itself becomes stupid.

    Nothing useful gets said, and no one makes a point worth making.

    ………

    If you’ve been frustrated and annoyed by both of these current debates, I submit that their failure to get past the ad hominem level is a big reason why.”

    Read more at

    http://libertyunyielding.com/2015/05/08/dumbing-debate-down-on-the-mohammed-cartoon-contest-and-jade-helm-15/

    • Westman says

      May 13, 2015 at 12:08 am

      It’s starting to look like Duke Nepotism. Here is an article by the Islamic Studies Director of Duke University, Omid Safi :

      http://m.christianpost.com/news/charlie-hebdo-cartoons-are-racist-bullying-islam-unequivocally-condemns-terrorism-says-duke-universitys-islamic-studies-director–132776/

      Thr fix was in. This looks like a ghost article from Omid Safi using Lawrence as the mouthpiece, or, Duke University has a program to promote Islam.

  18. sidney penny says

    May 12, 2015 at 9:19 pm

    hey folks

    Be careful of this Rumi Guy- a Sufi mystic.

    Sufism is not what you think it is.

    Rumi-so loved by Deepak Chopra that it turned him from a mind body expert to a terrorism expert.

    He read too much Rumi and look what happened to him.

    He now gives sermons on terrorism!

    Now no one want to know him .

  19. Bezelel says

    May 12, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    bruce referred to Pamela’s message as vitriolic? Can someone tell me how can you accurately describe the current events without it containing the worst of humanity. Sadly bruce is considered intellectual. Even sadder is knowing people take him seriously.

  20. Plutarchus7 says

    May 12, 2015 at 11:18 pm

    IF ALL MOSLEMS WERE SUFIS,

    and all Sufis were like the Persian poet Rumi (a radically interior self-realized mystic without a violent bone in his body) Islam would be a true religion of peace as far removed from the violent jihad of Mohammed (who was no Sufi) as the Morning Star from this Earth. But most Moslems are not Sufis. And most Sufis are not Rumis.

    Click http://www.apollospeaks.com/?p=5413 for my article “Islam, Sufism and the Ground Zero Mosque.”

    • eib says

      May 13, 2015 at 6:46 am

      Do not forget that the Janissaries were Sufi, as are the Tsarnaevs and the attackers of Beslan. You say Sufi to me, and I shall always think Beslan. ISLAM IS PROFANE.

  21. qedlin says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:53 am

    Lawrence’s real ambition is to be Obama’s White House press spokesman.

  22. Paleologos says

    May 13, 2015 at 1:06 am

    “Bruce Lawrence is emeritus professor of Islamic studies at Duke University.”

    Emeritus professor, huh? Maybe Duke needs to go back to just cranking out basketball players.

    You wonder how people get paid to espouse this level of stupidity.

    Maybe the good professor should watch this a few times, and see if he can get his mind right …

    R/

    Paleologos

  23. I Iat says

    May 13, 2015 at 1:13 am

    I did read the article because when you are going to make a comment you should have the decency to do so. The article starts with a photo of Pamela Geller wich can compete with the best nazi propaganda “art”. Light is used to distort the image. The photo of the author on the other hand is one that uses light to make a favourable impression.

    At first i felt angry about that but then i took comfort from the fact that the islamic propaganda machine has to use this type of tactics, apparently for lack of real arguments.

    So i read it and it was what i expected. No arguments at all. Just hollow phrases and the prof blowing his own trumpet. Allah expresses love allright: for those muslims who slaughter the infidels in his name.

    Did the prof take a look at the koran? I doubt it. Probably too difficult for a liberal. He can take a closer look at it at my website here http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/
    But as he probably allready pocketed his money i don’t expect he will.

    Greetings from the netherlands,

    iiat

  24. ECAW says

    May 13, 2015 at 2:46 am

    I was under the impression that the love with which Sufis burned was of a quite different kind:

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/JH12Ak03.html

  25. Proud Pork Fan says

    May 13, 2015 at 3:10 am

    What an avalanche of crap articles we are having to wade through. This is what our petro-dollars buy us. A seemingly unlimited flood of islamist propaganda.

    WTF? I thought this was America.

  26. No Fear says

    May 13, 2015 at 3:55 am

    So …. Islam has nothing to do with terrorism…..because the Sufis are peaceful mystics?

    I don’t mind if someone tries to “eliminate all evil in the world” through meditating and gnosis and tries to become “pure”. That’s simply another type of self improvement.

    But when someone tries to “eliminate all evil in the world” by picking me as a target then their paradigm is dangerous and evil like the Nazis.

    Mysticism is not a protection from violence.

  27. No Fear says

    May 13, 2015 at 4:18 am

    “There is no humanity in those whom Geller decries. They are subhuman beasts, worthy of any assault, whether a punitive police or all-out military action.”

    Lwarence seems to have confused the Quran with Geller:

    “There is no humanity in those whom Quran decries. They are subhuman beasts, worthy of any assault, whether a punitive police or all-out military action.”

    The first thing I learnt when I read the Quran was that I was scum, worthy of being burnt in a fire which was constructed by the imaginary friend of the leader of the muslims, Mohammed. The Quran is a tirade of abuse against non-muslims. It’s author even has the audacity to want to harass non-muslims in the “hereafter” which I assume means “death”. Mohammed is not happy with killing Jews and non muslims, he even wants to burn them after they die !

    Islam is beyond filth.

    • Betty says

      May 13, 2015 at 8:51 am

      I sure am glad he is not teaching any children or grand children of mine.

  28. Dave says

    May 13, 2015 at 4:20 am

    This so-called professor is an incredible moron!!….obviously, he does not believe in free speech or the 1st Amendment!!

    • spot on says

      May 13, 2015 at 7:58 am

      Professor Bruce Lawerence is a nut job.

    • Raja says

      May 13, 2015 at 8:11 am

      Dave,

      This moron believes that the muslims willl give him and rest of the world peace on a platter if he just becomes passive for Sharia blah blah, as the muslims have given PEACE to non muslims in Pakistan, Arabia, Iran, Egypt etc. Unfortunately in Turkey there aren’t any left (after genocide) to give peace.!!!!

    • Betty says

      May 13, 2015 at 8:53 am

      spot on maybe is is a muslim him self. wahtta think?

      • Betty says

        May 13, 2015 at 9:14 am

        maybe he is. SORRY

      • The Other Jim says

        May 13, 2015 at 6:37 pm

        He might be a Muslim convert, but based upon his educational background(Episcopal Divinity School, Virginia Theological Seminary), he’s more likely a Episcopalian.

        That in itself is telling because the Episcopal Church(Church of England & Canada) have gone full Moonbat Leftist. The Episcopalians who remain in the church are largely Leftists and worship Leftism in one form or another. Including their false Gods of eQualism & MultiCulturalism. The one’s who left are the proper tradition Christians leaving only the apostates in charge.

        This is why I suspect we’re seeing these bizarre Interfaith meetings and Muslim prayers held in Episcopal(Anglican) Churches. The Episcopalians are so Leftist and filled with hatred against Judeo-Christian Western Civilization that it blinds them to what Islam is-Satanic.

        As a former Episcopalian, that how I see it.

        • qedlin says

          May 14, 2015 at 3:25 am

          Episcopalian is a good guess, They, and some Methodists, Presbys and Lutherans have succumbed to a strong spiritual deception.

          Useful idiots like lawrence have 3 life choices: convert to muslim, submit to islam and become a Dhimmi, or fight islam. The latter choices include 270 million dead by war, subjugation and slavery. Once the rest of the world is subjugated, the “peace” of islam will be fulfilled.

  29. EUCLID says

    May 13, 2015 at 5:28 am

    The word ‘professor’ has been hijacked by the warped minded Marxist
    thinking morons. They obviously award this title to each other. In the past, when
    I used to hear the word professor, it immediately conjured up a highly
    intelligent person, mostly a scientist like Einstein etc. But now it could also
    mean a complete idiot.

    • Julius O'Malley says

      May 13, 2015 at 9:19 am

      In the humanities departments of the Western academy, one can be 90% certain that any randomly selected professor is an intellectual nincompoop. Jettison all notions of wise, deeply educated people dedicated to the exploration of ideas and seeking of truth, and the teaching of such things.

  30. Johnny mookergee says

    May 13, 2015 at 5:33 am

    Anyone who has been on Dukes campus recently can see the large amount of women with Niqabs and men with the Islamic beards .5 years ago you wouldn’t see one of them .Then Google the Qatari government and Duke and you’ll quickly find the reason ,The Qatari government gave the school 50 million dollars last year for its Islamic studies and the building for its new Islamic studies building .Big surprise to find that ayatollah Lawrence has spent the last 9 summers lecturing at the largest Islamic university in Qatar ,how pathetic

    • particolor says

      May 13, 2015 at 10:16 am

      We call our Village Idiot ” Professor ” out of respect !!

    • Mirren10 says

      May 13, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      ”Then Google the Qatari government and Duke and you’ll quickly find the reason ,The Qatari government gave the school 50 million dollars last year for its Islamic studies and the building for its new Islamic studies building .Big surprise to find that ayatollah Lawrence has spent the last 9 summers lecturing at the largest Islamic university in Qatar ,how pathetic”

      You’ve hit the nail on the head, there.

      But I wouldn’t describe this venal tool as ‘pathetic’. Treacherous, a liar, and a disgrace to his so-called ‘professorship’ is more like it. Blech.

  31. Lia Wissing says

    May 13, 2015 at 5:39 am

    I wonder of the prof. knows the following poem by Abu Nuwas:

    O the joy of sodomy!
    So now be sodomites, you Arabs.
    Turn not away from it–
    therein is wondrous pleasure.
    Take some coy lad with kiss-curls
    twisting on his temple
    and ride as he stands like some gazelle
    standing to her mate.
    A lad whom all can see girt with sword
    and belt not like your whore who has
    to go veiled.
    Make for smooth-faced boys and do your
    very best to mount them, for women are
    the mounts of the devils

    • Betty says

      May 13, 2015 at 9:21 am

      lia maybe you should send it to him.

    • TediNeo98 says

      May 13, 2015 at 4:16 pm

      Very good Lia – I second Betty, this twat should have a copy.

    • Lord Wrath says

      May 14, 2015 at 2:09 am

      An old Arab saying:

      “For children a woman.
      For pleasure a boy.
      For extasy a Mellon.”

  32. Baucent says

    May 13, 2015 at 5:45 am

    Professor Laurence is hardly an objective commentator. Anyone who studies Islam to doctorate level is probably a wide eyed believer. But to dismiss Jihadists as “not Islamic” is like saying the Khmer Rouge were not Marxists. In the court of public opinion no one will believe it, and that is all that matters.

  33. duh_swami says

    May 13, 2015 at 6:24 am

    To make another long story short…A fine education and lots of degree’s does not guarantee a decent human being…

  34. Mark says

    May 13, 2015 at 10:31 am

    https://youtu.be/o_qYcJ-GSZc

    • smithpd says

      May 13, 2015 at 10:03 pm

      That video is about the most ridiculous conspiracy theory I have seen. Also, it has nothing whatever to do with the subject of this article.

  35. pongidae rex says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:16 pm

    The problem is not Islam. Islam has been around for 1600 years and has not changed. The problem is the social, intellectual and political collapse of our Civilization that has allowed the Civil and Human Rights movements to metastasize into a movement to destory Western Civilization as ‘evil’. Evan that may be a laudable thing, except that the Islamic perspective they so dearly embrace makes the racism of the deep South during the Jim Crow years look like a paradise of civility.

    • Mirren10 says

      May 13, 2015 at 12:51 pm

      ”The problem is the social, intellectual and political collapse of our Civilization that has allowed the Civil and Human Rights movements to metastasize into a movement to destory Western Civilization as ‘evil’. Evan that may be a laudable thing … ”

      How the *hell* can you describe a ”movement to destory (sic) Western Civilisation” as **ever** a ‘laudable thing’ ? Explain.

      • gravenimage says

        May 14, 2015 at 8:49 pm

        Dear Mirren, if I’m reading this right I believe pongidae rex meant that civil and human rights could be a laudable thing, but were twisted and misused to enable Islam.

    • qedlin says

      May 14, 2015 at 1:29 am

      Sorry, Rex, the problem IS islam. Islam originated from pagan demonic worship primarily derived from the Arabian Star Family Worship cult of Arabia ( the Hindus contend there are numerous similarities with Hinduism, concluding it actually derives from Hindu’s spread to the region BC.) To date over 270 million have been killed spreading the “religion of peace.” Their definition of peace is antithetical to truth: when all the world submits to islam (by any means) there will be peace.There are 3 states of the human condition in islam: you are a moslem, you are fully submitted to the islamic state (a Dhimmi) or you are an infidel at war with islam.The demon god allah ( ancient Thamud god of the moon Hilal) allows every form of wickedness to secure the caliphate of the prophet. We are all chattle to be dealt with at the will of the good muslims, the jihadists. The bad muslims are either stealth jihadists or do not truly know what they believe or have been sold into.

  36. Hummer says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Every school that promotes this kind of garbage needs no more of our tax dollars ASAP.
    I guarantee that will help them have another think.

  37. Mark says

    May 13, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    This article highlights one of the problems associated with leftist control of the nation’s universities.

    This control isn’t the consequence of a few misguided hires or even a few years. Decades of work have gone into this community of common interest.

    Essentially, the left-wing depends on the public assigning credibility to people with titles like “Doctor” or “Professor” to promulgate ideas that would otherwise be derided as unsupported twaddle.

    Take away Bruce Lawrence’s credentials, and nobody would waste time discussing the man’s opinions. This is a critical point to consider, because if we are going to change the dominant elite culture of this country, we are going to have to control credentials, just as the Left has.

    Because the Left has no commitment to “Academic Freedom” in any real sense. “Academic Freedom” is simply newspeak for “Our Thing”. And traditionalists, Christians, conservatives, of any stripe, are not welcome in that place. In fact, they have twisted accreditation to become a weapon of ideological conformity by basing accreditation, not on actual teaching standards in the relevant field, but on unrelated social engineering schemes, such as “gay-friendly” policies.

    Professor Lawrence is simply a symptom of the broader disease.

    • Mirren10 says

      May 13, 2015 at 2:26 pm

      I think what you say is certainly *part* of it, but probably the least important part.

      Johnny mookergee, in older comments, points out that Duke is heavily funded by Qatar, and that Lawrence lectures there, nine times a year.

      Hence, it comes down to sheer venal greed, plus a lack of any principles at all. I’m sure, if one were to examine the background of the majority of these morally compromised people, one would find a similar pattern. Never underestimate greed as a factor ! I sincerely doubt, if Lawrence wasn’t trousering Qatar money, he would be blathering as he is. He would be spending his time writing piffling little articles for ‘academic’ publications, which no-one would read but others like himself.

  38. Linda Rivera says

    May 13, 2015 at 5:45 pm

    Pamela Geller is a free speech heroine. If our free speech is ever taken away from us, it will be the total ANNIHILATION of freedom.

    Our World War Two heroes fought and died so that we could live in freedom and safety.

  39. mortimer says

    May 13, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    For a scholar, Bruce Lawrence has lost his objectivity. He should meet Pamela Geller and discover what a refined, civilized, loving and compassionate human she is.

    He wrote: “There is no humanity in those whom Geller decries.”

    That is not Pamela Geller at all. This slander deserves an apology.

    • mortimer says

      May 13, 2015 at 6:15 pm

      Who can see the pictures of the jihadists and there vile deeds and not conclude they are ‘savages’.

      When civilized people pursue savages, they do it with discipline and according to the professional standards of warfare…unlike the savages.

      If Bruce Lawrence does not understand this as a scholar, he is in the wrong business. He should get a job in a tavern where no opinion needs to be substantiated with facts.

  40. (Dr.) Sandy Kramer says

    May 13, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Dr. Bruce Lawrence, Professor Emeritus, Islamic Studies Center, Duke University, has an almost poetic perspective concerning the qur’an. His contextualization of jihad as spiritual struggle is as pertinent today as the notion that “gay” refers to the social frivolities of six score years ago. He is an enabler, and shall continue to promote his well-intentioned, though misguided, archaic memes – until his cerebral cortex is metaphorically severed on the proverbial chopping block of contemporary sharia.

  41. John Billings says

    May 13, 2015 at 7:20 pm

    So much talk about this intellectually perverted professor. Now are we in America ready to fight for our freedom?

  42. profitsbeard says

    May 13, 2015 at 8:22 pm

    I wouldn’t care if Mohammad wrote better poetry than Sappho, Shakespeare and Stephen Spender combined- he would still be a grisly pedophile, a sick mass-murdering, sex-slaving scumbag and a ludicrous megalomaniac.

    Islam is a Death Cult. (You try to leave, they try to kill you.)

    Death Cults have no redeeming qualities.

    Not poetry, geometric tile-work, mock Byzantine architecture or kufic calligraphy.

    The fact of being a Death Cult negates everything else.

    That the Nazis enjoyed classical music, fine art, could quote Goethe and Hegel and designed amazing airplanes, rockets and had snazzy uniforms does not make their bloodthirsty monstrosities any less horrific, but actually makes it more grotesque and bizarre and horrendous..

    The same with Islam.

    That some who submitted to the Death Cult also wrote impressive verse only means that superior talent can be swallowed up in a nightmarish and brutal ideology- an ideology that then prostitutes their talents to whitewash its incarnadine mind prison.

    The professor is a quisling and a simpleton.

    An enemy of Civilization posing as a protector it, while truly being an enabler of scorpions who he finds fascinating. Even as they undermine humanity with their retrograde idiocy and imperialistic thrust toward a global theocratic gulag..

    Any religion that needs The Sword reveals its inner corruption.

    May i”Submission” join Moloch and Baal worship in the dustbin of dead deities.

  43. bassi says

    May 14, 2015 at 12:28 am

    There are many more assholes like this cretin who found a post as professor— America will sink with such motherless dogs running academia
    Let him suck up to the theme of Islam, decry free speech (while he is exploiting that very freedom) and read the wonderful poem ——– if he is impotent he could hide his ugly face and offer his fat butt to a desiring Muslim and there are plenty around- he would have done his bidding then

  44. voegelinian says

    May 14, 2015 at 1:47 pm

    “Also, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, the recently killed former Iraqi army general, was the leader of a Naqshbandi Sufi group that was allied with the Islamic State…”

    And as Andrew Bostom’s education of his readers on the mainstream jihadist philosophy of Sufis shows, the above could likely be multiplied several-fold.

    That term “Naqshbandi ” reminded me of a notorious former commenter at Jihad Watch who made such vividly histrionic and hysterical and hyperventilating splash at various comments threads here, she apparently was banned (as we haven’t seen hide nor hair of her since a few years ago). One thread in particular is illuminating, not only showing her predilection to defend the Naqshbandi Sufis, and by extension to make the sinister Fethullah Gulen out to be some kind of a benign Nelson Mandela or something, but also, as in this particular comment —

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/01/islams-trojan-horse-turkish-nationalism-and-the-nakshibendi-sufi-order/comment-page-0#comment-491187

    — revealing just how deeply preoccupied (if not obsessed) she must have been with a fascination & fawning over of that Sufi order. Subsequent comments from other intelligent and useful Jihad Watch readers (including Hugh Fitzgerald) at the time put her recklessly encyclopedic admiration into proper perspective, beginning with this one by “special guest” —

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/01/islams-trojan-horse-turkish-nationalism-and-the-nakshibendi-sufi-order/comment-page-0#comment-491203

    Which reminds me again of the question I put on my blog almost three years ago:

    Whatever Happened to the Lady of the Double AA?

    http://hesperado.blogspot.com/2012/10/whatever-happened-to-lady-of-double-aa.html

  45. gravenimage says

    May 14, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    Duke Prof Bruce Lawrence: Pamela Geller a “free speech jihadi”
    ……………………………………….

    How *sickening*. Just ignore the *actual* Jihadis who were just about to massacre Ms. Geller and an entire auditorium of other innocent people at the Muhammad art show, had a quick-thinking traffic cop not stopped them in their tracks at the last moment.

    More:

    (RNS) Can poetry be an antidote to poison? Can it provide an alternative to the jihad of Pamela Geller?

    A life without His love is nothing but slow death.
    The sum total of love is but three words:
    I-burn, I-burn, I-burn.
    ……………………………………….

    There is no prefect analogy, but this is rather like asking if the music of Wagner—since it was enjoyed by so many Nazis—could have served as an alternative to the “blitzkrieg” of those critical about Hitler’s savagery.

    But the flaw in the thinking is the same: none of this would counter the fact that Jihadis, like WWWi-era Nazis, are hideously violent.

    The fact is that Pam Geller and Robert Spencer and Bosch Fawstin could have been listening to a nice poetry reading of Rumi’s work rather than a speech by Geert Wilders, and Ibrahim Simpson and Nadir Soofi *still* would have gunned them all down.

    Further, the modern love affair with Rumi was started by an American poet and is almost entirely a Western phenomenon—most actual Muslims consider him a lax Muslim *at best*, and many deem him a heretic.

    But this is irrelevant, in any case—even if there where millions of Muslims thrilling to Rumi’s verses, that would not have made the violence of the Jihadi murder plotters go away.

    More:

    For true Sufis, the first fire is the only fire, since it requires the greater struggle, also known as jihad (jihad al-akbar): to conquer one’s self.

    For Geller, as for Ayaan Hirsi Ali, it is only the second fire that matters. Jihad takes but one form: warfare in the name of Allah. The God of Islam produces hate, not love. His fire brings horror rather than hope: Its flames neither thrill nor elevate; they only kill and decimate.
    ……………………………………….

    We can contemplate the “first fire” all we like, while Muslims dedicated to the “second fire” are sawing off our heads…

    More:

    In 2015 we witness a growing imbalance of imagery, perception and practices of Allah sweeping across the Atlantic, from Western Europe to North America. Charlie Hebdo inaugurated the New Year with death and carnage in Paris, then Copenhagen. There was no immediate copycat in the U.S. till the shootings in Garland, Texas, last week.
    ……………………………………….

    What we are witnessing sweeping across the Atlantic are Muslims willing to murder peaceful cartoonists for daring to say that Islam is violent. To say “Charlie Hebdo inaugurated the New Year with death and carnage” is a *shocking* blaming of the victim—not even saying they brought violence from Jihadists on themselves, but somehow implying that they *themselves* were the agents of violence.

    More:

    Not that negative sound bites about Islam have been absent. Hirsi Ali’s latest screed, “Heretic,” received more than the expected favorable features and reviews from Fox News, The Wall Street Journal and NPR’s Diane Rehm Show. An alluring presence, Hirsi Ali is shy on facts but near perfect in affect: Time and again she says nothing with a convincing smile; her acolytes applaud.
    ……………………………………….

    Saying that daring to speak about the violence of Islam is ‘saying nothing’ is ludicrous. And implying that people listen to her because she is lovely and smiles is grotesquely condescending, as is referring to people who value her work as “acolytes”. No mention, either, that Jihdists have tried to kill her many times (and did brutally kill her colleague Theo van Gogh), nor that she has needed 24-hour security for years now because of the severity of the threat.

    More:

    Geller, by contrast, imitates the French extremist Jean-Marie Le Pen. No smiles, just grimaces; the more outrageous the claim, the more tenacious its defense. In 2009 she opposed a mosque project for Ground Zero…

    When Muslims “pray five times a day,” she bellowed, “they’re cursing Christians and Jews five times a day.”
    ……………………………………….

    Neither of these claims are false or “outrageous”. With Lawrence, it is all innuendo.

    More:

    One of the 2012 Washington subway posters she sponsored read: “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man. Support Israel. Defeat Jihad.”
    ……………………………………….

    Is Lawrence *pro* violent Jihad? Wait…don’t answer that…

    More:

    What is missing in these made for media histrionics is the Allah of history, etched in the Quran and replete in the lives of everyday Muslims, from Arabia to America, across Africa, Asia and also Europe. The Allah of piety and poetry, of table talk and critical life decisions, is also the Allah defined, above all, by mercy. The opening words of the Quran announce: In the Name of God, the All Merciful, Always Merciful.
    ……………………………………….

    Where was the “mercy” of the Jihadists who planned to mass-murder the audience at the Curtis Culwell Center? Where the mercy for the victims of all the 25,000+ Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11?

    More:

    While echoes of that Allah resound through the corridors of time and in the daily acts of millions of Muslims, they have been drowned out in 2015 by provocateurs — first Charlie Hebdo terrorists, and then the respondents to Geller’s parlor game in Garland. Hers is a charade of free speech, a mockery of democratic values. If ISIS hates the West, Geller provides its mirror image: hatred of Islam.
    ……………………………………….

    How sickening *is this*? As if what is drowning out the “mercy” of Allah is Infidels who dare to say Islam is violent, rather than the violent Jihadists themselves.

    More:

    Recently a New York court allowed her to continue to garnish buses and subways with a poster that read: “Killing Jews is Worship that draws us close to Allah. That’s His Jihad. What’s yours?”

    If it weren’t so incendiary, it would be ludicrous, but its consequences are far from funny.
    ……………………………………….

    Again, Lawrence does not actually debunk anything Geller says. It is all perfectly factual.

    More:

    There is no humanity in those whom Geller decries. They are subhuman beasts, worthy of any assault…Hers is a responsive jihad, to equal their hate with her hate, matching their physical violence with her verbal violence.
    ……………………………………….

    Look what he is doing here—implying that it is Geller who is inciting violence, rather than her murderous ‘critics’. And then he slyly conflates supposed “verbal violence” with “physical violence”. Firstly, this is false moral equivalence. secondly, it implies that Geller’s claims come out of thin air—they do not.

    More:

    There is more than a minor difference between free speech badly performed and public space consciously subverted. Hirsi Ali upholds free speech yet undermines its practice, never granting her opponents a grain of truth. Geller, however, has made as her modus operandi the repeated abuse of public space for dissemination of her vitriolic message.

    The true lovers of Islam, like Rumi, twist and turn, twirl and burn for Allah. The free-speech jihadis, led by Geller, fume and bluster, excoriate and desecrate. Absent love, they lust for fame, to see their names in headlines yet again, a trophy of ill gain, their only glory but a fleeting fantasy.
    ……………………………………….

    Now Geller—laughably—is ‘abusing public space’ (and doing so repeatedly!) And note his characterization of defending free speech against those who would murder a “desecration”. What exactly does he consider sacred here? Certainly not the First Amendment.

    And then the usual claim—that defenders of free speech are only doing it for the fame.

    Of course, if there were no one who actually cared about free speech, heroes like Pamela Geller and Ayaan Hirsi Ali would never have become as well-known as they have in the first place.

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