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Egypt: After ransom paid, Coptic Christian still murdered

May 22, 2015 3:37 pm By Raymond Ibrahim

EgyptA 55-year-old Coptic Christian man was kidnapped and held for ransom.  Although his family eventually paid, and the Muslim abductors took the money, they still killed the hapless Copt.

On April 26 in Sohag, Upper Egypt, Makram Nazir was returning home from his second job in the middle of the night when he was seized.  His abductors then called his brother and demanded one million Egyptian pounds (equivalent of $131,000 USD).

Being an impossible amount to raise, the Coptic man’s family negotiated a significantly reduced price by phone with the abductors.   The brother went to the local police station, provided them with all the information, including recordings of the phone calls, but, according to Watan News, “no one made a single move or took the matter seriously.”

After paying the ransom, three days passed before Nazir’s family found the Coptic man’s corpse in a canal.

Killing Christian hostages even after loved ones pay their ransom is not uncommon in Egypt.  Such was the case, for instance, of 6-year-old Cyril Joseph: on May 2013, it was reported that his “family is in tatters after paying 30,000 pounds to the abductor, who still killed the innocent child and threw his body in his sewer system, where the body, swollen and moldy, was exhumed.”

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  1. The Doctor says

    May 22, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    That’s the problem with hostage/ransom situations – there’s little way to guarantee the safe return of the hostage.

    And, of course, anyone with any sense knows you can’t trust a Muslim.

    • mortimer says

      May 23, 2015 at 12:20 am

      President Sisi has not significantly changed the violent culture of Egypt. They continue to persecute Christians with impunity. Islamic supremacism has not decreased at all in Egypt, it would seem.

      Same bad, old Egypt of Mubarak and Nasser.

  2. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 22, 2015 at 3:57 pm

    Islam and Peace ?

    People should also note that when Muslims Speak of Islam, whether they are speaking of Islam, Allah, Muhammed, or the Qur’an, no matter on WHICH Venue they are Speaking, they ALWAYS use the SAME PRE PROGRAMMED “Peace” Phrases referring to Islam, and THEMSELVES, such as is Gleaned from the “Teachings” of Muslim Sources:
    __________
    * “…Islam IS ‘The Religion of Peace’…”
    * “…Qur’an or words of the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)…”.
    * “…And the Prophet (peace be upon him) said that …”.
    * “…And in an authentic hadith the Prophet (peace be upon him) said that…”.
    * “…The Prophet, (peace be upon him) is reported to have said…”.
    * “…The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)…”.
    * “…According to Qur’an and Hadith, The saying of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him)…”.
    * “…Salam dear brother, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him), the Quran lays down general principles to guide our actions…”.
    * “…In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, All praise and thanks are due to Allah, and peace and blessings be upon His Messenger…”
    __________
    Whereas, in REALITY Islam HAS DEMONSTRATED, through it’s OWN WELL DOCUMENTED Bloody Butchering Actions and Deeds, and PROVEN itself to be ANYTHING BUT the “Religion of Peace”, and instead Islam IS “The INTOLERANT Religion of HATE”, and in REALITY NOT a “Religion” at all, but a “Death Cult” bent on World Domination, and Territorial Acquisition, using “Religion” as an EXCUSE and a LIE in order to obtain a “Religious Status” (which is ACTUALLY False), in Free Countries (such as America) that offer such benefits.

    Islam and Muslims WILL REFUSE to abide by the Laws of ANY Country, as Islam considers Islamic Sharia Law as “Supreme”, even over America’s Constitution, which IS IN America the SUPREME Law of The Land.

    Islam even wants World Wide Enforced “Blasphemy Laws”, with “Criminal Penalties” FORCED on ANYONE who “Defames” or “Blasphemes” Islam, WHILE on the OTHER HAND Islam feels that IT has the Allah, Muhammed, and Qur’an given RIGHT to “Defame”, Degrade”, and “Blaspheme”, ANY NON ISLAMIC Religion, Belief, or Faith, with an expected “Impunity”.

    Such ARE the Tactics of Islam and Muslim “Accepted” Lying and Deception (known as Taqiyya and Kitman), that advance the cause of Islam, by gaining the trust of Infidel non-believers, in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.

    AND, IF Islamic Taqiyya and Kitman is NOT Effective, in gaining the trust of Infidel non-believers, THEN Islam IS FORCED, on those Remaining, through the “Example” of DEATH to ALL those who refused to accept, INCLUDING to ALL those who initially “Accepted” then left Islam.

    • 1Mjihawgbullets says

      May 23, 2015 at 4:56 am

      That was so well written from the Churchill in you. Your “peace” explanations should be posted on every bulletin board; after it’s engraved in stainless steel and bolted through the board into the wall! Thanks William!

    • VRWC member77 says

      May 23, 2015 at 12:32 pm

      @William,

      Profoundly said.

      If I may say so, perhaps you might want to consider one change of phrase. For example:

      ”
      __________
      * “…Islam IS ‘The Religion of Peace’…”
      * “…Qur’an or words of the Prophet Muhammad (FILTH be upon him)…”.
      * “…And the Prophet (FILTH be upon him) said that …”.
      * “…And in an authentic hadith the Prophet (FILTH be upon him) said that…”.
      * “…The Prophet, (FILTH be upon him) is reported to have said…”.
      * “…The Messenger of Allah (FILTH and NO BLESSINGS be upon him)…”.
      * “…According to Qur’an and Hadith, The saying of Prophet Muhammad (FILTH and NO blessings of Allah be upon him)…”.
      * “…Salam dear brother, the Prophet (FILTH and NO blessings be upon him), the Quran lays down general principles to guide our actions…”.
      * “…In the Name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful, No praise and thanks are due to Allah, and FILTH and NO blessings be upon His Messenger…”
      __________
      Islam HAS DEMONSTRATED…..

      just a thought

  3. Sheri says

    May 22, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    Now there’s a business with low overhead! It was pointed out to me many years ago that the only reason thieves remain in business is because someone is “willing” to pay a price, weather it be stolen goods or human bondage. The “few” remaining Christians now know better than to give into the demands of Islamic terrorist.

  4. Fr. Basil says

    May 22, 2015 at 4:46 pm

    I’ve made sure my church and family and friends all know that if I am kidnapped by mahometan jihadistas, there are to be NO negotiations for my release, and no ransom paid. They either release me safe and sound, or send me to Jesus.

    I pray that, should the latter happen, my three last conscious thoughts are:

    3. I forgive them. Do not charge them with this sin.
    2. Most Holy Theotokos, save us.
    1. Lord Jesus Christ, have mercy on me a sinner.

    • Sheri says

      May 22, 2015 at 4:55 pm

      God’s commandment #6 You shall not murder. (Pretty much scratches their name out of the Book of Life.)

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      May 23, 2015 at 12:56 am

      Fr. Basil, I am deeply saddened that you and your church membership must endure such constant peril. Indeed, I am embarrassed that all I can do is spread your message to others and pray. That, however, I will do.

      I live in a country where few understand the banality of evil such as that which surrounds you. Indeed, in the country I love, efforts to unveil the reality of the unbridled evil that assails you merit character assassination, at the least, in order to appease those few who might be offended by hearing the truth.

      I honor your steadfast loyalty to our God of Love and your stated, potentially three last conscious thoughts. However, I will not refrain from addressing the wickedness of the Islamic texts and writings that inspire and mandate such diabolic activity as premediated, frenzied murder of all who do not adhere to the precepts of “the Best of Deceivers” (Qur’an 3:54).

      Most Holy Theotokos, keep you and yours safe.

      Respectfully,
      Cecilia

  5. Renee says

    May 22, 2015 at 6:05 pm

    It is hard not to hate

  6. Shebel says

    May 22, 2015 at 6:25 pm

    It is hard to hate but it sure is getting to be exremely difficult to ‘turn the other cheek’.

  7. Westman says

    May 22, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    Islam is the Ideology of Warlords. It removes independent thought; replacing it with dogma and ignorant obedience which makes the followers dependent on the Warlords and/or on the unbelievers through Jizya, extortion and pillage.

    Without oil revenue all Islamic countries would experience hostage taking to produce ransom. Islam is unable to sustain itself without skimming off another society.

  8. Linda Rivera says

    May 23, 2015 at 4:29 pm

    Bible, Romans 12:19 VENGEANCE IS MINE, I WILL REPAY, says the Lord.

  9. somehistory says

    May 23, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    Taking hostages, kidnapping, abducting are all done by those who don’t have a respect for the sanctity of life. Most criminals who kidnap for ransom, kill the victim before any ransom is delivered. Many victims are dead when the first demand for ransom is made. Therefore, it is usual in the case when a ransom is paid, it is paid in vain and the murderers get away with money extorted from their victims.
    But in the case of a family given the choice of doing nothing in the realization that their loved one is likely already dead, or doing all they can to meet the demands of the kidnappers in the hope…however small…that their loved one will be returned safe, it is understandable…and so very sad…when the ransom is paid. And so very awful for the family when they find their loved one dead.
    Unfortunately, just like keeping quiet in the face of demands not to speak of the evilness of islam for fear of being killed gives more power to the killers, so does paying ransom give more power to these demonic satan worshippers.

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