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Egypt: Gunmen kidnap 8-year-old Copt from mother’s arms

May 12, 2015 6:31 am By Raymond Ibrahim

seizing childArmed gunmen seized an 8-year-old Coptic Christian child from his mother’s arms.  The child, Antonious Zaki Hani, was walking with his mother to school in Nag Hammadi, where he attended second grade.

Four armed gunmen appeared, forced the child from his mother’s hands under threat of death, and immediately fled in a car.

Since the “Arab Spring” came to Egypt, incidences of Coptic kidnaps have been on the rise.  In Nag Hammadi alone, 77 have been abducted, two of whom were killed.

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  1. mathew says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:20 am

    Robert spencer and Pamela geller are doing such important work exposing theses atrocities that muhameds followers are comiting

    • mortimer says

      May 12, 2015 at 8:18 am

      The Left is beginning to show doubts about protecting Islam from criticism:

      http://www.salon.com/2015/05/10/the_left_has_islam_all_wrong_bill_maher_pamela_geller_and_the_reality_progressives_must_face/?source=newsletter

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        May 12, 2015 at 8:01 pm

        That’s a good link for what the Infidel elites are thinking now, thanks for posting it, Mort.

        Now begins the carefully parsed gyrations of socialists arguing for something that their socialist ideology fundamentally opposes in practice: freedom.

        • spot on says

          May 13, 2015 at 10:46 am

          Alarmed, Below is a link to the book “Slave Soldiers” written almost 35 years ago by Daniel Pipes. It was written as his thesis. The content of this book is based on actual old Arabic records and It vividly describes what is likely in store for this abducted boy.

          After reading this book many years ago, I understood the severe depth of the perversion and evil of Islam. It also gives ample reason why the European Christians reacted to Islam with the Crusades.

          Very sadly, this boy will likely either become a eunuch or a slave soldier. Most likely a slave soldier since I am not sure of the utility of eunuchs in today’s Islam.

          http://www.amazon.com/Slave-Soldiers-Islam-Genesis-Military/dp/0300024479

      • PRCS says

        May 12, 2015 at 9:38 pm

        Thanks much for that link, Mortimer.

        Though APF’s prognostications about the future are likely accurate; for now at least, the author of that article seems to “get it”.

  2. mortimer says

    May 12, 2015 at 8:36 am

    The most optimistic assessment of this kidnapping is that perhaps a family lost a son and wants to ‘replace’ the dead child with the Christian child.

    We pray for the grieving family. There is little chance the child will come back.

    • spot on says

      May 12, 2015 at 11:04 am

      Muslims have a thriving slave trade in Africa as I am sure you know. I have a hard time with optimism regarding the ME.

  3. USMAN says

    May 12, 2015 at 10:42 am

    WHY ISLAM IS GROWING VERY FAST
    They will soon convert the child into Islam.You remember, Boko Haram abducted 292 girls and converted them to Islam at gun point against their will. After this, all of these girls will be raped and if they become pregnant and give birth will their children be Muslims or Christians. Your guess is as good as mine. This has been the modus operandi right from the inception of Islam.

    • t. says

      May 12, 2015 at 4:13 pm

      I must admit you know how Islam works, really well!

    • gravenimage says

      May 12, 2015 at 4:53 pm

      There is, of course, no question about it, USMAN. All children of Muslim fathers are considered Muslim—and this is true even if “dad” was a rapist.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        May 12, 2015 at 8:03 pm

        Well, Barack Hussein’s dad wasn’t a rapist, but he was a bigamist. And the Moslems have pointed out repeatedly that Barack is an apostate, a crime that carries the penalty of death. Thank goodness for the Secret Service. I guess.

    • Peggy says

      May 12, 2015 at 10:07 pm

      Turks were doing exactly the same thing during Ottoman rule over Serbs for 500 years. They used to take male children and raise them Muslim, put them in their army and send them to fight their own people. Naturally these children were too small to remember that they are really Serbs.
      These savages haven’t evolved at all nor are capable of it.

      • gravenimage says

        May 14, 2015 at 2:53 pm

        Very true. Christian girls were also taken for the Harems and slave markets.

  4. somehistory says

    May 12, 2015 at 10:59 am

    This situation, as in many areas of the world, is heartbreaking. Words just don’t suffice.
    Praying that The True God watches over this child, and all others like him, and the parents may be able to endure the pain.
    And the same for all of the other children and their families.Thankfully, there is a time limit to the life of the wild beast and when it is over, it will be over once and for all time.

    • Champ says

      May 12, 2015 at 8:51 pm

      Amen, Somehistory! …and I share your thoughts and your prayers.

    • gravenimage says

      May 13, 2015 at 3:05 pm

      As do I.

  5. Angemon says

    May 12, 2015 at 1:43 pm

    Poor parents, and poor child… 🙁

  6. Joydesigns says

    May 12, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    No doubt this child is now crying out for his mother, to no avail.
    (My heart is breaking!)
    The cruelty of his captors is beyond all human comprehension.
    If you are interested in a way to raise awareness
    of the plight of Coptic Christians (and all people world wide)
    who are targeted by those who follow Muhammad’s ideology,
    check out the 2 minute utube video: Remember Orange Ribbons
    or contact rememberingorangeribbons@gmail.com

  7. gravenimage says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    Egypt: Gunmen kidnap 8-year-old Copt from mother’s arms
    …………………………………

    How horrifying—this poor child and his parents! And will the Egyptian authorities do anything about this? I wouldn’t count on it…

    And this is hardly unusual-Muslims regularly kidnap Christian children in Pakistan, in Iraq, in Syria, in Sudan, in Nigeria, and in many other places.

    Here, in fact, is the story immediately following this one:

    “Egypt: Underage Coptic girl abducted, Muslim neighbor suspected”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/egypt-underage-coptic-girl-abducted-muslim-neighbor-suspected

    The girls are usually raped and forcibly “married” to their rapists. Often victims are told that if they do not convert to Islam that their families will be murdered. Then, if the authorities ever do catch up to them—a rarity, in any case—their captors can claim that they are there voluntarily, and Muslims authorities usually accept this gross fiction. In any case, a “Muslim”—even if they converted out of coercion or force—cannot be allowed to return to Infidels.

    God, I hate Islam.

  8. Champ says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:01 pm

    Only heartless, soulless savages–like these mohammedan men–would snatch a child from his loving mother, in a four armed men against one unarmed woman kidnapping …and now this poor mother, and her family, are left with the horror of wondering what they’re doing to this precious child. Wow mohammedans and their evil acts knows no bounds!

    • spot on says

      May 13, 2015 at 8:49 am

      Champ, I agree completely. Also, I believe we are seeing a modern reincarnation of what led up to the Medieval Crusades. It is not easy to know what Muslims actually did to Christians during medieval times because over the past many centuries academia has a done such a good job of covering it up.

      Islam is just as evil today as it was 1400 years ago, except today we have given them modern technology to perform their evil.

      Islam is such a totally evil cult. They are disgusting barbaric savages.

      • Champ says

        May 13, 2015 at 3:29 pm

        Wholly agree, Spot On!

  9. Byzantine Partisan says

    May 12, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Lord have mercy!

  10. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    Child snatching is terror at it’s most effective. Imagine the fear this latest Jihadi crime puts into the minds of Coptic parents, grandparents and even siblings of a small child over in Egypt.

    This is why Islam is so effective and the belief system is on such a victory roll. As the big man in the sky himself said, I shall terrorize the Infidels!. Or as his Apostle said, I have been made victorious by terror.

    Terror works, plain and simple. Too bad they have to kidnap small children in their operations, but a Moslems gotta do what he’s gotta do to advance The Cause. Because.

  11. Peggy says

    May 12, 2015 at 11:52 pm

    Graven has been here years and years and is one of our treasures. Your little snipe at her pisses me off – for all the right reasons; you, like a true supremacist impostor, assume that she hasn’t understood. Then, in more Mohammedesque behavior, suggest that she not reply. Screw you! And screw Justin. You two are either the same poster or two Mozlems working in tandem, and it is obvious to anyone with half a brain.
    ——————————————–
    Yep, right on cue. I knew I was going to be labelled a Muslim and cop a lot of flack. If something like me being Justin or a Muslim is obvious to anyone with half a brain then you definitely fit the bill. Imagine what you culd come up with if you had quarter of a brain. You would be dangerous.
    Thanks for the lovely words like Screw you.
    You sound like a very sophisticated person and worthy of listening to.
    Sure, I agree that Justin is going overboard with his condemnation of western governments but that is only because he hates Islam so much and has contempt for western governments because they support it. It just annoys me when something this obvious is said and people jump and assume that he loves Islam and hates the west as a result.
    BTW, if you had bothered to read my comments you would see that I have hatred for Islam and am always condemning it you would not make a fool of yourself by saying that I am a Muslim.

  12. Peggy says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:03 am

    gravenimage says

    May 12, 2015 at 11:15 pm

    Peggy, I understand the appalling Justin all too well.

    ===========================
    I am not trying to have an argument with you or anyone here but I really don’t see anything false in Jstin’s post. Yes, he is going a bit too far with condemnation of the west but by what he said he is angry becaues the west is aiding the Muslims and not helping the Christians. Nothing he said is not true. The anger he said it wish is over the top but there is nothing untrue there.
    I am only going on this post and not adressing anything else he said at other times and that’s why I had the response to you that I had.
    I did not say you are not allowed to respond as the person after you who was quite rude has said. but that your response was not addressing what he was saying and unless it does it’s worth replying.
    I do apologise for coming across as rude as there was no offense intended but it does bother me when people start labelling others as Muslims when clearly they are not and this Philip guy has done that to me and Justin before and I am a bit sensitive to that.

    • gravenimage says

      May 13, 2015 at 3:50 pm

      Peggy wrote:

      I am not trying to have an argument with you or anyone here but I really don’t see anything false in Jstin’s post. Yes, he is going a bit too far with condemnation of the west but by what he said he is angry becaues the west is aiding the Muslims and not helping the Christians. Nothing he said is not true. The anger he said it wish is over the top but there is nothing untrue there.
      ……………………………………….

      I just noted that Justin constantly condemns the West, and very seldom indicates that he has any problem at all with violent Muslims themselves. I believe that was clear not just from Justin’s previous posts, but from the specific one above.

      I have noted many times that the West’s approach to the threat of Islam is woefully naïve, clueless, and confused, and that this also presents a grave danger to us. But Justin’s constant claims that the West is deliberately out to destroy Christianity is simply false.

      This is, in fact, projection. Justin is the one who has constantly called on God to destroy the West.

      More:

      I did not say you are not allowed to respond
      ……………………………………….

      I never implied that you had.

      More:

      I do apologise for coming across as rude as there was no offense intended but it does bother me when people start labelling others as Muslims when clearly they are not and this Philip guy has done that to me and Justin before and I am a bit sensitive to that.
      ……………………………………….

      I very much appreciate Philip Jihadski’s kind words about myself—it means a great deal to me.

      For myself, I have never personally believed that either you or Justin were Muslim, nor that you and he were the same poster. (I know that Philip considers me naïve on this point).

      That being said, though, I don’t believe that Justin is an actual Anti-Jihadist, either. He has said that he would be fine with the West being destroyed by God using Muslims as his instrument. In other words, he is fine with Mohammedans overrunning us, with all the immense horror and suffering that this would cause, as well as the massive global emboldening of Islam. He does not just believe that this is God’s will—bad enough—but he prays that God with sanction this appalling evil.

      That doesn’t sound like any sort of ally to me. I rarely cross post, but when someone’s agenda is that ugly, I feel is incumbent upon me to point it out to other readers who may not be familiar with his history here.

      What I’m not sure of is why you feel so compelled to defend him. Perhaps you have missed his larger vision?

      • Peggy says

        May 13, 2015 at 7:00 pm

        I have stated this before but most likely you missed that post. I don’t defend Justin. What I do is see through his anger and sarcasm.
        When he said that Turks are our allies and freinds I believe that he is being sarcastic and trying to show western governments as idiots. Like I said, his anger is very strong and he is repetitive of his condemnation of the west but I admit that I could be wrong and he may not be directing all the anger at western governments only.
        This is how I interpret his posts and all I am trying to do is put that out there for people to consider.
        It can be frustrating to constantly read condemnation of one’s country but again, I might be wrong, I inerpret that as Justin making the west more guilty because not only does the west allow these evil crimes to happen but in some cases aids the Jihadists. In Justin’s eyes it seems as thought the west is more guilty then.

        I cannot speak for him but this is my interpretation of his posts. That’s why i get angry when some people label anyone who is different here as a Muslim. We all express ourselves in different way but that should not be mistaken for being Muslims.

        So I am basically defending the right to individual expression as long as there is no false labels or name calling. I don’t want to fight with Philip but his attacks on individual posts are extreme and his accusations are untrue. No reasonable person can defend Philip’s attacks.
        Again, I did not mean any insult to you and it just hit a nerve a little and I went into automatic reply which is wrong to do.

        • gravenimage says

          May 14, 2015 at 3:24 pm

          Peggy wrote:

          It can be frustrating to constantly read condemnation of one’s country…
          …………………………

          I have no problem with criticism of US policy or culture, even if I don’t agree with the specific point in question. I am frequently critical of my country’s official policies myself, especially under this current administration. I have never believed that any nation is, or should be, above criticism. Constructive criticism is, in fact, one of the primary things that helps keep a nation honest.

          But constantly demanding that God destroy America and the West is to my mind a very different matter.

          More:

          So I am basically defending the right to individual expression
          …………………………

          I have never once called for Justin’s banning, nor implied that he should not be allowed to express himself here. I may have asked him why he bothers posting here given his aims, but that is a rather different matter.

          My replying to his comments is also individual expression.

          In any case, thank you for your courteous reply.

  13. Peggy says

    May 13, 2015 at 1:51 am

    Philip Jihadski says

    May 13, 2015 at 12:43 am

    No – you didn’t write the exact words. Write EXACTLY what I said; and you hedged your bet by saying, “I am not Justin.” That’s also a form of kitman.
    —————————
    OK, here we go.

    “I despise Mohammed. He is not a prophet. I spit on the Koran,
    I cannot in say that I hate all Muslims because reason tells me that you can find good people anywhere just like you can find evil people anywhere.

  14. tilda says

    May 13, 2015 at 4:41 am

    Their ancestors built the pyramids…. Look at them now…. They were better served by their old gods than by allah.

  15. Kathleen says

    May 13, 2015 at 6:42 am

    Well said Peggy!!!

  16. Linda Rivera says

    May 13, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    Muslim satanic cruelty and horror never ends. I dread to think of the filthy and terrible things that are perpetrated on this precious innocent little Christian boy.

    The pain and emotional agony of the parents and family are beyond bearing.

    Please God, surround this child and ALL who have been kidnapped by satanic Muslim monsters, with Your Holy angels. Please give them Your comfort, peace and strength. Rescue them! When they die, take each one to be with You in heaven – safe at last. Amen

  17. Champ says

    May 13, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    Graven wrote:

    “Egyptian Former Muslim”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Hi Graven, yes, I seem to remember he called himself, “Egyptian Ex-Muslim” ..among other monikers, as well.

  18. dumbledoresarmy says

    May 14, 2015 at 10:09 am

    This is why Copts often tattoo a small cross onto their children, usually somewhere where it will be very difficult to remove. To say, as we say in the Christian liturgy of baptism, “This day you are marked as Christ’s own, **for ever**”.

    Right now, in many western countries, tattoos seem to have become terribly fashionable. I don’t find them all that appealing, but.. right now I wouldn’t be surprised to find sane, decent, well-informed western Christians deciding to get tattooed…on the wrist or on the forehead…with the Coptic cross.

  19. gravenimage says

    May 14, 2015 at 3:46 pm

    Thanks, Mo.

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