So don’t draw any Muhammad cartoons, people, and maybe they won’t hurt us.
Anyway, why are there potentially thousands of followers of the Islamic State in the U.S.? The FBI shows a remarkable lack of curiosity about that. Of course, Bureau policy is to ignore the ideology, motives and goals of the jihadis. Muslims are streaming into this Islamic group that the Obama Administration insists is not Islamic, and nary an Administration official stops even for a second to ponder how this strange phenomenon came to be.
“FBI Chief: Potentially ‘thousands’ of online ISIS followers in US,” ABC News, May 7, 2015:
There may be as many as thousands of people inside the United States consuming online “poison” from ISIS alone, and, “I know there are other Elton Simpsons out there,” FBI director James Comey warned today, referring to one of the men who opened fire outside of an event in Texas earlier this week celebrating artists’ portrayals of the Prophet Mohammad.
“We have a very hard task” in trying to identify and stop anyone inspired to launch an attack inside the U.S. homeland, Comey told ABC News’ Pierre Thomas and a small group of reporters.
Such efforts have become particularly challenging because ISIS has reconfigured and redefined terrorist recruitment, according to Comey. In fact, while the FBI is trying to find that so-called needle in a haystack, “increasingly the needles are invisible to us,” he said.
As recently as two years ago, someone in the United States who wanted to consume “radical poisonous propaganda” would have to seek that out on the Internet, most likely on a jihadist web forum. So the FBI focused its investigative efforts on those jihadist web forums, Comey said.
But “that has changed dramatically, especially with [ISIS] and their use of social media,” where on phones in people’s pockets they ask Americans and other foreigners “to travel to the so-called caliphate to fight” but simultaneously say, “If you can’t travel, kill where you are,” according to Comey.
“It’s almost as if there is a devil sitting on the shoulder saying, ‘Kill, kill, kill, kill’ all day long,” he said. “[They are] recruiting and tasking at the same time. … In a way, the old paradigm between ‘inspired’ and ‘directed’ breaks down here.”…
Comey, meanwhile, warned that even when the FBI finds someone who has in fact connected with ISIS, keeping track of that person is becoming increasingly difficult.…
Especially since the FBI is bound as a matter of policy not to study or understand the motivating ideology of these people.
mortimer says
Good! Quantifying the problem is the first step, then finding out the cause.
The cause is ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS. By monitoring ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS, they will find virtually all the jihadists.
What do they learn in Islamic study groups? They learn the source texts of Islam…the individual duty of jihad.
dlbrand says
Amen, mortimer.
David says
I commend you on your alertness. Part of the problem, a major part is education and until the west realises that and deals with it no real progress can be made.
Fanaticism and hatred are being taught in these schools.
What we are witnessing is the disintegration of Islam from a once spiritual force for good to a political organisation intent on ruling the world.
Just as religion in the west has failed to prevent rampant materialism and allow it to erode its moral fibre resulting in lawlessness, drug addiction and the like, the disintegration of Islam has led to fanaticism arising in large numbers.
Today, neither Islam nor Christianity can prevent a nuclear holocaust. the racism in America can result in destruction of American cities without terrorism being involved. Such is the plight of a godless world where fanatics and greed rules.
Only spirituality and turning back to God and a virtuous life can ultimately rescue humanity but that is not about to happen anytime soon.
John Cooper says
Christianity has always been under attack from evil within and without.
But Islam is Satan’s masterpiece. It has never been anything but evil.
You are a well intended blind man making you unintentionally the servant of evil.
May the Living God open your eyes.
dumbledoresarmy says
And where are those ‘study groups’ based?
Are they *all* online?
Or…are they taking place at the mosques? The Islamic schools aka madrasas? The Islamic Bookshops, and Community Centres? And, for that matter, on campuses – in high schools and on university campuses – where the Muslim student groups get together.
Every local police force should keep a close and beady eye on every one of those. That’s what the NYPD was doing. It was keeping an eye on actual Muslims.
And – while we are afflicted with invading Ummah colonies – the *rest* of us can do exactly that, whether our cops and intelligence agencies are doing it, or not. If you have muslims living next door – WATCH them. If you’re on campus and you have Muslim students, colleagues or classmates… WATCH. Listen, watch, pay attention, be aware. Know where their ‘prayer room’ is. Know when and where their ‘student association’ meetings are. find out what sneaky dawa or anti-Israel activities they are engaging in. If you have Muslim colleagues, customers, classmates: **watch**, listen, never drop your guard. And …smile and be neutral and nice, don’t let them know you’re onto them. If you get any sort of funny feeling, watch closer, and be prepared to raise the alarm even if it turns out to be a false alarm.
If the local mosque has one of these “Let’s Smile and Lie and Fool the Stupid Kuffar” “Open Days”…get together a small group of well-informed people like yourself and …go along. Approach it *exactly* as if you were doing a recce of a Nazi outpost in Occupied France. *Assume* that the mosque is a military base. *Assume* that it’s up to no good and then ask yourself: why is it *here*, just *here*, and not anywhere else in this suburb/ city? Why here? What makes *here* important…given that Islam is all about taking, seizing, holding and dominating ‘turf’?? And if there are obviously naive and uninformed fellow infidels swallowing down Muslim nonsense and lies…try to get into conversation with them: let them know, very calmly and quietly, about the Muslim blasphemy law and the Muslim apostasy law and the basis of those two ‘laws’ in the Islamic texts, and how both are very much realities wherever there are Muslims, driving Musilm behaviour toward dissenting/ defecting fellow Muslims and toward deemed-too-uppity non-Muslims in many, many places.
particolor says
I saw a lot of them there in Cultimore ! Practising for the Big One ! 🙁
gravenimage says
Mortimer, the problem isn’t just study groups. Muslims learn Jihad at home from their parents and other relatives, at the Mosque from the Imam and other Mosque-goers, from their thug buddies, from reading the texts of Islam, from Jihad commentators, from Jihad groups, formal or informal, and on-line, as well as from organized study groups. Even if every study group was shut down, we would still haver a huge problem.
gravenimage says
I should have mentioned the Madrasses and Islamic schools, as well.
dlbrand says
“ ‘There may be as many as thousands of people inside the United States consuming online “poison” from ISIS alone, and, “I know there are other Elton Simpsons out there.’””
Indeed. And from the first to the last of them, not a one of those are changing their “religion”; they are obeying it, practicing it.
jihad3tracker says
WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED ??? Robert and Pam many years ago, of course . . .
As a person who HAS personal defense firearms, let me AGAIN urge readers here to buy their own protection, become educated + trained, and GET A CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT.
Six months from now, if ISIS robots succeed, the pistols / shotguns / rifles you thought would be available to buy might be already sold.
Let me mention again a very important fact : to qualify for a concealed carry permit, it is NOT required to take an expensive “live fire” instructor course.
Try a Google search : “gun training online” — that will lead to many video resources . . .Devote serious time to this. YOUR LIFE MAY WELL DEPEND ON IT.
jihad3tradker says
More specifics which might be helpful for newbies —–
Here is a REASONABLY PRICED video course ($19.95) for getting certified with a document you can then take to your local county clerk-of-the-court for a CCW permit application : www (dot) vaguntraining (dot) com.
I SUCCCESSFULLY GOT MY OWN CONCEALED CARRY PERMIT FROM THEM. They also offer the possibility of working with you who reside in other states that honor reciprocity agreements with Virginia.
There are many websites which try to panic you into paying too much for a training certificate — as much as $80.00. Beware of them . . .
Also, as a commenter noted recently on Jihad Watch, Grover Norquist continues to be a board member of the NRA, I would highly recommend an alternative for 2nd Amendment advocacy — www (dot) gunowners (dot) org.
And remember this : concealed carry pistols do NOT have to be in uncomfortable holsters inside your jacket / pants / boots. CARRY THE PISTOL IN A BACKPACK THAT YOU TAKE ALONG EVERY DAY TO WORK OR SCHOOL.
D :
dumbledoresarmy says
You had better advise anyone who takes your advice to also be prepared to practise, practise, practise, practise.
The cop who took out those two jihadis – bang! bang! – with cool and deadly aim, whilst **not hitting anybody else** – must surely have spent a LOT of time down at the range, honing his skills. So that when he had to, he could think very fast and aim straight.
Anyone who equips themselves with a weapon – of whatever kind – had better factor in plenty of time spent practising.
And that *also* applies to anyone who signs up for self defence classes, unarmed combat/ martial arts and the use of *other* sorts of weapons besides firearms; having once made the decision, regular practice will have to be the order of the day.
abad says
Muslims want to kill you whether or not you draw Muhammad cartoons……
Manuel Paleologus says
You said right. It does not matter what people wright or not, the Muslim ideology wants the eradication of all non-Muslims and then start the killing of the other Muslim sect.
Islam is not a religion. It is a diabolic system meant to destroy the human race as much as it will be allowed.
The Islam takes’ advance of the freedom of speech in the Western countries to penetrate and create a mess.. When Islam will allow Christians to establish their own churches in their countries without being harm, then we can talk about Islam ideology.
Just check what the Byzantine Emperor Manuel II Paleologus wrote about Islam. The great Pope Benedict quoted him once and got into ‘trouble’.
Joseph says
Well golly gee! Why don’t we import more of the Muslim slime to the US so that a year from now we can say “Remember the good old days when there were only thousands of the buggers wanting to kill you.”
Agent of Liberty says
Why do we Americans even have to be worried about this problem in our own country. Safety with an Islamic free United States!
The Solution is outlawing islam here. Mass deportations of the two million American muslims. Get rid of islam forever! Islam disgusts me! GET OUT MUSLIMS!
YES WE CAN CAN!
dlbrand says
Agent of Liberty says: “Why do we Americans even have to be worried about this problem in our own country. “
Reason: because far too many a fool among us, unread on Islam, welcome it here.
Therefore, they defend the right of the Muslim to live here and enjoy the freedom to practice here the tenets of that faith.
That is why we have to live with this daily threat to our beings, our possessions, our loved ones–because far too many among us fail to regard just precisely what the so-called “sacred texts” of Islam instruct.
Agent of Liberty says
Dbrand, Talk, The only course of action we can take. Keep informing the uneducated or unwilling about the subversion of islam here. This is what I do. Create public opinion on the dangers of islam.
dlbrand says
Amen. Their beloved to-be-emulated so-called prophet asserted, to those mocking him, ” I bring you slaughter!”
Did so, while still in Mecca. How damn blind, fearful, obsequious must we be?
Either we expunge Islam from our nation in our lifetime or we leave that task to our children’s children, should they wish to live as more than subjects to Islamic supremacy.
Betty says
start with the one in the dirty house.
Susan says
I, as a Canadian, am sending an email to Harper to ask him to look into taking away the religious status from islam. That is step one. Any good lawyer could present, in court, the idea of islam not being a religion but a dangerous political ideology. After that the sh!t will hit the fan and the rest will take care of itself. I can only dream. Correction any six year old can unmask islam, however layers have more power.
Susan says
Typo, lawyers.
Ren says
Kill the ideology just like American did in Japan regarding Shinto at the end of Second World War, or just like English did regarding Sati in India as related by Robert. Don’t try to be friends with an ideology that only aims to submit you.
Agent of Liberty says
Yes Ren!
KILL THE IDEOLOGY!
Matthieu Baudin says
To their credit the British outlawed Sati during the Raj and chose to actively oppose it instead of turning a blind eye towards that tradition. Since independence the Indian Parliament has extended the authority of secular law over many aspects of religious practice and excesses including violence that has emanated from the Kali Cult. The problem in India usually revolves around enforcement of the law, which varies with region, state, the force of tradition and issues of trust; however the principal that modern law and human rights have precedence over archaic and inhumane religious traditions is broadly recognised and accepted, something Pakistan would do well to emulate.
gravenimage says
Pakistan will *never* do this. It is an Islamic state.
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
FOX News’s Bill O’Reilly seems to recommend do NOT “Insult” or “Mock” Islam or the Prophet Muhammed.
However, I answered YES on the Bill O’Reilly Poll.
The Poll Results will be Announced On the Air when the Poll Closes.
I’m Hoping for a Resounding YES, but who knows, since it is an open Poll, the Muslims could “Bloc Vote”, overwhelm the Poll, and turn the Poll into a NO.
__________
Bill O’Reilly Official Home On The Web http://www.billoreilly.com/
O’Reilly Poll
Do you support the group American Freedom Defense Initiative mocking the Islamic religion?
yes
no
duh_swami says
Bill O is a pompous punk in my book…I knew that before he swallowed shahada, hook line and sinker……
somehistory says
“….“increasingly the needles are invisible to us,” he said.”
******************************************************************
That’s because they are not *needles in a haystack*….they are needles in stacks of needles. Trying to determine which needles have. been sharpened to the point of use for violence is harder when all of the surroundings are other needles.
And refusing to see from where the needles are getting their incitement for violence…even if he says they are hearing the devil saying *kill, kill, kill, kill*….and recognizing islam as the source of the messaging for so long gave all of them a head start.
But the Bible said it would be so two thousand years ago. (Revelation 13).
Westman says
Is there a case of a Muslim terrorist, yelling Allahu Akbar, who never attended a Mosque? Didn’t think so.
The seed is planted in the Mosques; anyone can water it.
Matthieu Baudin says
‘… But “that has changed dramatically, especially with [ISIS] and their use of social media,” where on phones in people’s pockets they ask Americans and other foreigners “to travel to the so-called caliphate to fight” but simultaneously say, “If you can’t travel, kill where you are,” according to Comey.
“It’s almost as if there is a devil sitting on the shoulder saying, ‘Kill, kill, kill, kill’ all day long,” he said. “[They are] recruiting and tasking at the same time. … In a way, the old paradigm between ‘inspired’ and ‘directed’ breaks down here.”…
Comey, meanwhile, warned that even when the FBI finds someone who has in fact connected with ISIS, keeping track of that person is becoming increasingly difficult.…’
………….
If the problem has deteriorated to this level of insecurity then powers of arrest and detention need to be simplified and strengthened. Monitoring is only useful in so far as it helps to prevent threats, fatwas, intimidation and violence against U.S. citizens. War was declared on Sept 11th 2001, but so far it seems to have produced a glut of professional mourners and a minority of real fighters.
cs says
Oh well, nothing to worry about, everything is under control, Obama is ruling over US…
Lia Wissing says
I really do think that the FBI & all the other law enforcement & security people have either never burned their old manuals or are dusting them off & studying them again, leaving all the Mr Obama-purged material prominently on their bookshelves/desks to comply with admin. instructions. But they do know what’s happening …
gravenimage says
I hope you’re right, Lia.
joyce says
How about we start with: Removing all the muslim-brotherhood people from the govt, including Jeh Johnson, head of Homeland Stupidity… then STOP obama from importing tens of thousands of muslim “refugees” from other countries (why aren’t we taking in Christian refugees instead? They’re the ones who are being slaughtered!) And finally, SECURE THE EFFING BORDER and stop letting gang members and terrorists in. These things are so obvious. Our gov’t claims they are fighting a war on terrorists, but their very actions belie that claim as they do these things, and then they go and proclaim that American Christians, vets, conservatives, and gun owners are the terrorists. One must conclude that the official terrorists here are the members of our own gov’t, who seek to turn America into a muslim communist state and break their oaths to uphold the law and Constitution on a daily basis.
dumbledoresarmy says
Got Muslims? – Got Jihad.
The Ummah, or Mohammedan Mob, is the nurturing and sheltering sea within which the jihadis, the sharia assassins and hit-men, swim, and from which, ceaselessly, they emerge.
And the bigger and/ or stronger and more politically and socially powerful the Ummah, wherever it may be, is or perceives itself to be, the more jihadis will pop up, faster and faster, and the more violent they will be.
Muslim ‘communities’ in majority non-Muslim lands are a Fifth Column of the Ummah or Mohammedan Mob, the de facto empire of Islam. That’s the harsh reality. The apparently ‘nice’ apparently ‘peaceful’ Muslims function as human shielding for the violent assassins; and – unless they apostasise altogether and publicly declare their apostasy – can morph into assassins themselves, all too often.
All of us, wherever we are, are going to have to start telling our elected representatives that we want *all* Muslim entry into our countries, *stopped*. Now. Yesterday.
We can also state that we want laws revised so that *any* muslim from our lands – whether from an immigrant ummah colony, or a native-born infidel-background convert to Islam, like Elton Simpson – who leaves to join jihad in places like Syria, Yemen, Somalia, Iraq, etc, will not be prevented from leaving; but will be stripped of citizenship – or formally and publicly declared Exile and Outlaw – and absolutely prevented from ever being allowed back in.
Just keep repeating, over and over, the observable facts that I have summed up in the first two sentences of this post. Say,over and over – Got Muslims? Got Jihad. Once people get that through their heads, various practical courses of action will become possible, step by step.
Hammer home the simple fact: If there were NO Muslims in the USA, the attack on the art competition in Garland, Texas, simply could not and would not have happened; there would have been nobody in the USA to heed the summons to attempt to enforce the sharia blasphemy law.
Had there been NO Muslims in the Netherlands, Theo Van Gogh would most likely still be alive, and there would be no real reason by “Submission” could not be screened in cinemas.
Had NO Muslims been permitted into the UK, the bombing on 7 July 205 could not have happened.
If France had never allowed any Muslims inside their gates, the mass murder, by Muslims, of Charlie Hebdo cartoonists and of Jews could not have been carried out. (And Ilan Halimi would still be alive, and so would Rabbi Jonathan Sandler and his two little sons, and little Miriam Monsonego, and Sebastien Selam; all of them Jews, murdered by Muslims, on the soil of France).
dlbrand says
dumbledoresarmy says, “Got Muslims? – Got Jihad.”
Indeed, my Friend, dda.
Well stated.
Add to it: you welcome Islam on the stage in your nation, you got it. Be forewarned, in the Muslim mind is deeply rooted, all that goes with, behind and before, the assertion of Ibn Abbas, ““Islam is always superior and never inferior.”
(Bukhari, The Book of Funerals, Intro, Chapter 79, Preface to hadith #1354, P. 250, Vol. 2.)
In other words, on no stage, in no band will Islam for long contentedly play second fiddle.
Angemon says
Comey is not acknowledging the problem, he’s taking the symptom and saying the symptom is the problem without identifying its root cause. Why are there thousands of people like Simpson in the US? Islamic teachings, that’s why. Not “extreme” or “radical” islamic teachings, just standard, run-of-the-mill islamic teachings. And until that fact is wholeheartedly accepted by the people on charge, if not by the average Joe on the street, whatever measures are taken to fight the symptom are bound to fail in the long run.
traci94 says
I am so angry with Obama and his administration I could scream. If he had taken this seriously when ISIS was just a “jv” team, and stepped up as the leader he is supposed to be and actually done something to “denigrate and destroy” this evil group, we would be in a much better position today than we actually are. His refusal to develop a strategy for this problem, his continued allowance of Muslim (and any) mass immigration to the US, his refusal to accurately identify the problem…I could go on. But, all of this has emboldened ISIS, and now we learn that there could be thousands of members here, all ready to kill in the name of their god. Either he has been just intentionally putting his head in the sand or he just really doesn’t care about American lives; I am really inclined to believe the latter.
Asian Crusader says
I am so angry with Obama and his administration I could scream. If he had taken this seriously when ISIS was just a “jv” team, and stepped up … we would be in a much better position … [Obama’s] refusal to develop a strategy for this problem, his continued allowance of Muslim (and any) mass immigration to the US, his refusal to accurately identify the problem…
Let’s stop pretending. OBAMA ALWAYS WANTED TO HELP ISLAM SUBVERT AMERICA. Countless pronouncements throughout Obama’s public career since the 1980s were clear “dog whistles” to let Obama’s far-left and Muslim supporters and donors know what was really “going down.”
The sense of being “in” on a secret plot to subvert America (“white privilege” in progressive speak) lends a delicious frisson of naughtiness and AUTHENTICITY to the empty lives of horders of soul-less Obama zombies. “We are fighting right-wing, Islamophobic squares! We are the future.”
Roger MacInness says
Do your job and protect our individual rights.
Peter Castle says
Ann Coulter absurdly contends that Americans are under no threat of attack by Islamic terrorists in the United States despite all of the evidence that, in fact, the jihadist threat has grown and magnified during the Obama administration.
See: “Coulter Denies Islamist Threat” at http://wp.me/p4jHFp-69.
duh_swami says
1.6+ billion Mahoundians can’t be wrong can they?
They all believe in Allah, most of them believe in Mahound, or at least have heard of him…Lots of them are illiterate, but they have Imams to tell them what’s up…So it must be just a tiny minority, of a few million, that misunderstand it. If all you have is a few million people trying to kill you, don’t worry, it can always get worse…
Gary says
“It’s almost as if there is a devil sitting on the shoulder saying, ‘Kill, kill, kill, kill’ all day long,”
James Comey is correct. The devil, (Satan), is sitting on the shoulder of his children……
“Woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has come down to you, having great wrath, knowing that he has only a short time.”
Revelation 12:12
The world is blind to the fact that Islam is a lie from the pit of hell.
“The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly.”
John 10:10
“The prophet” was – anything but – a “Holy Prophet”
“You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies. ”
John 8:44
Mohammad was a child of Satan!
Yet millions continue to follow the ‘faith’ of Islam……
….. The blind leading the blind.
gravenimage says
“It’s almost as if there is a devil sitting on the shoulder saying, ‘Kill, kill, kill, kill’ all day long,” he said.
…………………………..
Well, that pretty much sums up Islam’s influence on Muslims.
Doesn’t sound as though Comey actually intends to do anything with knowledge, though.
underbed cat says
How can so many strange deadly incidents happen without the public suspecting these are way above normal and not be curious enough to inform themselves about terrorism. When I question people who think I am too “paranoid”, I am slapped in the face (figuratively) with the comment that I can’t handle it and let the government handle it., then I feel the panic… I know they have no clue about our present situation with leadership. I too have fears…see far too many adults with cell phones, backpacks sharia compliant beards..hear too many fireworks or loud noise to stay calm. So this report although worrisome says to me they are on the problem and the words will spread for the safety of all.