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Geller, Wilders, Spencer “fighting the West’s battle for freedom”

May 13, 2015 11:01 pm By Robert Spencer

SpencerFawstinWildersGellerBut as those who are excoriating us for “provoking” Muslims with this contest are cowed and intimidated into total submission, they can console themselves that at least they were never “provocative.”

“What Good Is Free Speech If You Can’t Speak Freely?,” by Jerry Newcombe, Christian Post, May 13, 2015:

By now, gallons of ink have been spilled on the recent meeting (over the May 2-3 weekend) in the Dallas area where the contest was held on who could draw the best picture of Mohammed.

Anti-jihadist blogger Pamela Geller of New York organized the contest. Two American jihadists drove hundreds of miles to kill the “infidels” and were killed in the process.

Franklin Graham remarked that the recent Garland conclave was misguided. As a Christian, he says we shouldn’t insult anybody’s religion. Like me, he believes the ultimate answer to the radical Islam issue is the gospel of Jesus Christ, who is more than just a prophet.

But Graham also pointed out that that radical Islamists “have no right to go around shooting people because someone mocks them.”

Free speech rights are found in those countries rooted in Judeo-Christian tradition. They are not found in those places built on other worldviews.

One of the most amazing aspects of the story was the largely unreported fact that Geert Wilders came all the way from Holland to attend the Garland meeting.

Who is Geert Wilders? He is a controversial Member of Parliament in the Netherlands and the founder of an upstart political party (Freedom Party), which has already begun to make its mark on that country’s politics.

Geert Wilders is taking a courageous stand by warning the West about the Islamization of the same and the freedoms lost in its wake.

He never sleeps in the same place more than two nights in a row because of the multiple death-threats he faces from “the religion of peace.”

In 2008, Geert Wilders made an Internet movie about radical Islam, called Fitna (Arabic for upheaval, chaos), and for that he is on trial in his own country for allegedly violating hate crimes laws. The European Union tried him for hate crimes, but after a grueling trial, he was exonerated.

His short film simply makes the point that the jihadists—who attacked on 9/11, at the Madrid train bombing, in London in 2005, etc.—did what they did because they were obeying what the Qu’ran tells them to do. That’s the essence of his film. Ideas have consequences. Tell the faithful followers of Allah that they should “slay the infidel wherever you find them” (Surah 9:29 from the Qur’an), and 9/11 happens. That’s the point Wilders makes in his movie.

Of course, most Muslims, including Qur’an-readers, do not engage in these Jihadist activities. Wilders admits as much. But those who do get their inspiration from the book.

I sat down in early 2009 and had a television interview with Geert Wilders about all the controversy. He had multiple bodyguards.

I asked him why he made the movie. He answered, “I fear the Islamization of our societies.” He also said, “Sure, there are moderate Muslims. We should try to invest in moderate people.”

This is a long-term fight over free speech. Pamela Geller, the event’s organizer, once told me in an interview: “One big problem that America really has to watch out for [is] where they’re imposing Sharia drip by drip, by shutting up people like myself and my colleagues, like Robert Spencer [publisher of jihadwatch.org], by defaming us because we speak…you know they call it ‘Islam-a-phobia.'”

She adds, “What it is, is jihad-phobia, and you should be afraid of the jihad frankly…But it’s part of this Islamic supremacist narrative…you cannot criticize Islam.” She said these things in 2011, some three years before the Garland incident.

Liberals used to at least pay lip service to the notion of free speech. Remember the ACLU? Lately, they seem to have found a religion they can finally get behind—radical Islam. My guess is that since both hate conservative Christianity so much, they have found common cause.

The ACLU used to argue that attacks on free speech rights are a slippery slope. If someone loses their right to free speech, we all lose it.

So in the late 1970s, they offended virtually everybody by going to court on behalf of the free speech rights of a group of neo-Nazis to march in Skokie, Illinois, which at the time had some 7000 survivors of the Holocaust residing therein.

In this current battle, Pamela Geller, Geert Wilders, and Robert Spencer are the proverbial canaries in the coalmine. They are fighting the West’s battle for freedom. If they lose, so does freedom. As one pundit recently noted, if free speech protections do not protect unpopular speech—at the height of its unpopularity—then they aren’t really free speech protections.

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  1. rev g says

    May 13, 2015 at 11:15 pm

    One has to wonder where these voices defending tbe sanctity of religion were for the last few decades or more. Even now,when Christian figures as well as those of other religions (besides islam) are parodied, satirized, and denigrated, do these voicex rush to condemn tbe actions.

    Perhaps there is lesson for those other religions in this. If you want people to respect your views and important figures you have to terrorize a few detractors.

    It is a sad day for freedom.

    • mortimer says

      May 13, 2015 at 11:27 pm

      Agree. The doubletalk of the cultural Marxists is breathtaking, but it is UNDERSTANDABLE when one knows their goal which is the destruction of European civilization based on the Judeo-Christian Golden Rule and critical thought. Islam is base on the Mob Rule and authoritarian thought. Those are rules the Marxists understand.

  2. mortimer says

    May 13, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    “Franklin Graham remarked that the recent Garland conclave…and…we shouldn’t insult anybody’s religion.”

    Here’s an intelligent man who has bothered to learn what the issues are.

    Sharia law’s vigilante murder provision is the problem. It’s dangerous to defy Sharia law, because every single private Muslim is authorized to take the law into his own hands and kill the blasphemers with impunity.

    Sharia LAW is the problem…not ‘RELIGION’.

    • spot on says

      May 14, 2015 at 8:41 am

      Mortimer, Your use of Cultural Marxist really helps put a simple tag on the difference between the “conservative” and “liberal” Christians. Cultural Marxist believe in the central tenets of Marxism without realizing it. Cultural Marxist Christians do not understand how Marxism and Christianity are diametrically opposed to one another. They are competing philosophies as are Paganism and Christianity. It is an “either” “or” situation. One will undermine the other.

      Yet we commonly see Priests and now the Pope as believers in both the central tenets of Marxism and Christianity. They would surely say that they have incorporated certain good elements from Marxism into Christianity to help convert Marxists to Christianity. (It also works the other way around in case they don’t know.) This concept is not that much different than when certain age old pagan festival days were renamed and re-identified as Christian festivals. However, in the past, only a certain tiny popular part of the pagan philosophy was kept and then only after the pagan philosophy was completely overwhelmed by Christianity.

      I have heard clergy say that they want to be inclusive and stay in the mainstream. I believe this is probably the reason that many clergy try to walk the fence. Rev. Graham could have said nothing if he were afraid for his safety. The Pope could have said nothing as well. They may also have a faint hope that Christian lives may be saved. I personally believe they are pandering to liberals since liberals are a major constituency in Christianity and also because liberals have been so successful in demonizing conservatives over the years.

      Today we have the most persistent evil barbaric religion ever invented or re-tooled, now thrusting full force back upon the world. I believe that Mohammed used his religion (Islam) as a military force enhancement to gain territory, control, power, and fame for himself and his ranks, Much the same as Communism and Hitler’s Third Reich tried but fortunately failed to do.

      Pamela, Robert, and Geert are standing firm to remind a sleeping world what Islam is all about while they are threatened by Muslims and cajoled by the Marxist MSM. They are the greatest and my hat goes off to them.

    • Bantheburka says

      May 14, 2015 at 11:25 am

      Sharia is the religion, if they want to be considered a peaceful religion they should start by editing the quran, removing the ridiculous laws of their supremecy, modernizing the passages to modern times and not keep shoveling the hate to their children. It starts by re-education, not blind obedience to barbarism.

      • duh_swami says

        May 14, 2015 at 3:17 pm

        They can’t and they won’t alter the Quran…Those are the perfect words of Allah for all time, according to them…No one has yet figured out how to improve perfection…To even attempt it is both blasphemy and apostasy…Both have the sharia death penalty…

        • Daniel Triplett says

          May 14, 2015 at 5:12 pm

          Exactly.

          Reformation will never happen.

          This leaves just one solution: Islam must end, and it’s our responsibility to extinguish it.

      • chanah says

        May 20, 2015 at 6:08 am

        wrong the cursed quran should be send back to hell from whence if came

  3. Georg says

    May 14, 2015 at 12:46 am

    Many pundits critical of the rally in Garland basically make the case that this isn’t in the spirit of free speech which the constitution seeks to protect. That assessment could hardly be more wrong or disingenuous. Free speech laws, as must be pointed out ad nauseam, are most necessary when voicing unpopular opinion, and many feel more specifically, when speaking truth to power. Perhaps the most basic right the first amendment sought to codify was the right to offend those in power, to be critical of political leaders who would otherwise have to means to silence dissenters. With Garland and criticism of Islam we have people voicing an unpopular opinion about an ideology which threatens to silence dissenters with violence. That could hardly be closer in spirit to an instance where protection of free speech is robustly protected by the first amendment. The first amendment is the USA’s bulwark against draconian fascism, and if Islamism isn’t an instance of draconian fascism the first amendment so ingeniously protects us from, nothing else on our shores is.

    • Tequila not Taqiyya says

      May 14, 2015 at 3:17 am

      “With Garland and criticism of Islam we have people voicing an unpopular opinion about an ideology which threatens to silence dissenters with violence.”

      Is it just me or is it becoming more popular by the day? Yes gallons of ink have been spilled by attackers of Pam, Robert, Geert and free-speech, but if the article has a comment section, invariably it is dominated by those supporting free-speech and Pam. Even the Huffington Post (the most egregious anti-free-speech, pro islamist-agenda site) comment sections on relevant articles are split about 50/50 between pro-free-speech and pro-jahadi commenters. It seems slightly encouraging.

      • Georg says

        May 14, 2015 at 5:17 am

        Thank you for making that important distinction. You are exactly right about those defending free speech in comments representing a strong majority. “Unpopular” was not the appropriate descriptor. A term like “politically incorrect” comes to mind except that we’re emerging into a new political realm where, fortunately, the political leaders people choose are increasingly, although insufficiently, asserting the people’s will regarding Islam. And this brings us right back to the spirit of the amendment: We are being defended from tyranny. Tyranny from those political leaders denying the will of the people, a sanctimonious media elite who won’t allow the facts about Islam to form a genuine discourse, and Islamic totalitarianism which kills because it cannot argue.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        May 14, 2015 at 7:32 pm

        You wrote – “Even the Huffington Post (the most egregious anti-free-speech, pro islamist-agenda site) comment sections on relevant articles are split about 50/50 between pro-free-speech and pro-jahadi commenters. It seems slightly encouraging.”

        I agree. There’s something going on at ground level.

        I’ve been reading through Comments to various Islam-related stories and op eds online ever since 2006 (which was when I started reading Jerusalem Post online, and reading the comments to stories about jihad attacks on Jews in Israel, etc). And what I’ve noticed is a distinct shift in awareness among the commenters.

        More and more Infidels – Christians, Jews, Hindus and Sikhs, atheists and agnostics – from many different countries *are* waking up. They know – or are steadily finding out – what Islam is really all about, and they *don’t like it*. Back in 2006 even at somewhere like Jerusalem Post very few people used terms like “jihad” or “dhimmi” or framed the Arab Muslim (and other-Muslim) assault upon Israel as a jihad. Now they do it all the time.

        The work of people lilke Spencer and Bat Yeor and Bill Warner *is* percolating into people’s consciousness at ground level.

        One sees in the Comments to news reports and op eds/ articles in assorted outlets of all political stripes the liars and the dhimmis and the Muslims in masks (or openly declared) and the wilfully deceived or just plain old uninformed still peddling the usual nonsense and lies…but these days they’re not being allowed to get away with it as much as they were, say, ten years ago; someone will always pop up and challenge them and slap them down with hard cold facts.

        We – all of us, each where we are, wherever we are, face to face with people in our lives and also in those parts of cyberspace we regularly frequent – just have to keep at it, keep on telling the truth, raising the alarm.

        The real challenge is to work out how to make our fellow Infidels – the ones who are still complacently uninformed – *curious*.

        • Georg says

          May 15, 2015 at 4:43 pm

          A truly fantastic post. You all could hardly be more right. I think the only reason I didn’t notice/articulate it is because it’s still relatively new and we’re so used to speaking the facts in the face of belligerent refusal that we didn’t expect the sea change.

          You are all doing your part.

    • Nimrod says

      May 14, 2015 at 7:41 pm

      The confusion over the purpose of free speech comes from the fact that Marxists have tried to redefine free speech to mean Marxist speech in the same way that they’ve tried to redefine democracy to mean Marxism. For example, a Marxist TV channel is named “Free Speech TV” and has a show called “Democracy Now!” Well, we already have democracy, so it’s pretty obvious that the real intent of that name is “Marxism Now!” I wonder how much time Free Speech TV spent advocating for AFDI’s right to hold the Mohammad art event?

      Typically when I see the term “Free Speech” used excessively it is used by Marxist as a code word for Marxist speech. So when someone else comes along talking about free speech as a reference to something that isn’t Marxist then a bunch of the brainwashed Marxist idiots out there try to claim “that’s not free speech!” Stupid statements like that only make sense if you understand that the person making such statements is actually trying to say “that’s not Marxist speech!”

      You see similar semantic cognitive failures among those who claim that “democracy died!” when, for example, Scott Walker wins the failed recall election. What they’re really trying to say is “Marxism died!” But they’re cognitively incapable of speaking clearly and honestly because they’ve been brainwashed, sort of like North Koreans, into believing that democracy is a synonym for Marxism and neo-Marxism.

      If we didn’t have new-Marxist school teachers and college professors brainwashing young people then this sort of inability to think would be much less of an issue than it actually is.

  4. Theodoric says

    May 14, 2015 at 1:07 am

    “Prophet” Muhammad’s Shariamonster, also known as “Islam,” wants to decapitate our freedom of speech.

    Say “NO” To Muhammad’s Shariamonster, and say “NO” to Islam!

    https://drawthevileprophet.wordpress.com/2015/05/11/say-no-to-muhammad-s-shariamonster/

  5. Champ says

    May 14, 2015 at 2:52 am

    The silver lining amid all this controversy is that two evildoers are now ..dead! Two would-be jihadists have instead received swift justice — so good riddance to bad rubbish. And Texas, you Rock!

    • Tequila Not Taqiyya says

      May 14, 2015 at 3:41 am

      Yes that silver-lining can not be underestimated. The more contests we have, and I think we should have as many as possible, the more murderous Mohammed-emulators we will flush out. And the good thing is that they are time-limited events and thus it is not that expensive to have a fortress of guns waiting for them. The problem with Charlie Hebdo situation is that they had to have constant security and thus it was not very robust and you didn’t know when the Islam-crazed-animals would strike. But in these Mohammed Art Exhibits and Contest situations, you know exactly when they are coming and our heroic Chris Kyle types can enjoy some target-practice while giving a gift to humanity by exterminating these Islam-crazed-primordial-scum.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        May 14, 2015 at 7:45 pm

        Yep. I think this particular contest should be *toured* to every State in the USA.

        And toured internationally – Geert Wilders wants to bring it to the Netherlands; to the Parliament, no less. Dutch Special Forces could have a lot of fun staking out the venue…It would be fantastic if it could come to Australia. The Danish Free Press Society could host it in Denmark.

        Other ideas? – One-day or two-day film festivals of “Islamically-Banned Films”. Show Fitna and Submission on the big screen, in a well-fortified cinema; Geert could introduce *his* little film and explain why he made it and how he made it; and Ayaan Hirsi Ali could be invited to speak and introduce “Submission” and talk about her friend, the late Theo Van Gogh, and how and why she and he made the film and what they were hoping to achieve. As a comedy “short” one could have “Innocence of Muslims” – which is a very, very bad film in terms of its production values – but with Mr Spencer to explain how all the actual incidents portrayed are straight out of the Sunnah (that is, unlike things like Life of Brian, the film-makers didn’t have to make anything up). “American Sniper”. “Honour diaries”. “Not Without My Daughter”. The film about how the Canadians helped rescue Americans at the time of the Iranian attack on the American embassy in Iran – I forget the name, but I know the Iranians tried to threaten Canada into banning it or suppressing it. Basically, make a list of “films that some – or very many – Muslims have claimed are offensive to them and have attacked or tried to suppress in some way” and make the “top ten”- the ones that copped *the* most threats/ attacks actual or attempted/ riots, etc – the playlist for the festival.

        • Dag says

          May 14, 2015 at 10:32 pm

          I published an illustrated life story of Mohammed. Please pass the link to anyone you think might be offended. Free speech is bullshit if you don’t practice it.

          http://www.amazon.com/Snootom-D-W-Walker/dp/0987761587

        • LeeZee says

          May 26, 2015 at 10:50 pm

          Please, please follow through on this. The “coup de grace” would be to have it at the
          Gene Siskel Theatre in Chicago. It would provide a lovely balance to their Palestinian Film Festival.

    • Angemon says

      May 14, 2015 at 7:30 am

      Yup. Those two won’t be raiding any Kosher markets ever.

      • Darren says

        May 14, 2015 at 12:47 pm

        The cop should be cameo on The Walking Dead. He might even outshine Rick Grimes as being the best zombie hunter. I see a great merchandizing idea use the proceeds to donate to some wounded veterans fund or something.

        • Darren says

          May 14, 2015 at 12:48 pm

          Get a cameo on The Walking Dead I mean.

  6. Michael Copeland says

    May 14, 2015 at 4:46 am

    Wilders’s short film, “Fitna”, showed images of jihad attacks, like WTC, with quotations from the Koran exhorting such action. The muslim world put on a show of great protest, citing their injured feelings and so on. Media lapped it up, accusing him of being “controversial” and a “hate-monger”.
    Recently Islamic State produced a film showing images of jihad attacks with quotations from the Koran exhorting such action. No protests from the muslim world.
    Double standards, anyone?
    What this reveals, of course, is that the “injured feelings” line is a scam. Look at all those “Not In My Name” marches by muslims protesting against Islamic State. That’s right: there aren’t any.
    “Hurt feelings” are a decoy: the issue is control.

  7. Mark says

    May 14, 2015 at 10:09 am

    https://youtu.be/o_qYcJ-GSZc

    • Darren says

      May 14, 2015 at 12:52 pm

      Why do you keep spamming that? It makes no sense for the Vatican to create Islam. How many formerly Christian lands are now muslim? If you want to create a Dr. Evil type plan for world conquest, losing territory seems like a p*ss poor way to accomplish your goal. Then again I’m sure you are also convinced of the vast conspiracy involving The Reptilian Rabbi’s from Remulak bent on intergalactic conquest. Actually I have uncovered shocking evidence showing the Reptilian Rabbi’s from Remulak in action. Riley Martin is correct they are clearly reptilian!

      • Darren says

        May 14, 2015 at 12:54 pm

        Also it helps if you put on special gun glasses to help see them.

  8. rev g says

    May 14, 2015 at 11:53 am

    When Jesus said those words, he was quoting a cruel king’s words, while relating a parable involving that king.
    One can only conclude from your statement that either you are making statements about subject matter that you do not comprehend, or that you are purposefully a5empting to mislead. Since I am familiar with other deceitful Islamic apologists using the same verse in their deception, that is the likely conclusion.
    In accordance with you religion and your satanic allah, you have done well. In the eyes of Jesus and God the Father, not so much.

  9. RalphB says

    May 14, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    Newcomb writes, “Free speech rights are found in those countries rooted in Judeo-Christian tradition. They are not found in those places built on other worldviews.”

    Putting it mildly, this is “spin” and more accurately it is an attempt to rewrite history so as to give credit for the ideals of free expression where, in fact, blame is due, namely to religion. Also it is false on the face of it because the defense of freedom of speech not only was found, but originated in a non-Judeo-Christian tradition: ancient Greece. The Greeks had a word for it, isegoria and the creative explosion of artistic and philosophical excellence in ancient Greece can be attributed in large part to the cultural strength of the isegoria ideal. The historical evidence to prove this is so vast that one is at a loss to find a pace to start, but consider the Iliad where the soldier Thersites repeatedly makes vicious verbal attacks on the Greek officers and finally, when Odysseus hears him revile the king in command, Agamemnon, he merely threatens to lash him and send him back to the ships if he continues, and finally strikes him on the back with his staff, bringing a tear to his eye. Thats’s it — Thersites remains in the brigade. This in wartime!

    The execution of Socrates is the only known instance of an ancient Athenian executed for his speech, and even that would not have happened if he had copped a plea, so to speak, which he refused to do. Just read the Greek comedies to discover the near perfect freedom of speech they took for granted. Religious liberty was not so well protected early on but by Hellenistic times there were hundreds of distinct cults left unmolested. Not quite the case among the Jews of that age though, many of whom had a problem with Jesus, for example — and what do you think happened to Roman freedom of thought after the ascendency of Christianity?

    For 12-14 hundred years or so until the rebirth of the ancient Greek ideals of liberty, your Judeo-Christian tradition was hardly distinguishable from Islam today with respect to defending freedom of speech and religion (but not with respect to many other values, of course). It was the anti-clerical and largely deist — not Judeo-Christian — thinkers of the Enlightenment who returned the ideals of liberty to the West, eventually wiping away millennia of despotism and slavery.

    Subsequently Jews and Christian’s incorporated Enlightenment thinking into their own interpretations of the Judeo-Christian tradition, and that is worthy of our praise and gratitude. But don’t take credit for creating that which you merely adopted later, after centuries of being part of the problem instead of the solution.

    • Western Canadian says

      May 14, 2015 at 3:38 pm

      Proof that a little learning or knowledge is a dangerous thing…… Anyone who can state that AT ANY TIME IN HISTORY, the J/C tradition was ‘hardly distinguishable’ from islam, says all we need to know about your ignorance, as well as self-righteous stupidity…..

      Oh, by way, Greek ‘free speech’ was NOT a universal right….

      • RalphB says

        May 14, 2015 at 6:32 pm

        Stay cool, Western Canadian, and reread what I wrote: “hardly distinguishable from Islam today with respect to defending freedom of speech and religion (but not with respect to many other values, of course).” You see, it’s not very polite to set up a straw man and beat the stuffing out of the poor thing, attacking its “ignorance” and “self righteous stupidity,.” when I, a flesh-and-blood human being am here to answer your questions, should you have any, preferably before you do to me what you did to it.

        That part you missed about those “many other values” — that was the part about everything you know and love about the Judeo-Christian tradition. Of course if the part you love about that tradition was the part where Christians burned books, heretics, and witches, then I was at least partially mistaken about the praise and gratitude due to post-Enlightenment Judeo-Christians, but then I think you would be an extreme statistical outlier. Someday we will praise post-Enlightenment Muslims, but we don’t really find them yet, since the enlightened ones just leave Islam behind.

        But I suspect you hate those book, heretic, and witch burners as much as I do, even if they were Christians and even if it pains you to see them compared to today’s Islamic equivalent. I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings but I have to call it as I see it. I would be happy to learn of any significant or lasting examples of Christian tolerance of, e.g., anti-Christian and other offensive speech prior to the reintroduction of Aristotelian and other pagan thought in the West, because I can be persuaded to change my opinion when presented with some actual evidence. I’m really not too self-righteous for that. Try me.

  10. duh_swami says

    May 14, 2015 at 3:30 pm

    I got a silent free speech message for cowards and traitors who mistakenly call themselves Americans…it’s called, ‘The Middle Finger Salute’…

  11. rev g says

    May 14, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    Whether or not gays can marry has no effect on anyone’s private social/sexual behavior.
    Once again you show the low level of your reasoning ability.

  12. gravenimage says

    May 15, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    Geller, Wilders, Spencer “fighting the West’s battle for freedom
    …………………………..

    *Brilliant*—and brave—stuff from Jerry Newcombe.

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