Time for Obama to press the Israelis to make more concessions to the Islamic jihadists.
“Hamas paves road near Gaza border ‘to attack Zionists,’” Times of Israel, May 30, 2015:
Hamas is paving a new road near the Israeli border with the northern Gaza Strip which it says will be used to attack Israel in future conflict.
In recent days heavy construction equipment has been operating on the Palestinian side of the border, several hundred meters from the security fence. Construction work is taking place across from the Israeli community of Nahal Oz.
Former Hamas Interior Minister Fathi Hammad said Saturday the road was intended “to create for ourselves convenient opportunities to attack the Zionist enemy.”
Israel security officials told the Ynet News website they were monitoring the road’s construction but said it did not seem to pose a security threat at this point.
Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon on Wednesday warned Hamas to rein in any attempts by Gaza terror groups to attack Israel, or “pay a heavy price,” after a rocket launched from Gaza hit near the town of Gan Yavne, outside Ashdod, causing neither casualties nor damage.
Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh dismissed the threat, asserting that an escalation of violence would ultimately hurt the Jewish state more than the residents of the Palestinian enclave.
Meanwhile, Hamas arrested three members of the Islamic Jihad suspected of involvement in the attack, according to the Haaretz daily.
“The enemy’s threats do not scare the Gaza Strip and do not scare the children of Gaza,” Haniyeh said, according to the Walla news site. “Gaza is able to build deterrence. A million people (across the border) panicked over one rocket. I believe they live under terror, rather than (the people of) Gaza.”
Israeli Air Force jets responded to Wednesday’s attack by bombing four terror targets in Gaza. The army said the rocket was fired by Islamic Jihad activists due to an internal dispute in the organization.
The projectile — a Grad missile — was located shortly after sirens sounded in the Lachish region and Ashdod.
“Israel has no intention of ignoring attacks on its citizens,” Ya’alon said in a statement. “We will not abide any threat on the residents of the south. If it isn’t quiet in Israel, the Gaza Strip will pay a heavy price.”…
Angemon says
Let me try to guess what will happen: Israel will tighten security in the area and the UN will issue another resolution condemning Israel’s actions and telling, in great detail, how the tightening of security is impeding the negotiations for peace in the region.
Vintages says
Come on! Are you serious! I can’t see the UN doing that!! (sarc)
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Angemon,
Yes, that is likely, and it is likely Hamas will continue rocket launches and infiltration attacks into Israel. Then Israel will probably attack, invade Gaza, wipe out some more weapons and tunnels, then leave.
When Israel invades again Obama will likely make speeches blaming Hamas for the rocket attacks which he will use as public justification for the Israeli attacks like he did the last time. Then Obama will continue to send aid to Israel, continue to send weapons to Israel, and continue to send the Army Corps of Engineers to Egypt to assist in neutralizing Hamas tunnels with steel pilings and ground penetrating radar.
Likud, in all this, will be strengthened and will continue with its goal of stealing all land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river. As long as Hamas continues to attack Likud will continue to be elected and America will support Israel and Israel will continue to steal what they call Judea and Samaria.
Hamas truly is a suicidal death cult. The only hope for Palestine is to make peace, recognize Israel, and move for a 2 state solution. But, they seem to be genetically incapable of doing anything other than attacking Jews and hoping to die in the process, as Allah so clearly ordained for them as their guarantee of paradise.
duh_swami says
The only hope for Palestine is to make peace, recognize Israel, and move for a 2 state solution.
Three little things that are not going to happen.
Western Canadian says
“Likud, in all this, will be strengthened and will continue with its goal of stealing all land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river. As long as Hamas continues to attack Likud will continue to be elected and America will support Israel and Israel will continue to steal what they call Judea and Samaria.”
Proof you are an idiot and a troll.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Western Canadian ,
Well, “you are an idiot and a troll” is a rather unspecific ad hominem, I mean, I usually get “your are an idiot and a troll because of X”
Is it that you don’t think Likud intends to steal all the land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river?
https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Politics/LikudPlat1977.html
“between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”
Maybe you don’t think kicking Arab residents off their land is stealing?
You don’t think Hamas attacks strengthen Likud?
Help an idiot troll out here, woodgya?
Western Canadian says
You very obviously do need help, and a description is not ad hominum if it is accurate, which it is in your case.
“Hi Western Canadian ,
Well, “you are an idiot and a troll” is a rather unspecific ad hominem, I mean, I usually get “your are an idiot and a troll because of X””
The reference you require to acknowledge your troll and idiot status, was above the accurate description. Amazing how you missed it….
As for your referring to a page that does NOT support you, seeming to think it does or expecting that no one else is familiar with the subject…… Again, you live down to my accurate description.
Your drive by smear of the Liku in no way references stealing anyone’s land, something that the Jews (you might prefer the joooos) have been extremely scrupulous about…. contrary to what Jew haters continually and falsely claim. If you had actually read the page you foolishly linked to, you would have found the following section:
“The Likud government will call on the younger generation in Israel and the dispersions to settle and help every group and individual in the task of inhabiting and cultivating the wasteland, while taking care not to dispossess anyone”
Unless of course you do not understand what the phrase “Israeli sovereignty” actually means….. It means about the same as it does within current Israeli borders, where Jews Arabs, Christians and others live as equals….
Stardusty Psyche says
Western Canadian,
Hmmm..Israeli rule…let’s see, how about Israeli sovereignty over Canada? How would you like them apples?
sov·er·eign·ty
ˈsäv(ə)rən(t)ē/
noun sovereignty
supreme power or authority.
synonyms: jurisdiction, rule, supremacy, dominion, power…
There were already people living in the West Bank before the Israeli Jews started invading and stealing land, and claiming “sovereignty” over all land… “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.”
Clearly, Likud was founded on ruling all land between the Sea and the Jordan.
Here’s a fun idea, how about Israel declare sovereignty for the land between the Atlantic and the Pacific?, But only North of the Great Lakes please, because we folks down South of you kinda like our sovereignty to reside in the United States of America, not Israel, but you Canadians can give up your sovereignty to Israel if you think that is such a great idea.
The present inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza have no such desire. It’s a little thing called self determination, which of course means nothing to the Israelis of Likud when it comes to the present inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza.
BTW “the wasteland” is propaganda and “taking care not to dispossess anyone” would be laughable if it were not such an ongoing human rights disaster perpetrated by zionists . Arabs have been displaced. If you don’t see that you need some new glasses as your present pair are apparently rose colored.
As for “you might prefer the joooos” I have no idea where that comes from. Would you prefer “towel head” or any other racial slur, simply because you are strongly against Islamic doctrine and those who act upon it?
Western Canadian says
Again, your status as a troll and an idiot are both secure.
“Western Canadian,
Hmmm..Israeli rule…let’s see, how about Israeli sovereignty over Canada? How would you like them apples?
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If they had any prior claim to the land, which they don’t, Canada would be accommodating, not murderous.
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sov·er·eign·ty
ˈsäv(ə)rən(t)ē/
noun sovereignty
supreme power or authority.
synonyms: jurisdiction, rule, supremacy, dominion, power…
There were already people living in the West Bank before the Israeli Jews started invading and stealing land, and claiming “sovereignty” over all land… “between the Sea and the Jordan there will only be Israeli sovereignty.””
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And the Jews had been there before them. So in your mockery of a mind, Jews do NOT have claim due to prior occupancy, but Arabs do. No, you are not an anti-Jewish bigot, not at all…. And your claims of ‘invading and stealing’ are vicious slanders. You may think you’ve returned to the storm front site, but you missed it…..
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Clearly, Likud was founded on ruling all land between the Sea and the Jordan.
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And other peoples have a right to claim due to prior occupancy, but the Jews, in your mind, do not. And the other peoples living in Israel, have better lives and more freedom than any living outside Israel…. The Jews are the only people in the middle east who can make that claim.
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Here’s a fun idea, how about Israel declare sovereignty for the land between the Atlantic and the Pacific?, But only North of the Great Lakes please, because we folks down South of you kinda like our sovereignty to reside in the United States of America, not Israel, but you Canadians can give up your sovereignty to Israel if you think that is such a great idea.
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Even for a troll, simple minded. Israel and the Jews are making no claim here, as they have no claim here. Pity you lack the active brain cells to notice a difference in the two situations.
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The present inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza have no such desire. It’s a little thing called self determination, which of course means nothing to the Israelis of Likud when it comes to the present inhabitants of the West Bank and Gaza.
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Except the Zionists, who you seem to have ill regard for, purchase land if they occupy it and the current owner wants to sell….. otherwise, if non-violent, left alone.
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BTW “the wasteland” is propaganda and “taking care not to dispossess anyone” would be laughable if it were not such an ongoing human rights disaster perpetrated by zionists . Arabs have been displaced. If you don’t see that you need some new glasses as your present pair are apparently rose colored.
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Except the wasteland is not propaganda, Arabs and Jews were both displaced with the first attempt to exterminate Israel and her people, the Jews took in the homeless, the Arabs did not. Your glasses are the ones to need work…. you are blind as a bat, and incapable of making their charming noises.
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As for “you might prefer the joooos” I have no idea where that comes from. Would you prefer “towel head” or any other racial slur, simply because you are strongly against Islamic doctrine and those who act upon it?
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It is the term used by those who have given you your ‘information” about those you have so much baseless contempt for. And your laughable reference to me wanting a racial slur….. You really cannot think clearly, can you…….. Pathetic.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Western Canadian,
“So in your mockery of a mind, Jews do NOT have claim due to prior occupancy, but Arabs do. No, you are not an anti-Jewish bigot, not at all…. And your claims of ‘invading and stealing’ are vicious slanders.”
Ok, so let’s apply the principle of sovereignty for those who are decedents of prior occupants. Looks like just about everybody in the world is gonna have to move or accept new overlords!
But let’s narrow this a bit. By your reasoning, all the native tribes living in Canada and the USA should have sovereignty by right of prior occupancy…move over folks!
Hey, maybe we could genetically identify some people with Canaanite DNA and give them sovereignty over Israel by right of prior occupancy. That works for you, doesn’t it?
The truth is that Canaan/Israel/Palestine/Trans Jordan has been a crossroads of shifting conquests and occupations for over 3 millennia, and it simply is not possible to rewind all that history.
We do have the relatively recent events of British rule, post WWII UN partition, the birth of the modern state of Israel, several wars perhaps most notable in terms of border 1967, and the ceaseless incursions, invasions, thefts, and settlements by Israel since 1967.
Here is a detailed map of how Likud has already largely succeeded in stealing the whole of what they call Judea and Samaria.
https://www.ochaopt.org/documents/westbank_2014_final.pdf
The techniques of Israeli land theft include criss crossing Palestinian land with Israeli roads that cannot be used and sometimes cannot be crossed by Palestinians, creating a scattered set of apartheid Bantustans and Israeli police state travel restrictions within Palestine.
The Israelis steal land using hilltop settlements, guarded enclave settlements withing Palestinian residential areas, Israeli nature preserves, Israeli archeological site designations, wall buffer zones, Israeli military bases, Israeli military buffer zone, Israeli firing zone and probably a few more tricks of the land grab trade I have left out.
To be a slander a statement must be untrue. Israeli actions in the West Bank are nothing less than an invasion and land theft campaign that satisfies at this time about half of Likud’s founding goal of ruling it all.
Western Canadian says
Your love of straw men is only exceeded by your hatred of Israel… You use prior occupancy as a justification for those you approve of (except for their nasty hatred of Jews, of course!! /sarc off), but for no one else. Your ignorance of North American First Peoples is also amusing….. And, hey just LOVED your answers to VRWC member77 posted below?? Oh, right, you didn’t manage to answer them…… so much for your rants about ‘Palestine’ and it’s people…
You repeat every smear made against Israel, and think it makes you clever…. Typical troll and idiot.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Western Canadian,
Present occupancy, not prior occupancy.
Israel is stealing land from the people who presently live in what is variously called Judea/Samaria/Palestine/West Bank.
“Your ignorance of North American First Peoples is also amusing”
Native American tribes were violently pushed off their land. If we apply your principle of sovereignty by right of prior occupancy then their descendants should have sovereignty over Canada and the USA.
I notice you did not offer any specifics of my supposed “ignorance” on this subject.
Jack Diamond says
“steal what they call Judea and Samaria” the lands having only been called that for over three millennium, from Biblical times, signifying their Jewishness. Even the British and Ottoman records called them that up until this mid-century. Should everyone now go along and call them the “west bank” –a designation dating back a few decades intended to erase the Jewishness of Judea and Samaria? If Hamas is a suicidal death cult what is the PA with maps that recognize no Israel and who envision the same from the river to the sea endgame?
Attacking Jews and hoping to die in the process is not a Hamas-thing, it is an Islam-thing.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Jack Diamond,
Thanks for bringing up additional facts. Indeed, the PA is not much different than Hamas. Also, you are quite correct about Islam generally. “Attacking Jews and hoping to die in the process” is not original to Hamas, they simply reprinted it from the Islamic texts and are acting it out under their own banner.
Indeed, everybody seems to have the same end game in mind, steal all the land presently in the possession of the other side.
Not everybody calls it Judea and Samaria. Most importantly, the people who are having their land stolen out from under them do not call it Judea and Samaria.
Just because Hamas is wrong doesn’t make Likud right, at least not by any postulates of logic I accept.
Angemon says
Stardusty Psyche posted:
“Likud, in all this, will be strengthened and will continue with its goal of stealing all land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river.”
As I suspected: you’re not to be taken seriously.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Angemon,
Well, you are not any more specific than Western Canadian…
So, I will simply refer you to my responses to Western Canadian and Jack Diamond.
Angemon says
Stardusty Psyche posted:
“Hi Angemon,
Well, you are not any more specific than Western Canadian…”
That’s odd, I thought I was being perfectly clear. I suspected you were not to be taken seriously and your comment about Likud wanting to steal all the land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river proved my suspicions.
“So, I will simply refer you to my responses to Western Canadian and Jack Diamond.”
You mean, the ones where you can’t make a case for what you stated – that Likud wants to steal all the land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river?
VRWC member77 says
@Stardusty,
There are people who comment on this site who have much more knowledge regarding Israel’s conflict with “Palestine” than I do. I would however like to know if you could answer any of these questions:
Palestine
1- When was Palestine founded and by whom?
2- What were its borders?
3- What was its capital?
4- What were its major cities?
5- What constituted the basis of its economy?
6- What was its form of government?
7- Can you name at least one Palestinian leader before Arafat?
8- Was Palestine ever recognized by a country whose existence, at that time or now, leaves no room for interpretation?
9- What was the language of the country of Palestine ?
10- What was the prevalent religion of the country of Palestine ?
11- What was the name of its currency? Choose any date in history and tell what was the approximate exchange rate of the Palestinian monetary unit against the US dollar, German mark, GB pound, Japanese yen, or Chinese yuan on that date
gravenimage says
“Stardusty Psyche” positing the idea that Obama is going out of his way to support not just Israel but specifically Likud shows just how absurd this troll is—no American president has done less to support our staunch ally Israel than has Obama; not even the egregious Jimmy Carter. Moreover, his characterizing Israel’s not wanting Hamas to murder her people as “stealing all land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river” is simply grotesque.
Moreover, the idea that Israel has no more claim to her land than she would to Canada shows just how ahisotrical his “argument” is.
This is, in fact, quite common among antisemites—the idea that Israel being situated in the Levant is completely arbitrary, rather than its being the homeland of Jews for over three thousand years.
More:
Indeed, everybody seems to have the same end game in mind, steal all the land presently in the possession of the other side.
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“Stardusty Psych” showed up here a few days ago positing false moral equivalence between Judaism and Christianity on the one hand and Islam on the other—claiming that all three faiths presented a threat to vulnerable young girls (even though this was specifcally a story about Muslims raping Christian and Yezidi girls, and sanctioning it on texts of the Qur’an)—and now we see more of the same.
He is here lumping in democratic Israel, which gives all of her citizens equal rights regardless of religious belief with Jihadists, whose stated intention is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people. *Ugh*.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi gravenimage,
““Stardusty Psyche” positing the idea that Obama is going out of his way to support not just Israel but specifically Likud shows just how absurd this troll is”
Straw man, I never said that. The simple fact is that Obama, like every president has, continues to send aid and weapons to Israel. He also publicly supported Israel’s latest invasion of Gaza. .
“his characterizing Israel’s not wanting Hamas to murder her people as “stealing all land between the Mediterranean and the Jordan river” is simply grotesque.”
Conflation. Likud has the founding principle of stealing all land from the Sea to the Jordan. Israel is actively engaged in that process and has already stolen about half of the West Bank.
“claiming that all three faiths presented a threat to vulnerable young girls”
Straw man. Moses was indeed a huge threat to vulnerable young girls but that was 3400 years ago and Jews have just kind of let that instruction become a dead letter. Christ never suggested any such thing. Muhammad specifically instructed the enslavement, rape, and impregnation of pagan women of any age or marital status…an instruction fundamentalist Muslims persist in to this day in large numbers.
You kinda have problems with specifics, dontchya?
“He is here lumping in democratic Israel, which gives all of her citizens equal rights regardless of religious belief with Jihadists, whose stated intention is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of the Jewish people. *Ugh*.”
Straw man. Israel gives its citizens equal rights, but the non-citizens it keeps under police state military occupation live in a condition of abject denial of even basic human rights.
Indeed, fundamentalist Muslims want to kill all Jews, in addition to stealing all the land. Likud just wants to steal all the land, and kill only as many Muslims as required to accomplish the theft.
Likud and Hamas are the same in terms of territorial ambitions.
Likud and Hamas both posses genocidal holy scriptures as justification
Hamas still follows those scriptures but Likud has modernized its practical techniques to minimize its homicidal acts in its thievery.
Huck Folder says
The road to hell (from hell?) is paved with ‘good’ intentions – and stardust.
And doesn’t a paved road OUT of Gaza also run INTO Gaza?
Stardusty Psyche says
Heyyy Huck
Good to hear from you and anybody who does not agree is Nucking Futz:-)
Joseph says
“Israel has no intention of ignoring attacks on its citizens,” Ya’alon said in a statement. “We will not abide any threat on the residents of the south. If it isn’t quiet in Israel, the Gaza Strip will pay a heavy price.”…
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GO GET EM ISRAEL ! !
I STAND WITH ISRAEL ! !
Champ says
GO GET EM ISRAEL ! !
I STAND WITH ISRAEL ! !
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✡ HEAR, HEAR!! ✡
Judi says
DITTO!
spot on says
Champ,
YES, 100% YES!
gravenimage says
✡ Am Yisrael Chai! ✡
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Paving the road to perdition, literally. I wonder what percentage of this infrastructure project is paid for by the U.S. taxpayer.
spot on says
Alarmed,
All that foreign aid money for Hamas with Europe and IMF participating has a such fuzzy route with so many pockets to fill and and some of it probably built this road.
duh_swami says
If the road becomes a threat, Israel can destroy it in short order.
I believe they live under terror, rather than (the people of) Gaza.”
That’s why you are a lousy neighbor and must go…The sooner the better.
somehistory says
The terrorists always use the construction materials given them by Israel… to rebuild the homes and businesses mostly destroyed by hamas…to build tunnels and now roads in order to continue to carry on their battle to annihilate the Jews.
And Israel gets the blame for the battles. Because satan the devil wants his beast to win at all costs.
(Ezekiel 38 and 39).
Lucretius says
“The enemy’s threats do not scare the Gaza Strip and do not scare the children of Gaza,” Haniyeh said, according to the Walla news site. “Gaza is able to build deterrence. A million people (across the border) panicked over one rocket. I believe they live under terror, rather than (the people of) Gaza.”
Typical Islamic bluster. By their scriptures, the Jews are supposed to be the sort of people who live in submissive terror when “Muhammad’s army returns.” But time and again, they show a mettle not according to the script, and achieve far beyond their paltry enemy. And it grinds their teeth.
Die in your envy and rage, Muslim. I see your blackened heart.
JamesonRocks says
I’m sure it’s all a misunderstanding… Hamas just needed practice paving roads as part of their infrastructure improvement efforts. Probably time to send Bishop 90 Proof from Massachusetts over to engage in some dialogue. Perhaps he could bring a gross of those “COEXIST” bumper stickers with him.
Judi says
So, other than building terror tunnels, this is what the cement is being used for.
Joseph says
The idiots will probably try to make combat boots or an air-force out of all that extra cement.
epistemology says
A two-state solution is impossible, Hamas doesn’t want it. They only want to destroy Israel. It’s high on their agenda. Priority number one. That’s why they’re paving this road. Israel has to defend itself by all means
Sabri S. says
Great!…paving the way for reinforcements for ISIS…
Those bloodthirsty zionism infidels will be driven back
To eastern Europe where they came from….they have no
Ties to pale stini an areas anyway….truth and islam..5…
Garbage zionism…0…
Angemon says
Sabri S. posted:
“Those bloodthirsty zionism infidels will be driven back
To eastern Europe where they came from….they have no
Ties to pale stini an areas anyway”
Except, you know, all those ties linking Jews with Israel and what is nowadays cynically called “Palestine” dating back to thousands of years before Christ. Biblical texts, archaeological evidence, etc. The people without ties to “Palestine” are the so-called “palestinians”, who are the descendants of the blood-thirsty arab invaders from around the 7th and 8th centuries.
Linde Barrera says
To Angemon- Happy June 1st. You are far more learned than I am about Israel and it’s Middle East neighbors. So here is my question: Is there a “fence” or a “wall” or some demarcation barrier that separates Israel from Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, and Egypt? Seems to me that a structure of this kind would be a good thing for all countries involved. When landowner #1 wants to protect his property from trespassers, hunters, stray pets, he erects a fence. And his fence benefits the adjacent neighbors because landowner #1 won’t allow his pets or hunting friends to go outside his fence. So is this idea feasible for this area of the world? I know the Berlin Wall was erected in 1961 in a short time, but that was for the city. What I dont know for certain is if there was a fence all around East Germany. I believe there was because the Soviet Union didn’t want any East Germans leaving the Russian empire. A little help please? Thank you in advance!
Angemon says
Hi Linde.
I don’t know every inch of the Israeli border, but Israel has raised several fences to protect its citizens – and foreigners as well – from, for example, suicide bombers and “palestinian” snipers. Whenever Israel does that, a chorus of charges of “apartheid” follow from the usual suspects. You are correct – good fences make good neighbours, and Israelis aren’t the only ones building them. For example, the US have several barriers build on their border with Mexico to fight drug trafficking and illegal immigration, India has fences along its borders with Pakistan, and Spain has fences in Ceuta and Melilla to curb illegal immigration and terrorist infiltration. The use of fences on borders is a widespread practice through history, but guess who gets criticized every time they want to build one?
Champ says
Great response, Angemon! And only an ignorant hater ignores the facts: that the Jews were in the land of Israel, first and foremost …
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Fact #1: Jews have been living in Israel continuously for over 3,000 years
The Jewish people have maintained a well-documented, unbroken presence in Israel for well over 3,000 years, beginning in the 2nd millennium B.C.E., continuing under a long series of Jewish kingdoms and foreign rulers, and through to the modern State of Israel. Conquerors, diplomats, pilgrims and visitors throughout the millennia have left an abundance of references to the Jewish communities living there. Israel is filled with archaeological and historical sites, many of which testify to Jewish life over the centuries. Even the Muslim Qur’an refers to the Jewish people as the “Children of Israel”.
The historical Jewish right to a homeland in Palestine was first recognized by the modern international community (and by Great Britain, which had gained control of the region from the Ottoman Empire during World War I) in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and the League of Nations Mandate of 1922. Both of these documents preceded the Nazi Holocaust by decades, thereby disproving more recent (yet widespread) claims according to which Israel’s creation was justified not by thousands of years of Jewish history, but rather only by the Holocaust.
More here: http://arabisraeliconflict.info/arab-israel-facts/fact-1-jewish-history-israel
Linde Barrera says
Hi Champ- To save you some time, Rezali Mehil mentioned you, me and Carolyne in a post where he said our names and that we would like to feel the smooth upper lip of a guy who has a beard. It was in an article from I think 2 days ago, and there were a lot of comments. So I tapped “Reply” but his name didn’t come up in the REPLY TO box. I wrote back that I love to feel the smooth upper lip of a man, but that I liked tongue more. 2 thumbs up for me! Hope you are feeling great. And thank you for your researched response about the land of Israel. There is a lot that a lot doesn’t know.
Western Canadian says
Truth and islam are NEVER on the same side. And thank you for NOT capitalizing islam, it doesn’t deserve the honrour…
Joseph says
@ Sabri S Those bloodthirsty zionism infidels will be driven back
To eastern Europe where they came from.
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Where you born an idiot or did you study VERY hard to become one? ? ?
Personally I think you have a tad too much inbreeding.
What does it feel like to have your mom/sister dad/brother all in one package?
Mohammed(MHABCF) may his ass be camel #ucked is in hell. Remember to say hi to him when you get there.
gravenimage says
The vile Sabri S. wrote:
Great!…paving the way for reinforcements for ISIS…
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Once again, the horrific Sabri S. expresses his adulation for the vicious Islamic State, with their murderous oppression, enslavement, and genocide. Remember, this is what pious Muslims such as himself want to see for *all* of us.
He wants to see democratic Israel replaced with an Islamic state that uses women as sex slaves and beheads journalists and aid workers. *Ugh*.
More:
Those bloodthirsty zionism infidels will be driven back
To eastern Europe where they came from….they have no
Ties to pale stini an areas anyway….
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Yes—Israel is “bloodthirsty” in wanting to prevent Mohmmedans from massacring their people. But this *is* how Muslims see it—their victims should present their throats to the sword. Even passive resistance is considered “aggression”.
And note the usual—the claim that Jews have no ties to Israel at all. This is how Muslims legitimize their desire to destroy that vibrant democratic state. Never mind that the history of the Jews in the Levant goes back three thousand years.
And the truth is that Islam is bent on world conquest, and they don’t generally even bother with such an ahistorical figleaf as this one.
More:
truth and islam..5…
Garbage zionism…0…
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Not really. There is no truth to what Sabri S. says here at all.
And Israel survives—he’d like us to think that Hamas building this road means that the destruction of Israel and genocide of the Jews is a fait accompli—but Israel has not just survived worse than this, but she has *thrived*.
Linde Barrera says
To gravenimage- Thanks for going to the moon and back with your most recent response to Sabri S. I asked a question to him about why can’t the Palestinians build a wall to make a defined border around Israel, like the wall the Russians built around East Germany in 1961. I dont think it would be a burden if Saudi oil paid for it. He never responded, as you might guess. Take care graven, and keep eating those “smart girl” foods so we get more great answers from you.
Rob says
But the good part is that Israel has a reliable negotiating partner in Abbass.
Prinz Eugen says
Yes, many Americans stand with Isreal — but our leader, sultan Barry, is cahoots with iran and islam, and our ever brain-numbed congress is totally lacking in spine. Given a choice, the GOP leaders would adopt sharia, too — after all, they want to “get along.” Impeachment is sorely needed, but 98% of the GOP is licking sultan Barry’s ass.