They’d almost have you thinking that all this had something to do with Islam. They’d almost have you thinking that they’re aware that the seizure of Infidel girls and their use as sex slaves is sanctioned in the Qur’an.
According to Islamic law, Muslim men can take “captives of the right hand” (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 33:50). The Qur’an says: “O Prophet! Lo! We have made lawful unto thee thy wives unto whom thou hast paid their dowries, and those whom thy right hand possesseth of those whom Allah hath given thee as spoils of war” (33:50). 4:3 and 4:24 extend this privilege to Muslim men in general. The Qur’an says that a man may have sex with his wives and with these slave girls: “The believers must (eventually) win through, those who humble themselves in their prayers; who avoid vain talk; who are active in deeds of charity; who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess, for (in their case) they are free from blame.” (Qur’an 23:1-6)
“Family shuns Yezidi teen impregnated by ISIS,” Rudaw, May 27, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Harrowing accounts of the sexual abuse endured by women and girls at the hands of Islamic State fighters are being recorded by a young Swedish-Kurdish activist living in Kurdistan region named Delal Sindy.
Of all the tragic accounts Sindy has encountered, the case of a 17-year-old Kurdish Yezidi girl we’ll call Suzan has drawn the most online interest. A Facebook post about Suzan’s experience has earned over 10,000 shares.
Suzan’s story is more than just a heart-breaking story of cruelty, slavery and sexual abuse. It also underscores the social stigma that follows some of the abused women for the rest of their lives.
Suzan was held captive by an ISIS militant known as Al-Russiyah. He kept several women as sex slaves until he was killed alongside his bodyguards by Peshmerga forces nearby Shingal.
“He lined the three of us up naked every morning. He would then choose who he wanted for the day,” said Suzan, who added that the extremist would smell each of the young women.
After the leader made his pick, the bodyguards would select from the remaining women for themselves.
“They were terrible. They beat me and would come at least two together,” she said.
In fact, Suzan wished to end up with Al-Russiyah because he didn’t hit the women as the others did.
“It was like choosing between death and death,” she said.
Prior to being sold to Al-Russiyah, Suzan was held in a hotel in Mosul called Galaxy. She described a building full of women and girls, all half naked or semi-naked.
“The day me and my 10-year-old sister were sold was the last day I saw my mother. I will never forget when she started crying and pulling her hair when they took us.”
She was later transferred to the ISIS stronghold in Syria, Raqqa, where there she and dozens of other women were examined to determine whether they were virgins.
“The virgins were taken to a room with 30-40 men. They lined us up and pointed who they wanted,” she said.
“I thought I might be lucky, I was not as beautiful as the others”
Soon, however, she was bought by a man from Chechnya who purchased her and two other girls in a matter of 10 minutes.
Suzan gave horrific accounts of daily rapes by the man’s bodyguards.
“They forced me to say things from the Quran during the time they did their actions, and if I didn’t they whipped me.”
On an occasion Suzan resisted, they burned her thigh with boiling water.
“They took us to one of the villages near Shingal. [Al-Russiyah] and his bodyguards were wounded when they fought against Kurdish soldiers. He died immediately and the guards also. That was when we fled.”
Some girls who [sic] ran back to ISIS because they were afraid. As Suzan said, “another girl who tried to escaped [sic] had her legs cut off.”…
Peggy says
No wonder those savages are so protective of their Koran. They use it like porn.
Linde Barrera says
To Peggy- Thank you for your 10:14 pm post. You hit it out of the ballpark with that one. Wish I were as eloquent and concise.
spot on says
Peggy, These barbarian Muslims have been kidnapping very young Christian boys for 1400 years. Some of these boys would be castrated and turned into eunuchs while the Koran was drilled into their heads. Then they were placed in Muslim military training and the eunuchs used for harem supervision. Other young kidnapped Christian boys would be directly immersed into the porn of the Koran for a few years along with extreme military discipline. After that, those once Christian boys are more than willing to kill their relatives in war and the non eunuchs among them fast learn to enjoy Muslim porn sex slave activity. Muslims have developed the forceful conversion of very young Christians to Satan loving Muslims into an art over 1400 years. They also know exactly how to train a 12 year old kuffir girl to be a Muslim sex slave and to accept that position throughout her tortured life, to be sold naked at sex slave markets as Muslims still do today. Unfortunately, there is no record of large numbers of Muslims ever converting to Christianity.
This is so hideous that people do not want to believe this. I personally believe that people cannot bear thinking of these hideous Muslim things and do not want to know. I too do not think of this often. It is not comfortable to even think about. This is why anyone who is aware of Muslim rape gangs training young kuffir girls as sex slaves should be outraged and willing to fight anyone over it.
We read history and get vague impressions about barbarians. We now have them (Muslim barbarians) back before our very eyes, live and in full color.
gravenimage says
And while Christian boys were taken as Janissaries and Harem guards, Christian girls were taken for Harems and for use as sex slaves.
Shane says
Islam is a religion of war and misogyny. Why any woman would willing convert to Islam is beyond me.
Budvarakbar says
It is porn!
nicu says
Muslims visit the most porn pages !
Hypocrites and afraid of women !
I wish they would disappear from this planet !
Even many of their women are hyper aggressive and pervert !
Crusader says
Just “wishing” Muslims disappear from the planet is not enough:
TO DEFEAT ISLAM:
1)Demand the LIBERATION OF MUSLIM WOMEN from muslim male bondage imposed by the Koran ,(k 4:34,K2:223),from forced child marriages,wife beating (k4:34)and from the Burka( K 24:31,K33:59-mobile cloth prisons that banish females from society)!Ban clitorectomies, apply the death penalty for “honor killing”of women(Bukhari2,23,413) and grant muslim women divorce and children custody and support, when they are abused by their muslim husbands !Demand Respect,Equality ,Education , Integration and Human Rights to ALL WOMEN IN in ALL Muslim lands ,which they deserve ,as the women gave birth and nursed all the Humans2)PROTECT THE APOSTATES from Islam,the “BLASPHEMERS” of Islam ,HYPOCRITES and ADULTERERS FROM DEATH ,commanded by the Koran (K 4:83 ,Bukhari 9.84.57,58-52:260) and punish all muslim Countries that implement these barbaric islamic laws!3)DISCREDIT THE KORAN,as a distorted copy of the Old Testament(mainly Deuteronomy,also book of Enoch-on description of Hell-,Βοok of Thomas etc)written in Arabic not by Allah before Eternity (K 85:22k 10:37),as the muslims are taught to believe,but by Muhammad to suit his desires( per wife Aisha) during his lifetime,then after his death ,written down by his scribe Zayd and rearranged arbitrarily in chapters from longer to shorter ones on order by the first Caliph(successor)!The Koran is full of repetitions,ambiguities,lies,contradictions,but the more recent ,longer ~70%violent Medina part, abrogates the earlier, shorter ~30% merciful Mecca part(K 2:106)! It commands violence(K 48:29)and it is totally void of Morality and Love !It accuses Jews and Christians of heresy, of “having strayed from the right path” (K2:79,K3:64-82K90:6,K3:32)deserving death(k2:191,K8:7,k9:5,9:29,9:123)!. It commands the muslims to ritualistically pray five times daily cursing the Infidels (Google: translation of Muslim daily prayers)and never to leave islam by killing the Apostates and those who criticize the Koran or Muhammad (k5:33-34)and never to be friends with Jews(k5:60)Christians,Infidels (k 2:109,3:28,5:51,5:57)for they may tempt them to leave Islam and to terrorize (K8:12)and kill the Infidels(k9:5) ,if they refuse to convert to islam or pay tax = jizya(K 9:29) as dhimmies(semi slaves)!The Koran commands ,that wives must be beaten for disobedience (k 4:34)and that ALL WOMEN are inferior to males (k 4:34,2:223)and are destined to go to Hell(unless their husbands say in the Last Day that they are.. pleased with them!).Women must never tempt men by showing their curves or skin,so the orthodox Muslim women are forced always to hide and wear full body loose clothes like mobile prisons ,the Burkas and Nikabs (K 4:34),when outside their house ,even in the stifling summer heat!The Medina Koran ,which imposes polygyny, misogyny and preaches hate against Jews,Christians,infidels and intolerance and terror against all other Religions ,is incompatible with our Freedoms,Human Rights, Gender Equality,Democracy and Constitution and must be declared a HATE BOOK!4)DENOUNCE MUHAMMAD ,as according to contemporary witnesses in the “Hadith”and ” Sira”,he was a mass murderer,torturer,pedophile( wife Aisha was 9 years old, he was licking the penis of his toddler grandson Hasan per Bukhari witnesses),rapist,liar, plunderer ,slave trader and a terrorist (k4:56). He imposed Islam by the sword ,getting 1/5 of the booty from all raids for himself,and added several verses in the Koran to suit his sexual desires (per wife Aisha). He decapitated the captive ~800 men of the jewish Qurayza tribe ,raped the same night Safiya the wife of the slain jewish chief,enslaved the surviving women and children and exiled the other two jewish tribes and the Christians from Arabia confiscating their property,because they refused to convert to Islam. He ordered jihad for World Conquest, that still continues !.Therefore ,Muhammad ,”The Perfect Man of Islam”(K 33:21,68:4)was a brutal , bloodthirsty and criminal warlord, who deserves no reverence ,but our stern condemnation and revulsion for his crimes .
5-DENOUNCE ORTHODOX ISLAM as a violent ,totalitarian ,misogynistic ,barbaric ,political ideology (~80%)of desert Arab male supremacism , disguised as a religion(~20%)incompatible with our Freedoms, Gender Equality ,Human Rights and Democracy, that fights by jihad and soft jihad to subjugate the entire world !
Ban muslim immigration ,as Japan does and buy no muslim oil to starve global jihad!
Deport orthodox muslims and allow no muslims in the government and military ,as the Koran commands them to subvert them.NPR radio reported in ~2006 that the hired muslim interpreters in Iraq falsified names and data confusing the US Intelligence and many muslim soldiers attacked their fellow servicemen like Hasan Nidal in Fort Hood.
READ in GOOGLE:”THE KORAN”(=recitation,~434 pages long) about what Muhammad claimed angel Gabriel revealed to him to believe and practice. The text is ~30%religious and compassionate (the earlier Μecca part )and ~70%political and violent( the later Medina part) and this abrogates the earlier part according to Muhammad in the Koran( k 2:106,13:39,16:101)! The “HADITH”(=traditions about the terrorizing Sayings ,Customs and Deeds of Muhammad),”SIRA”(=the biography of Muhammad and his murders and raids on caravans). Also,Omar´s Conditions on Dhimmies(=subjugated infidels) about the humiliation and heavy taxation of conquered Infidels(Kafirs) after 700AD and Reliance of the Traveler.
Also read in Google:QUOTING ISLAM,CROSSMUSLIMS,WIKIISLAM(has all the passages of the original Islamic texts ,that command the orthodox muslims to be jihadists,terrorists,assassins,wife beaters,misogynists, liars,crucifiers, decapitators and slaveholders) Apostatesof Islam,politicalislam.com,Dr Bill Warner on islam,”the terrifying brilliance of the islamic memeplex”,Citizen warrior,pedestrianinfidel@yahoo.com,Indoctrinationwatch,Formermuslimsunited.org,inquiryintoislam.com,The religionofpeace.com,jihadwatch.org ( >40 K readers daily),Islamwatch (has a list of~18 pages of all the terrorizing antisemitic and jihadist passages In the koran ,where the more recent~ 340 pages Medina – city of the prophet-terrorizing passages abrogate the older ~ 70 pages long Mecca merciful ones),Act for America, Pamellageller.Com,Atlas shrugs,Raymondibrahim.com,thetruthaboutQuran.com,Radicalislam.org,Frontpagemag.org,faithfreedom.org,Alisina.org( by an exmuslim)Bare naked Islam, Lars Hedegaard on islam,Ann Barnhardt ,Ibn Warraq,Fitna (the video),Obsession -the DVD, “Islam what the west needs to know”-the movie,the third jihad,Wafa Sultan( syrian exmuslim),Formermuslims united,Muslims against Sharia,MEMRI( has translations of jihadist Middle East tv shows)Νοnie Darwish(her father was an Εgyptian muslim terrorist)Gert Wilders(Dutch politician)Richard Dawkins(atheist Biology professor) Zakaria Botros(ex muslim),walid shoebat(ex muslim terrorist)cross Islam,Phyllis Chesler on islam( a jewish feminist ,who escaped from Afghanistan),Newt Gingrich on Islam,Winston Churchill on islam( he wrote that “Islam is the most retrograde force on our planet” in his book ” River war” in 1899)!,Aldous Huxley on Islam,Thomas Paine on Islam,”Mohammed seduced the people by promises of carnal pleasure,” St. Thomas Aquinas wrote ,Maimonides called Muhammad “a madman”,Thomas Jefferson on Islam who read the Koran and he sent the Marines with their necks protected with leather to Tripoli in Libya to fight the barbaric muslim pirates in~1806,Bertrand Russel (atheist)on Islam,Oriana Fallaci ( Italian journalist)on Islam ,FOX NEWS, Juhdi Jasser on Islam ( humanized muslim MD)in USA),Glazov gang videos , Dispatch International,Egyptian president Sisi on Islam 12/28-14 YOU TUBE video ,Bosch Fawstin ,et al.
We must talk about these things daily ,to make them widely known ,with our politicians,policemen, journalists,schools and our friends in the Internet and then we will see millions of muslims,especially the oppressed WOMEN ,will abandon barbaric Islam to join the rest of Humanity and Islam will collapse the way the Soviet Union did in 1989!
somehistory says
Every time there’s a new account of what is happening to these young women and girls, it seems it can’t get worse. And then it does.
Jesus said there would be great tribulation such as has never been experienced by mankind before (Matthew 24:21). If one reads some of the things the ancient people did to others, and now what we are reading of current happenings, it is impossible not to shudder with what must be coming next.
This poor girl…the things that were done and when they become pregnant , are rejected,..it is unspeakable. Surely the great tribulation has begun and will spread throughout the earth.
John says
Yes the tribulation is in full swing and its going to culminate with Turkey trying to recapture Jerusalem.
Come lord Jesus.
Peggy says
Her family knows that she was kidnapped and raped so rejecting her is also evil. I wish I could do something for her but that’s not possible. Who will be there for her now?
nicu says
This is what I don’t get : victims will be punished for being victims – for me Kurdish ( who are Muslims , too ) and the others are no big difference !
gravenimage says
“Suzan” is not Muslim, Nicu—she is ethnically Kurdish Yezidi. But the Yezidis have lived so long by Muslims that they have absorbed many of their sickening “moral” views, such as blaming victims for their own rape.
spot on says
Somehistory, This is all too unbearable. I read the book “Slave Soldiers” and most of Robert’s books over the years. Nothing here is a secret for anyone wanting to know but Muslims are so hideous that many people don’t want to know. Corrupt government officials and MSM see nothing wrong with Muslims. This speaks volumes about these corrupt government officials and MSM people.
Wellington says
The Koran is repulsive. There is zero way to square it with liberty, equality under the law, women’s rights, a Goldern Rule for all, true tolerance, common sense, an enlightened legal system, a musical heritage, fine beer and wine and a disassociation from mind-numbing repetitiveness. It’s a very silly, tedious and profoundly disturbing book. Only fools hold it in esteem. Unfotunately, an exceedingly large number of fools are out there who do. Herein lies the crux of the problem, i.e., sheer numbers.
G. Gardiner says
Fools? I don’t think so. They’re products of indoctrination from an early age. You can teach children to believe any sort of garbage.
That’s why the rest of the Muslim world is strangely silent as the atrocities not only continue but escalate. They’ve been conditioned to believe that the jihadists are going God’s work.
Hard to break through that wall of woo.
Wellington says
I submit that “products of indoctrination” are a major subset of fools. What does it matter the provenance of foolhardiness (except for academic and corrective purposes) as long as one is a fool?
G. Gardiner says
No, I can’t agree. Many of my friends and acquaintances are far from being fools. In fact several possess superior intellect.
Yet some accept without a shred of evidence that the Bible is the word of “God.” For all else they demand evidence, if not proof.
Foolishness? No. Inculcation? Yes.
The important difference of course between my woo-inveigled friends and the Muslim jihadists is that the latter put into deed the crazy directives found in their “holy” book.
Nowadays, Jews and Christians rarely kill anyone found working on the sabbath.
Wellington says
We must then agree to disagree. I also don’t equate acceptance of the Bible with acceptance of the Koran. Though not religious myself, I understand that many people with reason also have faith in an enlightened religion like Christianity or Judaism. I have only reason and without faith one can hardly describe oneself as religious. But being an adult and accepting what’s in the Koran, a truly hateful book which is always prescriptive, unlike the Bible which is often only descriptive, is, ipso facto, evidence of foolishenss, of letting the built-in crap detector one was born with get horribly rusty and in disrepair. And indoctrination from youth into the horrible cult which is Islam hardly exculpates an adult from still being labelled a fool if they continue to accept all the rot Islam preaches.
G. Gardiner says
“…the Koran, a truly hateful book which is always prescriptive, unlike the Bible which is often only descriptive…”
No, can’t agree. I’ve looked at both and both are chock-full of dangerous rubbish. The sooner we grow up as a species and jettison the fairy tales of our paleo-ancestors the better it will be for all — and for vulnerable young women in particular, like those rape victims in the report.
Angemon says
G. Gardiner posted:
“I’ve looked at both and both are chock-full of dangerous rubbish. The sooner we grow up as a species and jettison the fairy tales of our paleo-ancestors the better it will be for all”
This is what happens when someone tries to hammer the square peg of “all religions are the same” through the round hole of “the bible and the quran are different”. You want people to move away from religions? Fine by me. You want to pretend that Christianity and islam teach the same? Then you’ve got some explaining to do because that just doesn’t match with reality.
somehistory says
Wellington,
I firmly believe that one of the reasons islam is still viewed as something legitimate for people to believe in as a system of worship is because so many equate it with Christianity and Judaism. Those ones who say it’s all something that *should have been discarded,* as it’s nothing but *fairy tales.* by everyone years ago, are also a part of the reasons islam is still around and many non-muslims still give it respect as a *religion.*
If other non-religious people, and those who say they are atheist, all showed the same respect for Judaism and Christianity, etc. as you do, and recognized that the Golden Rule, and other teachings from the Bible are beneficial, islam would have a much harder time gaining ground in non-muslim lands.
islam has no redeeming qualities, no virtue, nothing to recommend it, but it is lumped in, even by some here who see islam for what it is, with Judaism and Christianity, as though islam is equal with those two.
gravenimage says
G. Gardiner wrote:
No, can’t agree. I’ve looked at both and both are chock-full of dangerous rubbish. The sooner we grow up as a species and jettison the fairy tales of our paleo-ancestors the better it will be for all — and for vulnerable young women in particular, like those rape victims in the report.
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Oh, good grief—what witless false moral equivalence. The implication that Jews and Christians present the same threat to vulnerable young women as do ravening Muslims is simply false.
Robert Spencer, who runs this site and reported the story above, is a devout Christian. He is not threatening this girl; he is exposing her plight.
One need not necessarily believe that Christianity or Judaism contain any more truth than does Islam to nonetheless understand that the nature of these beliefs, and the moral stance of their followers, could not be more diametrically opposed.
G. Gardiner says
“Oh, good grief—what witless false moral equivalence. The implication that Jews and Christians present the same threat to vulnerable young women as do ravening Muslims is simply false.”
Before you use insulting terms such as “witless” try actually reading my words: “I’ve looked at both and both are chock-full of dangerous rubbish.”
Nothing about “same threat” there.
Goodnight. And do save your ire for the foul rapists.
Wellington says
Just wanted to register my accord with what Angemon, somehistory and gravenimage wrote in response to G. Gardiner’s tu quoque reasoning. The tu quoque fallacy really does have a signficant capacity for leading otherwise intelligent people far astray in the reasoning process. It’s actually quite the cognitive trap and I am surprised at how many people quite willingly and blithely fall into it.
One possible way, I believe, of shaking people out of this fallacy when they engage in it where Islam on the one hand and Christianity and Judaism on the other hand are concerned, is to posit two scenarios. Scenario #1 is where all Christians and Jews wake up tomorrow morning committed Muslims and Scenario #2 is where all Muslims wake up tomorrow morning committed Christians or Jews. In which scenario, praytell, would the world be better off? Of course, this “test” is certainly not a foolproof way of eradicating the terrible tu quoque fallacy, but I think it’s not a bad one and has the capacity to jolt the deficient thinker into a sounder cognitive state.
gravenimage says
G. Gardiner wrote:
Before you use insulting terms such as “witless” try actually reading my words: “I’ve looked at both and both are chock-full of dangerous rubbish.”
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Well, I did read that, and I do consider it quite witless. Engaging in such false moral equivalence certainly isn’t terribly impressive.
More:
Nothing about “same threat” there.
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There is nothing in Christianity or Judaism that presents a threat to vulnerable young girls, nor have Christians or Jews been abusing young girls in the name of their faiths. Implying that Jews and Christians present an intrinsic threat to vulnerable young girls based on their religion—even if you allow yourself some possible wiggle room as to whether that threat is held to be as great as that of Islam—is still false.
More:
Goodnight. And do save your ire for the foul rapists.
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I referred to your false moral equivalence as witless, whereas I regard the rapists and sex slavers in this story as unmitigated evil.
I consider such false moral equivalence as quite dangerous, as it takes the focus off the problem of Islam, and makes it vaguely one of faith. Hence, such attitudes make it more difficult for us to defend against the threat of Islam, and that *is* an issue.
But I in no way consider it as great a threat, and *certainly* not so great a moral failing, as that of Muslims who rape and abuse innocent girls and engage in sex slavery.
In fact, if I *did* take such a stance, then I myself would be guilty of witless false moral equivalence—but this is something I do not engage in.
Whereas you seem to traffic in little else—first the false Tu Quoque regarding Islam and other faiths, and then the calumny that in my taking you to task regarding the above, that I was implying that you were no better than the foul rapists in the story above.
If you are going to oppose the horror of these atrocities—as I presume you intend to do by posting here—perhaps it might behoove you to recalibrate your moral compass so you can be more effective.
Wishing you all the best in this endeavor.
spot on says
G. Gardiner said:
“No, can’t agree. I’ve looked at both and both are chock-full of dangerous rubbish. The sooner we grow up as a species and jettison the fairy tales of our paleo-ancestors the better it will be for all — and for vulnerable young women in particular, like those rape victims in the report.”
With all due respect, it is hard to believe any knowledgeable person would come to your conclusion but I know there are plenty of people who think as you do but usually they never take the time to first study religions before they try to convince others of their ill-founded conclusions about religion in general.
In my opinion, the Golden Rule is the basis for pleasant human interactive behavior. All popular religions which I know adhere to the Golden Rule except Islam. The Old Testament and the New Testament Bible both keep the Golden Rule front and center. Islam not only does not do this but the Koran attempts to justify the opposite point of view. This is why so many people call Islam “evil”. This is also why I call Muslims “barbarians”, “savages”, and sometimes “cannibals”.
The Golden Rule in my opinion is what describes the difference between barbarians and civilized people. To deny religion in general, is to deny the Golden Rule because it in itself is a religion. The absence of religion would in my opinion lead toward the elimination of the Golden Rule and ultimately back to some kind of a barbarian existence.
epistemology says
Hi Wellington, right it’s a number problem. You probably know the fly paradox. “People eat shit, billions of flies can’t be wrong.” It’s the same with Islam.
But this story is so appalling, disgusting and despicable, words fail. I don’t understand it but there are still women who convert to this excess of barbarism.
Anyway all this has got nothing to do with Islam, the religion of peace(TM), They make the girls recite the Koran and it’s got nothing to do with Islam. My only question is how moronic can people get?
Take care my friend
Wellington says
Hello, epistemology. Always good to hear from you, my friend.
You know, the human condition is so admirable at times, examples being ancient Athens’ development of democracy, Michelangelo’s sculptures and Einstein’s extraordinary theories about relativity. By contrast, and sadly though, the human condition manifests execrability at times, examples being the development of Islam, the birth of Marxism and the rise of Nazism.
Wow, talk about a mixed bag, eh? I suppose the trick to staying positive is to concentrate on the best of what mankind has produced and not the worst. Some trick though. It does take a lot of doing lest one becomes pessimistic like (or even, God forbid, cynical). You know, epistemology, I am indeed tempted at times to adopt what I believe Jonathan Swift first observed, to wit, if one expects absolutely nothing from life, then it is impossible to ever be disappointed. Just sayin.’
As always, I hope you’re doing as well as possible in a Western world which seems so determined and suicidally to give the Western world away to those spiritual Nazis who go by the name of “Muslim.” Go figure, eh?
gravenimage says
Good comments, Epistemology and Wellington. Always good to see you posting.
G. Gardiner. says
Good morning.
Before moving on to the pressing work of the day I’ll say a final word or two on this matter. I’ll keep it simple, lest my words be misconstrued, okay?
To me it’s obvious that the Bible and the Koran are similar works of fantasy. Indeed the Koran aped the Bible in so many respects.
It’s clear to me that both were cobbled together by men who had less knowledge and understanding of life and the universe than my 7-year-old daughter.
Both books are awash with divinely dictated genocide and other outrages.
I find it bizarre that grown-up, educated people can, in 2015, take their moral cues from either the Bible or the Koran. Were a bearded chap to suddenly appear in Hyde Park with a “newly discovered” ancient book closely resembling the BIble, he’d be treated as a laughing stock. (Note that many Christians scoff at Joe Smith and his Book of Moroni. And rightly so.)
People believe their “holy book” because their parents and grandparents did. It really is that simple. The more the kids learn about “stuff” — from the Net and elsewhere — and question their hand-me-down beliefs, the emptier the churches and temples will become.
Are the Bible and the Koran equally dangerous? Not any longer. The Bible was once used as a vicious tool of repression. Countless millions suffered and died as a result. That’s in the past, thank His Noodliness, and the Koran has become the vicious new kid on the block.
We have to fight Islam. No question about that. But you don’t fight woo with woo. You fight it with reason and common sense.
The last thing we need today is, on the one side, another George Bush claiming that his god is speaking to him, giving him orders, and on the other a mad mullah claiming that HIS god is doing likewise. That way lies disaster.
Enough. Look at the time! Duty calls.
Wellington says
Take a look at what Dennis Prager has had to say about the wisdom found in the Bible. Also, how smart is it to insult members of a coalition fighting a common evil? The common evil is Islam and there are many Christians and Jews, along with agnostics, atheists, Hindus, Buddhists, et al. who form a broad-front coalition against what Islam intends for us all. One fight at a time unless it is absolute necessary to fight more than one fight at a time. I submit it is here not necessary. Think coalition. Think smarter.
TediNeo98 says
@Wellington – couldn’t agree with you more.
“It has to be a broad-front coalition against what islam intends for us all.”
celtic warriarcanada says
As I read this article my first thoughts were : How I WISH ! THIS WAS JUST PROPAGANDA SOME ONE POSTED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INCITING HATRED TOWARDS MUSLIMS. HOW I Wish IT WAS SO ! BUT, THE COLD DARK STEELY METALLIC TRUTH, IS THAT ITS REAL !!! AND ITS ACTUALLY HAPPENING ! I Guess I can understand to some extent why some people CHOOSE TO BE IN DENIAL ! GOD HELP US ALL WHO LOVE AND CHERISH THE FEMALES IN OUR LIVES AND GOD ESPECIALLY HELP THEM !
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
“Islamic State sex slave forced to recite Qur’an during rapes”..
Islam’s Pedophile “Prophet” must have really got a “Smiling Grin” and a ” BIG High” from that – was this in Muhamed’s “Hevenly Whorehouse”, and were those Famous “72 Dark Eyed Virgins” in attendance too ?
gravenimage says
Islamic State sex slave forced to recite Qur’an during rapes
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The “religion” of rape and sex slavery.
My God, how I hate Islam.
How many more are there just like Suzan? This is what pious Muslims want for all of us.
TediNeo98 says
Spot on Graven
gravenimage says
Thanks, Ted.
Champ says
IS = islamic SAVAGES!
particolor says
Islam is ABOLA !!
spot on says
Mohammed was Satan’s most hideous (and favorite) son.
Rob says
Where is the Western feminist outrage?
cranky.white.woman says
That’s reserved for western men who have the nerve to — gasp! — open doors for women.
I’d like to see them try holding one of their “slut walks” in a Muslim majority neighbourhood. Sure would be an eye opener for them.
thelmalou says
Don’t know what you mean by “slut walks” but not all feminists turn a blind eye to Islamic misogyny. I know it when I see it, and I saw it in your comment too.
thelmalou says
Oh, excuse me sister. What is wrong with you using the term “slut”? This is an article decrying the dehumanization of women. Have some self respect.
Angemon says
thelmalou posted:
“Don’t know what you mean by “slut walks””
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/SlutWalk
gravenimage says
For anyone not familiar with feminist “slut walks”, here is an article:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/slutwalks-and-the-future-of-feminism/2011/06/01/AGjB9LIH_story.html
While aspects of these events can sometimes be pretty silly, the core message is that rape victims should not be blamed for their rape. That is, in fact, one of the main issues in the article above.
thelmalou says
OK, I concede.
gravenimage says
Glad this was useful, thelmalou.
Matthieu Baudin says
…”Suzan’s story is more than just a heart-breaking story of cruelty, slavery and sexual abuse. It also underscores the social stigma that follows some of the abused women for the rest of their lives.”…
There’s a place for a special initiative to help these poor souls rise up out of this mire of abuse. It won’t be enough to just deal with the sadists.
londo says
And do remember the stories about rape (or even rape camps I believe) that we heard from Bosnia. It turned out victims where not so easy to find, not in the amounts claimed. Several books on the Bosnian conflict squarely contest their existence but the alleged rapes/rape camps played a big part in the de-humanization of the Serbs and the eventual bombing of Yugoslavia. What is so different now I ask?
afrostreetwise says
Rape and koran all wraped together? I have to conclude serious islam practitioners know they worship the devil. I read somewhere of an isis recruit(male) who was ” married” by a gang of 5 jihadists and everytime they finished there business “they recited strange verses of the koran” .
They “married” him five times and during all this time they were taking photos threatening to send to his family if he failed to do as instructed!
“The reason i liked the jihad watch and faith freedom site is because they gave me an insight into why a volunteer jihadist can claim “they recited strange verses…… “
Angemon says
She could apply for asylum in the UK. There she would just be known as a racist, islamophobic bigot. I doubt she got it though – British muslims might react violently and as such she’d wouldn’t be allowed in.
wildbill2u says
I don’t know why EVERY citizen of the world who isn’t Muslim doesn’t see this type of thing going on all over the Mid East and Egypt and Africa and realize that Islam is a religion that infects its most radical adherents with a theological justification for all sorts of horrors that other religions and modern societies have renounced long ago: rape, murder of infidels & Muslim gays, torture, and enslavement.
Folks have got to stop making allowances for these lunatics for beliefs and actions they would denounce in other religions such as Christianity, Jewish, Hindu, Buddhist, Sikhs, and even Atheists.
R Cole says
With Koran in hand!!
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Clearly as Islamic scripture lays it out the whole of humanity – is meant to the footstool to those who believe in Islam.
You can argue that it is hypocritical – that Muslim women are obsessed with covering up – sometimes with only one eye shown – but on the other side Muslim men have permission to attack and rape – any women not wearing the traditional Arab garb or is not a Muslim.
In Europe there is an epidemic of Muslim men raping girls and women outside of their faith.
In one case a Muslim men said he was attending prayers at the [notorious] East London Mosque – so he could not have raped the woman – but when he was found to be lying and then found guilty – a group of burqa clad Muslim women in the court gallery shouted abuse – calling the rape victim a prostitute.
There was a sermon [reported by a disgusted attendee] – at the same mosque – on the Muslim men’s right to rape non-Muslim women.
To the outside – it is hypocritical – that the virtuous image – of the Muslim woman nestled in her inseparable headscarf – goes hand in hand with the acceptance that the Muslim man has a right under Islam to rape.
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You can’t make it up!!
Mike Holt, CEO RestoreAustralia says
Oooh! The koran as a sex aid. That will work!
There’s one place I’d like to shove their fkn koran…..a nice warm brown dark place!
Lesley says
I wish we had some proper and sensible leadership that would deport all Muslims and forbid the practice of Islam. I’ve written letters, but what else can I do? I speak to the people I know about the evils of Islam until I’m pretty sure most of them think I wear a tin foil hat, and I am just so frustrated with this situation.
It’s like we’re facing a slowly moving steamroller, and most people ignore it. We could easily eradicate this danger, and our leaders not only do nothing, but they’re importing Muslim immigrants into our country in large numbers for ‘diversity’-?-
Islam is institutionalized evil that is so unspeakably bad– my heart breaks for this girl, and the many, many others who are suffering… and what are we doing? Dropping palettes of water bottles for the Yezidis? Airstrikes? Flipping wipe them out already, and ban their backwards ‘religion’.
I’m not a religious person, but I have morals that come from the Judeo-Christian traditions. I’m pretty much okay with any religion except Islam, for obvious reasons. How can we remove the ideology of Islam from our list of ‘religions’? It really isn’t a religion, it’s a plan for world dominance and savagery.
The Matrix says
Sexual rape, torture and violence against women is the sixth pillar of Islam. As it turns out, things will only get worse with shariah law being tolerated by more countries in the west.
Peggy says
GG Said:
Are the Bible and the Koran equally dangerous? Not any longer. The Bible was once used as a vicious tool of repression. Countless millions suffered and died as a result. That’s in the past, thank His Noodliness, and the Koran has become the vicious new kid on the block.
We have to fight Islam. No question about that. But you don’t fight woo with woo. You fight it with reason and common sense.
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The Koran is not the new kid on the block. Koran has been around for 1400 years and was always a bully. It’s followers have just become more efficient at delivering it’s message.
You say we should fight with reason and common sense. Well, try reasoning with ISIS now or did Lee Rigby have any chance to reason with anyone?
No, when they slap us we punch them. We fight fire with an even bigger fire.