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Mosque Obama hails as “model” tied to 12 jihad terrorists

May 16, 2015 11:58 pm By Robert Spencer

Video thanks to Creeping Sharia.

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  1. Rita says

    May 17, 2015 at 12:52 am

    Obama’s darling mosque linked to 12 Jihad Terrorists? 12? Twelve?

    Make that 13 by including the Hussein in the White House.

    • Don McKellar says

      May 17, 2015 at 8:51 am

      The mosque’s only fault that Obama is concerned with is that now it’s got a bunch of bad publicity.

  2. pdxnag says

    May 17, 2015 at 1:45 am

    So, they are a model of fidelity to elementary Islam.

  3. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 17, 2015 at 1:49 am

    But…but Obama – DESPITE your “Pandering” to Islam” – Mosque Obama hails as “model” – the Islamic State STILL says: “Our goal is killing Obama and the worshipers of the cross” ,

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/islamic-state-our-goal-is-killing-obama-and-the-worshipers-of-the-cross

    THIS IS Islam’s “REWARD” to Obama, for HIS Assistance to ISLAM, by being VERY apparently Pro Islam, and Pro Muslim, “Pandering”, while seemingly Anti America, Anti Constitution, Anti Christian, Anti Israel and Anti Christian – through his OWN Administration’s WELL DOCUMENTED Actions, Words, and Deeds.

    • Brian says

      May 17, 2015 at 7:20 pm

      Unfortunately Obama is not the right type of Muslim for ISIS/ISIL but he is accepted by Saudi Arabia et al…

  4. Loretta Pienaar says

    May 17, 2015 at 1:59 am

    William Lucas Harvey Jr, right on.

  5. TediNeo98 says

    May 17, 2015 at 2:08 am

    I genuinely think that if individuals wish to practice islam in the west, then very strong parameters must be put in place. They need to forego the hatred of Jews & Christians, the rape, mysogeny, violence, ban the burka…mmm that doesn’t leave much left. A local muslim has explained that they do do alot of charity work. I asked who for? Oh it’s within the muslim community only – that’s what we are taught. I have now concluded that we should just ban the lot, mosques too – I have yet to see any muslim individual or community do anything for the greater good of society as a whole – their hate for us all knows no bounds.

    If banned in the west, we can ship them all off to Saudi Arabia where they can practice their hateful political ideology all day, every day in “peace.”A place where churches, bibles and the preaching of Christianity is banned. Then the Saudi’s & Iran can blow each other to s**t, arguing about who their moon god thinks is more muslim.
    I really hate everything this so called religion of peace stands for.

    • Linde Barrera says

      May 17, 2015 at 2:51 am

      To TediNeo98- I agree with your comment that Islam is evil, vile and arrogant. And any mosque in the USA that preaches jihad and gets idiots to carry out that jihad, MUST be brought to justice under the RICO laws.(previously used against gangsters and mobsters.) But we need to remember that every Muslim has a soul, can be redeemed by the blood of Jesus Christ, and be converted by the Holy Spirit. This is the teaching in orthodox Christianity, ex: The Lutheran Church. I do not know if fundamentalist Christians subscribe to this, however. So we must pray for Muslims to be converted to Christ, while hating the evil, vile, arrogant ideology of Islam. And to any atheists on this site, I say “God bless you too.” Atheists have a right to believe what they like as long as no one gets hurt, due to atheist beliefs. It is evil that Islam claims to acknowledge “God” and yet demands murder! I never heard of an atheist (correct me if I am wrong) that has demanded the death of people who don’t subscribe to atheism. To quote the Wicked Witch of the West: “What a world…..”

      • TediNeo98 says

        May 17, 2015 at 3:40 am

        @ Linde. I hear you and there will probably be some muslims open to a different view point; however there are many that aren’t and whilst we allow them to live in the west unchallenged, festering on their hate, they will eventually act on it – an example of this is the Lee Rigby murder. Subsequently there have been additional attempts on our military and police since Lee’s death, so far they have been thwarted.
        I still believe we need to get serious about Islam and if that means putting strict parameters in place, then so be it. I don’t see why the more pious muslims don’t move out to the ME and live out their hateful religion to their heart’s content – sadly, I know the reason…it’s that they have this whole world domination, sharia law & creating a caliphate going on.
        I think which ever way this problem is approached and however it plays out, there will be many more casualties all across the world in the fight for our freedom.
        I have been reading and listening to Dr Mark Durie recently and I respect his approach and bravery too.

        • Linde Barrera says

          May 17, 2015 at 12:47 pm

          To TediNeo98- Thank you for your astute comments, most of which I agree. I am watching “Scaramouche” on Turner Classic Movies channel. It takes place in France just before the French Revolution. The Queen learns from one of her courtiers that a man is publishing pamphlets about “liberty, equality, and fraternity”. The Queen asks what does all that mean? The courtier says: “It means they want to have our heads and end our way of life.” So we freedom fighters must be like the pamphleteers and get the word out about the Islamists intentions regarding our rights and liberties with respect to sharia law, which is not about God’s will, but about who is in power and how can all their slaves satisfy their whims from moment to moment. We can’t claim their cancer! I look forward to your next comment. God’s blessings to you.

      • spot on says

        May 17, 2015 at 5:30 am

        Linde, Only Jesus could handle such an impossible job.

        • Linde Barrera says

          May 17, 2015 at 12:59 pm

          To Spot On- I agree totally. Thank you.

      • June Skelton says

        May 17, 2015 at 5:34 am

        Linde, perhaps the human race will be safe when ALL of us forgo those beliefs that lead to danger and loss of life. Christianity is, alas, not yet free of such beliefs.

        We need secularism and the belief in the importance of human dignity. You want irrational mythology? Your kids’ fairy-tale books are full of them. Cinderella is infinitely preferable to an invented deity that condemns those who don’t believe in him to everlasting hellfire.

        • oldwhiteguy says

          May 17, 2015 at 8:23 am

          secularism is foolishness. the morality that most think we should live with and the morality that forms the basis for all our law is Judeo Christian. when you try and do away with the morality based on that teaching you usually wind up with chaos and violence. you will notice that secular humanism is currently unable to deal with islam in any positive way.

        • Linde Barrera says

          May 17, 2015 at 1:23 pm

          To June Skelton- I respect your 5:34 am post, June. Secularism has its good points. But I want to respond to “invented deity who condemns those to hell fire who don’t believe in him”. Earlier this year I read a fantastic book about the art of icons. The author quoted one of the saints who put forth this idea: If a person does not love what Jesus stands for, and wants no part of what God’s kingdom is about (“Come and dine”), then God will do that person a favor and send that person to a place where s/he will not have to see or hear God’s love and light again. I mean, can’t God feel sad at being rejected by persons? To me it is more like an accommodation than a punishment. I look forward to your next post.

        • underbed cat says

          May 17, 2015 at 1:35 pm

          “oldwhiteguy” I agree we had a moral code from the beginning that protected religious rights and somehow islam slipped in the melting pot but will never recognize our laws. Maybe a definition of religion should align with the word “life” and ban any religion that calls for the death of infidels…other souls or any other religion.

        • Linda Rivera says

          May 17, 2015 at 4:11 pm

          June Skelton, Are you aware that there have been groups of people who were so utterly evil that that was the reason that God wanted them wiped out and was also the reason why God brought the flood upon the earth?

          Several years ago I was going through difficult circumstances. I had a Bible which I never read and opened it straight to the Scripture “Call upon Me in the day of trouble. I shall rescue you and You will honor Me.” I would open the Bible other times and the Bible would always open to that verse. I became a Bible believing Christian, but it was Scriptures in the Old Testament that assured me over and over again of God’s Love and Concern.

          I know that in the longest, darkest night when ALL hope is gone, God is with us.

          God’s Goodness, Love, Kindness, Mercy and Forgiveness shine throughout the entire Bible. I know that there really are no safe places on this earth. The Bible tells us that God’s future beautiful Kingdom is coming on this earth and that the evil ones will never again hurt another human being.

          One of God’s Ten Commandments: Exodus 20 You shall not murder.

          Bible, Proverbs 3:3 Do not let kindness and truth leave you.
          Proverbs 4:4 Keep My commandments and live.

          God teaches Kindness.

          Micah 6:8 And what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness and to walk humbly with your God.

          There is no Golden Rule in Islam. Only cruelty and violence. Jesus taught the Golden Rule.

          Matthew 7:12 Treat people the same way you want them to treat you for this is the Law and the Prophets.

          The Golden Rule has always been the Law and the teaching of all the Prophets.

        • Western Canadian says

          May 17, 2015 at 9:05 pm

          ” Cinderella is infinitely preferable to an invented deity that condemns those who don’t believe in him to everlasting hellfire.” Since this punishment is NOT part of the Old or New Testaments, that would suggest that you are speaking from a position of ignorance….. Before praising or condemning any belief system…. you really should try to go to the source….. As someone who does not claim to be a Christian, I find the irrational attacks on it, to still be VERY tiresome and offensive.

    • mezcukor says

      May 17, 2015 at 9:09 am

      Ted I wish for that everyday

    • Terri says

      May 17, 2015 at 2:54 pm

      I agree with you 100%. They are the only group of people who come here not with the intention of becoming a part of our great Nation and enjoying the freedoms we have. They come here as invaders, since we are the infidels worthy only of death. I can’t understand the majority of people who can’t seem to understand that is Islam is a completely hateful and murderous ideology, bent on nothing but world domination. We cannot allow them into our Country, but we have so many here, brought in great part by the Obama administration. They practiced Taquirya which allows any Muslim to lie to gain the trust of his enemies in order to takeover their Country. That is why every word out of Obama’s mouth is a lie. He is practicing his faith. Notice how after he mentioned the Crusades on purpose at Easter, and since them Christians have been targeted by ISIS and islamists for murder. Obama has caused the all the chaos going on in the world right now, falls at his feet. The only person I know who may love chaos more is Satan, and that is exactly what Islam is, Satanic.

    • gravenimage says

      May 17, 2015 at 11:13 pm

      TediNeo98 wrote:

      A local muslim has explained that they do do alot of charity work. I asked who for? Oh it’s within the muslim community only – that’s what we are taught…
      ………………………….

      It’s actually worse than this implies, Ted. “Zakat” is usually translated as “charity” in the West, but it is really funding for *anything* that enables the spread of Islam.

      That is why Zakat is as likely to fund violent Jihad as it is anything we would recognize as charity. This is why most schools, orphanages, hospitals, and disaster relief in Dar-al-Islam is funded by Christians, Jewish, and secular Infidel organizations, usually from the West, rather than by their fellow Muslims.

      And in the West, so many Muslims are on the dole.

      The fact is that charitable giving from Muslims—even in oil-wealthy countries—is among the lowest in the world even when adjusted for income.

      • TediNeo98 says

        May 18, 2015 at 8:15 am

        Thanks for the more detailed explanation Graven. I am really fed up with these people…there always seems to be a hidden agenda with them…

  6. No Fear says

    May 17, 2015 at 4:01 am

    There is a probability of somewhere between ZERO and ONE that illegal activity is occurring in any mosque.

    In the UK that probability is close to ONE. In Australia it is not that high.

    When a local government gives zoning approval to a mosque, the approval is given KNOWING that PROBABLY something illegal will happen in that mosque. When that illegal activity finally occurs those people who knowingly gave it zoning approval should be personally SUED.

    Force the authorities to do their job which is to UPHOLD the LAW!

    • spot on says

      May 17, 2015 at 5:37 am

      A way to find out if a Mosque is breaking the law would be to determine if they are following Sharia.

    • underbed cat says

      May 17, 2015 at 4:07 pm

      No Fear. did you mean to say” that illegal activity is NOT occurring in mosques?” Because it seems your estimate is very low.

      • pumbar says

        May 18, 2015 at 2:58 am

        I think he was referring to binary underbed cat. Zero would be none and one is 100%. An either/or situation.

        • underbed cat says

          May 18, 2015 at 8:02 am

          Thanks…ok thanks.

  7. Truth Seeker says

    May 17, 2015 at 5:15 am

    The Greatest Blunder one makes is Believing Muslim. They are Bound to practise Taqiyaah for getting Janaah. Many of their statements will not be Truth but are to Trap the Innocents.

  8. Angemon says

    May 17, 2015 at 6:09 am

    A “model mosque” when it comes to “fighting violent extremism”, eh? Two words: islamic doublespeak…

  9. epistemology says

    May 17, 2015 at 7:17 am

    Obama is a wanker. To celebrate a breeding ground for terrorists as a “model” is beyond the pale. He’ll never learn that Islam is the religion of terrorism.

    • Western Canadian says

      May 17, 2015 at 10:05 pm

      As long as it hates the Jewish/Christian west, he approves of it.

  10. rcourtemanche says

    May 17, 2015 at 8:51 am

    Get rid of all Mosques including their promoter, Obama.

  11. Richie says

    May 17, 2015 at 11:12 am

    Maybe because Obama IS a Muslim, and shares their twisted mindset of victimhood .
    His hatred of Israel falls on lockstep with Islamic beliefs

  12. JamesonRocks says

    May 17, 2015 at 11:47 am

    Hmmm… Let us also remember when President Obama put forth Yemen as a “model.”

  13. abad says

    May 17, 2015 at 11:51 am

    I am not surprised. Is that the mosque Obama attends, too? He needs to be impeached.

  14. Freda says

    May 17, 2015 at 11:57 am

    What an eye sore.

  15. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    Isn’t this the joint that got taxpayer money to go into business? Exceptions are the rule when it comes to Moslems, both exceptions to the law and exceptions to common sense.

  16. Jaladhi says

    May 17, 2015 at 12:50 pm

    All mosques are responsible for the so called “radicalizing”!! Mosques the imams are just teaching Islam to the young ones and they are simply following the religion in purest form buy murdering infidels!! The “lone wolf” narrative that our media and leaders so vehemently push whenever a Muslim carries out his religious duty by murdering a non-Muslim simply doesn’t exist- they are all part of one big gang of wolves and its called Islam/Muslims.

    • Betty says

      May 17, 2015 at 6:44 pm

      I agree their is and never be a lone wolf. they are ties some where else. sill can’t figure out where they came up with the phrase lone wolf.

      • Jaladhi says

        May 17, 2015 at 8:59 pm

        I think – our “politically correct” idiots in media and the administration and of course our academia share equal amount of blame for coming up with the “lone wolf” phrase that absolves their dear Muslim friends!!

  17. underbed cat says

    May 17, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    This video from Creeping Sharia is very powerful but I guess we will never see it on CNN..is it possible? My immediate thought is that this is the link..if Obama is consulting or attending and using this mosque could that not be seen as traitorous or is does he define it as religious dialogue. Smiling all the way. Problem is defining or getting out the information about the ties of jihad terror and islamic mosque. Maybe his talk about counter violent extremism is code for anyone who has studied islam and speaks out abut the meaning of jihad..etc. The situation with the Pope, who now states the Imans are angels should talk to Sister Hatune. I cannot believe the information is out there but it is so well defended this is so unreal.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      May 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm

      … but I guess we will never see it on CNN..is it possible?

      No, that is not possible.

      • underbed cat says

        May 17, 2015 at 1:19 pm

        Not possible due to legal concerns or not enough fact?

        • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

          May 18, 2015 at 6:07 am

          Not enough will, which results in not enough fact, which in turn is the result of willful ignorance. The idea that taxpayer dollars are not to be used to promote a religion is well established in the law. Ain’t heard of taxpayer dollars going to start up a church or a temple, whether the latter is a Jewish or a Hindu temple here in the United States. But, now that we’re no longer a nation of laws, that may change too.

  18. Screeminmeeme says

    May 17, 2015 at 1:36 pm

    I believe that 10 mosques in the US should be razed for every American in or out of the military, who is killed by jihadists.

    America should forbid the building of any new mosques.

    No professing Muslim….secular or fundamental….should be permitted to service on a police force, in our military, or in any way in our government. Their allegiance is only to Islam.

    And in a perfect world, Islam and any reference to it would be eradicated from the earth and Robert Spencer would be out of the business of informing the world about its evils.

    We all owe Robert, Pam, Geert, Ibrahim and many others for their courage and willingness to speak forth the truth in warning us about this vile ideology.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      May 18, 2015 at 6:09 am

      No professing Muslim….secular or fundamental….should be permitted to service on a police force, in our military, or in any way in our government.

      Don’t forget healthcare. What Infidel wants to be treated by a Moslem doctor or nurse?

      • underbed cat says

        May 18, 2015 at 8:20 am

        Yes, Alarmed Pig Farmer…I agree, especially about the medical profession. I also ponder the research clinics…whose advise are they following…the incidence of autism in the U.S. is extremely high, while not so much in the muslim world…the children look very healthy. All the recommendations for pregnant women could be misleading. I have suspicions about folate acid…that could be harmful if a woman is anemic, pregnant. It has been promoted for some time. I came across a study that stated it could be detrimental. I reacted badly to the supplement…that started my search.

  19. Glenn says

    May 17, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    A well know speaker at a conference said, and I quote, “think of every mosque ans a national guard armory!” I think about that everyday, and everyone elsr should too.

  20. h says

    May 17, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    I don’t believe Obama is ignorant therefore a logical belief is that he is a muslim and for certain a muslim sympathizer or both. Intelligence services-guaranteed.

  21. John Stefan Obeda says

    May 17, 2015 at 6:12 pm

    Christians must remember to pray and to pray often for Robert, Geert, Pam, Ibrahim and many others that God will keep their minds sharp and protect them from all harm and danger and from the devil and it would be good to add that God bless Christians to tell others the good news of salvation, i.e. that God forgives us our sins by His grace for Jesus’ sake through faith in Him. When God is successful to grant this saving faith to anyone, including especially an Islamist, he becomes a new creation.

  22. John Boston says

    May 17, 2015 at 8:26 pm

    This mosque is in my area. It is easy to reach.

    • Linde Barrera says

      May 17, 2015 at 9:07 pm

      To John Boston- What are you thinking? Don’t go it alone John.

  23. gravenimage says

    May 17, 2015 at 10:35 pm

    Mosque Obama hails as “model” tied to 12 jihad terrorists
    ………………………….

    Gee—those “moderate” Muslims are proving more elusive all the time…

  24. June Skelton says

    May 18, 2015 at 2:51 am

    Western Canadian,

    I can give you a link to a self-awareness course you could follow. But I won’t. You’d probably construe that as bigotry and hated on my part.

    • Western Canadian says

      May 18, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      Wrong, as usual for you. YOU, recommending a self awareness course?? If that is an effort of satire, I would think it to be incredibly funny, a great display of humour!!!! But if it is serious, from someone as sickeningly blind to her own staggering level of ignorance about anything and everything, as well as so blind she thinks she has an edge on anyone who dares to believe in an ethical system that SHE does not approve of?? No, that is merely an example of just how sick and blind you are….

      And anyone who posts links to loony-toon hate and conspiracy sites, has REALLY got problems. But you are so self unaware, that you are blind to that, too.

      • June Skelton says

        May 20, 2015 at 3:11 am

        Oh dear. Such anger. Sad.

  25. Fritz Kohlhaas says

    May 18, 2015 at 4:14 am

    Obama, you really are a nasty piece of work!

  26. duh_swami says

    May 18, 2015 at 6:26 am

    ‘Everyone knows more about it (religion) than you do. Give them an opportunity and they will tell you all about it’…Reverend Hensley…
    JW gives them the opportunity, and that’s what they do.
    Religious supremacist bigotry is not something Islam owns excursively…

    Resist mosque building in your area if one is planned.
    Mosque building is one way Islam spreads…’if you build it, they will come’…

  27. Peggy says

    May 18, 2015 at 11:05 pm

    June Skelton says

    May 17, 2015 at 3:32 pm

    “It is only Islam as far as I can see that is so full of hate for everyone else.”

    Sorry, can’t agree, Chris. The Bible is, if anything, far more bloodthirsty. Have you delved into it lately? No? You might ask yourself why we rarely see many Amalekites these days — or Hittites, or Amorites, or Canaanites, or Perizzites, or Hivites, or Jebusites, all of whom the lovely Yahweh ordered the Israelites to exterminate. Yes, Jesus’s dad is a real nice guy.
    ========================================
    Are you seriously comparing Christianity with Islam?
    Are you aware that the new testament exists and the old one is not a guide any longer? I am not a minister of religion or anything like that but proof of the pudding is in the eating. Just take a look at what Muslims say they have to do for their religion and what Christians say.
    Christians talk of charity, compassion, love and understanding. Is anything like that in Islam even possible when any old verses which had a little of that are superceded by the new hateful ones and since there is no more the Koran is going to stay that way forever.
    We don’t need to get rid of Christianity to live in peace. We need to get rid of Islam.

    • TediNeo98 says

      May 19, 2015 at 5:06 am

      Peggy you are spot on – June is completely missing the point regarding abrogation(forgive my spelling). Islam is evil at it’s very core – the later verses superceding the more peacefull one’s. During Jesus’s life the only things he conveyed was doing good to others, as I understand it the purpose of his life was to abrogate the old mosaic law.
      Look June, no one is saying that Christianity was great all the time, but the one’s that I do know today try to do right by others.

    • John Boston says

      May 19, 2015 at 8:35 am

      Right on! Christianity (and Buddhism, and Hinduism, and Sikhism, and all the others) does/do not act anything like Islam. Forget the Middle Ages and the Inquisition. That was then and this is now.

      Besides, the entire moral-equivalence argument between Islam and Christianity is tu quoque, “thou likewise”. So it is a fallacy to say, in effect, “but Christianity did things like Islam does.”

      If anyone tries that with me, we will play a game. I will let them start with a modern Christian atrocity, and then I will give an recent Islamic atrocity. Back and forth it will go until one of us runs out of atrocities. Any idea who will run out first?

      • John Boston says

        May 19, 2015 at 8:40 am

        sorry about the typo; should be “a” recent Islamic atrocity. On another note, I have ordered a T-shirt with the infamous “bombhead” Mohammed cartoon on the front. It looks like the company is going to print it, so I will wear it. Is this wise, unwise, useful, or what? What can I expect? Like to hear comments.

        • Mirren10 says

          May 19, 2015 at 9:20 am

          Please post a link, John !

          I’ll order one, and wear it, as well. 🙂

          Never, ever, ever, surrender !

        • John Boston says

          May 19, 2015 at 1:31 pm

          Here is the company’s link. They have confirmed my order, so it looks like they will make the shirt. Stand strong!
          http://www.customink.com/

      • Linde Barrera says

        May 19, 2015 at 1:40 pm

        To John Boston- I truly appreciate your comment of 8:35 asking for accounting of Christian and Muslim atrocities. When anyone says “But the Crusades were bad…” I respond by saying “The Crusades were carried out because of Islamic oppression in the Holy Land. The Seljuk Turks from eastern Turkey swept down into Syria and Jerusalem, abusing and killing Christians there. So stronger, better armed Christians from Europe decided to fight back and defend the Christians in Syria and Jerusalem from the Islamists. The Crusaders won 2 out of 7 warring sessions.” But, in modern times, here is a shocking fact, and I have not been able to uncover the motive. In 1994 between April and July, 800,000 Christians in Rwanda were murdered. It was between these 2 tribes: Hutsi and Tutsi. My memory does not remember which of these tribes suffered more losses, but both tribes were supposedly “Christian” and both the Protestant and Catholic churches knew what was happening and were silent, even though certain individual clergymen tried to help prevent casualties by hiding people wherever they could. All I can say is, I feel sad and wonder if I and other Christians could have done something to stop even 1 individual from massacre.

    • June Skelton says

      May 19, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      Peggy commented: “Are you aware that the new testament exists and the old one is not a guide any longer?”

      Really? In that case I’ll have to tell my Christian friends that they’ll have to stop obeying the Ten Commandments.

      • TediNeo98 says

        May 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm

        Seriously June…if you want to dis Christianity then you have every right to do so; however no other religion has gone through a reformation like Christianity over the last several hundred years & I am not saying they get everything right today, far from it.
        What is concerning about your comments is the fact that you are trying to compare this with Islam today. Islam is responsible for more death & misery around the world than all the other religions collectively – I care about TODAY, this affects my future.
        BTW a large portion of our taxes are now used by the MOD/FBI etc to protect us from….ah you guessed it ISLAM, not Christianity.

        • June Skelton says

          May 19, 2015 at 5:30 pm

          No, Ted, you’ve got it wrong. I’m merely asking the holier-than-thou Christians to examine their own beliefs before they diss another’s.

          I care about today as much as you do. I’m a humanist and am dismayed that so many people still haven’t realized that religion, pace the late, great Christopher Hitchens, poisons everything.

        • Linde Barrera says

          May 19, 2015 at 5:49 pm

          To June Skelton- I understand your concerns about religion, and my comment should not be considered a trick or entrapment. But when any religion has core beliefs such as, just putting one out here as an example: “A good name is to be chosen above riches” (Proverbs 22:1) and some humans choose to seek wealth over a good name, is that the fault of the religion? In my opinion, it is the humans who made poor choices and screwed up!

      • Mirren10 says

        May 20, 2015 at 1:23 pm

        June Skelton says:

        ”No, Ted, you’ve got it wrong. I’m merely asking the holier-than-thou Christians to examine their own beliefs before they diss another’s”

        I am agnostic, but I can see very clearly the huge chasm between what the Bible says, and what the koran says.

        The Old Testament is, very largely, the history of the Jewish people. It is, in the main, descriptive rather than prescriptive. Not so the koran.

        The New Testament is devoted to Christ and his message.

        If you read *both*, side by side, I think you will find that the message of the koran strongly *needs* to be ‘dissed’.

        ” … religion, pace the late, great Christopher Hitchens, poisons everything.”

        The only religion *today* that poisons everything, is islam.

    • Mark says

      May 23, 2015 at 7:32 am

      Extremely ignorant people, often fooled by muslims, having little morality will happily parrot lies and missinformation..

      However i it extremely common that satans muslims adopt a disguise of not being a muslim in order to do their warfare lying.

  28. John Boston says

    May 20, 2015 at 9:46 am

    Be that as it may, Christianity having done its own atrocities, that is a “tu quoque” argument, i.e., “thou also”. It is a fallacy to try to justify or ameliorate evil in Islam by comparing it to Christian evils. Also, two wrongs do not make a right. The wrong in Islam’s case is so very great, and so heinous, that no other religion can be compared to it. Islam is the most dangerous religion on Earth.

    • Terri says

      May 20, 2015 at 10:52 am

      There is no comparison between Christianity and Islam. Islam is a Satanic ideology that only murders and slaughters innocent people. What kind of God has to force conversion? Just because things have been done in the name of Christ, and Christians were fighting the Muslim invaders during the Crusades, doesn’t mean that is what Jesus wanted them to do. Jesus is Lord and Savior, one day every knee will bow and tongue confess Jesus Christ is Lord. Christianity has more to benefit mankind than any other religion and that is because it is the truth. Who is the first on the scene in a catastrophe, Christian organizations, who were the first to found our great colleges which many have become communistic/socialistic? Christians. Who started and have some of the best hospitals in the world, Christians. What has Islam done? Nothing, other than murder and slaughter innocent people, including small toddlers who they buried alive, cut in two, and crucified. How could anyone in islam ever be happy? They wake up every day with the idea of who next can we slaughter. They single out Christians and Jews, because they are the people of God, and Islam is Satanic, through and through. Jesus came to this earth voluntarily, leaving Heaven to come and walk among men, and lay down his life, as a sheep led to the slaughter for all of our sins, and rose again, ascended to Heaven and is coming again soon. I pray for those lost in islam, that they will find Jesus. Many have had visions of Jesus and been coming to Christ. You are not going to convince anyone who is commenting here that there is a God, if they don’t want to believe, although his creation is evident all around us. The people who say there is no God honesty know deep down there is, but they want to continue living in sin, but if they honesty want to know the truth, all they have to do is pray and ask God if you are real, reveal yourself to me, and he will. All who seek the truth will find Jesus. ” He is the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father but by him.” Jesus loves us all and died for all of our sins, but it is your choice to choose to follow him, or not. He gave us freewill, he does not force conversion. I have known Jesus since I was a small child, I have seen many miracles and been healed many times, and seen others healed many times. Life is a miracle, and the gift of it, is from the true God, the God of the Bible, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ!

  29. Mark says

    May 23, 2015 at 7:36 am

    Humanists (so called) especially secular humanists with their vitriolic hatred of the idea of God and judgement for wrongdoing have done much to serve and advance islams agenda.

    Your reward will however be decapitation.

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