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NYT runs dung-caked Mary painting again, won’t run Muhammad cartoons

May 30, 2015 5:32 am By Robert Spencer

muhammed-sword-winnerThe hypocrisy is stark and absolute: “Under Times standards, we do not normally publish images or other material deliberately intended to offend religious sensibilities” — unless it offends a group that is not committing mass murder and threatening more over such images. This is, as I wrote yesterday, still more mainstream media canonization of the assassin’ veto. The mainstream media is signaling that terrorism works: threaten to kill us, and we will do what you want. That will only bring more terrorism.

“NYT’s Artistic Display of Religious Hypocrisy: Runs Offensive Virgin Mary Painting Once Again,” by Clay Waters, Newsbusters, May 29, 2015:

The New York Times’ hypocrisy regarding displays of “offensive” religious imagery runs unabated, as shown in a Scott Reyburn article in Friday’s Arts section on the sale of Chris Ofili’s controversial painting “The Holy Virgin Mary,” which shows the Virgin Mary clotted with elephant dung against a porn-collage background — and accompanied by a photograph of the offensive work.

Yet when the paper refused to reprint a cartoon of Muhammad that appeared in the Paris satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo that resulted in the January 2015 massacre of 12 magazine staffers, it offered this smug, cowardly justification:

Under Times standards, we do not normally publish images or other material deliberately intended to offend religious sensibilities. After careful consideration, Times editors decided that describing the cartoons in question would give readers sufficient information to understand today’s story.

Not fear of violent reprisal, but fear of “causing offense.” So why does Ofili’s dung-clotted Virgin Mary get a pass?…

Because no one will kill you over it.

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  1. Rezali Mehil says

    May 30, 2015 at 5:42 am

    Salaam All,

    O peoples of America, …can you now see the noor of Islam?…why did it take you so long?

    Your 1st amendment … must allow the printing/showing of this *masterpiece* …surely …come on now…you keep telling me how so fond and proud you are of this …but it is now in tatters, downtrodden…America has finally joined the rest of the world …..

    Not only will there be no more ads, no more pictures …there will also be no more cartoon competitions either…no fool facility will hold them…except for maybe on the Internet.

    Pam’s and Spencer’s foolishness has advanced Sharia in America by a decade…those who didn’t want the water tested …now know that the 1st amendment are just words…it does not matter.

    I suppose what *really* matters is your 2nd amendment …your right to bear arms …that is the one that needs to go…Pam…Spencer…best not to try and test that …it too will go oh so quickly …short amnesty, mass arrests ..heavy fines, long prison sentences…but peoples of America ..it does not have to be bad. …why….

    Well join us …become Muslims …be on the better side, the winning side. I said that there would be upto a million Muslims coming to the West within a decade…actually …that was a conservative estimate…it will be much more than that…what with all the kuffara wanting to becoming jihadi brides…stroking that beard and yet feeling the emptiness above the lip (I can picture Champ, Linde, Carolyne quite enjoying that) … I mean that combination will drive them wild with desire.

    Be calm Americans …and join….simply recite the sahada and you are in….welcome…

    More Later …

    • duh_swami says

      May 30, 2015 at 6:05 am

      Stay out of MY country…If you are already in it, get out…No one needs you to define America for Americans. Take your shahada and shove it…

    • nacazo says

      May 30, 2015 at 6:40 am

      لا إله إلا الله محمد لا رسول الله

      • Mo says

        May 30, 2015 at 10:51 am

        @ nacazo

        There is no God but the one revealed in the Bible.

        Can you tell me why you follow a warlord and child rapist? No Muslim ever explains this to me.

        • nacazo says

          May 30, 2015 at 2:22 pm

          My arabic says: Mo-ham Ed is not a prophet of God.

        • Greyhound Fancier says

          May 30, 2015 at 10:25 pm

          They follow Mohammad because Islam lets them be “religious” while committing every crime and atrocity possible, all the while feeling smug, superior, and holy.

          Come, Lord Jesus!

    • Paul says

      May 30, 2015 at 6:45 am

      More nonsense from little Miss Taqiyya. What can you say about some deranged
      female who agrees with the following? :

      “Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel
      others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore
      obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose
      part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places
      and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is
      High, Great. (Quran, 4:34)

      It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allah ibn ‘Abbas (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The
      Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said: “I was shown Hell
      and I have never seen anything more terrifying than it. And I saw that the majority of its
      people are women.” They said, “Why, O Messenger of Allah?” He said, “Because of their
      ingratitude (kufr).” It was said, “Are they ungrateful to Allah?” He said, “They are ungrateful
      to their companions (husbands) and ungrateful for good treatment. If you are kind to one
      of them for a lifetime then she sees one (undesirable) thing in you, she will say, ‘I have
      never had anything good from you.’” (Narrated by al-Bukhari, 1052)

    • Jax Tolmen says

      May 30, 2015 at 7:31 am

      You would do well to fear the reaper Rezali. It comes in forms too advanced for feeble, third world savages to comprehend.

      If one thing is certain when taking on the West, it is that we will annihilate you and everyone who dares to provoke us. We are the strong and you are the weak. Keep that in mind and crawl back to your cave.

    • Angemon says

      May 30, 2015 at 8:46 am

      Rezali Mehil posted:

      “simply recite the sahada and you are in”

      You know, there’s a direct correlation between pronouncing the shahada gibberish and violent, savage behaviour. It goes back to muhammad himself (well, he probably didn’t exist, but I’m sticking to islamic sources on this one). Muhammad was regarded as a mild-mannered individual, an appeaser, someone who could solve problems and mediate between opposing parties. After he became a muslim, all changed. He became an irate person, quick to anger and ever quicker to resort to violence. I suspect that the sound waves of the shahada stimulate the part of your brain responsible for aggression and savagery, increasing it to levels it wouldn’t normally grow into.

      Frankly, I suspect there’s money to be made with it. What country wouldn’t want a sonic weapon that turns regular people into foaming-at-the-mouth savages acting on their base instincts alone and capable of unspeakable acts of barbarism? Why send troops into an enemy nation when you can have their own citizens kill one another?

    • Gary says

      May 30, 2015 at 9:42 am

      Rezali,

      I’ll give you the same answer Simon Peter gave Jesus…..

      “Lord, to whom shall we go? Thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that Thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.”

      Very simply Rezali….

      allah the moon god will not save you. Repent Rezali or you will die in your sins.

      Jesus Christ: I AM THAT I AM The Alpha and the Omega. The First and the Last There is none beside Me.

      “There is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

    • Dan says

      May 30, 2015 at 10:10 am

      Question.

      What proof do we have Mehil isn’t some 15 year old trolling in Mommy’s basement?

      • Westman says

        May 30, 2015 at 10:50 am

        The probability that Rezali exists is about the same as for Muhammad existing as the perfect man. Someone, likely an egghead, is having fun, knowing enough to stir the pot without any real committment to what he writes. No true Muslim is this flippant about Islam.The BS detector is howling.

        In the best fantasy world, Crocodile Dundee would visit this, “just having a bit of fun”, boy and remove a few buttons.

    • ninetyninepct says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:08 am

      http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html

      Mo – ham – ed, a pedophile, child molester and murderer. Read through this link, Mo was into oral sex with little boys when there were no baby girls available.

    • Fr. Basil says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:12 am

      Since mahometans have a special respect for the Virgin Mary, why are they not objecting against this painting?

      And here is my shehada: There is no God but Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, and Jesus is God Incarnate risen from the dead.

      • Joseph says

        May 30, 2015 at 11:19 am

        I am with you there 100% on your shehada.
        May the Lord JESUS CHRIST shine on my face and grant me eternity with HIM in heaven.

        By the way Fr. Basil, …You just made my day! THANK YOU

      • abad says

        May 30, 2015 at 4:06 pm

        I think I like Fr. Basil’s sahada much better 🙂

      • TH says

        May 30, 2015 at 5:06 pm

        Have you read some days ago that mahomedans attacked and defaced a statue of the Virgin Mary on the grounds of a Catholic and broke into the Church?. Oh yes, they think that we believe the Virgin Mary is the third person of the trinity, something which no Christian heretical group ever dreamed of. Besides being violent, they are ignorant.

      • No Fear says

        May 31, 2015 at 4:32 am

        Geee, I like that shahada and I am an atheist.

    • Westman says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:38 am

      Rezali,

      You seem to be an exception to the lack of humor in Islam. Something just for you:

      Q: How does every Islamic joke start? A: By looking over your shoulder.

      Arab scientists have invented a time-travel device that can transport an entire country back to the middle ages.

      They’re calling it ‘Islam’.

      Q. What do you call a Muslim woman with an opinion? A: Anything you want, she’s already been stoned to death.

      Q: What’s the difference between Dar al-islam and Dannon yogurt? A: The yogurt has a living culture.

      A news reporter goes to see a Jewish man who has been going to the western wall in Israel to pray once a day for 70 years, the reporter goes up to him and says, “hello I’m a reporter for the BBC and we know you’re quite famous around this wall so we were wondering if we could ask you a few questions.” The man agrees and she asks, “so we were wondering; what have you actually been praying for all of these years?”

      The man replies, “I have been praying for peace between the Jews and Arabs and for all world hatred and terrorism to stop, and for my children and grandchildren to grown up in a peaceful world.”

      The news reporter says, “Wow that’s truly beautiful, how do you feel after doing this for 70 years?”

      The man replies, “I feel like I’ve been talking to a brick wall.”

      • abad says

        May 30, 2015 at 4:08 pm

        LOOOL at the Dannon yogurt joke thanks for making me laugh 🙂

    • Deborah says

      May 30, 2015 at 12:23 pm

      “O peoples of America, …can you now see the noor of Islam?”

      Sorry, but Islam still looks the same steaming pile of dung that it was the last time I looked.

      • Shane says

        May 31, 2015 at 10:04 am

        I agree, Islam stinks. We need another series of Crusades to get the Muslims out of North America and Europe.

        The Crusades, Fact and Fiction:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMGRGtiO9Ro

        Did Islamic Atrocities Provoke the Crusades? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imTY5izhTDo

    • cjk says

      May 30, 2015 at 1:21 pm

      Reciting the Shithada is the equivalent of selling ones soul to Allah (Satan). Only the spiritually minded can realize this and that is why you fiends are going to win. The West has lost it’s soul and WILL LOSE this battle unless a great spiritual revival occurs. Bottom line: Even a wicked god such as Allah will defeat no God.

      • deja vu says

        May 30, 2015 at 10:17 pm

        cjk: Bottom line: Even a wicked god such as Allah will defeat no God.

        There is no way that a counterfeit ‘god’ (such as Allah) can defeat the One True God, Yahweh, the creator and sustainer of the universe. Through the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, sin and death have been conquered. This is, in essence, a spiritual battle for the souls of mankind. A counterfeit will never prevail over the genuine. It is not a matter of ‘no God’ but of an imposter claiming to be God when he is the exact opposite, having none of the attributes of the true God – and therefore no authority, sovereignty or power over Him.

        If Allah seems to be gaining ground it is because the true omnipotent, sovereign God is allowing him to strain at the leash for God’s purposes – which might well be to alert the apostate churches to the fact that Jesus is coming again and they must repent. Jesus did not come to begin a bloated organisation such as the CofE, which has long been flying in the face of His commands and neglecting what they should be doing. The true church (the ekklesia) is likened in Scripture to a human body, a living organism, interdependent and fully functioning, with CHRIST as its head.

        The rise of atheism/materialism is only aiding and abetting the rise of Islam in the west. If only atheists realised this, and understood that they will one day be held accountable for ushering in a noxious totalitarian political ideology in place of Jesus Christ. It is said that nature abhors a vacuum. But there is no such thing as a spiritual vacuum. Either the true or the false will be what an individual will believe in.

        “But if you refuse to serve the LORD, then choose today whom you will serve. Would you prefer the gods your ancestors served beyond the Euphrates? Or will it be the gods of the Amorites in whose land you now live? But as for me and my family, we will serve the LORD.”
        (Joshua 24:15)

        • cjk says

          May 31, 2015 at 4:31 pm

          It’s like you didn’t read what I said.

    • tony says

      May 30, 2015 at 1:30 pm

      here is what I think of your little demon god,, in arabic so you can understand

      الله هو الشيطان

    • abad says

      May 30, 2015 at 4:01 pm

      Get outta my country Rezali back to Tehran with you

    • No Fear says

      May 31, 2015 at 1:21 am

      HEIL MOHAMMED !

      SIEG HEIL !

      SIEG HEIL !

      SIEG HEIL !

    • Shane says

      May 31, 2015 at 10:02 am

      We will not let you Muslim savages take over the USA. Just look at what happened in Phoenix, AZ. Americans showed drawings of Muhammad to Muslims coming out of a mosque, and the cowardly Muslims did nothing, because our people were heavily armed.

    • AN American says

      May 31, 2015 at 10:29 am

      You’ll find out what you need to know about the Second Amendment soon enough

    • sooz22 says

      May 31, 2015 at 4:39 pm

      You are f—–g scum.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 1, 2015 at 10:04 am

      To Rezali Mehil- Greetings. I first off want you to know that I had a family obligation and haven’t read your 5:42 am May 30 post til now. Second, Rezali I know you are a person, but sometimes you are so mechanical in your comments about Islam, it makes me think you are actually a robot similar to “Hal” in “2001: A Space Odyssey”. Third, I am flattered that you mentioned me, Champ, and Carolyne in that post regarding a man’s smooth upper lip. For your information, I like a smooth upper lip, but I like tongue more. Have a good one.

    • Western Canadian says

      Jun 3, 2015 at 1:33 am

      No more cartoons etc?? Perfect example of how utterly stupid and dishonest a truly devout muslim is….. This days articles includes info on another such gathering….. muslims: becoming ever more stupid, for 1400 years.

  2. Dave Quilty says

    May 30, 2015 at 6:39 am

    NY Times is Sharia-compliant. Every citation of the Times should say say “the Sharia-compliant NY Times.”

  3. duh_swami says

    May 30, 2015 at 6:54 am

    Terrorism only works on those too cowardly to stand up to it. They instead become appeasers, who’s motto is, ‘please don’t hurt me’…It’s always better to just give the bully your lunch money and hope he doesn’t beat you anyway. Cowards tried that in WW2, and a lot of people died for it. You cannot appease Allah, in the end, he will force you to drink boiling water, even if you have been an appeaser or even a pious Mahoundian.
    Once the ‘please don’t hurt me’ begging begins, the beggar is stuck with it, and becomes essentially useless. That’s where the ‘Times’ is at along with dozens of others…There’s nothing like a cartoon contest to separate the patriots from the cowards…

    • Gary says

      May 30, 2015 at 9:51 am

      AMEN!

      The Anderson Copper’s of the West will continue to ignore the threat Islam presents to the world. I will never submit!

      If Christ has set you free, you are free indeed!

      “For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!”

      Romans 8:15

  4. Paul says

    May 30, 2015 at 6:57 am

    Wonder what may be next on the agenda for those brave and rebellious
    souls at the New York Times. Maybe it will run an art competition satirising
    Buddhists or the Amish community, or perhaps something mocking
    vegetarianism?

    • No Fear says

      May 31, 2015 at 4:41 am

      If they start mocking vegetarianism I will strap a copy of “Vegan Necromicon” to my chest and self detonate for the cause.

      • Paul says

        May 31, 2015 at 9:05 am

        LOL

  5. Infidel from Down Under says

    May 30, 2015 at 7:28 am

    The chance of Catholics militants offended by the depiction of the Virgin Mary attacking the New York Times offices or staff = Next to NIL

    The risk of Islamic jihadists offended by a depiction of the Prophet Mohammad attacking the New York Times or staff = Extremely High

    This explains a lot I think !!

  6. Rev. Albert W. Kovacs - UCC says

    May 30, 2015 at 7:39 am

    Today’s New York Times has stooped to such a low level that it’s old motto now reads, “All the news that’s s**t we print.” – Its former quite unbiased reporting of the really important news has given way to slanted versions. It is no longer “the” class of journalism, but a “spoiled virgin” totally lacking its former integrity. It has become one of the brides of Mohammed’s Islam . Who needs it?

    • abad says

      May 30, 2015 at 4:11 pm

      To be honest – the NY Times is the most liberal newspaper I’ve ever read in my entire life. I bet every Muslim in the USA has a subscription to it…….I know I don’t…..

  7. Ellie says

    May 30, 2015 at 8:17 am

    The “Christians” and “conservatives” of pre WWII showed so much respect to Hitler and the fundamentalist Islam that they allowed millions of Jews to go silently to their deaths. Hitler united with the fundamentalist Muslims during WWII. The Germans of WWI Germany also united with the fundamentalists. Anytime a despot is willing to fight for tyranny Islam is right there willing to help.
    We owe no more respect to fundamentalist Islam than we do to Hitler BUT the leftists who are now in power in the United States are in lock step with Nazi policies.They have no problem with Hitler or any other leftist regime that has slaughtered millions in order to obtain their tyrannical “utopia.”

    • cjk says

      May 30, 2015 at 1:17 pm

      You are a liar. True Christians showed no respect to Hitler. The isolationists of the time are not anything like the conservatives of today nor those before the war. Your further deception of excepting Jews of any guilt is also destroyed by the reality of history, read some and open your eyes.

    • deja vu says

      May 30, 2015 at 10:23 pm

      Ellie, could you explain your understanding of what it means to be a Christian?

  8. Peter Buckley says

    May 30, 2015 at 9:31 am

    Since this is a clear case of double standards, why not organise a boycott of NYT and its sponsors? Maybe hitting them in the pocket is the only way to get them to do the right thing……

    • ninetyninepct says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:14 am

      It seems that they are requesting a few pressure cookers in their offices, after all, their friends use them. Surely they wouldn’t complain, after all, they can’t possibly be “racist”.

  9. vlparker says

    May 30, 2015 at 9:39 am

    The hypocrisy is amazing. Now this is gratuitous. There was a good reason for the Mo cartoons. The only reason for this is to insult.

  10. Edward says

    May 30, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Sticks and stones may break my bones…
    But inference will never hurt me. – Blessed Virgin Mary’s innate personality.

    “Not fear of violent reprisal, but fear of “causing offense.” So why does Ofili’s dung-clotted Virgin Mary get a pass?”…Robert Spencer

    “Because no one will kill you over it.” – Robert Spencer

    Why? The loving Blessed Virgin Mother doesn’t want anyone get hurt over her. It would be below her DIGNITY if anyone was!

    In contrast:
    The so called rogue prophet had no dignity; he wanted to have everybody killed because he was (is) offended.

    The example of his behavioral psychology:

    “However, it remains true that oversensitivity to verbal [or visual] insults displays a lack of mental maturity or lack of social interaction. In the growth of young adults, participation in insulting banter leads to bonding. If a person grows up without these relationships they may take insults too close to heart, leading to a cyclical feeling of pain and oversensitivity to insults—even as jokes.”
    – wikipedia

    • ninetyninepct says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:22 am

      Does anyone really care if mo – HAM – ed or islam is offended? We aren’t muzzies and are not required to follow their ignorant pig rules.

      Hey mehil – OINK OINK. PS: what the hell is this “noor” crap? Is that OINK in muzzie? Are you “offended”? Handle it princess.

  11. Dan says

    May 30, 2015 at 10:18 am

    Y’ know?

    For the n y times to NOT be able to see the hypocrisy of their ways means one of two things.

    The liberal brain is wired so completely different it can never be changed; like pedophiles and psychopaths.

    Or they believe they see some kind of “Writing on the wall” (A saying of Biblical origin by the way.) and are in the first stages of capitulation/butt kissing to save said butt.

  12. Joseph says

    May 30, 2015 at 10:47 am

    test

    • Joseph says

      May 30, 2015 at 10:49 am

      Sorry I couldn’t post for two days, anyone else have this problem?

  13. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    May 30, 2015 at 10:56 am

    Falsehood has gone out of control in modern Western society. It used to be that a lying hypocrite or an especially egregious dumbass got the treatment where he was no longer invited, no longer taken seriously, no listened to at all. That was the check and balance on public discourse: accountability for one’s sayings and deeds.

    But that is no longer the case. We have a president who was caught lying in order to win an election, and he still polls near 50%. We have university professors laying all manner of incredible claptrap but they are protected by tenure to preserve their free speech, on campuses where free speech is quasi-legally proscribed by the same lying professors. We even now have fake science, where 4/10ths of one percent of all greenhouse gases is calculated to be the main reflector of all types of greenhouse gases, and it just so happens that carbon is the main byproduct of the world’s energy but. Global warming was forced into a name change by decades of mistaken computer modeling and 18 yrs of global cooling… not because the fraud was outed and generally acknowledged by all, as would have been the case back in the day, but because the same group of frauds, grant-seeking college science professors, figured out that there is a difference between weather and climate (forget the decades of now proven errors).

    Where and when there is no accountability, Moslems thrive. Their belief system subsists on forceful obfuscation, even under the penalty of death if one fails to observe the obtrusive rules of the man our news entertainers call the Prophet Mohammed, when the guy was a thief, murderer and sex-slave trader. Yet somehow, Moslems seem to be the most realistic people of all nowadays; at least they are focused on their single purpose.

    We are lost in the absence of truth, in a clutter of ignored facts, in a fog of fictive realities.

    • ninetyninepct says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:28 am

      Well said Pig Farmer – you mention climate change and carbon. Could it be that most of the “carbon pollution” is the result of humans getting burnt alive by islam? Clinton, gore, steyer, akbar obamidiot and the tides foundation should strongly support efforts to stop muslims causing climate change.

    • somehistory says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:53 am

      You’re right again, as usual. And as for the *climate* thing, muslims also have nonsense as a large part of their *science*…which can’t be science because of the true meaning of the word “science”…their thinking on the shape of earth, where the *sun goes*, etc. Perhaps the ones pushing the climate nonsense and using their epa power-grabbing to take over rain puddles, is all just trying to get everyone accustomed to the idea that science is no longer truth, but what islam says it is.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        May 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm

        Don’t forget they have what they call the science of the Koran. This is eerily similar to scientific socialism. Karl Marx was a fraud who forged economic numbers taken from the good record keepers supervised by the Exchequer. But the Holy Prophet was no fraud, he was straightforward about he was up to. When he threatened murder he made good on his numbers. I think the Holy Prophet woulda been displeased to learn about the science of the Koran that sprouted up after his death. Forget the science stuff, just keep count of the corpses and lopped off limbs.

        • somehistory says

          May 30, 2015 at 1:40 pm

          There are far too many. Counting makes me angry and it makes me sad beyond belief.
          I trust in my God to make things right soon.

  14. mortimer says

    May 30, 2015 at 11:14 am

    A newspaper is a money-making business and the NYT is all the news that’s fit to make money.

    Ethics rarely make money. Getting killed by terrorists doesn’t make money. Hiring dozens of armed guards 24/7 won’t make money.

    Inconsistent? Heck, yeah.

    If you want consistent, accurate reporting of Islam, support Robert Spencer. The NYT isn’t doing it. Shame.

    • ninetyninepct says

      May 30, 2015 at 11:31 am

      Does anyone get the impression that the nyt is on their knees hoping to join mo in a bj? They might be giving us the wrong impression, could they not, or is their support of Islamic terrorism deliberate?

  15. somehistory says

    May 30, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    The editors say they “do not normally publish images or other material deliberately intended to offend religious sensibilities”

    How often does it take to be *normal* in their publishing? Since this isn’t the first time they have published the painting, could this sentence as to *why* they wouldn’t publish the cartoons be a whole truckload of less than truth? Lies and hypocrisy usually hold hands as lies are needed to try to hide the hypocrisy.

    At one time, the NYT would have been a reliable *source* for use in writing a paper. It should lose this respectability. If they choose not to publish the cartoons and say it is to avoid *offending religious sensibilities,* one can only believe this if they refused to publish a photo of the disgusting painting that was designed to offend.

    Christ instructed John, while dying, to care for His mother, Mary (John 19:26,27), saying, ‘See, your mother.”
    Not all of us who follow Christ as Lord are Catholic, but we should all have respect and love for Mary as the one chosen by God to give birth to Jesus and care for Him.
    The painting is an insult. And the NY times knows it full well. They know full well they can offend Christians and not be beheaded or shot for doing so. They should take into account what God may have in store for their future, but evidently, they don’t believe in Him any more than they respect Him or the wonderful things He has done..

  16. Deborah says

    May 30, 2015 at 12:19 pm

    The last time I saw the dung Virgin Mary painting in the NYT, they were quite bizarrely using it to illustrate an article about the riots over the Danish Muhammad cartoons.

  17. Agatha Munter says

    May 30, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    Well, Mary was Jewish and Muhammed was Muslim. Mary’s people believe in free speech and free expression. Muhammed’s people believe in torture and murder for free speech and free expression.

  18. Davegreybeard says

    May 30, 2015 at 2:28 pm

    I have the greatest respect for Robert Spencer’s scholarship of Islam and his great courage at exposing it to the world. We need many more like him.

    And this article exposing the cowardice of the NYT is right on target.

    But where on Jihad Watch is the article on Jon Ritzheimer and the “cartoon contest” in Phoenix ? Should it not be here, up for comment?

    We desperately need every freedom fighter in this war against evil, so where is the article on Jon?

  19. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    “NYT runs dung-caked Mary painting again, won’t run Muhammad cartoons”.

    That’s the Jihadist’s Mentality of the Apparently – Pro Islam, Pro Muslim, Anti Christian – Mainly Liberal New York Times.

    The NYT apparently is, like much else in America is becoming, under Islam’s Muslim Influence, thanks MAINLY to America’s LEADERSHIP, which IS America’s VERY Apparent Pro Islam, Pro Muslim, VERY seemingly Anti America, Anti Constitution, Anti Christian, Anti Israel – “Imperial” Potus – Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., through HIS OWN Words, Actions, and Deeds.

    REMEMBER Obama’s OWN DOCUMENTED Words “Islam has always been part of America”, “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”, “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”, “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.” – and there are even MORE such Pro Islam, Put Down America, Anti Christian Statements from Obama.

    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=15200 “40 Mind-Blowing Quotes From Barack Hussein Obama On Islam And Christianity When someone shows you who they are, believe them”.

  20. voegelinian says

    May 30, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    The em-dashed editorial remark by Spencer is apt by itself, but neglects to add a crucial ingredient – indeed, the crucial ingredient: the group which the NYT (and by extension the entire mainstream West) if afraid of offending is perceived by them as an Ethnic People (or as a wonderful diversity of Ethnic Peoples). The elephant dung Mary is fine, because most Christians are perceived by the mainstream to be White People and Christianity a White Western Culture (with the millions of non-white Christians around the world considered to be Honorary Whites). And, according to the PC MC paradigm of the mainstream West, it’s okay to insult, mock, demean, critique, and condemn whites and white culture all the livelong day merrily and freely; but it’s the #1 Worst Crime to even approach the faintest whiff of saying anything negative about an Ethnic People.

    As this is the #1 reason why the mainstream West remains stubbornly myopic to the problem of Islam, you’d think it would deserve a mention now and then on Jihad Watch. I did see it once recently, in the Jamie Glazov video of his speech at the Eagle Forum of California State Conference posted here a couple of days ago, in which he emphatically zeroed in on the fear of racism as a major factor in the West’s PC MC; but its central, crucial, overwhelming importance deserves repeated mention.

    The Glazov video:
    the Eagle Forum of California State Conference

    • voegelinian says

      May 30, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      ” the group which the NYT (and by extension the entire mainstream West) if afraid of offending”

      that “if” should be an “is”

      The Glazov video:

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/video-jamie-glazov-on-medias-willful-blindness-about-islam

  21. jewdog says

    May 30, 2015 at 3:37 pm

    My daughter and I were snorkeling one afternoon when we saw a big barracuda. Instead of admitting that she was scared after she climbed back in the boat, she said that she had a stomach ache. The Times should at least admit that they are too afraid to do right by their mission as an agent of the free press.

  22. Red Bee says

    May 31, 2015 at 6:55 am

    The article in the New York Times states Pamela Geller said she planned to pursue legal action.

    In this case I think this is a bad idea because she plays into the hand of the Islamic Propaganda Machine. The tactics of the IPM include creating confusion, evading the real topic and accusing the opposition of bigotry. It did so successfully in the discussion about the Garland exhibition. Much of the debate was about whether or not the AFDI was only seeking to create controversy. They will do the same thing again.

    If Pamela Geller goes to fight the decision to “suspend[ed] all issue-oriented advertising in the public transit system because of fears that granting a request to display a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammad would make the region’s buses and trains “a target.” it is easy for the IPM to create an enormous amount of confusion. The cartoon, though not offensive to non-Muslims, is to be displayed in the public domain. The court may rule against that. That would be a loss Pamela Geller can’t afford. She will be branded a bigot and be grilled in the media because the opposition seems to be backed up by a court decision.

    Before protesting the decision of the transit systems board the ad campaign should be changed in such a way the argument of unnecessarily offending other peoples religion can’t be used. It could for instance, focus on the refusal of the media to show the cartoon.

    The campaign in its present form is a very bad play. It probably will not win; the discussion in the media will go along the same lines as after the Garland incident attacking Pamela Geller. Loosing in court would be a disaster and is a risk that should not be taken.

  23. Ninetyninepct says

    May 31, 2015 at 11:23 am

    I looked carefully at the painting, and it is NOT the Virgin Mary, it is obviously misnamed. It is either Chris Ofili’s mother or his boyfriend in drag, in a poor imitation of a burka. It could also be an attempt to display Mohamed and if I were a muslim, I would be declaring a fatwa against Chris Ofili. Looking again, it is almost certainly a pathetic and insulting picture of Mohamed, covered in pig dung. Following previous muslim reactions to drawings like this of Mohamed, we could easily expect that Chris Ofili would take extra care showing himself in public.Chris Ofili and the New York Times are treading on very dangerous territory. Even the employees of the NYT should be very aware. Displaying insulting drawings of Mohamed covered in pig dung by their employer likely also makes them targets of known terror supporters like CAIR. The NYT, not a good or safe place to work, I would imagine. If I worked there I would be updating my resume and definitely NOT placing much emphasis on my NYT employment.

  24. Ninetyninepct says

    May 31, 2015 at 11:37 am

    This is almost certainly a drawing of Mohamed as he spent time in the desert, getting a deep tan. The NYT likely has islamist extremists on staff based on their strong support of Islamic based terrorism. NYT subscribers should be aware that their personal information is probably available to extremists who would be offended by drawings of Mohamed covered in pig dung. If I were a subscriber, I would be immediately cancelling my subscription to show that I DO NOT support depicting Mohamed covered in pig dung. Continuing a subscription says they support showing Mohamed covered in pig shit.

  25. Andrew H. says

    May 31, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    The Times has become more dung caked itself each year of late. Also, it has become increasingly irrelevant.

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