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Obama: “I don’t think we’re losing” fight against the Islamic State

May 21, 2015 9:35 pm By Robert Spencer

Obama smokingHe won’t name the enemy. He won’t allow his intelligence services to study its ideology. His Pentagon releases falsified maps that obscure the enemy’s gains. The enemy captures a city that has been called the key to controlling all of Iraq (Ramadi) and an renowned archaeological treasure (Palmyra in Syria) in a single week, and he insists we are not losing.

Fastasy-based analysis from the President: “Obama: We’re definitely not ‘losing’ in Iraq – ISIS storming into Ramadi was just a ‘setback’ and it would be a mistake to send in U.S. ground troops,” by Francesca Chambers, Dailymail.com, May 21, 2015:

President Barack Obama echoed the many claims of his administration officials in an interview released today and said that the fall of Ramadi is a mere ‘setback.’

‘No, I don’t think we’re losing,’ the president told The Atlantic in the Tuesday interview. ‘There’s no doubt there was a tactical setback,’ he said, but ‘Ramadi had been vulnerable for a very long time.’

The president dug in his heels and said he would not send in U.S. ground troops to defend the war-torn country. Last time the U.S. came to the rescue, the Iraqi government ‘squandered’ the country’s new found freedom, he said, by refusing to reach out to to different sects of the population.

‘If the Iraqis themselves are not willing or capable to arrive at the political accommodations necessary to govern, if they are not willing to fight for the security of their country, we cannot do that for them,’ Obama told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

The president’s comments to Goldberg, made on Tuesday, underscore the executive branch’s position that retaining control of Ramadi isn’t mission critical, even though it is situated less than two hours west of the country’s population center, Baghdad.

While they would prefer that it had not fallen to ISIS over the weekend, the failure to protect it, to them, doesn’t indicate that the president’s ‘overall’ strategy in the region needs revision.

The White House again said this afternoon that a deployment of 10,000 to 15,000 ground troops, as some Republicans, including GOP presidential candidate Lindsey Graham, have suggested is not an option that’s currently on the table.

Iraq veteran and Illinois Representative Adam Kinzinger told his colleagues yesterday that in order to defeat the terrorist group, ‘we need to use the number of troops and the amount of military force necessary…and not just necessary to follow the President’s promise of “no troops on the ground.” ‘

‘I don’t think we need another 200,000 troops in Iraq, and I haven’t heard a single person actually ever suggest that, but we need to use what is necessary to push this back.’…

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  1. Angemon says

    May 21, 2015 at 9:45 pm

    ‘No, I don’t think we’re losing,’ the president told The Atlantic in the Tuesday interview.

    And he surprised no one by doing so. He said the islamic state was like a JV team so there’s no way he’ll go back on his word. And if the US have to send more troops to the ME, he’ll make sure they’ll wear sandals, slippers and flip-flops just so he can say he didn’t went back on his word of not putting more boots on the ground.

    • Robert M. Paris says

      May 21, 2015 at 10:23 pm

      I am reminded of the words of John Paul Jones on being offered the chance to surrender by the British Commander Serapis, Jones replied, “I have not yet begun to fight.” At which point his first officer said under his breath, “That explains why we are losing.”

    • Rev g says

      May 21, 2015 at 11:02 pm

      He doesn’t think we’re losing, he knows it.

  2. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 21, 2015 at 9:47 pm

    “White House denies that the Islamic State has established a caliphate, insists it has lost territory” – Link: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/white-house-denies-that-the-islamic-state-has-established-a-caliphate-insists-it-has-lost-territory

    TYPICAL White House and Obama Administration – being so apparently Pro Islam, and Pro Muslim, with a seemingly “Imperial” Potus, who makes DOCUMENTED Statements such as:
    1. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”.
    2. “Islam has always been part of America”.
    3. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”.
    4. “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”.
    5. “The Islamic State is not Islamic”.
    6. AND “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”.
    et. al. – of course the White House WILL Defend Islam, and DENY an Islamic State Caliphate.

    Links:
    http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=15200 – “Obama’s Alarming Quotes”.
    http://allenbwest.com/2014/04/obamas-40-alarming-quotes-islam-christianity/
    http://www.youngcons.com/40-mind-blowing-quotes-from-barack-obama-about-islam-and-christianity/
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2014/09/11/obama-says-the-islamic-state-is-not-islamic-americans-are-inclined-to-disagree/

    • John C. Barile says

      May 22, 2015 at 10:40 am

      Let’s not forget Imam Ubama’s most definitive declaration: “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet.”

  3. profitsbeard says

    May 21, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Treason is his reason.

    Lies are his disguise.

    • Lioness says

      May 22, 2015 at 10:12 am

      When he is no longer the president, Hussein Obama can go to Syria and openly join ISIS as their PR man, something he has been doing unofficially for the past few years.

  4. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 21, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    “White House denies that the Islamic State has established a caliphate, insists it has lost territory”

    TYPICAL White House and Obama Administration – being so apparently Pro Islam, and Pro Muslim, with a seemingly “Imperial” Potus, who makes DOCUMENTED Statements such as:
    1. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”.
    2. “Islam has always been part of America”.
    3. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”.
    4. “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”.
    5. “The Islamic State is not Islamic”.
    6. AND “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”.
    et. al. – of course the White House WILL Defend Islam, and DENY an Islamic State Caliphate.

    • Don McKellar says

      May 21, 2015 at 10:13 pm

      Well, let’s grade Obama accurately…

      1. “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.” THE FOUNDING FATHERS NEVER CONSIDERED THE UNITED STATES A CHRISTIAN NATION — BECAUSE IT IS NOT. CORRECT

      2. “Islam has always been part of America”. YES, RIGHT FROM THE START OF AMERICA ITS TRADE WAS ATTACKED BY BARBARY COAST PIRATES ON JIHAD. CORRECT

      3. “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.” WRONG. INCORRECT.

      4. “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.” IT IS NOT BECAUSE HE REFUSES TO BE, BUT ISLAM IS AT WAR WITH AMERICA. 1/2 MARK, PARTIALLY CORRECT

      5. “The Islamic State is not Islamic”. WRONG. INCORRECT.

      6. AND “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”. Obviously. CORRECT.

      OBAMA’S SCORE: 3.5 out of 6 = 58%
      Ironically, this is his average in college, while leaning on affirmative action to get into Harvard. But of course, we’re not allowed to see his college transcripts.

  5. Xero_G says

    May 21, 2015 at 10:09 pm

    I can’t wait for the shrill, lying, corrupt, charmless, accomplishment-free Hillary to replace Obama. She’s got a Y chromosome – and that apparently qualifies her to be Commander in Chief.

  6. Arthur says

    May 21, 2015 at 11:49 pm

    While I’m no fan of Obama, I would agree that the USA cannot instill in the Iraqi people a sense of unity and nationality simply by coming in and destroying the Islamic State. These tribal-based societies only seem to be united by the force of a dictator, not of their own desire for national identity.

    So it would seem to me that, without its dictator, Iraq is a helpless country doomed to fall apart. But, on the other hand, the Islamic State would appear to be a non-sustainable entity. It will fail financially due to trade restrictions, a lack of recognition from its neighbors, and, most importantly, its naive attempt at 7th century self-governance. You can’t kill off half your citizenry, abolish scientific education for believers, chase off and kill all knowledge-bearing non-believers, be at war on all fronts, and still expect to have a productive society capable of feeding itself. It’s like a naive hippie commune, but with violence where the hippies had ‘peace and love’.

    I suspect the Islamic State, if kept contained and unable to sell oil or steal from its neighbors, will simply collapse in on itself after a short time. And out of that chaotic mess will arise a new sociopathic dictator who will rule in the same way Saddam Hussein did.

    I would support US intervention to evacuate non-Muslims who reject the Islamic ideology of supremacy and murder, but I really don’t see any long term benefit in the US shoring up another doomed national government in that area. I think our service men and women should defend our country, not die defending an ungrateful imaginary democracy over people who don’t share US ideology. I’m not an isolationist, but I don’t see retaking Iraqi cities as a winning strategy for our national safety back in the US.

    What a tar baby these middle east conflicts are!

    • Rooare says

      May 22, 2015 at 4:04 pm

      I agree with most of your comment, yet there is always someone that will do business with anyone if they believe a profit can be made.

    • Eternal Vigilance says

      May 22, 2015 at 10:18 pm

      I do not see much difference between ISIS and Nazi Germany! They each perfected bestialities beyond civilized imagination, murdered Christians (including Catholic clergy), homosexuals, prisoners, prisoners of war, children, the aged and the impaired. AND, each thieved their way across foreign lands stealing the wealth of banks, oil fields, military equipment, and even forced captured citizens to join their fighting ranks. Of course, the Nazi’s did fight in uniform with faces uncovered but then we could not expect that from crude desert rats. Nazism, Islamism….all the same!

      However, the Nazi’s did not collapse on their own and, given the one uniting factor for all the Mideast, the HATRED OF THE JEWS, I seriously doubt that ISIS and the like will disappear any time in the distant future. World War !! required ‘REAL” coalitions to be won. Obama’s mid-east coalition to fight ISIS is just a subterfuge!

      • Arthur says

        May 23, 2015 at 12:16 am

        Good points, but I still don’t understand what victory for the US will look like. The Islamic State is just a reformed, honest version of Islam. While Islam remains, I would expect this violent supremacist ideology to continue to spring up from the masses of Muslims. Islam seems a regressive force that erodes all civilizations with which it comes in contact. We would have to eradicate Islam from the area, much like Spain eradicated Islam during the Inquisition, if we expect a lasting stable peace in the Middle East. I don’t see anyone proposing that.

    • Karen says

      May 23, 2015 at 9:33 pm

      A brilliant and thoughtful analysis. Agreed that no more American soldiers should sacrifice for a military and population unwilling/unable to unite in their own self interest. My heart goes out to the helpless in Iraq and Syria, but with the realization that this is their fight. And it’s a desperate one.

      Two concerns; will the world contain ISIS and dry up it’s income, or wimp out? Will the new dictator be a 50s-style nationalist (i.e., enforced pluralism, like it or not Mr. Imam), or an Islamist? Unfortunately, the later is more likely.

  7. mortimer says

    May 22, 2015 at 12:16 am

    Arabs are showing that with their primitive tribalism, they are too primitive to rule anything…even a waterhole in the desert.

    The Arabs are proving how uncivilized and dysfunctional Islam really is.

    Even they won’t defend their own country, they don’t deserve to have one.

  8. Sabri S. says

    May 22, 2015 at 1:21 am

    Yes you are losing Kaffir! US….and the smart global citizens know it.
    Here is a novel idea…get the hell out of muslim countries and take your
    Puppet governments with you…everyone of them from Pakistan to Egypt
    to Chechnya and beyond hate you and your occupation of their l ands….
    get the hel, out….even if you have to be blown out…allah u akbar!!!!!!.

    • Infidel from Down Under says

      May 22, 2015 at 1:59 am

      Well lets do a deal ,western aligned countries and their citizens get of muslim countries , while ALL muslims unconditionally leave western countries like the US ,the EU and Australia and take their Korans .Halal , hatred and stone age culture with them.We will draw a line in the sand and if muslims dare cross it they will face the consequences,that being the full force of western military might

      Sounds fair to me

    • Supporting The Truth says

      May 22, 2015 at 3:35 am

      Alhamdulilah Allah is reviving his Ummah (Nation) we are taking back our superiority no matter if the kaafirs like it or not.

      The Messager PBUH HAS SPOKE THE TRUTH THE VICTORY IS WITH THE BELIEVERS.

      So of courses Obama and all of his dogs have to sit back and watch there plot unfold right before there eyes.

      • John C. Barile says

        May 22, 2015 at 10:51 am

        In the first place, you have no superiority in any human or Divine endeavor to take back. In the realm of wanton killing, crimes against women and society, and of barbarism and destruction, there you find your Islamic State and its hell-bent caliph.

      • Angemon says

        May 22, 2015 at 3:09 pm

        Supporting The Truth posted:

        “Alhamdulilah Allah is reviving his Ummah (Nation) we are taking back our superiority no matter if the kaafirs like it or not.”

        Don’t worry, kid. There’s virtually no contest for all the things islam is superior in – child abuse, FGM, “honour” killings, poverty and ignorance, etc.

    • Jack Gordon says

      May 22, 2015 at 7:17 am

      Please, Mr. Sabri S., your inferior Mohammedan education is showing! You jihadi ink-bombers have simply got to understand that your pidgin English totally undermines your case. I see the all but incomprehensible rubbish you people dump all over the Internet and it only convinces me that followers of the Great Desert Pervert truly are as stupid as most Westerners deem them to be. So, amigo Sabri, it’s up off the dusty old prayer rug and back to the language lab for some practice. Remember, we all understand you types are slaves thanks to your beliefs; don’t let us find out that things are actually even worse, that you are stupid slaves.

    • Angemon says

      May 22, 2015 at 3:07 pm

      Sabri S. posted:

      “Here is a novel idea…get the hell out of muslim countries and take your
      Puppet governments with you
      ”

      The irony here is that it was Westerners who dragged muslim countries out of the 7th century. If it were not for Westerners, most, if not all, European countries would be like 7th century arabia. Anyway, didn’t the US departed from Iraq and Syria? How’s that working out?

      But here’s a novel idea: get your coreligionists out of Western countries and stay the hell out. There’s around 50 million of them in Europe alone – exactly how many Westerners are there in muslim shitholes worldwide? They’re willing to risk their lives to get out of whatever islamic shithole (lol,islamic shithole,talk about a pleonasm!) to break in into Western countries. How many Westerners are risking their lives to get into muslim countries? The answer is, of course, none. Unless it’s to do something like the killing of bin laden or that guy from the islamic state, recently.

      Must suck to be them. Whenever there’s a buzzing sound from above they probably crap their pants, not knowing if it’s a large sized fly (because of all the shit around they tend to grow quote big) or a drone with their name in it 😀

  9. Dave Smith says

    May 22, 2015 at 2:29 am

    Didn’t Germany defeat France in 6 weeks? The world can’t beat ISIS in 6 months?

  10. logdon says

    May 22, 2015 at 6:51 am

    As usual the redoubtable Raymond Ibrahim nails it.

    http://www.raymondibrahim.com/other-matters/obamas-policies-to-empower-isis-exposed/

    How does he get away with it?

  11. Stephen Rohaty says

    May 22, 2015 at 8:53 am

    This reminds me of the civilian in nazi Germany who commented, “I notice that each of our latest victories has been closer to Berlin.”

  12. Cindy says

    May 22, 2015 at 9:46 am

    This guy is clueless. He doesn’t know what is going on in the world, and doesn’t seem to care. He just takes this like little kids playing in a sand box, what the hell is this man thinking???? He is so dangerously out of touch it is scarey. And what does he have on folks around him that no one else seems to speak up or try to do things to stop this crazy way the man thinks and I use the term man loosely. His wife is more of a man than he is but she not right. And she thinks she is always right. She thinks everyone should listen to her for she knows how everyone should eat sleep go to the bathroom. I say give it up and leave us alone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Rooare says

      May 22, 2015 at 4:11 pm

      I wish he were just clueless but my real fear is he knows exactly what he is doing.

  13. GFWSR says

    May 22, 2015 at 10:41 am

    I think obummer is still smokin’ dope!

  14. Mo says

    May 22, 2015 at 10:54 am

    “‘No, I don’t think we’re losing,’ ”

    Of course this traitor Obama would say that. The side he roots for is winning!

  15. Liam1304 says

    May 22, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    ‘If the Iraqis themselves are not willing or capable to arrive at the political accommodations necessary to govern, if they are not willing to fight for the security of their country, we cannot do that for them,’ Obama told The Atlantic’s Jeffrey Goldberg.

    This means that we will soon see the dismantling of NATO as we now have it. Dominated as it is by the huge American investment of money, weapons and people. The European nations can now “fight for the security of their [own] country” right?

    Imagine the billions saved and the redeployment opportunities for those in the armed forces! Why they could go to the Eastern border of Israel Mr Obama.

    Yeah. Right.

  16. melvin polatnick says

    May 23, 2015 at 10:16 am

    Billions of US/CIA bucks supported and funded ISIS, they are there to create chaos and destroy nationalism.
    Low intelligence is the Arab and African basic problem, they will always remain in the 14th century. Sterilization is the humane solution for a warlike and retarded continent of savages.

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