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Pakistan: Muslims tell Christian, “stop building churches or we will kill you”

May 11, 2015 12:14 pm By Robert Spencer

Javed DavidWhat, then, should Javed David do in the face of this violent intimidation? He should stop building churches, right? Because if he continues to build churches, he will offend Muslims, and be needlessly provocative. Right? That is what the mainstream media has been telling us in the wake of our Muhammad cartoon contest: it offended Muslims and was needlessly provocative, even inciting the Muslim killers who came to it in order to commit mass murder.

So if Javed David builds another church, he will be inciting the Muslims to violence, and he will be responsible for what he gets, right? He’s asking for it, right? After all, he knows it offends them. He knows they will kill over it. So if he builds another church, he’d just be poking them in the eye, right?

People who dislike our event because it focused on the Muhammad cartoons are missing the point: if free people don’t push back on the points where they are being threatened and menaced, they are only inviting more threats and menace. If we give on the Motoons and stop drawing them, we will have established the precedent that adopting Sharia and giving in to violence is right and proper. That will lead to what Javed David is facing. Will those Christians who are criticizing us for insulting Muhammad and Islam wake up to what is really going on when they are in his position, and are threatened with death for the crime of building a new church?

“Pakistani Christian leader receives threats, told to ‘stop building churches or we will kill you,’” by Shafique Khokhar, AsiaNews, May 11, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Lahore (AsiaNews) – For the past three months, Javed David, a Christian leader in Lahore, has been receiving death threats from a group of unidentified people because of his involvement in the construction of several churches in the area.

Three of his associates – John Akram, Ata-ur-Rehman and Saman Joy Alexander – have also been threatened. David is president of a Christian association, ‘Hope for the Light Ministries’.

The latest incident occurred on 4 April, the day before Easter, but the Christian leader spoke to AsiaNews about only today.

“I had been to church in Sheikhupura to attend a meeting with colleagues,” he said. “It was 8 o’clock in the evening when we left to return to Lahore. We were about to reach the main road when a motorbike drove up and blocked the way. Maybe they were following us. The two bikers were wearing a helmet. One of them came up to my window and spoke to me. ‘We know what you are doing here,’ he said. ‘Stop building churches. Convert to Islam, which is the true religion. Otherwise we will make a horrible example of you.”

A similar incident occurred on 22 February, after he visited another church under construction. “On that occasion too, I was going home,” he noted, “when a motorcycle stopped in front of me. The driver knocked on the window and threw in a piece of paper. I did not open it before I got home. It said, ‘This is an Islamic nation. We cannot allow church building. Either you convert to Islam or you leave this country! Stop building churches or you’ll pay the consequences!”

Since 2013, David and his associates have helped poor communities build churches. The first one was erected in a village in Shekhupura district. In 2014, they built a second one in Jaranwala district, near Faisalabad. This year, another one is being built, also in Jaranwala district.

“Right now we were shocked and frightened,” Ata-ur-Rehman Saman said. “Previously, when we bought land to build the church in Sheikhupura, we met resistance from some members of the local Muslim community, but then it all worked out. The head of the local madrassa laid the first brick. Both communities live in peace there, although we have seen rising religious intolerance.”

“My family and I are scared and worried because I continue to receive threats,” Javed David said. “Where can we go to enjoy religious freedom? This is our country; we have lived here for generations.”

“After the tragedy in Youhanabad, circumstances have changed and now there is more fear,” he added. “Still, I dedicated my life to Christ and I shall continue to serve His people, no matter what happens.”

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  1. Manuel Paleologus says

    May 11, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    It is exactly what all the Western countries should do to deter the expansion of islam (which is not a religion). When they build a mosque here, a church must be build there.

  2. mortimer says

    May 11, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    American Leftists use this logic: 1) Jihadists will kill if we do ‘X’ 2) Surrender our freedom to do ‘X’.

    The error with that is that the JIHADISTS will be like the crocodile looking for its next dinner.

    Eventually, they will eat the Leftists last.

  3. mortimer says

    May 11, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    Isn’t the following what happened in Garland, Texas?

    “The two bikers were wearing a helmet. One of them came up to my window and spoke to me. ‘We know what you are doing here,’ he said. ‘Stop building churches. Convert to Islam, which is the true religion. Otherwise we will make a horrible example of you.”

    The savages in America are doing what they are doing in every other country where there are Muslims: terrorism.

    Muslim leaders are not stopping the terrorism, so we must stop importing terrorists. There is no visible difference between an ordinary Muslim and a jihadist, so we must stop importing Muslims.

  4. Ricky Black says

    May 11, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    All this tolerance is killing me, no cartoons, no running in races, no bide races, no Churches, no leaving Islam, don’t talk about raping 9 year olds ( like Mohammed ), etc. OKAY is that it?

  5. Ricky Black says

    May 11, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    All this tolerance is killing me

  6. Ricky Black says

    May 11, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    Okay, no cartoons, no running in races, no bike races, no more churches, no leaving Islam, don’t talk about Mohammed raping 9 year olds, stop binging non-muslims… etc. Okay anything else Master?

    • Westman says

      May 11, 2015 at 2:19 pm

      I think this covers it:

      “Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious.” — The one, the only, original, Ayatollah Khomeini of Iran.

      Maybe Islam hates the West because, through its technology, it found a way to make life enjoyable for itself. The West is having too much fun. That creates a tension between what the Ayatollah taught and what Muslims can see through their media of the West.

      The solution to the tension for Muslims is either invade the West and make everyone’s real life inferior to Jannah, or, ultimately get rid of the prophets of doom and start living.

      • spot on says

        May 12, 2015 at 1:25 pm

        Mohammed was left some loopholes by Allah for himself to have a little fun. Wealthy Muslims know these loopholes.

        Also, middle class Muslims today buy naked slave women at the local Saturday slave market. I assume that the slaves are bought naked to determine they are healthy much like cattle are bought and sold. I’m sure they have no fun in mind.

        But I really cannot imagine what Muslim women do for fun. Truly they are slaves, all.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      May 11, 2015 at 10:07 pm

      To stop distressing Muslims so they won’t murder us, the liberals should give up “gay marriage”, sexual freedom, abortion, societal pluralism, and all civil rights (because civil rights applied equally treat kuffar the same as Muslims, which of course will not do).

    • idris adam says

      May 12, 2015 at 12:49 am

      NO, they have many fun, example: kill you, raped your children, burn the church, etc. Okay anything else Master?

  7. RG says

    May 11, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    This is exactly why Christ said, “the Kingdom of God suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force”.

    There are many interpretations for that verse of scripture, but I’ll venture to say that we Christians might do well to stand up to these muzzie thugs and show some resistance. “RESIST THE DEVIL AND HE WILL FLEE FROM YOU”! I once heard a southern preacher say it this way, “Resist the devil and he’ll get the fleas”! AMEN!!!

  8. miriamrove says

    May 11, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    The so called religion of peace!!! First, threats, then killing and then peace. m

    • john spielman says

      May 11, 2015 at 2:08 pm

      islam is a “house divided” and will not stand. Only after the last Sunni kills the last Shia (or vis versa) and the dies will the world be at peace

  9. Byzantine Partisan says

    May 11, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    I agree with the Mohammadans in spirit, if not in action.

  10. arish says

    May 11, 2015 at 2:52 pm

    West is self destructive .When you have not identified your enemy you are dead or will defeated surely Wake up west and fight tooth for tooth.

  11. Marco says

    May 11, 2015 at 3:29 pm

    The wests lack of concern, and hatred of, Christians gives satans minions liscence to attack Christians whenever and wherever all over the world.

  12. Moshe Akiva says

    May 11, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    At first they attack free speech in America and elsewhere, later they will attack American Christians when they build a church. It’s just matter of time. Whatever makes them “sensitive”.

    • spot on says

      May 12, 2015 at 1:32 pm

      They hate all of us and plan to eliminate us the same as Israel. They will do whatever it takes to accomplish that. Since their minds are full of hatred, it will take them longer but they will get there unless we stop them. The only way to stop them is to kill them.

  13. Johnny Pallyswine says

    May 11, 2015 at 5:05 pm

    Pakistan: Fraud of a Muslim country. In 1947, it was a completely new nation. Moreover, its creation was made possible solely because of Muslim invasion. It was Muslims who invaded India, and killed about 60 million Hindus during the thousand-year Muslim rule of India since A.D. 711.
    The creation of Pkstan resulted in 14 million refugees at least 86,000 Hindu women were raped. During the partition between 200,000 to 500,000 people were killed in the retributive genocide.
    Pkstan had 10-15 percent Hindu minority when it was created, now less than 1 percent Hindu. India had 8 percent Islamic, now grown to 15 percent. Where did those Hindus go, what happened to them ?? GENOCIDE. In ONE YEAR alone, 1971, the Paki Army slaughtered an estimated 2.4 MILLION Hindus.. Paki is a TOTALLY illegitimate genocidal state .. AS BAD as Nazi Germany. Created by the BRITISH imperialists to weaken the Independence movement of INDIA. A fake nation based on genocidal ideology of Islamic jihad. Truly, a VIRUS, a CURSE upon the whole planet.

    • Moshe Akiva says

      May 11, 2015 at 5:14 pm

      Johnny, and wouldn’t you say the world is much safer ever since these sick bastards have nukes?

    • Peggy says

      May 11, 2015 at 7:32 pm

      Pakistan, Kosovo, same thing now. Albanians have been encouraged by Hitler to come over the border during WWII and then by Tito (Communist dictator) after war finished. The result is a majority Albanian Muslim Kosovo and now allowed to secede from Serbia an independent country. The west are their own enemy. They keep creating Muslim countries where previously there were none. Bosnia is another example. Ottomans invaded Balkans, ruled for centureies, converted Christian Serbs and to a lesser degree Croatians and presto, we have a Muslim country. The west fought for Bosnia in the 90s. Another example of self harm.

    • Bindon Blood says

      May 12, 2015 at 4:00 pm

      The British created Pakistan out of India at independence ,not before,to try to avoid bloodshed;it is what was demanded by Moslems. The British left too hastily without allowing a re-adjustment period. But everyone,mainly the USA, was pushing Britain to leave. Gandhi knew what would happen,after all before the British India was ruled by Islam and many Indians,Hindus etc., perished. When Britain ruled India they kept the peace between Hindu and Moslem. They remained in the Commonwealth so Moslem Hindu antagonism did not suit Britain at all. Pakistan basically waged instant Jihad on India when Britain left and have carried it on ever since.

  14. voegelinian says

    May 11, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Pakistan: Muslims tell Christian, “stop building churches or we will kill you”
    May 11, 2015 12:14 pm By Robert Spencer 16 Comments
    Robert Spencer comments:

    “What, then, should Javed David do in the face of this violent intimidation? He should stop building churches, right? Because if he continues to build churches, he will offend Muslims, and be needlessly provocative. Right? That is what the mainstream media has been telling us in the wake of our Muhammad cartoon contest…”

    I think Spencer is mixing apples and oranges here. Javed David would have every right to stop building churches, and it would be eminently understandable if he did, given that doing so risks his life from murderous thugs – and not only his own life, but also the lives of his family and friends. Spencer’s spotlight is focusing on Javed David, but it’s not Javed David’s responsibility to stand up to the Muslim thugs by risking his life: it’s the responsibility of those in our society whose job it is to 1) protect the public safety (government, politicians, military, police); and 2) to keep the public informed (news media, academe).

    “Because if he continues to build churches, he will offend Muslims, and be needlessly provocative” is a curious way of putting it. Javed David should not go ahead and build his church just so he can make a point about standing up to Islam. He should be able to build his church because that’s a simple universal human right which the modern world (and much of the pre-modern world) champions. Any connection between his this right of his and Islam is not Javed David’s responsibility, given the violent thuggishness of Muslims – it is the responsibility of those in our society tasked with protecting and informing the public.

    Thus the Javed Davids of the world who understandably are too afraid to build a church in the face of death threats, or publish a book in the face of death threats, or satire Mohammed in a comedy club or in a movie in the face of death threats, or attend a Muhammad cartoon contest – these should not be criticized by the Counter-Jihad (even if those who are brave enough to forge ahead and risk their lives are to be commended for going above and beyond the call of duty).

    The ones who should be criticized are those who attack the ones who do risk their lives. The ones who should be criticized are those who, more broadly, attack the Counter-Jihad and in so doing, defend the indefensible (viz., defend Muslims who promote Islam).

  15. Angemon says

    May 11, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    voegelinian posted:

    “The ones who should be criticized are those who, more broadly, attack the Counter-Jihad and in so doing, defend the indefensible (viz., defend Muslims who promote Islam).”

    This is coming, seemingly without a trace of irony, from the guy who created a blog (JihadWatch Watch) dedicated to criticize the CJ movement through some of its forefront members.

  16. Ricky Black says

    May 11, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    We don’t need to worry about Sharia around here, we have way to many beer drinking, gun totting, red necks.. YeeeeHaawww bring em on baby

  17. Gene says

    May 11, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    You gotta love those Muslims (otherwise they’ll kill you). They are so peaceful and tolerant that they warned him before the beheading. Now, if he doesn’t convert it will be all his fault.

  18. Lynn says

    May 11, 2015 at 7:27 pm

    “It is the nature of islam to dominate, not to be dominated, to impose it’s law on all nations and to extend it’s power to the entire planet.” Hasan Al-Banna Founder muslim brotherhood

    He meant exactly what he said…

    • Darren says

      May 12, 2015 at 11:55 am

      And our government still refuses to classify the muslim brotherhood as a jihadist organization. I don’t get it. It’s actually very worrisome, considering how deeply the muslim brotherhood as penetrated our government. I expect at some point in time they will use their positions of authority to go after those fighting against the spread of islam, besides passing on intel to the wrong people.

  19. abad says

    May 11, 2015 at 8:54 pm

    Islam is the ONLY religion that identifies “peace” with killing non-Muslims.

  20. Ayatrollah says

    May 12, 2015 at 5:42 am

    When I read these it makes me think that Islam and Muslims has been doing this for 1400 years. They start out sickly sweet about it. With a smile they say “there is no need for a new church here. The Christians already have a nice church. We love our Christians”.

    If the Christians don’t go for it then they get the hateful drive by on motorcycles. Finally, to protect Islam, the one true religion, a Christians family dies because believers “could not control their anger” because Christians were bribing poor Muslims with food………

  21. Linda Rivera says

    May 12, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    Muslims: ‘Stop building churches. Convert to Islam, which is the true religion. Otherwise we will make a horrible example of you.”

    These are the savages who have been massively imported into our nations.

    Every Muslim that is imported into our nations is a REWARD to Islam for barbarically murdering Christians.

    Every mosque that is built in our nations is a REWARD to Islam for burning down our churches.

    Our leaders are 100% on the side of Muslims against our people.

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