The mosque even posted his $100,000 bond when he was arrested, although now they’re lying about that, too. Will authorities investigate this mosque, or are they too busy drawing up the latest condemnation of Pamela Geller? “Phoenix Mosque Caught Lying About Ties to Texas Would-Be Jihadist Killer,” by Patrick Poole, PJ Media, May 7, 2015:
…Most of the conflicting accounts have come from mosque president Usama Shami, who has been regularly featured in multiple press reports following the events Sunday evening….
For example, a Dallas Morning News article quotes him as saying the pair were not regular members:
Usama Shami, president of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, said Simpson and Soofi attended prayers at the mosque but were not regular members. Simpson started attending Friday prayers at the mosque about 10 years ago, he said, but visited the mosque less frequently after he was arrested.
But in fact, a video posted on the ICCPA Youtube channel in 2012 features Elton (“Ibrahim”) Simpson and identifies him as a member:
…The above quote by Shami asserts that Simpson stopped frequenting the mosque after his 2010 arrest. Another account by a local spokeswoman published in the Arizona Republic claimed that the mosque had shunned Simpson:
Deedra Abboud, a converted Muslim and a former community activist-turned-lawyer said Wednesday that members of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix were scared and that “everybody’s being pressured by the FBI.”
Abboud also said that while the FBI’s case bothered Simpson, so did a sense that the mosque turned its back on him.
“It was a combination of the two things: harassment by the FBI and the Muslim community avoiding him like the plague,” said Abboud, who helped raise money for Simpson’s bail and knows many of his closest acquaintances.
“It was the isolation,” she said. “My theory is that he was upset with the Muslim community and he became more susceptible to radical ideas.”
However, mosque president Shami stated several times that it was only within the past few months that the pair stopped attending:
Simpson had worshipped at the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix for about a decade, but he quit showing up over the past two or three months, the president of the mosque told The Associated Press….
That account was repeated by the LA Times:
Usama Shami, president of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, remembers Simpson as “a pleasant kid” who taught his jump shot to younger children at basketball courts near the mosque. Simpson attended the mosque beginning in his high school years, Shami said, and was active until just months ago.
“We didn’t see him too much lately,” said Shami, whose mosque is about two miles from the apartment shared by Simpson and Soofi.
So we see Shami giving two very different versions of Simpson’s attendance at the mosque.
Shami also tried to distance the mosque from Simpson’s 2010 arrest:
Shami disagreed that the mosque shunned Simpson. The mosque did decline to raise money for his legal defense, he said, concerned with not knowing where the FBI case would lead.
“Our first priority is to protect the mosque. It cannot be part of any federal case,” he explained, adding that Simpson was always welcome to attend even after his conviction.
And yet, multiple media reports quote Simpson’s attorney Kristina Sitton saying the mosque posted $100,000 cash bond after his arrest:
The Islamic Community Center of Phoenix posted $100,000 cash bond to release him from custody, Sitton said.
Again, from the LA Times:
Simpson was placed on three years’ probation and fined $600. His mosque in Phoenix had posted his $100,000 bail….
More Ham Ed says
TAQIYYA – sorry, had to sneeze.
Georg says
I know, what an insult to everyone’s intelligence. There’s no shun like ponying up $100k to mitigate deserved temporary discomfort.
Lia Wissing says
What? A respectable (?) imam telling lies?
Mark says
Hah, yes a self contradicting sentence ‘respectable imam;
Except for muslims of course who respect everything corrupt, depraved, lying and evil as per islams core teachings.. and of course following the example of their ‘best of deceivers’…. allah (satan).
Shane says
Yes, Muslims are allowed to lie to infidels in order to defend Islam. The trouble is that most liberals believe what Muslims tell them about their religion and false prophet.
Huck Folder says
@Lia Wissing
imam?
I’m a momzer?
I masturbate about mo?
Intellectual morons are moslems?
Infidel murders are marvellous?
Iblis manifests as mo?
…
Brian says
Mosques are Islamic armed fortresses….They need to be infiltrated, each and every one. As the Islamist president of Turkey has said…“The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers…”
―Recep Tayyip Erdogan
Aardvark says
Yes, Brian.
If by ‘Mosques … need to be infiltrated’ you mean
– wait until they are fully occupied on a Friday
– surround them with an overwhelming force of armed men
– march the occupants to the nearest deportation centre
– and raze the building to the ground
then I am completely with you on this.
revereridesagain says
Shami had taqiyya written all over him, but the dhimmedia is illiterate when it comes to reading Muslim lies.
Of course he did say that his first priority is to protect the mosque (from the kuffar) — including its members in good standing such as brutha Simpson. Shami no doubt understood that once that little detail about the $100,000 bail bond came to light the media would have Moved On.
ermin says
Do Saudi Arabia the Saddam Hussein way then we’ll be able to deal with that cult , it’s gonna be an all out bloody war though
Georg says
I say develop renewables/energy independence and tell them to go pound sand. The only problem is they’re bringing there here… What a rash.
Theodoric says
A Cartoon A Day Could Keep The Jihadis Away – in other words, If everybody who wants to preserve our most precious possession, freedom of speech, were to post a link to a “Prophet” Muhammad cartoon everyday, they would become so ubiquitous that it would even become obvious to the Islamites that the idea of stopping the cartooning with jihad attacks was a lost cause. WE outnumber the Islamites by far. Let’s take advantage of it and put an end to this lunacy.
https://drawthevileprophet.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/preserve-free-speech-draw-the-vile-prophet-400dpi.jpg
RonaldB says
Please serve my taqiyya boiling hot, spiced, with a touch of lemon and sugar.
This is addressed to Deedra Abboud, our activist-turned-lawyer, who tells us it was the harassment by the FBI that turned their sweet Ibrahim Simpson into a flaming radical:
“It was a combination of the two things: harassment by the FBI and the Muslim community avoiding him like the plague,” said Abboud, who helped raise money for Simpson’s bail and knows many of his closest acquaintances…“It was the isolation,” she said. “My theory is that he was upset with the Muslim community and he became more susceptible to radical ideas.”
Of course, the FBI brought its case in 2010. Here is a statement by the sweet, moderate Ibrahim Simpson of 2007, before his radicalization due to the harassment and pressure from the FBI in 2010:
During the trial, the Government played some of the taped conversations between theinformant, Dabla Deng, and the Defendant. One of these recordings was from July 31, 2007,more than two years before his indictment. In that recording, Mr. Simpson told Mr. Dengthat Allah loves an individual who is “out there fighting [non-Muslims]” and making difficultsacrifices such as living in caves, sleeping on rocks rather than sleeping in comfortable bedsand with his wife, children and nice cars. Mr. Simpson said that the reward is high because”If you get shot, or you get killed, it’s [heaven] straight away.” Mr. Simpson then said “[Heaven] that’s what we here for…so why not take that route?”
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/local-news/20150503-one-gunman-reportedly-id-d-in-shootings-outside-muhammad-art-show-in-garland.ece
gravenimage says
Thanks for that background, Ronald.
Georg says
Yes, thank you for your scholarship. This is exactly the type of evidence we need to make our case about their motivations and the unsoundness of the predominant counternarrative.
Lia Wissing says
Goodness! If they’re simply here for heaven, why doesn’t allah take them directly, sans murder, bloodshed, rape & theft?
mortimer says
Dangerous jihadists like Simpson should have GPS device locked on their bodies to tell law officers where they are.
gravenimage says
Phoenix mosque caught lying about membership status of AFDI/JW Muhammad Cartoon Contest jihad attacker
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How common is *this*, where the Jihadist’s Mosque say they never heard of him, or that no one can remember him, or (at most) that he was a casual attendee? This is all to deflect attention on them, so that no one will how much the Mosque is dissemenating “radical” Islam and breeding more violent Jihadists.
More:
The mosque even posted his $100,000 bond when he was arrested…
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Well, *that’s* disturbing—this goes way beyond spiritual support of a parishioner in trouble that you might expect to find at a Christian church.
More:
…Most of the conflicting accounts have come from mosque president Usama Shami
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What do we know about this Mosque? Nothing good…
“Phoenix mosque is a familiar FBI target”
http://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2015/05/07/texas-terrorist-shooting-phoenix-mosque-abrk/70954634/
“The Mosque Which The Muhammad Cartoons Texas Shooters Attended Financially Supported Terrorists”
http://shoebat.com/2015/05/05/the-mosque-which-the-muhammad-cartoons-texas-shooters-attended-financially-supported-terrorists/
More:
Deedra Abboud, a converted Muslim and a former community activist-turned-lawyer said Wednesday that members of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix were scared and that “everybody’s being pressured by the FBI.”
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More repulsive victim-mongering. Members of the Mosque tried to massacre an auditorium full of innocent people, but it is Muslims who are “scared”. What crap.
And here’s the meretricious Deedra Abboud defending another Jihad terrorist eleven years ago:
http://articles.latimes.com/2004/aug/14/nation/na-sailor14
More:
Abboud also said that while the FBI’s case bothered Simpson, so did a sense that the mosque turned its back on him.
“It was a combination of the two things: harassment by the FBI and the Muslim community avoiding him like the plague,” said Abboud, who helped raise money for Simpson’s bail and knows many of his closest acquaintances.
“It was the isolation,” she said. “My theory is that he was upset with the Muslim community and he became more susceptible to radical ideas.”
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Let’s parse this: “radicalism” is caused by “moderate” Muslims spurning a radical Muslim. Oh—and this is ultimately the fault of “harassment” by the filthy Infidels at the FBI.
The old canard, that Jihad terrorism is caused by Infidels defending themselves against Jihad terrorism…
More:
Usama Shami, president of the Islamic Community Center of Phoenix, remembers Simpson as “a pleasant kid” who taught his jump shot to younger children at basketball courts near the mosque.
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The usual crap—he was a great guy—who cares that he was trying to mass murder people? Or even, he was a great guy—if he taught younger kids to improve their jump shots, how could he have been plotting mass murder?
More:
“Our first priority is to protect the mosque. It cannot be part of any federal case”
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Notice he’s not actually saying that the Mosque condemns Jihad terrorism—just that they don’t want the Mosque publicly associated with it. After all, any investigation would surely expose just how much they actually support Jihad, which might cramp their usefulness in spreading it…
Mirren10 says
I do love how you break down and parse all this meretricious bull sh*t, graven. More power to your elbow.
abad says
Muslims really look out for each other, don’t they.
Just like gang members.
Yes Sir.
Huck Folder says
ummafia
Mirren10 says
Exactly. Even down to omerta.
Huck Folder says
I love Helen Mirren.
At least, on TV. She has more balls than the ENTIRE appeasing British political apparatus with the exception of Paul Weston of LibertyGB.
I think you can count the knowledgeable politicians of this planet on your two hands. Ditto for the torchbearers like Robert and Pamela. Almost all the rest willfully have scales on their eyes.
Still, I don’t know your namesake’s politics, and it would never surprise me if she was an utter leftard, with clay feet to the crown of her head.
Mirren10 says
”Still, I don’t know your namesake’s politics, and it would never surprise me if she was an utter leftard, with clay feet to the crown of her head.”
She’s a typical luvvie. Her best friend is Vanessa Redgrave, and she wants Hilary bit*h Clinton to be the next President of your country. Why ? No other reason than that she’s a *woman*. She’s as brain dead as most actors.
Actually, my moniker has nothing to do with her. St Mirren is the patron Saint of Paisley in Scotland, where my father was born. I wanted Mungo, patron Saint of Glasgow, where *I* was born, but it was taken. 🙂
Angemon says
What? Representatives of a mosque lie about the status of a terrorist? I’m shocked! Shocked and appalled!!!
Rossbro says
Forget the Religious aspect of this. What is at stake is FREEDOM. To do as we wish. Not to stop doing what we want to do, print, draw, and speak. Those who disagree with our right to do these things can go home to ‘Sandland’ and live under Theocratic rulers.
Get raped, be stoned. Dress wrong, get beaten. Be gay, get thrown from a rooftop, then be stoned if you survive. Talk to the wrong person, get jailed. They can have this.
We want our freedoms !
WestwardHo says
$100,000
Arabian petrodollars are recycled into our society to support jihad.
The Imam knows its Arabian source would approve of its use for bailing out a jihadi arrested by the infidel authorities for jihad-related action. The mosques funding is provided in support of the larger long term jihad program, along with direct funding of the mosque expenses.
Lee Hicks says
Wow…so, Muslims will lie about associations with violent Jihadists…and will even lie about posting their bond?…I’m stunned…really….um….stunned.
Well, not really…
Gufo says
I only have one question: WHY DO WE KEEP THESE PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY? They are not compatible with civilization, they actually tell us all the time, they’re here to destroy and conquer, that’s it. Any other group doing one tenth of what muslims are doing all over the world would be banned from doing everything associated with their ideology, why is common sense NOT applied to the muslim community???