Here is a fine account of my talk at the University of Wisconsin Madison on April 29, in which I warned about the Islamic State striking in the U.S. — just days before what appear to be a couple of Islamic State jihadis tried to commit jihad mass murder at our AFDI/Jihad Watch Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest in Garland, Texas.
“Jihad expert at Texas shooting warned students of ISIS in America – last week,” by David Hookstead – University of Wisconsin Madison, College Fix, May 4, 2015
Three days before a shooting in which two gunmen were shot dead by police after they open fire at a Mohammed cartoon event in Texas, college students in Wisconsin were warned Islamic radicals are living in America.
Not only that, Jihad expert Robert Spencer – who was present Sunday at the event in Texas that was attacked – told University of Wisconsin Madison students in a guest appearance that ISIS and radical Islamic terrorists want to kill Americans.
He began his talk by asking students why it’s important to care about ISIS, then bluntly answered his own question: “It matters because they want to kill you.”
In his Thursday speech, Spencer said ISIS has issued orders to their members in America to murder people and “if you can’t shoot them, then run them down with your car.”
After the shooting Sunday night, Spencer tweeted: “The shooting outside our free speech event shows once again that moderate Muslims are unable or unwilling to rein in their violent brethren.” RobertSpencer
Details about the two slain suspects, other than they are male, have yet to be released by authorities as of late Sunday night. It remained unclear several hours after the shooting whether it was related to event, but organizers have indicated their belief that it was.
And The Los Angeles Times reports the shooting was “preceded by messages from two social media accounts that expressed radical Islamic viewpoints.”
“One tweet …used the hashtag #texasattack. The user wrote, ‘May Allah accept us as mujahideen.’”
The event, a Mohammed Art Exhibit and Contest, had been criticized as a direct attack on Islam, but organizers said it was about the right to free speech.
As for Spencer, in his UW-Madison speech on Thursday, he had said he remembered a time when CIA counter-terrorism trainings included words like “Islam” and “Jihad.” But today, he added, those words can’t even be uttered in such trainings.
How does he know? Spencer used to lead some of them. But more recently he was shut down after CIA Chief John Brennan changed the policy on discussing Islam. Brennan has also publicly insisted that ISIS members are not “Islamic.”
Today, CIA members are instructed to consider ISIS members just as terrorists, criminals or thugs – not religious zealots.
“They came in and said, ‘You’ve got to get rid of Spencer and others talking about Islam,’” Spencer recalled. “You can’t mention Islam or Jihad in counter-terror training.”
He made the comments before a room of University of Wisconsin-Madison students, informing them of the political correctness that has taken hold of the Central Intelligence Agency – intellectual failures that he contends has led to the death of Americans.
Spencer, invited to speak on campus by the conservative campus group Young Americans for Freedom, told students he was extremely critical of this policy, and blamed it in part for radical Islam attacks in the United States, most notably the terror attack at Fort Hood by Major Nidal Malik Hasan and the Boston Marathon bombers.
He talked about how the government is afraid to confront very visible red flags like Hasan because they don’t want to be branded racist, bigots or Islamaphobics. Spencer was equally critical on the government in regard to the intelligence community’s failure to properly listen to warnings.
According to Spencer, the Boston bombings could have been stopped if “the FBI took the intel they got from the Russians seriously.” He was also quick to point out that the failures to combat radical Islam is not a partisan issue.
“The Republicans are clueless and out to lunch on the issue,” he said. “Democrats are clueless and out to lunch on the issue.”
Spencer was brought in by Young Americans for Freedom because he’s talking about important subjects students do not get anywhere else, organizers said.
“It’s something really important that should be discussed,” YAF co-chair Kelly Ward told The College Fix.
In the past, Spencer led seminars on Islam and jihad for the United States Central Command, United States Army Command, the U.S. Army’s Asymmetric Warfare Group, the FBI, the Joint Terrorism Task Force and other agencies.
Spencer didn’t mince words with the 30 or so students in the audience, a speech given with armed security, including local UW-Madison police, on hand.
Spencer also took a couple of direct shots at President Barack Obama and Secretary of State John Kerry for not properly identifying ISIS as Islamic and saying their murderous actions have nothing to do with Islam.
“They [ISIS] say they’re the most Islamic thing around…Al-Qaeda, Hamas, and Boko Haram all seek to restore the caliphate. ISIS finally did it,” he said.
The justification that ISIS uses for beheadings was also highlighted by Spencer, who cited the Quran chapter 47:4 where it tells Muslims to strike the necks of disbelievers. Some radical Muslims look at ISIS as a model of what believers of the Quran should do. Spencer elaborated on this mindset by saying: “They’re doing what the Quran says. Finally somebody is doing what the Quran says.”
Asked if he felt Muslim student organizations on American campuses have ties to radical Muslim groups, Spencer said “the MSA is an arm of the Muslim Brotherhood. There is a long list of MSA members from around America that have been involved in Jihad terrorism.”
But Spencer wrapped up his speech with some good news, saying that America will win because “lovers of life will always prevail.”
Spencer is director of Jihad Watch, a program of the David Horowitz Freedom Center. Although police were on the scene, Spencer’s visit did not prompt any protests.
Mark says
“My favourite drawings at the Texas cartoon festival were the two chalk outlines outside”
True:https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10205142293214770&id=1167814229
TH says
The link gives a blank page. Did dimmhi Facebook block it?
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Is anyone else kicking themself in the hindquarters, having missed this event?
I was so close to going…then talked myself out of it. Living in Ks., it’s not often I have the chance to attend a SIOA event.
Well, next time for sure. I would have loved to sing and pray with the other patriots there; and hopefully hear the shots as two members of the Religion of Pervs bit the dust. At which time I’ve no doubt a great cheer erupted…
Thank God for the safety of all there!
dumbledoresarmy says
“Young Americans For Freedom”.
Good to know that such an organisation exists.
Go for it, guys!
I hope they’re networked with ACT for America.
Shane says
I am surprised that the liberal fascists at that left wing university let Robert speak! Good for them. Sometimes the liberal fascists work with the Islamofascists to stifle free speech. No religion should be immune from criticism.
Angemon says
Which, despite what some sectors would like us to believe, is no justification for physical attacks. No idea or ideology should be above scrutiny, and if the only defense put up by believers of any given ideology is “help, help, we’re being attacked”, as opposed to rebutting the so-called “attacks”, well…
Jay Airahs says
Muslim leaders “Stand with the Prophet” convention at this location in January in support of the murderers was an attack on simple human decency.
Georg says
Strongly agreed. It was a sickening example of their passive-aggression, hatred, absurd insistence on victimhood, entitlement, thanklessness and superlative shamelessness.
They needed to be called out and stood up to– and oh have they been. We’re only getting started.
gravenimage says
These would-be Jihad murders are *exactly* what “standing with the prophet” looks like, Jay.
Shane says
The liberal media never thinks that disgusting art exhibits depciting Jesus, Mary, and other Christians is a way of attacking Christiainity. Some of those drawings were not so bad, and the fact that Muhammad was a murder and rapist means that he deserves the negative drawings.
Proud Pork Fan says
“The event, a Mohammed Art Exhibit and Contest, had been criticized as a direct attack on Islam”
Who ever believes that can eat my jizzya.
spot on says
Far too many prominent people do not believe we are at war with Islam. They do not want to believe. They are wrong. There is a lot of money involved and more for them. Just look at the world, it is always Muslims fighting someone and these same prominent people try to tell us that Islam is a religion of peace.
Thank you Pamela, Robert, Geert, and all those who were able to attend in Garland. I applaud all your efforts.
JMB says
“Thank you Pamela, Robert & Geert” The whole free world should be saying a big thank you as well.
AND;
The USA is holding presidential election next year, your country needs some candidates with real stamina, candidates that will stand up to the enemies of your nation and candidates who still believe in your once great nation, not a leader who is an apologist for the Islamic world. How about it Pamela & Robert!
Georg says
On CNN the anchor just casually throws out something like, “Most Muslims don’t believe in jihad.” Ehh heh heh… I remember being similarly ignorant of mainstream Islamic sentiment. It shows a plain lack of experience with Islamic texts and culture. I have a hint for them:
*open the instruction manual*
Keith says
Too true Georg, I can remember that as well. For me it was the murder of Drummer Lee Rigby outside Woolwich Barracks that turned the switch.
It is surprising how many people are willing to defend Islam having never opened the instruction manual.
Wich says
Anyone who criticizes the Religion of Permanent Offense can expect to be threatened anywhere by those who support it in the most graphic and vile manner their imaginations can come up with, and at the very least be called a racist and Islamophobic. What we know is that everyone is being told by these actions that we should sing the songs of praise of Islam willy-nilly which I’m not ready to do.
Jay Airahs says
Have Muslims no shame at all?
Muslim leaders have already had their hateful “Stand with the Prophet” convention there to celebrate the deaths in Paris on Jan 18, 2015. One would think that they would be just a bit more contrite considering the heinous disgrace committed by fellow Muslims on a daily basis.
Brian Hoff says
You are supid that Stand with the Prophet have nothing to do with what happen in Paris on Jan 28,2015 you worthless racist. These event was plan than year head of time. You must have being smokeing pot while in hight school.
Angemon says
Brian Hoff posted:
“You are supid (…) You must have being smokeing pot while in hight school.”
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! OH, THE IRONY!!!
gravenimage says
The repulsive “Brian Hoff”—really, “DefenderofIslam”—wrote:
You are supid that Stand with the Prophet have nothing to do with what happen in Paris on Jan 28,2015 you worthless racist. These event was plan than year head of time. You must have being smokeing pot while in hight school.
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What rot. Muslims regularly consider threats and murder against critical Infidels to constitute “standing with the prophet”.
“Stand with the Prophet” Facebook page cites the Danish MoToons and the “Innocence of Muslims” trailer as “attacks”, even though they were entirely non-violent, yet has no condemnation of Jihad terror threats and attacks against these cartoonists and film makers.
https://www.facebook.com/events/676609969057907/
And this is no surprise, since Muslims murdering “blasphemers” is orthodox Islam.
And what is “racist” about any of this? “Brian Hoff” has made this false claim before, even though he himself claims to be a “revert”, so most of those he shares ethnicity with are filthy Infidels. Islam has *nothing* to do with race.
Notice that “DefenderofIslam” has not a word of criticism for either the Charlie Hebdo killers or the attackers in Garland, Texas.
pennant8 says
Muslims view infidels defending themselves against Islamic aggression as an attack on Islam. It doesn’t matter if was the crusades, or this art contest, Islamologic in action.
Singh says
Leaders are not in denial about Islam. They just afraid to confront it. They know Muslim countries have the west by the balls, economically as major buyers of goods and services, including military arms, major suppliers of oil. All out conflict with Muslims could have terrible consequences for the west, especially with enemy population within. So leaders trying to appease and try to convince Muslims Islam is a religion of peace and hoping they believe it and change their ways. Western leaders believe this is the least damaging option.
gravenimage says
I respectfully disagree, Singe. Both most of our “leaders” and many ordinary people are still in deep denial—sometimes willful denial—over the threat of Islam—they just don’t want to believe that Islam is a threat.
This has happened before—during the 1920s and ’30s all too many people in the free West wanted to believe that Fascism was harmless—or even benevolent, mounting evidence to the contrary.
gravenimage says
Sorry about the typo in your name, Singh.
Firebug says
I also respectfully disagree Singh. Whilst its true that if not our leaders, then certainly experienced people in our security services know the true nature of Islam. It begs the question of why do they spout their ‘Nothing to do with Islam’ and ‘Religion of Peace’ tripe every few days/weeks/months when these animals murder innocents.
I’ve often wondered myself why it is that my country is importing thousands of these savages every day if they know full well what is going to come to pass: either Islam takes over, or there’s a bloody civil war.
The answer I’ve come up with in my own small mind is this: Oil money from Wahhabi Saudis AND Western Multinational oil companies is lining the pockets of these corrupt politicians. I can’t see any other explanation for it.
Matthieu Baudin says
They are living amongst us and no level of appeasement is going to satisfy their appetite for violence. The President would do well to get behind prominent voices for freedom of speech, including Robert Spencer, because the momentum of a mobilised citizenry is needed in order to defeat this terrorist scourge.
Keith says
It needs to be done sooner rather than later
Jay Airahs says
Characteristics of a cult
A Google search showed ne two things
1 — That most of the characteristics are strongly found in Islam.
2 — That the list will throw in a teaser about Christianity as if to say (not about Islam)
Joan in Houston says
Perhaps they are trying to catch up with the number of deaths perpetrated by atheists in recent decades??????
spot on says
Many of the socialist type atheists have joined with the Muslims in promoting and condoning all the killing.
Special Guest says
I hope none of the drawings were damaged. Stay safe, vigilant, and outspoken.
mortimer says
“The shooting…shows once again that moderate Muslims are unable or unwilling to rein in their violent brethren.” RobertSpencer
Actually, it shows that Sharia law PUNISHES BLASPHEMY WITH DEATH.
Sharia law cannot be changed in the mind of Muslims anymore than the law of gravity.
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Sharia Law Manual, Reliance of the Traveller o11.10:
“The agreement [with the state] is also violated (A: with respect to the offender alone) if the state has stipulated that any of the following things break it, and one of the subjects does so anyway, though if the state has not stipulated that these break agreement, then they do not; namely, if one of the subject people:
(3) leads a Muslim away from Islam;
(5) or mentions something impermissible about Allah, the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace), or Islam.
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Islamic law on Blasphemy
Dr. Takim, ‘Aalim Network QR, December 8, 1995
In Islam, a person who has committed blasphemy can either be killed or crucified, or his opposite hands and feet can be cut off, or he can be exiled from that land. On the other hand, in other religions there is no other option except capital punishment. Islam at least has four options of punishment for an act of blasphemy.
Truly whoever abused the Holy Prophet SallAllahu Alaihi wa Sallam or ascribed any fault to him or attributed any defect to his family, religion or his habit, or reproached him, or compared the Holy Prophet Muhammad SallAllahu Alaihi wa Sallam with any defective thing with the objective of degrading his personality and prestige, he is truly an abusive person and deserves to be executed. We make absolutely no exception to this verdict, whether the insult has been committed intentionally or unintentionally. This has been the verdict of all the ‘Ulamā of the Ummah from the time of the Companions to the present day. [Qadī Iyadh, Ash-Shifa, Vol. 2, Page 214]
Joseph says
This event is a good test to find out who stands where. Many a good friend who you thought was on the side of freedom just might turn around and say that the Muslims were justified in their attack. Sometimes you have a liberal leftist standing right next to you and you never suspect a thing.
TRUST ME I KNOW==Radicalized liberal child with a Masters who swallowed all that BS, even though he was warned many times of the college agenda.
I say child because an adult will/should think for themselves and smell the BS train from a mile away.
Sad to say this will pit brother against brother, son against father.
I read that somewhere……Hmmm…..In the Bible, said by the Son of GOD Himself.
David says
Finding the right balance between freedom of expression of the individual on the one hand and the need to act responsibility towards society on the other is the test before us all.
“Liberty must, in the end, lead to sedition, whose flames none can quench… Know ye that the embodiment of liberty and its symbol is the animal. That which beseemeth man is submission unto such restraints as will protect him from his own ignorance, and guard him against the harm of the mischief-maker. Liberty causeth man to overstep the bounds of propriety, and to infringe on the dignity of his station. It debaseth him to the level of extreme depravity and wickedness.”
Baha’u’llah
gravenimage says
The appalling Baha’i apologist for the savagery of Islam David wrote:
Finding the right balance between freedom of expression of the individual on the one hand and the need to act responsibility towards society on the other is the test before us all.
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In other words, we should not just refrain from criticizing Islam ourselves, but should actively falsely whitewash it as David does. Please note that this has not stopped pious Muslims from oppressing and murdering his fellow Baha’i.
More:
“Liberty must, in the end, lead to sedition, whose flames none can quench… Know ye that the embodiment of liberty and its symbol is the animal. That which beseemeth man is submission unto such restraints as will protect him from his own ignorance, and guard him against the harm of the mischief-maker. Liberty causeth man to overstep the bounds of propriety, and to infringe on the dignity of his station. It debaseth him to the level of extreme depravity and wickedness.”
Baha’u’llah
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How sickening—David is now rejecting liberty and demanding that we replace it with submission to tyranny.
And note what this means—that he is characterizing exercising freedom of speech as “animal behavior”, but has no such problem with savage Muslims murdering to protect the image of their vicious “Prophet”.
That he is doing this in the face of Robert Spencer’s brave example in the face of threats and attempted murder make this all the more disgusting. *Ugh*.
Angemon says
David posted:
“Finding the right balance between freedom of expression of the individual on the one hand and the need to act responsibility towards society on the other is the test before us all.”
Nope. Free speech is free speech. You can’t get away with shouting “Fire!” on a crowded theater and you’re not responsible for what other people find offensive or how they react to it. What you’re saying pretty much amounts to “don’t criticize islam and no one gets hurt” – that’s blaming the victim and I, for one, refuse to accept such a creepy thought process. In fact, I’m offended by it.
“Liberty must, in the end, lead to sedition, whose flames none can quench… Know ye that the embodiment of liberty and its symbol is the animal. That which beseemeth man is submission unto such restraints as will protect him from his own ignorance, and guard him against the harm of the mischief-maker. Liberty causeth man to overstep the bounds of propriety, and to infringe on the dignity of his station.”
Thank you, comrade David, for showing us what we’re fighting against.
Eliz says
I live in Madison within close walking distance of UW Madison and did not know of this. I certainly would have wanted to attend a talk by Robert Spencer. Come back and do a more public and publicized event!
Steve says
The real issue is no moral compass especially from our civil service employee’s, illegitimate authority, is a clear indicator of APD [sociopaths and psychopaths].
1% of the population have Antisocial Personality Disorder APD [ref DSM5] that is 230,000 psychopaths in Australia alone. Worldwide 70,000,000.
APD [psychopaths] is why we are always at war, they are genetically flawed, disposing them to be criminally and morally insane.
So where are they all, Terrorist States, ISIS, socialist states, civil services? Seems psychopaths gravitate to positions of power it is their nature.
Australia is experiencing a massive constitutional crisis, 21 Billion PA wasted on fraudulent socialist services corruption in family court alone, 21 deaths per week by way of suicide, where is the public outcry here?,
Our courts and civil services are awash with fraud and political corruption, especially here in Queensland.
I Have been in family court for 5 years on proven via confession of false allegations of DV, against fraudulent socialist services corruption by Legal Aid Queensland they still won’t let my 5yo son see me, despite court orders, anyone like to try explaining that?
Please stop funding legal aid Queensland socialist corruption and their feminists agenda.
Please ask the [our] government.
1. Do they employ psychopaths in civil services?
2. How many psychopaths are employed in or civil services?
3. Why are they employing psychopaths in civil services?
4. Have they warned the people they are employing psychopaths in civil services?
http://fathersunionaustralia.com/wp/dsm-5/
Lia Wissing says
Congratulations, thanks and my admiration to University of Wisconsin-Madison, for inviting Mr Spencer! Will any other universities and colleges in the USA have the courage to follow suit?
underbed cat says
Robert Spencer …your quick mind and analyses when speaking about the global islamic movement, amazes me. I would have been in Madison to listen to your talk…but I had not a clue you would be so close. Where can I get this information.
I appreciate your work to educate and inform the public about the dangers we face from a enemy (MB) we cannot name in the name of diversity. So stealth and cunning almost a mirage, ever hiding it’s true nature.
Timothy O'Brien says
God bless you Robert. While the rest of us worry, you actually face this danger every day. You’ve been so honest, brave, compassionate and consistently accurate. Your work as a scholar and as a champion of free speech should be an inspiration to every citizen in the country. It seems that the enemy is far more serious about destroying us then we are of defending ourselves. This is civilization jihad, the sooner we acknowledge that the better. There are serious problems. An Islamic sympathizer blind to the truth is the president. An inept self-serving congress that clapped during Netanyahu’s visit and didn’t pay attention to the gravity of his words fills the ranks of Congress. The media attacks a man who risked his life for free speech? Why are such horrible ideas prevailing?
It’s not fear mongering or hate speech to tell the truth. You should be advising the joint chiefs on counter terrorism. You would think the Holy Land Foundation trial would wake people up! This willful ignorance has cost lives already. If our institutions can not handle this threat because of hopeless leaders and a lapdog media, what do we do? Acknowledge the fact that they want us dead and they’re here for starters? Again, thank you so very much Robert and God bless you and your family.