Why preventing jihadis from leaving the West to join the Islamic State is a bad idea. “T.O. man wanted to join ISIL, but would settle for terror attack in Canada, undercover RCMP officer told,” by Stewart Bell, National Post, May 20, 2015:
TORONTO — An undercover RCMP officer described Wednesday how a Toronto man told him he wanted to travel to Syria to fight with the Islamic State in Iraq & the Levant but decided to conduct a terrorist attack in Canada instead.
Jahanzeb Malik, 33, thought ISIL was “fulfilling a prophecy” and discussed routes he might take to join, but ultimately decided to strike in Toronto, the officer said. “Mr. Malik said several times, ‘We have to do something in Canada.’ ”
At a hearing to decide whether Malik should be deported as a danger to Canada’s security, the officer said the Pakistani thought an attack on Canadians was justified because they were an “enemy” due to their military role in the Middle East.
“He said that there are no civilians in Canada, only enemies because all Canadians pay the tax and the tax dollars are used to buy the planes that are sent to Syria and Iraq and are used to fund the military,” the officer testified….
Jerry says
# “He said that there are no civilians in Canada, only enemies because all Canadians pay the tax and the tax dollars are used to buy the planes that are sent to Syria and Iraq and are used to fund the military,”
This happens to be the Islamic view.
Following the same kind of logic, would it net be correct to say that:-
There are no civilians in Islam because all Muslims are committed to unreservedly accept unquestioningly the Qur’an and the “Sahih” (reliable) Hadiths and are thus committed to the Islamic genocidal agenda against all non_Muslims (and also against other Muslims who follow different sects and or interpretations of the Qur’an, Hadith and Islam).
bernie says
A U.S. commentator has correctly stated, “Yes, our drone strikes do sometimes accidentally kill innocent (Muslim) civilians, and this undoubtedly creates new enemies for the West in general and the United States in particular. Nonetheless, we would not need to drop a single bomb on Afghanistan or anywhere else, if there were not a death cult of dveout, extremist Muslims who are making life miserable for millions of innocent people, and posing an unacceptable threat of violence against open societies.”
john simpson says
I totally agree; let ’em go, but be very careful to never let them back in. Then we’ll be safe from whatever calumny they might plan, while they’ll either be killed or forced to spend the rest of their miserable lives in an islamic state.
Looks like a win win proposition to me…
rcourtemanche says
More trash that got in this country somehow, likely under Liberals policies with NDP support.
Stevern Kaszab says
History shows young people are attracted to “progressive Causes”. Whether it be Marxist, Revolutionary, Nationalist or the new brew “Jihadist”.
Adventure, ideology-religious belief, Money or Power…what ever is their inspiration they will play out. After all it is easier to destroy than build, it is easier to hate than understand.
The Marxists of Europe(1960-1980) were rounded up and imprisoned. Nationalists either win or loose, but the Jihadists try to win through Terror and Terror only. They know it is the only way they can acquire attention, temporary power and influence over their fellow Muslims. Let them go and join their brethern to be used for propaganda, sexual or military useage. Neutralize them over sea’s . Meet their Hatred with Western intelligent retribution. If they kill 12 of ours kill many of theirs.
After all, out side of oil what has this arid place given civilization? Absolutely Nothing!
Baucent says
I actually think this needs to be considered by the West. Let them go on their Jihad in the middle east, but just make sure they never return. These people are too toxic to allow wandering the streets of Europe or North America, spewing their hateful ideology. And they are too toxic to put in prisons where they can corrupt others.
They should be actively assisted to leave our democratic countries they love to hate, with no right of return.
Raja says
Why on earth do you want these weird cuckoo’s with blood in their hands to be your citizens in the first place? They are a curse to themselves and all mankind. They are the perfect disciples of the devil the first murderer and father of lies..Islam is only mirroring that.— day in and day out.
steven kaszab says
Young People who want to participate within the jihadist movement are not animals who need to be slaughtered. The youth of the day within the western world show limited life experience and have been brought up in a bubble wrapped society protected by family and state. Perhaps it is time to institute compulsory programs which train our youth, discipline, and introduce our youth to the world and its ways.
Military or educational in manner it will pull the immaturity out of them. These people need guidance not closing the door upon them. Discipline and lawfulness should win over the youth.
Adult/mercenaries that participate in jihad should suffer the Law.
Angemon says
And this is something that should be repeated over and over to counter islamic doublespeak. Whenever an imam says that islam doesn’t allow killing of innocents, people should remember that the definition of “innocents” in islam doesn’t match our definition of innocents. 9/11 was un-islamic because islam doesn’t allow killing innocents? The people working in the Towers paid taxes to the American government, and those taxes were used to finance the US military, who has troops in islamic countries.
Raja says
Angemon,
You are right on spot. Not only are the definitions different in Islamic culture the definitions can be tweaked. The devil god wants his people to jeopardize their souls for the greater reward of 72 virgins etc “for ever”
There are a few in the West to speak out that Islam is not from God nor is Koran etc..
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bernie says
“There are no civilians in Canada because all Canadians pay taxes to the government, which then wages war against Muslims…”
The extremist British Muslim cleric Anjem Choudary says the same kind of thing about Britain. However, he (and others like him) conveniently ignore the fact that British taxpayers’ money also helps to finance the lavish, jizyah welfare payments that he enjoys in the United Kingdom. He sure doesn’t seem to complain about that. Can you say “shameless hypocrisy”? I wonder if this Pakistani guy in Canada has been receiving any welfare payments…
Raja says
The Canadians like other Western nations/OZ/NZ it seems could not find any other scum other than the Pakistani scum to fill their country. This is appalling to other non muslims.. This idea of transplantation of people must be from leftists who know nothing about religions leave alone Islam. Why on earth do you need people to swarm your localities when there can be wholesome interaction of people/cultures for a given time. Although the muslims are “peace loving” they always have a baggage called Islam that wants to kill all Kafirs at appropriate time or at the least be a silent spectator.
I hope Leftists opinion and the majority view changes in their own self interest…
JRH says
According to the 2011 census, there are 585,555 immigrants from China, 572,435 from India, 559,455 from the UK, 502,295 from the Philippines, 316,165 from the US, 260.250 from Italy, 171,870 from Germany and 168,420 from Vietnam… And 161,380 from Pakistan. So yeah, not sure where you came up with that. Or is it because the Muslim in this article is from Pakistan that you’re assuming we’re filled with Pakistani scum?
Raja says
JRH,
Just because a Pakistani scum filled the news does not mean they are filled in Canada. Your stats prove that.
Btw every scum that carries out call of allah god/ Mo charges the atmosphere with end times warnings and “all world will convert to Islam” and this propaganda keeps the muslims in good humor and sadly the West is at he receiving end.
I find it sickening ….
Lioness says
A hearing to decide if he is a danger to Canada? Daaaa, he is. There will be ten years of hearings before Canada can deport this scum, and maybe that will never happen. All those “hearings” cost millions to tax payers, while this rat lives amongst us and contemplates jihad on our soil