Has the school been shut down? Investigated? Scrutinized in any way? Or would that be “Islamophobic”?
“British Isis suicide bomber in Ramadi offensive revealed as Fatlum Shalaku, the fifth former pupil of the same school to die,” by Loulla-Mae Eleftheriou-Smith, Independent, May 24, 2015:
A British Isis fighter who blew himself up as part of a militant onslaught on the Iraqi city of Ramadi has been revealed to be Fatlum Shalaku, a 20-year-old body builder and former student.
ITV News revealed that Shalaku, who had chosen to go by the name of Abu Musa al-Britani, was one of six suicide bombers fighting with Isis as it pushed into the Iraqi city this month. His older brother, Flamur, 23, was reportedly killed while fighting on the frontline in March.
Shalaku is the fifth former pupil from the Holland Park School to have died in jihad, according to The Sunday Times, following the death of his brother and of Mohamed Nasser, 21, who reportedly died during fighting last year. Mohamed el-Araj, 23, from Ladbroke Grove, reportedly died in 2013, and Nassim Terrri [sic], 25, was killed on a mountainside in March 2012.
A former school friend of Fatlum, who chose to remain anonymous, told ITV news that the student had enjoyed posting photos of his “honed physic” on Facebook and described him as an “extremely friendly, approachable” and “popular” person.
The former school friend said Fatlum’s transition into holding extremist Islamic views was “gradual,” which made the news about his traveling to join Isis more surprising, but his older brother Flamur showed an “almost overnight transformation”.
“[Flamur] was someone you would see drinking, socialising, beardless and popular with ladies – overnight he has a grim expression on his face, his demeanour changes.
“With Fatlum it was more gradual,” they said.
Last year two more former Holland Park School pupils were arrested under terror laws and accused of funding jihadi fighters in Syria….
cs says
Wow, Holland park is such a posh nice area, what these goat abusers are doing there?
Mirren10 says
”Wow, Holland park is such a posh nice area, what these goat abusers are doing there?”
This might answer part of your question.
”Opened in 1958, the school became the flagship for comprehensive education, and in its heyday had over 2,000 students. A number of high-profile socialists sent their children to Holland Park School, and it became known as “the socialist Eton”. The Labour politician Tony Benn and his wife Caroline notably sent all four of their children to the school.” (Wiki)
And we all know the affinity the Left has with islam.
Georg says
I realize the left means well and all, but it’s about time they look at the empirical results of their do-goodness here. There’s a saying “Nothing succeeds like success”, well, it’s about time this failure be treated as such. It’s coming at the expense of the society which makes their governance possible, and is degrading the country for posterity. Enough, we have a jihadi factory on our hands and socialists bear much of the blame. The society is literally being niced to death…
Western Canadian says
Have to disagree about the left meaning well… I have never met anyone from the left, who’s ‘love of the people’ was actually an extremely strong with to have their hands around the throats of ‘the people’. Poorly or at best superficially educated, and hungry like no one else for power….
Very Islamic, actually.
Western Canadian says
“who’s ‘love of the people’ was actually an extremely strong with to have their hands around the throats of ‘the people’.”
Should be “who’s ‘love of the people’ was actually anything but an extremely strong wish to have their hands around the throats of ‘the people’.
Need more sleep…..
Western Canadian says
Pardon usage of an older modality of English…. ‘anything’ should be ‘nothing’, for modern sensibilities…..
Much, much more sleep.
Celtic says
“I realize the left means well and all, but it’s about time they look at the empirical results of their do-goodness here.”
Agreed, lol. The gays have already realized this in Britain and start to vote for their former political enemies because the left is in complete denial of what is happening. They just don’t want to realize that a religon from another culture could be wicked.
mortimer says
The Leftards want their exotic pets at the best schools…but exotic pets are WILD ANIMALS and frequently turn on their owners and handlers WITHOUT WARNING.
Leftards are creating and ENCOURAGING the problem of political Islam BECAUSE THEY ARE WEARING THE WRONG GLASSES!
Georg says
I know what you meant, Western 😛 Count those sheep!
@ Mortimer
They’re not only “encouraging” but “engendering” the whole problem of political Islam. There’s nobody else in the country who wants them here.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that information, Mirren. It does not surprise.
jayell says
What are they doing ANYWHERE this side of the Mediterranean?
Angemon says
This is a pattern we see over and over: seemingly well-adjusted individuals become more observant of their religion and decide to join the jihad. Not that it has anything to do with islam, mind you. It was clearly the result of the internet, discrimination, and poverty, right?
In a sane world, in a world where decisions are based on facts and logical reasoning, the school would be investigated, alongside the local mosque. Fun fact: remember this “lovely” girl?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/07/uk-muslima-tried-to-smuggle-20000-euros-in-underwear-for-syria-jihadis
Guess which school she went to.
Darren says
Exactly, even a casual observer should be able to put two and two together. What is causing so many people from one location to become jihadists? What is the variable in this equation? It’s like a vector of infection for some disease, the same principal applies. Just like how according to some reports 80% of mosques preach violent jihad. If this is true, wouldn’t infiltrating and monitoring mosque activity possibly yield some results, especially from mosques that have had jihadists come from said location. I guess the damage groups like CAIR and the muslim brotherhood did at weakening the body politic have been quite successful. Groups like CAIR and the muslim brotherhood remind me of the AIDS virus, they continue to weaken the immune system.
Georg says
I’d think a gradual transition would be less surprising than a sudden one, but I’m not fluent in Bizarro Worldese quite yet.
Darren says
What is Bizarro about saying that a certain location that has had multiple jihadists come out of it should be investigated. Please elaborate on why you think such opinion is bizarre and not founded in reality.. The transition may or may not be gradual it depends on each individual person. Some would be jihadists become radical rather quickly, while others do it over time.
Angemon says
I think that what Georg is saying is that in a sane world, a sudden, almost overnight “transformation” would be more surprising than a gradual one. The article reads:
I don’t think Georg opposes any looking into the school and/or local mosque, he was just pointing out an incongruence – why is it that the friend more surprised to know that someone who gradually adopted “radical” (meaning orthodox) views traveled to Syria than that someone changed almost overnight?
Darren says
I see, that makes sense. I wasn’t sure if he was disagreeing with my vector of infection reference, which may or may not have been a good example. I just meant that if one location or area has multiple people become jihadists, there is a pattern of some sort. Things aren’t born in a vacuum. Is the local imam preaching jihad? Are there locals who have influence or standing in the local community preaching jihad, are a lot of locals spending time on a jihadist network online, and talking amongst themselves? I see some sort of pattern here, though I won’t claim to be some sort of expert in law enforcement. Just from where I sit it looks like there may be another variable causing this. I could also be wrong and it’s simply a symptom of islam itself.
Georg says
Thank you, Angemon. That’s precisely what I was saying. I meant to point out the “incongruence” you mention.
@ Darren
I couldn’t agree with you more. There is absolutely a pattern. As I said above, we seem to have a veritable jihadist factory on our hands– they should absolutely be investigated.
This brings to mind old text fights with girlfriends that were entirely misperceived, hehe.
gravenimage says
I knew what you meant, Georg.
Celtic says
It seems the Brits are willing to ignore breeding schools of terror within their backyard. And they seem to tolerate rape-gangs as well provided they’re foreign. Moreover they even tolerate Marches headed by Choudari which contain numerous Burka-wearing women.
What would the brave WW2 Generations think of this cowardly behaviour? They do not dare to oppose this dangerous ideology – because doing so could result in being called names. It’s ridiculous. The Brits better start deporting and adressing the problem – or face a civil war within the next 30 years.
Green Infidel says
Holland Park school eh? When I was young, friends from another nearby school would leave to the underground station in big groups, to stop themselves getting mugged by Holland Park’s finest.
Looks like nothing changes and, as ever, Jihadis are attracted to rough schools and prisons just like flies are to sh*t.
Michael Warden says
Investigated ? Good heavens ! That would bring down the Thought Police on anyone who suggested it. Don’t forget that here in the UK we have Minitrue and Newspeak is the thing. Keep your head down. Pay your taxes. Keep your mouth shut. Sieg heil.
JR Kipling says
How many people read his name as Flatulence Shavoogi? Go on be honest.
veritas says
He is albania ( maybe from Kosovo) . i’m albanian too and there have been jihadis of syrian war from albania , but as far as i know no suicide bomber , cause in albanian culture suicide is considered really unusual . I think there is a real brainwashing program that has to be exposed ( not only on religious bases but also on cultural matters ) .
Ps : Sorry for my english.
gravenimage says
“veritas” wrote:
…but as far as i know no suicide bomber , cause in albanian culture suicide is considered really unusual .
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What rot—”suicide bomber” does not refer to “suicide” in the Western sense, but as “killing and being killed in the way of Allah”—in other words, waging violent JIhad.
As far as there being no Albanian or Kosovar suicide bombers, this is clearly incorrect:
“The boy from Kosovo who grew up to be a suicide bomber”
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29524402
“Suicide Bomber Responsible for March 25th Baghdad Blast: Kosovo Albanian”
http://www.juliagorin.com/wordpress/?p=3112
veritas says
Mea culpa. Anyway I was just suggesting that not only fervent religiousity ( the wrong one ) , but also a cultural element may catalyze this kind of “behaviour” , because in anybody the religious element is coherent with the general worldview. These people chose this kind sociopathic path , cause they are a) very ignorant (this destructive religion is their only element of their education ) , or – that i’m refering to- b) their cultural education leaves them without any autocritic feeling , in an enviroment of what is a percived occidental relativism , that – i think – becomes destructive when it becomes real. If i may say it in just few word , westerners has to be westerners ( and in my opinion intrinsically christians ) if they want a westernized islam. Hope i was clear . Just a reflection.
dumbledoresarmy says
I’m not so sure that this means that the school itself – which still has a secular non-Muslim name, and appears to have started out as what we Aussies call a ‘state’ [i..e secular, non-sectarian, not run by a church or any other religious group, not private] school – has become a madrasa, though it might be interesting to look at whether any of the teachers and other staff at the school are Muslims, and if so, how many as a proportion of the total, and whether they *have* had any influence on what is taught or not taught within the school (Thinking of “Trojan Horse” and assorted cases of Muslim infiltration and subversion of *other* schools within the UK).
What I’d like to know is how many Muslims live in the school’s “catchment area”, as a percentage of the total population within that area; and then, what percentage of the school’s pupils are Muslims. If there are a *lot* of Muslims attending the school, probability and statistics says that at least some of them will Go Jihad.
I’d also like to know about the nearest mosque, or mosques. What if the mosque that the Muslim pupils’ parents/ extended family attend is a particularly red-hot jihad-minded establishment?? That might account for the fact that young Muslims in this particular location – which also happens to contain the school in question – seem to be Going Jihad with greater frequency that young Muslims from other parts of the UK.
mortimer says
Jihadists like Fatlum Shalaku become ‘radicalized’ in ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS. The Islamic study groups have to be banned entirely.
What do they study in these groups (often found in universities)? They study the authentic source texts of Islam that teach the jihad doctrine.
American law enforcement officers are forbidden from learning the same texts that motivate the jihadists, so they are willfully blind and deaf when they meet a jihadist.
Our Leftarded journalists increase the willful ignorance so Western civilization can successfully be destroyed by the jihadists.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Jihadists like Fatlum Shalaku become ‘radicalized’ in ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS.
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With all respect, Mortimer, I’m not sure why you have become so focused on “Islamic study groups”. Sure, some Muslims learn their Islam this way—but they are just as apt to learn it at home, at the Mosque, at the Madrassa or Islamic school, from their thug buddies, from the Qur’an and the other texts of Islam, and even from that old bugaboo, the internet. Formal Islamic study groups are hardly the main conduit.
More:
The Islamic study groups have to be banned entirely.
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This has the same pitfalls as calls to ban the Qur’an, I’m afraid. When I met with Jihad Watch poster Davegreybeard and local Anti-Jihadist “Tom” at a cafe not too long ago, that meeting could well have been considered an “Islamic study group”. I’m sure that many Anti-Jihadists here have had similar experiences.
In fact, Jihad Watch itself is a virtual Islamic study group.
This—just like banning the Qur’an—would have the unintended effect of preventing good Infidels from learning about Islam.
Despite our disagreement here, I hope you are well, Mortimer.
No Fear says
Five pupils who want to get ahead…..errrr, a head.
particolor says
Fe Fo Fi Fum !! I smell the Blood of an Englishman !!
albert says
We should actively help them to go, but at the other end have the people and weapons to take care of them, help the kurds and others in the region who are fighting this filth, they could be volunteers, a sort of Crusader Foreign Legion and the shithole they call ISIL or whatever could be a killing zone to keep them contained, this could go on indefinitely while we dispose of all the garbage which has infected the civilised world.
albert says
When I say they could be volunteers I meant the Crusader Foreign Legion fighting on our side, the side of Western civilisation.
gravenimage says
UK jihad suicide bomber is 5th pupil of the same school to join the jihad
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Sounds as though Britain could well use this plan:
“Australia schools to introduce “jihadi watch” scheme”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/australia-schools-to-introduce-jihadi-watch-scheme
This scheme is *not* without its serious flaws, as pointed out by Robert Spencer and many posters including myself—but it seems overall a much healthier approach than in some places, where this issue of “radicalized” students is ignored, or even—as came out in one story—teachers are deliberately shielding students they know are poised to go off and wage violent Jihad so they don’t ‘get in trouble’.
“UK teachers fear students will join Islamic State, but won’t tell police”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/04/uk-teachers-fear-students-will-join-islamic-state-but-wont-tell-police
M Jones says
Important footnote:
Labour leader (now departing) Ed Milliband went to this school
antonia says
The School is in the Royal Borough of Kensington and Chelsea. Immigrants from troubled countries were not only welcomed,but publicly housed in very sought-after housing. Often ahead of many UK people on long waiting lists. How vulnerable…perhaps bullied young men felt such unexplained hatred beggers belief. Its almost like they were groomed…rather like Peadophiles…diseased ideas planted into their minds,reminiscent of “Sleepers”.Hypnotised to “Rise up” when called upon to do so by Devils disguised as Clerics? Seriously,do they really believe they will go to Paradise by Killing Allah’s creations. Wake up and practice the love of Prophets if you seiously want to contribute to the world. PEACE.