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UK: Local Muslims “shocked” by conviction of Muslim on terror charges

May 27, 2015 10:13 pm By Robert Spencer

Read the imam’s remarks carefully. “We need to find out how to engage the minds of the youth, regardless of religion, we need to engage them so we can curtail problems before they happen.” Regardless of religion? How many non-Muslims have gone to join the Islamic State? The imam doesn’t say a word about what he teaches in his mosque, and how it may or may not gibe with what Ashiq believed to be his Islamic responsibilities. And he asks, “what can be done as a society” about the problem — again deflecting attention away from the question of whether he is teaching against the Islamic State’s understanding of Islam within his mosque — which he almost certainly is not doing.

“Islam promotes peace and harmony among communities. You can’t be a proper Muslim without promoting peace in the community in which you are living.” Oh, well, that’s reassuring!

More on this story. “Coventry’s Muslim community ‘shocked’ after young Foleshill man convicted of terrorism offences,” by Simon Gilbert, Coventry Telegraph, May 27, 2015:

Coventry’s Muslim community has been left shocked by the news that a Foleshill man has been jailed for six years for terrorism offences.

Zakariya Ashiq, from Foleshill, was jailed after he was arrested at Heathrow in November having returned from a failed trip to become a martyr for Islamic State in Syria.

Dr Abdullah Shehu, chairman of Coventry Muslim Forum, told the Telegraph said it is difficult to spot the signs of radicalisation – but that recent incidents had made the community think about what more could be done.

Three other Coventry men were also reported as having travelled to fight for Islamic State in Syria just over a year ago.

He said: “One is rather shocked about what has happened in terms of the three boys who went to Syria and now this.

“It suddenly rings a bell in the community and it makes us think ‘what can be done as a society?’

“Parents try their best and communities do what they can do but their may be forces beyond our understanding in terms of what goes on in a young student’s mind.

“There is access to information from all over the world, it’s very difficult to curtail it. They can access it without the knowledge of their parents and they might not give any sense of that at all.

“We all have responsibility in terms of how to combat it and understand it.”

He added: “We need to find out how to engage the minds of the youth, regardless of religion, we need to engage them so we can curtail problems before they happen.”

But Dr Shehu said he did not believe the city had a problem with young men being radicalised, despite allegations from the father of one young man who travelled to Syria that he had been “brainwashed” at a mosque in Coventry.

He said: “As far as I’m aware the police are investigating. Without them coming out and saying there’s a strong lead we don’t have that evidence to comment on it.

“It is not something that the community has said is definitely happening, otherwise it would have been dealt with. Coventry hasn’t got anything to worry about from what we know.”

He added: “Coventry is a very peaceful city, I don’t think you will find a more peaceful city in terms of how people get on.”

Dr Shehu also condemned the actions of those who resort to terrorism.

He said: “Islam promotes peace and harmony among communities. You can’t be a proper Muslim with out [sic] promoting peace in the community in which you are living.”

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  1. tilda says

    May 27, 2015 at 10:30 pm

    “…allegations from the father of one young man who travelled to Syria that he had been “brainwashed” at a mosque in Coventry.”

    Why is this not incitement to commit a crime? (And investigated and prosecuted as such.)

    • John says

      May 27, 2015 at 10:45 pm

      It won’t be investigated because to do so would be a far greater crime than the genocide and pedophillia these Muslims wish to practice for the glory of Allah and his favorite cross dresser Qathem.

  2. thelmalou says

    May 27, 2015 at 11:38 pm

    The imam says a proper Muslim promotes peace. And yet other Muslims believe a proper Muslim is a warrior. Who gets the final say? I still agree with the adage (Spencer’s I believe) The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim.

    • Emjay See says

      May 28, 2015 at 12:51 pm

      ANY English Iman, who has studied in UK and not part of the Saudi paid ones, will advocate Peace, even though parts of the Koran can be read differently – often to suite the reader. I’m not a muslim

    • Lee says

      May 28, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      Muslims *always* talk in code, to manipulate the infidels. When they talk of “peace”, they mean peace in the sense the Nazis meant – naturally, a peaceful society is the ultimate goal. They just forget to mention that “peace” is to be achieved at the expense of our lives.

  3. Westman says

    May 28, 2015 at 12:13 am

    How many young pre-Jihadists who never listened to a Friday Mosque sermon, went to fight with ISIS?

    How many Jehovah’s Witness’ were overcome by the ISIS online message, converted, and went on Jihad?

    How many secular Western youth said to themselves, “I want to cut off some heads!”, and went on Jihad?

    Regardless of religion, only Muslims join ISIS to cut off heads, limbs, and lose common sense.
    Perhaps Jihadists could be seen as becoming mindless; “Virtually Beheaded” by Islam.

    • particolor says

      May 28, 2015 at 6:18 am

      Its like trying to act and go about Your Normal business as usual, while surrounded by Packs of Jackals and Hyenas !! 🙁 Or in Australia Crocodiles and Funnel Web Spiders !!
      Nothing to Fear ?

      • Cicero says

        May 28, 2015 at 3:22 pm

        What is striking (!) about this Muslim,s comments is that the General Britsh public takes it as face value and does not. challenge or even question this Muslim”leader”.

        It is just the same old “move along folks, nothing to see here!”.

        I have been told by a friend that they were on a British tram and observed a slightly built young man possibly from the Horn of Africa . He was listening to something on his earphone and whirling a set of blue prayer beads. Around his right index finger. My friend became fascinated ,nay almost fascinated by the beads as they swung around- it was as if. The young man was performing some kind of ceremonial war dance with his right index finger. The beads flashed round in a whirl of azure blue.
        Suddenly the young man stopped looked my friend in the eye and said “hey you why are you staring at me . Turn around otherwise you will get burnt”. My friend sat there mesmerised. The young man let out a fierce growl as. if uttering a war cry .” Shaitan! ” he snarled.
        My friend jumpd up and moved along the tram corridor. A young black woman was sitting adjacent to the Islamic would be warrior. He showed her the Koran. ” do you know his book?” He said I what he must have thought wasa charming smile but which looked like the grimace of Death. ” what is it” she asked shyly. ” the Holy Koran” he roared.
        The young black woman jumped up from her seat and as she dashed out of the tram said loudly” I read the Bible.Do you know that book?”

        It is through small interactions such as these that we raise the consciousness of the sleeping British public . As for the young black man pimping the Unholy Koran. My friend felt uneasy that such Muslim men are parading through the Britsh public thoroughfare and assuming that it is their Allah -given rightto bark orders at the kafir with the expectation that they must be obeyed.

        Come on Brtisn buckle up your sandals daub your face with woad wiled the sword of. The mighty Sir Galahad.

  4. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    May 28, 2015 at 12:54 am

    Muslims are ALWAYS “Shocked” and in “Denial” when one of their OWN is Caught, Fighting in Islam’s Bloody Jihad.

    As to “the imam’s remarks carefully. “We need to find out how to engage the minds of the youth, regardless of religion…”, America’s Obama Administration HAS the “Answer” already – it’s called “Jobs for Jihadists”.

    http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/03/09/jobs-for-jihadists-mr-obama-poverty-doesnt-create-terrorism-ideology-does.html

  5. rightrightright says

    May 28, 2015 at 1:48 am

    ‘He added: “Coventry is a very peaceful city, I don’t think you will find a more peaceful city in terms of how people get on.”

    So they haven’t unveiled the mass rape of little English girls in Coventry yet?

  6. pdxnag says

    May 28, 2015 at 3:22 am

    The flip from so-called moderate (non-observant) Muslim to something less moderate is always accompanied by increased piety. More Islam more violence — against non-Muslims. The “community” to this Imam must be the Islamic Ummah, long term, after the extermination or enslavement of non-Muslims. Peace.

  7. jayell says

    May 28, 2015 at 5:31 am

    I’m not sure whether or not it’s just the muslims, but I have certainly noticed a tendency amongst newcomers to the UK from ‘Subcontinental areas’ to say they are ‘shocked’ when one of their ilk (or their family) is caught out in some kind of misdemeanour that experience and/or research would suggest might actually be some kind of ‘norm’ of behaviour in their culture. So one has come to deduce that the expression of ‘shock’ at something that might not actually be particularly abnormal might in itself be a symptom of a cultural tendency to be economical with the truth when it is felt necessary to invoke subterfuge in order to defend one’s collective reputation – or perhaps that should be, what one thinks others ought to see as ‘one’s collective reputation’, regardless of the realities. Which then begs the question as to how far one should trust the personal integrity of – shall we say? – individuals of certain cultural/religious persuasions. Not that I would like to suggest that the doctrines of ‘taqqyia’ and ‘kitman’, being apparent codifications for the practice of acceptable dishonesty within a noble religion such as Islam, would illustrate a case in point.

    And God forbid that it should be infered for one moment that I am suggesting that certain recent demographic additions to Western societies are little more or less than a load of bl**dy liars.

    • marty says

      May 28, 2015 at 5:48 am

      Well said.
      Mohammedans are bound to lie to us infidels as a religious duty.
      However, all immigrants from inferior civilisations have been encouraged in the UK by leftists not to integrate.
      The result has been entire English electoral constituencies delivered to a candidate whose main concerns have been village politics back home and nothing to do with the UK.
      One Bangladeshi MP visited the UK a couple of months back to instruct local Bangladeshi origin UK citizens how to vote in the UK elections.
      He boasted he can easily deliver several thousand votes for the UK party he indicated that they must support.
      Invariably Labour, of course.

      • jayell says

        May 28, 2015 at 6:35 am

        Hello Marty. May I quote you?….”One Bangladeshi MP visited the UK a couple of months back to instruct local Bangladeshi origin UK citizens how to vote in the UK elections.”…….But I’ve got a better one! When a load of Romanians moved into a neighbourhood somewhere in the Midlands and started misbehaving in a way that apparently is to be expected from them, the local Pakistani muslims became irate and started ‘educating’ them in how they should behave in England. Reading about things like that makes it difficult to control one’s body functions, doesn’t it?

  8. USMAN says

    May 28, 2015 at 6:01 am

    This means that the Muslim mind is already polluted by the Qur’an and so any little ignition by ISIS’s call to war easily sets them on rampage.

    • t. says

      May 28, 2015 at 9:06 am

      You’re right on, Usman!

  9. DP111 says

    May 28, 2015 at 6:06 am

    Coventry’s Muslim community has been left shocked by the news that a Foleshill man has been jailed for six years for terrorism offences.

    Oh no! Not shocked! Again.

  10. Angemon says

    May 28, 2015 at 6:47 am

    They’re always “shocked”, aren’t they?

    https://youtu.be/zl550aLTjgA?t=80

  11. Firebug says

    May 28, 2015 at 9:02 am

    He said: “Islam promotes peace and harmony among communities. You can’t be a proper Muslim with out [sic] promoting peace in the community in which you are living.”

    —————————————————————

    Maybe he’s Baghdad Bob’s brother.

  12. Satch1 says

    May 28, 2015 at 9:53 am

    To successfully win a battle with an enemy you first must KNOW your enemy–who he really is–what he believes and what his goal to obtain at your pearl. The Koran is not a book of peace as portrayed by Muslims but a book supplied to a false immoral thief and murdered who was deceived himself by Satan to put hate and killing in this book of Koran! Most Islam followers themselves haven’t read the whole book but only believe certain verses they are told to memorise. How few Americans have ever concerned themselves into looking at any verses in the Koran to see just who is the enemy? And wonder why? Satan hates the Jewish race because Jesus Christ came from and was a Jew who gave salvation and redemption for Sin! Islam has no accountability nor do they expect any judgement for their sins. They only expect virgins and elaborate feasts for their killing infidels [those Not Muslims] so they might control the whole world in a Caliphate under Sharia law. This is their ultimate goal–But Jesus who was resurrected from the dead and went to heaven to be with the Father- will return and in His wrath destroy All who are the enemies who cursed his favourite people, The Jews! Time is growing short for his return so prepare to see your redemption draw nigh. Pray for forgiveness and accept him!

    • Ephesian says

      May 28, 2015 at 12:20 pm

      Amen to that! Muslims are well and truly deceived by satan,that master of lies…..what horrors await them when on dying they realise they were deceived.

    • Cicero says

      May 28, 2015 at 3:29 pm

      Your opening comments are most astutely stated Satche 1. In order to efficiently engage with the enemy one must first get to know their mindset,their motivation, their belief systems. Inside- Out!. Let us all start by studying their one and only Holy Book of unholy injunctions and assertions.

  13. Manuel Paleologus says

    May 28, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    All these is just a bunch of crap meant to induce many naïve uneducated or unprepared people.
    Islam is not a religion to begin with and has nothing to do with peace and human dignity. Where there is islam there is rape, violence, social unrest, killing, beheading and this going on.

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