How did all these army recruits come to an understanding of Islam that British authorities assure us has nothing to do with Islam? British authorities remain uncurious about that.
“Almost 200 recruits withdrawn from army’s basic training amid jihadists fear,” by John Ward, Daily Star, May 10, 2015:
DANGER: Senior Ministry of Defence figures admit infiltration by potential terrorists is almost inevitable
The revelation has sparked fears terrorists may have infiltrated our armed forces.
MI5 agents already believe exBritish soldiers are fi ghting [sic] with Islamic State and may return to the UK to commit atrocities.
But the latest disclosure will fuel fears our services are being targeted by extremists.
Senior Ministry of Defence figures admit infiltration by potential terrorists is almost inevitable and is one of the reasons why security vetting is now treated so seriously.
A Freedom of Information request obtained by the Daily Star Sunday shows that in the last two years, 188 Army recruits were prevented from undertaking training for security reasons.
The recruits were all selected for training but had their applications rejected after they failed the security vetting process.
All recruits wanting to serve in the armed forces must undergo a series of background checks.
But additional counter terrorist checks are carried out on individuals with links to countries where a terrorist threat exists.
A senior defence source said the Territorial Army was especially prone to infiltration, particularly in areas such as Birmingham and Bradford where there are large Muslim populations.
The insider said: “The TA is desperate for recruits.You can pretty much turn up, fill in a few basic security vetting forms and then you are in. You can learn about fieldcraft, weapons handling and explosives very easily.”
Most recruits have access to small arms and undergo infantry training.
Sources also said terrorists could get greater benefi t [sic] from targeting selected units such as the Intelligence Corps, the Royal Engineers and logistics.
The TA’s Royal Engineers would give them access to explosives, while the Royal Logistics Corps would provide access to military fuel dumps and a fleet of tankers.
During the Ulster troubles, recruits with a Catholic background who came from Northern Ireland or the Irish Republic could face checks lasting months to ensure they had no links to terrorist groups.
The same checks are being applied to recruits with family or religious links to countries in the Middle East, Pakistan, Bangladesh and Nigeria.
The revelation comes months after it emerged terror chiefs had ordered jihadists to infi ltrate [sic] the British Army.
A manual used by Islamic State urged followers to join the Army and police to carry out attacks.
The manual explained how the atrocities committed in the Middle East – including the murders of British hostages David Haines and Alan Henning – were part of a wider strategy that includes plans to wreak mayhem in the UK.
The handbook, called the Management of Savagery, also revealed infi ltration operations had been going on for years.
umbra says
Unlike Northern Ireland, this present security problem may never abate until the cancer is removed entirely.
EYESOPEN says
Concur.
Shane says
Why would Muslims want to join a Crusader army? It is very suspicious. We have had Muslims traitors in the US military, the worst being Nidal Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter.
umbra says
Fitth column. Perhaps to perpetrate green on blue attacks as in afghanistan or or as you have said another Fort Hood. The biggest problem however is gaining access to sensitive information and NBC weapons. If any of these terrorists slips into command staff, MI or Nuke platforms/sites, it would be a complete disaster.
TH says
Britain has some of the best Special Forces in the world such as the SAS, SBS and Royal Marines. If jihadis could get the training that these units have, how many could they kill?
Angemon says
Shane posted:
“Why would Muslims want to join a Crusader army? It is very suspicious.”
Well, they would train with weapons and explosives and learn about combat tactics – useful stuff if they ever wanted to go jihadi. And remember the adage: “keep your friends close and your enemies closer”. If they rose in the ranks they could very well get access to privileged info.
jayell says
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I believe that UK troops have to swear an oath of alliegance to ‘Queen (or King) and Country’. How can any devout (or even not-so-devout) muslim rightly go along with that? Or perhaps some dhimmi idiot in Whitehall has geven them an opt-out?
Mark Breza says
It is so easy to catch an air ball.
What was the year the Patriots first won the Super ?
Bubble Blow Back !(-11 # nine
mortimer says
You’re a silly bugger. You’re also on drugs. Stop it, son.
underbed cat says
The infiltration has been going on for a long time in Europe..it was very sneaky, I had no idea that had happened to Europe a few years ago.They ignored history. didn’t listen to the warnings and were deceived by an organization that calmly denied jihad as a religious obligation and that meant subversion and violence when necessary. The riots, burning buildings, cars and killing caused terror and submission.
In the U.S. we have the problem too and it isn’t just the military. they have studied our organizations and place themselves in many high places including all branches of government , education, medical institutions, airports and media… And with the appearance of authority they become the mouthpiece to say they are peaceful. They want Sharia law to suppress free speech so we can’t expose the agenda. But it was exposed and after it was repressed it is about to change.
Judi says
underbed – they’ve even infiltrated the WH!!
underbed cat says
Thanks Judi…..for stating “they are in the W.H..”, yes incredible deceit.
Marty says
In the UK, most politicians pretend that they do not know that the enemy is within and growing
exponentially. IS, Taliban etc are abroad.
At least 5 million muslims that we know of are in the UK, and most are born here.
Mohammed/Mehmet is now the most popular boy’s name beating Harry etc to the number one spot.
I do hope the new, slightly conservative, government does something to reverse the steady islamisation of the UK
As we stand, the Saudis openly fund vile religious schools where British born kids are taught to hate all we stand for.
Incredibly, the UK government funds muslim state schools and the so called Church of England runs schools which are madrassas in all but name.
In Birmingham, the Trojan Horse gang are back at work perverting young minds, and there are still many hundreds of muslim child rapists at large.
The enemy is very much within our gates and getting no resistance, because the political classes, especially the BBC, pretend it isn’t happening.
Shane says
If Shillary Clinton becomes President, Muslims will have an agent in a very high position – Huma Abden.
mortimer says
Extreme inbreeding is a major cause of Muslim dysfunctionality and generalized low IQ.
Psychologist Nicolai Sennels studied this extensively.
According to Sennels, close to half of all Muslims in the world are inbred. In Pakistan, the numbers approach 70%. Even in England, more than half of Pakistani immigrants are married to their first cousins, and in Denmark the number of inbred Pakistani immigrants is around 40%.
In Denmark, non-Western immigrants are more than 300 percent more likely to fail the intelligence test required for entrance into the Danish army.
Sennels points out the difficulties this creates for Muslims seeking to succeed in the West. “A lower IQ, together with a religion that denounces critical thinking, surely makes it harder for many Muslims to have success in our high-tech knowledge societies.”
Xero_G says
Here’s a good opportunity to review Nicolai Sennels’ posting here at JW in 2013: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/09/nicolai-sennels-psychology-why-islam-creates-monsters
I haven’t heard much on this topic since, although it does appear on a few other anti-Jihad websites. Perhaps because it’s so politically incorrect (if indeed accurate) few will venture to discuss it. I’m not sure if Robert Spencer has even commented on it beyond its posting on Jihad Watch.
Is this issue of Muslim inbreeding (up to 70% in Pakistan!) something that needs to be explored further or something so toxic in these politically correct times that no one wants to touch it? It seems to explain a lot about the Jihadi mindset.
Sean says
Maybe they can have more luck as Tory candidates, Cameron is still looking for the next Muslim PM/Caliph
michaelwarden says
Pakistanis tend to marry first cousins – illegal in the UK so young girls are taken “on holiday” to Pakistan and come back married. I saw some data several years ago that suggested from a Pakistani population in the UK of 3%, there were around 30% of deformed births, either mental, physical or both.
Perhaps more up to date figures are available ( although that mad cow Theresa May has probably labelled the release of such figures as “not conducive to the public good”.)
Caroline says
First cousin marriage is not illegal in the UK, though it should be.
I had a Pakistani colleague who became a friend. She was under pressure from the family to choose a husband. The choice was a first cousin from Pakistan. I remember her filling out the visa application forms and I was shocked at how quick the process was. The cousin was duly imported into theUK for the marriage.
ECAW says
Assuming you can trust the Star’s story (you have to understand that it is right at the bottom of the newspaper foodchain) this is an interesting development.
Not long ago it was the case that there were more British Muslims fighting against Britain (with ISIS) than for her. It seems that British soldiers in Britain will now find themselves in the same situation as they did in Afghanistan. While engaging in exercises on Salisbury Plain and the Brecon Beacons, they will have to add one more factor to their decision making – ie does that one with the beard have a a blue on blue incident in mind?
It is another step in the inevitable process of polarisation whereby the indigenous population come to realise that they cannot risk trusting any Muslim because it just might be today that the Sudden Radicalisation Syndrome strikes.
I take a contrarian position on this development. I welcome it because I believe that, given our establishment’s relentless appeasement of a hostile ideology, polarisation and conflict between the two opposing camps is the least bad option we can hope for.
Oh dear.
pumbar says
Agreed sir.
Smart Guy says
Ah! The military. Military wisdom will trump all the political nonsense being preached by the stupid politicians. So who are the real British patriots? If you cannot be classified as a patriot then you cannot
be classified as a citizen either and only citizens should have the vote.
Lia Wissing says
Late, yes, but better late than never (think USA). Keep going, UK! Mrs/Miss/Ms May, can we hear from you re all the new laws?
Baucent says
If 188 recruits have been vetted and rejected for “security concerns”, then that’s a good development. But it’s the “sleeper” recruit who has no incriminating Facebook profile, that is a worry. I’ve seen the video of Cameron telling a muslim audience he is looking forward to the day when a muslim leads the British Army. Many others are not.
Georg says
“I’ve seen the video of Cameron telling a muslim audience he is looking forward to the day when a muslim leads the British Army.”
What embarrassing lunacy. How convenient that as they’re heading to pasture they’ll only get the beginning of the havoc they sent down the pipe. And for what?
Whiskey and Pork Rinds says
Are the Brits actually smartening-up?
Michael Copeland says
“Personally, I don’t trust one Muslim in our military,” said Rep. Rick Womick, Air Force veteran.
“[I]f they truly are a devout Muslim, and follow the Quran and the Sunnah, then I feel threatened because they’re commanded to kill me.”
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2011/11/15/tenn-state-rep-i-dont-trust-one-muslim-in-our-military/
dumbledoresarmy says
Looks like there’s a few signs of hope here and there.
Some more people like Rep Womick getting elected to congress – and then there’s Senator Cotton, don’t forget – and I think you actually have a chance.
duh_swami says
The handbook, called the Management of Savagery,
That’s the Quran, ainit?
The short answer to a longer problem is that no Mahoundian should be allowed in any kuffar military…The conflict of interest is obvious and can be dangerous.
dumbledoresarmy says
A small glimmer of commonsense creeping in.
Easy enough for Islamosavvy folks at various levels of the military to screen out identifiable Muslims. Can’t do much about the Nu’aym bin Mas’uds – converts who are concealing their conversion – but you can keep out all the others.
Further point: it should be noted that what is being talked about in this article – the so-called “Territorial Army” is *not* the regular, career or professional military; it isn’t what we usually think of when we think of the British Army.
It is, rather, the equivalent of what in Australia is called the Army Reserve. See here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_Reserve_(United_Kingdom)
Further thought, in light of this passage from the article – “The TA is desperate for recruits.You can pretty much turn up, fill in a few basic security vetting forms and then you are in. You can learn about fieldcraft, weapons handling and explosives very easily.”
Most recruits have access to small arms and undergo infantry training.”
Righto.
Dear British jihadwatchers: here’s your opportunity, if you are of the appropriate age and able-bodied – **you** join the Territorial Army pronto and get the military and weapons training that you may well one day need to save your homeland (we hope it won’t come to that, but as the Scout motto goes – Be Prepared).
If you are not able-bodied or are too old, then: by all means, if you know younger people who *are* able-bodied and have some free time or might be willing to devote time…and who have heeded your warnings about Islam…encourage *them* to join. Urge them to join.
The more Islamosavvy Infidels join the Territorial Army the better! Fill its ranks with smart Islamosavvy British infidels.
Go for it!
mister m says
Pretty interesting video, you now american have a new Geert Wilders call State Rep. Womick.
full video there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8JnYAlnXaDA
On my part maybe the threat will come for american from the north (Canada) someday.
Eric brazeau a Canadian who do thing like M.Spencer and Mme. Geller was jailed…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVwfoAl7GSM
Last thing would it be better to directly send a donation or buy one of your book ?
A book can be passed to non-believer haahah
Whiskey and Pork Rinds says
If they are not safe enough for the military they are not safe enough for the society. Western countries need to seriously look at the tough question of deportation and admit that the multicultural experiment fails for a group who is openly hostile to western democratic liberal ideas and refuses to integrate.
Brian says
It’s about time the British army is waking up…however, there will now be a political backlash and you will see UK politicians (on the Saudi payroll) saying the army is Islamophobic and demanding it recruits more Muslims.
Abu Janyil says
I repeat for the umpteenth time that the western world may pay dearly for relegating the Christian faith and opening their doors wide to islam in the name of human rights and liberalism.
Betty says
I have to hole hearty agree with you.
Mark says
https://youtu.be/o_qYcJ-GSZc
Darren says
That’s hard to believe, why would the Vatican create their own worst enemy? How many formerly Christian lands were conquered by islam? You would think if the church wanted to expand their power base, they would choose a better method.
JamesonRocks says
I hope the U.S. military services are looking at this.
Mark says
This is surprisingly good news. I would have expected anyone suggesting that a Muslim applicant be rejected would have been accused of islamaphpbia and told to shut up.
Vox populi says
Looks lik UK is irrevocably and finally gone with the wind.
Luckily, is an island, and islam will be somehow confined there for a while, the time to get organized in the continent …
pumbar says
Yeah, you are right once again. Luckily,is an island. Clever fellow.
rcourtemanche says
Very sensible move which should emulated by the whole country.