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Video: Robert Spencer on Newsmax TV on the Texas jihad attack

May 6, 2015 9:06 pm By Robert Spencer

About an hour after our bout here, Newsmax TV’s Ed Berliner and I sparred another round on his Hard Line show.

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  1. Bill says

    May 6, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    The Newsmax dhimmi is a dhimmi. The antagonism that so many Americans have for Pam Geller and her Cartoon Exposition demonstrates how almost hopeless it is to resist Sharia. I blame people like this dhimmi. I hold them responsible for what is coming upon us from Islamic savages.

    • spot on says

      May 7, 2015 at 6:32 am

      We often overlook that people we see on TV, like Ed Berliner, were born with a commanding voice and the right looks. After years of training that voice, they made it to the TV screen. It is not that much different than the person born with a singing voice. Their focus is on their voice. Their minds were not trained accordingly. They become analogous to a vehicle with a 600 HP engine and a 100 HP steering wheel. They earn their living because of their voice but not their mind. There are so many other broadcasters with this same problem and most of us learn who they are after a while. This is why I was so surprised at Greta Van Sustrand for taking her ridiculous stand; but I forgot that she is a liberal and that is another subject.

      We somehow intuitively impart brilliance to the person with a commanding voice. This is a great error on the part of human nature and is a major cause of the political and social problems we face today. With all of our video mass communications, it can only get worse.

      The reason we have not had a problem with Muslims for centuries is that we have been greatly superior to them technologically. Muslims are good at the long game and we are good at the short game. If their long game becomes technologically superior to ours, we can be completely defeated by them. Iran is working on the technology for their long game. Robert and Pamela are working on our cultural long game. With mass the communication that we have, it is difficult to impart the simplest important ideas sometimes. Especially to a person with a commanding voice and little knowhow.

      Robert and Pamela are the very best we have in this cultural long game fight because they understand and can communicate about the enemy so very well. Ed Berliner doesn’t even know who the enemy is. We need to support Robert and Pamela, who are great persons for everything they do.

      • PatnTrucks says

        May 7, 2015 at 3:42 pm

        Spot on Mr. Spot on! Robert and Pamela are so right on our protecting our Freedom of Speech and Expression. This art is expression. I can’t beleive this dimmini sits there in that Big Voice Empty Head and says at the end of the interview, ‘hoping nobody else gets hurt” to Mr. Spencer. Robert is always so cool and well spoken. The verdict at the end of the day: We Live in America and We have Freedom of Speech: Our Idiot Jihadists sought to kill people up ended up on the wrong side of the MORGUE! So, they should not attack people in a meeting, try to blaze thru a line of police officers to KILL THEM ALL for Jihad! No one would have got hurt had these MOHAMMADAN ISLAMIC STOOGIES stayed home and practiced something about the ””religion of peace””(pffffttt!!!) Like, “Hey asshole! go pray or something! Get a job! Shave, already. Save your sorry selves from getting your muzzie asses shot up by the police.” I also entered a drawing in the contest #157. I was too ill to travel that day and I had ticket in hand. I am totally disappointed that people would rather let some followers of some scroungy pscyhopathic desert barbarian from 7th centruy backwards-ville stop us from saying or drawing anything. AND we know from the kooran – Muhammed didn’t LIKE ANY drawing, this is why his barbaric low IQ followers destroy art and statuary that are centuries old. Also, I financally support JihadWatch.com and encourage others to donate to both AtlasShrugs and JihadWatch – also buy an abridged koran from http://www.politicalislam.com – Dr. Bill Warner and be sure to catch the vidoes by David Wood on http://www.acts17apologetics on You Tube. Geez, I’m already working on my drawing for NEXT year!

    • RG says

      May 11, 2015 at 5:53 pm

      Hmmm…. My, my, how do I suddenly have the overwhelming urge to connect the name BERLINer to HITLer and HIMMLer???

      Hey, anybody who kowtows to muzzie rhetoric and hate-speech MIGHT JUST AS WELL BE A NAZI – ‘CAUSE HE SURE AIN’T NO RED-BLOODED AMERICAN!!!!!

      It seems obvious to me that Berliner is no more and no less than a loud-mouth showoff who likes to see himself regurgitate trash talk about trashy people! Oh, and this wouldn’t be the first time I changed the channel!!!!! Might as well watch the trashy Jerry Springer Show – it’s just about as informative, maybe more so!!!!

  2. Wellington says

    May 6, 2015 at 10:31 pm

    Tough call who was worse here, Ibrahim Hooper or Ed Berliner. Hooper because he is vile. Berliner because he is foolish. Yes, which is worse, an outright evil person or a foolish person who shills for evil? Reasonable minds can differ on this. My vote, though, would go to Berliner.

    As for Robert Spencer, he was as on point as ever. No one articulates the greatest problem of our age better than Robert Spencer. The wonder of it all is that most everyone does not see the wisdom and truth in Spencer’s statements. But many don’t. Still way too many don’t.

  3. KrazyKafir says

    May 6, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    One thing this event had done is reveal who the phony conservatives are, and there are quite a lot it seems. I’ve delete more than one link (forever) in my favorites.

  4. awake says

    May 6, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    In even a relatively peaceful sane and sentient world, no one should have to be subject to Islam abetting propaganda as Robert was subject to here. That said, it is a necessary ill as a teachable moment.

    Berliner’s initial admission, that there is a faction of Muslims that will murder in the name of Islam, all people non-Islamic and offensive to them, must be balanced by an equally “guilty” party who merely points out and validates Berliner’s admission, is the pinnacle of tragic irony.

    I understand that Robert needed to rely on logic, seemingly taking the high road, but I wish he would make a simple statement to his interlocutor, when asked an absurd question in the future.

    “Ed, personally I am deeply offended by that question as a personal attack on me and my beliefs. Does that now give me the right to target you for death, or do you recognize the error of your ways and summarily apologize and promise to never transgress into offending me again?”

    Surreal.

  5. Katherine says

    May 6, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    The gutsy defending the gutless.
    Thank you Robert.

  6. Robert says

    May 6, 2015 at 11:50 pm

    What Robert Spencer should have asked this guy was, “Do you believe that Muhammad was the infallible prophet of Allah who was the best human being ever to live and whose teachings must be obeyed on pain of death?” When the guy said no, Spencer should then have said, “Fine. You are guilty of blaspheming Muhammad and their are Islamic jihadis out there who are now going to kill you. You really shouldn’t provoke them with your vile blasphemy.”

    • underbed cat says

      May 7, 2015 at 10:35 am

      In response to Robert says, yes,yes that a good one. Then when Ed Berliner calculates the “tiny minority” he will understand he needs more information about this subject.

      • Kilfincelt says

        May 8, 2015 at 12:05 am

        Right on! Believe me, I have tried to get through to Berliner but he is very naive when it comes to Islam and what any number of his Muslim guests tell him. He thinks that they are telling him the truth when, in fact, they are practicing taqiyya.

        The person who has no problem confronting the truth about Islam on Newsmax is Steve Malzberg. He gets it! He has Robert and Pamela on occasionally as well.

    • PatnTrucks says

      May 7, 2015 at 3:49 pm

      That was really really good! It takes nothing to ”’offend”” the followers of the mental demented founder of islam Muhamm. Walking a dog offends them – they’ve attacked British people walking a DOG by a mosque – howling at them, throwing rocks at them. Beat a woman senseless for walking her dog by their hate-filled mosque and the evil spoors lurking within looking for something to offend them. Good for Robert, Good for Pamela – GOOD for all the artists who showed up and submited artwork. Next year, I hope the number of drawings and paintings raises from 350 to 1,000. My cartoon drawing was #157.

  7. Clare says

    May 7, 2015 at 12:44 am

    Very good, Mr. Spencer, very good.

  8. Clare says

    May 7, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Robert Spencer, 6:20 mark
    It is a moral responsibility at this point that we stand up against violent intimidation and against those who say we should silence ourselves in the face of it and voluntarily adopt Shiria blasphemy restrictions. Look, I am not a Muslim. I don’t believe in Shiria blasphemy and I am not going to allow that law that I do not believe in to be imposed upon me and upon free people.

  9. Beagle says

    May 7, 2015 at 2:02 am

    I am assuming Robert did not suddenly jump up and spray Ed with bullets while screaming “You incited me by insulting my beliefs!” While I do not support that I think it really would have driven the point home.

    • Mirren10 says

      May 7, 2015 at 4:49 am

      🙂

  10. Proud Pork Fan says

    May 7, 2015 at 5:48 am

    Robert I am proud to have you as a spokesperson for the side of freedom and against the appeasement of religious fascism. I am blown away by how brain-washed this country is. I hope the tide will turn soon.

  11. I Iat says

    May 7, 2015 at 5:58 am

    It’s not a “very small faction” Mr. Berliner. If 1 in 10.000 (0.01%) is doing what the koran tells him/her to do you have a huge problem and in fact a shooting war in your country.

    It’s not “a tiny minority” Hooper and you know it.

    http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/

  12. albert says

    May 7, 2015 at 6:02 am

    I agree with everything that has been said on other posts about race, I think everyone should be aware that the jihadis supporters like Ibrahim Hooper are looking for any scraps of misinformation which would enable them to cast unbelievers as racist, the truth is that many thousands of black African and other ethnic people are being slaughtered by these jihadis all over the world almost daily, neo Nazi racists have no place on this or PG’s site, all I can say is thank goodness we have two people like Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller to represent the decent people of the world.

  13. duh_swami says

    May 7, 2015 at 6:49 am

    Berliner is just another member of ‘The Army of the Dead’…Useless and should just be ignored…

  14. Veritas says

    May 7, 2015 at 9:47 am

    Dear Mr. Spencer and Ms Geller:
    Good job and continue fighting for the first amendment. Mr Berliner needs to reexamine the Constitution on the wall behind him and interpret it in light of the Declaration of Independence. The cartoons I have seen are satire and not profane. Where is the beef? However, this is different from piss Christ which was not satirical. I wouIld demonstrate against any profanity which is my right just as someone can engage in the profane piss Christ exhibits.
    We need to here the specific multitude of koranic verses that incite Muhammadens to violence. I agrue that the Koran should not be protected speech as there can be limits on speech that incite people to imminent violence. It would also be Sedition in the Constituition to replace our form of government with Sharia Law or Islamic State government that violates our Constitution. If we can kick out Tories and Commies we should be able to kick out Islamists. Thank you Robert and Pam for your service.

  15. vlparker says

    May 7, 2015 at 9:47 am

    A liberal mind is a terrible thing……….

  16. Ricky Black says

    May 7, 2015 at 11:01 am

    Tried to do Jihad in Texas? You must be a special kind of stupid \o/

  17. JihadThis says

    May 7, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    Stop blaming the victims:
    https://youtu.be/HNydyGM3fBo

  18. El Cid says

    May 7, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    Finally, I found some people who have a true understanding of Islam, yes, Islam, which is to say the Koran and the hadiths.
    I knew beforehand (because I have read the hadiths, decades ago) that this event would result in death threats.
    May St Michael protect you and Pam from all evil, especially the heretical Islamists. Yes, they are heretics.
    We cannot bow to Islam, not ever, not once. We bow only to the Trinity, three persons in one God. This fear of offending Islamist is what they want, this is what they expect. You give them victory when you cower people. Do not give them what they want.

  19. Michael Copeland says

    May 7, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    Ed Berliner – of the commanding voice – makes the error, a common one, of attributing freedoms to Islam, assuming that muslims have some choice over what to believe in. They do not. They are REQUIRED to hold certain beliefs and are NOT ALLOWED variation or reduction. An Iranian who hosted Koran discussions in his house put forward the suggestion that the story of Jonah in the whale be taken symbolically. He was hanged. There is no freedom of conscience in Islam. The Koran, part of Islamic law, makes clear in 33:36:
    “It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Messenger to have any option about their decision:”

    Berliner makes the further error of linking the readiness to kill with allegedly hurt feelings.
    “There are people who are that insulted who do feel … they will kill for that.”

    Berliner is keen to excuse the majority of muslims. He asserts, without expert knowledge, and without having conducted a survey,
    “There’s a very small faction who believe …this is a fringe group, if you will, this is on the outside…”

    It is erroneous to assume that the readiness to kill is a “belief”, whether held by “a very small faction” or not. Killing is authorized by Sharia law. The Manual of Islamic Law , “Reliance of the Traveller”, dictates that “to revile Allah or his messenger” is a death penalty offence (o8.7(7)). Any passing muslim may, as a RIGHT, and without any repercussion, carry out the killing, vigilante style, “since it is killing someone who deserves to die” (o8.4). The Charlie Hebdo jihad murderers knew this well,
    “If someone offends the Prophet no problem, we can kill him”, one said over the telephone (BBC subtitles).

    Allegedly hurt feelings are a deliberate distraction. This conflict arises from one system of law, the totalitarian Sharia, which is at variance with United States law, being imposed by force. It has to be resisted by force. Hence the middle syllable of “enforcement” in “law enforcement”.

    The Manual is a free download:
    http://www.islamicbulletin.org/free_downloads/…/reliance2_complete.pdf
    It is also available as a book (easier to consult), which makes a very influential present.

  20. Plamen says

    May 7, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    Why so vast is the conviction that it Must be accepted that it is So Normal that Muslims get angry when somebody draws bearded sketches of their man, and is So normal that then they resort to ‘revenge’ and even kill.

    And, why so vast is the conviction that it Must be accepted that it is So Natural that Christians Do not get angry when somebody draws bearded sketches of their Jesus, and is So normal, too, that they should never resort to revenge it?

  21. Loach says

    May 7, 2015 at 4:15 pm

    hope there is symelor exhibitions all over America

  22. Joe Shmo says

    May 7, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    Well spoken and argued Robert.

  23. AnnInquirer says

    May 7, 2015 at 5:22 pm

    Did MKL poke the KKK in the eye to be personally responsible for the 4th St. Church bombing and the death of 4 girls? The media sure did not come with with the blame being on King then.

    • TheBuffster says

      May 8, 2015 at 2:34 am

      Good point, AnnInquirer. The peaceful Martin Luther King and his followers sure did rile up a lot of racists who beat and murdered a fair number of people engaged in saying things the racists didn’t like, pushing for rights the racists didn’t want to recognize. Why, King could be held responsible for provoking his own murder on the premise of the argument being used against Pam and Robert.

      Ah, but the people doing the criticizing don’t believe Freedom of speech is all that important, or they don’t believe it’s really being threatened, or that there are enough jihad-friendly, Sharia-aiming Muslims in the world to be a real threat. They think you can give a little slack, submit in one area, and that will satisfy the people who are eager to die fighting in Allah’s cause. They don’t see how the abridgement of rights works. They don’t get the part of human nature that’s operative within those who follow Mohammed’s example.

      They don’t get that when you appease a tyrant, it only encourages him to push his agenda even harder, demand even more of you. He sees that you’re weak, afraid, not ready to fight. Easy pickins.

  24. Foolster41 says

    May 7, 2015 at 6:24 pm

    Spencer gives good reasons not to trust CAIR (links to CAIR, urging to not talk to FBI, lack of any substance to stop co-religionists).
    Host: “But people call you a hate group!”

    Does he really not see the difference between making a claim and having evidence? I thought he was a journalist. Silly me! Show should be called “hard left line”

    • Foolster41 says

      May 7, 2015 at 6:26 pm

      “Links to CAIR” Should have read “links to HAMAS. “

  25. Jim says

    May 7, 2015 at 7:02 pm

    I found it interesting that the Local Muslim community did not turn out to protest the Free-Speech event as was their right to do. Since the intention of the Muslim Terrorist Gunmen to attack the art exhibit was apparently Tweeted out by the Jihadis beforehand, and it is likely that the Texas Muslims would have therefore been aware of the imminent attack, do you think the local Muslims tactically decided it would be best to not show up at the event to protest as that may implicate them into the Terrorist attack.

    If they were aware of the imminent attack then why would they not (as good citizens) warn the police that there were gunmen on the way. Perhaps the local Texan Muslims weren’t aware of the Tweets, but it is also possible they preferred to stay out of the crossfire and allow their Jihadi Bretheren to do their Holy Murdering without hindrance and without the locals attracting condemnation. I heard one Imam saying that it wasn’t them, it was someone from out of town.

    I believe the Sicilian Mafia often employed out of town hit-men to do their killing for them as well, as it creates a Buffer-Zone of plausible deniability giving the ones who wanted the killing done the ability to say ‘it wasn’t me’.

    I understand there was a Supporting a Prophet Rally or Meeting in the same Venue some few weeks before the Free-Speech Art-Exhibit, but I do not recall hearing if any masked gunmen showed up to murder the participants, but merely that some people protested outside the event in a peaceful manner, as is the right and proper way to show ones opposition to speech you do not agree with…..more speech, not Gun Violence, murder, and threats of intimidation.

    I urge you members of the Deen of Muhammad who are reading this, to leave your backward, un-evolved, violent religion and come out of your caves of dark age ignorance into the pluralistic light of the modern world. If Atheism is too far a leap for you, then at least switch over to any other religion, as any of those are safer for those around you, than Islam. The more religious you are a muslim the more dangerous you are in the world.

    • TheBuffster says

      May 8, 2015 at 2:41 am

      Even if the local Garland Muslims didn’t see or hear about the tweets, they know as well as anybody else what some of their co-religionists are capable of. Perhaps they wouldn’t want to take the risk of being there so as not to be implicated in violence, or even shot dead by stray bullets.

  26. Beth says

    May 7, 2015 at 10:06 pm

    You would think that the reporters would be defending Robert and Pamela – not for ideological reasons – but for the right to speak (or draw) their opinions (opinions that do not teach people to go out and kill), – regardless of whether someone else likes it or not.

    It is one the greatest shows (and not a good one) that I have ever witnessed in my lifetime – to watch these reporters display such ignorance – even to their own demise (eventually) to which, they seem not able to comprehend. They have submitted to sharia law – and they don’t even know it.

    • TheBuffster says

      May 8, 2015 at 2:46 am

      What do you expect from a group who, by a large measure, has already surrendered to the pressures of Political Correctness? If they’re too cowardly to step out of line and investigate the world outside the PC bubble – because they might have to join the unpopular kids at the corner table if the truth turns out to be not so PC – then they sure aren’t going to stand up to the gang with the guns.

  27. Julia says

    May 8, 2015 at 2:44 am

    Wow! Robert Spencer’s answers to those aggravating questions were flawless. He really knows how to reign in logic and stay on point when talking to the exasperating, linear-thinking-impaired media. Bravo!

  28. TheBuffster says

    May 8, 2015 at 2:52 am

    But one thing you have to give people like Ed Berliner: they let Robert and Pamela have their say. They don’t cut them off or edit them. They aren’t so afraid of the popular kids or the gang with the weapons that they refuse to give a fair hearing to the kids at the lunchroom geek table.

    And besides, they ask the kind of questions that a lot of their audience would be asking. That’s actually their job and those are the questions that we have to be able to answer.

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