Al Azhar—arguably the Islamic world’s most prestigious Islamic university—continues to incite Egypt’s Muslims against Christians. Most recently the university was exposed distributing a free booklet dedicated to discrediting Christianity, chock full of direct attacks on Christianity in general and the nation’s Coptic Christians in particular.
Christianity is referred to as a “failed religion,” while Islam is hailed as the true and superior religion.
Because the “seeds of weakness” are inherent in Christianity and the Bible, says the booklet, Islam was easily able to supplant it in the Middle East.
Angemon says
Translation: might makes right.
mortimer says
Historians believe the Arab invasion of Syria and Persia would have failed had they tried it 20 years later. The Byzantine and Persian courts were both simultaneously politically in disarray in the late 7th century. The Arab raiders met little resistance and no countermeasures knocked them out once established. It was a lucky moment for the Arabs, that’s all. No trace of ‘Islam’ existed. It was a bunch of brigands, similar to the Vikings…think of Vikings on camels.
RonaldB says
You have good information.
The accounts I read say that both the Byzantines and the Persians were exhausted from fighting each other.
The same thing happened in Greece. Sparta and Athens carried out continual warfare. Finally, Phillip of Macedon, a minor province, was able to sweep up the entire Greek region.
The United States now is build on a fragile structure. Our entire communications systems, our transportation, our electrical grid, our financial institutions…all are based on electronic technology which is extremely vulnerable to simple electro-magnetic pulses. Our government is becoming increasingly centralized, with virtually unlimited authority going to the executive in cases of emergency and very fuzzy provisions to limit the powers of an executive who decides to keep power.
Our civil defense is virtually non-existent. There are no shelters, no food or medical provisioning, and no civilian hardening of electronic communications.
So, if we get into a conflict with a strong opponent like Russia or China…we become even more vulnerable than we are. We already have a strong presence Muslims, who are well-organized into multiple groups and organizations, most of them under the Muslim Brotherhood or funding sources in Saudi Arabia or Qatar.
Islam is an opportunistic infection. I remember a line from the TV series “Columbo”. As near as I remember: “You’re smarter than I am. But, remember this: I can keep on making mistakes, but all I need is for you to make one mistake.”
Sabri S. says
No kaffir…right makes ISLAM.. which makes everything right.
Given the immorality, bloodlust, and militarization of western
Societies, you have to admit muslims are right on point here….
Angemon says
The deficient muslim posted:
“right makes ISLAM.. which makes everything right.”
Yeah, just look how “right” islamic-majority countries are: Afghanistan, Pakistan, Sudan, etc. All places people – muslims included – are dying to get away from.
“Given the immorality, bloodlust, and militarization of western
Societies, you have to admit muslims are right on point here…”
That’s a laugh, considering that it’s the islamic state who allows raping little children,has been brutally slaughtering innocents and is on a warpath. All according to islamic history and tradition.
Speaking of the IS, when are you leaving to join them? Remember: no marks in body from waging jihad = deficient muslim.
Kepha says
Sabri:
马不知其脸长。A horse doesn’t know that his own face is long (the pot calls the kettle black). Muslims are fine ones to talk about the immorality, bloodlust, and militarization of Western societies, when their own regard a pedophile, mass-murdering Hijazi warlord as the “perfect man”.
Champ says
“Savage S.OA” is a lost cause serving an evil cause: islam.
Godwin says
I think a failed religion is a religion with many of its followers fighting n killing each other as happens in the ME on a grand scale and has produced millions of starving refugees. Yes, this religion is superior in mob justice, suicide bombings, wife-beating, child-marriages, honor-killing, apostate-killing, tribal warfare n bullying of the minority fellow human.
mortimer says
Exactly. The Muslim Brotherhood experiment of ‘pure Islam’ is what failed…everyone in Egypt knows that Islam has failed…failed to produce any answer except 7th century barbarism!
This foolish pamphlet is trying to distract people from the overall failure of Islam which is even more abundantly clear when they look at the spectacular failure of ISIS.
The only thing Islam proposes is discriminatory, misogynistic Sharia law. Sharia is an obvious, flagrant failure bringing poverty, barbarism, ignorance, disease and backwardness.
somehistory says
Absolutely. A *religion* or *faith* should lift the human up, to be a better person, kinder, more loving and understanding. If the religion teaches its adherents to kill, rape, etc. and to be the worst of all humans can produce in themselves, it has failed. But this is exactly what islam does because it originates from satan. Worship of the beast, the dragon, satan couldn’t be any worse than is islam.
Bender says
This offends me!
Westman says
Me too!
I know someone who can make the signs like, “Disco Will Rule Egypt” and “Behead Those Who Slander Pork”
Let’s demonstrate!
jorge says
This is the difference between islam, a false religion of satan, and Christianity, the true faith revealed from Our Father in Heaven. For when satan tried to tempt our Lord for the third time, he offered Him power over all kingdoms on earth, yet our Lord rejected such worldly temptation. In another instance Jesus said, that His Kingdom is not of this world. Saint Paul referred to satan as the “god of this world”. Yet islamic doctrine exhorts its followers to amass as much worldly power as possible. Islam even sees the accumulation of worldly power as evidence of its followers triumph. This is proof that islam truly is a satanic religion.
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
Al Azhar referring to “Christianity is referred to as a “failed religion,” while Islam is hailed as the true and superior religion”, IS the TYPICAL “Grand Deception” of Islam.
Islam:
1. Ues the “Grand Deception” of Taqyyia and Kitman to advance the cause Islam to gain the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.
2. Referring to Islam as a “Religion” is a misnomer, Islam IS an “Ideology”, and a total system of life and contains within itself a particular social system, judicial system, and political system which includes geo-political aspirations – the conquest and administration of territory. Islam is REALLY the “Religion of World Domination, Territorial Acquisition and HATE”, plus Islam is NOT a “Race”.
3. Islam does NOT represent “Peace”, much less a “Religion of Peace”, as Islamic Scholars and ISIS Caliph’s themselves state “There are NO “Moderate Muslims”, the Term Moderate Islam is an Insult to Islam, Islam was never a religion of peace, Islam is the religion of fighting”.
4. PLUS Islam’s Civilization Jihad Is the New Threat Posed by Muslim Brotherhood Inside America, Terrorism Experts Say.
http://thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths-of-islam.htm
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/the-muslim-brotherhood-in-america/
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
P.S. – Quite sure this “Christianity is referred to as a “failed religion,” while Islam is hailed as the true and superior religion”, PROBABLY works on Islam’s Muslims, since we are dealing with 7th Century Mentality “Retards”.
Westman says
Flattery for an insecure position is always accepted.
Nikiforos Fokas says
Al Azhar is a snake naste , an islamonazi institution and nothing else.
K says
Every single article on this site is aimed at discrediting Islam is it not? So let me get this right? You feel the need to express moral indignation because Al Azhar did (in your eyes) what you do everyday to Islam. Is that not double standards?
duh_swami says
My double triple, sometimes quadruple standards are simple…Never trust anyone who believes Allah is God.
Stardusty Psyche says
K,
Here is the best thing to occur at Al-Azhar that I am aware of
Westman says
That video copy appears to be hacked. Here is the original from MemriTV:
http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/4704.htm
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Westman,
I was having trouble with my flash player on Memri so I went to youtube. It seemed complete.
Are you saying something is missing from the youtube version?
Mirren10 says
”Every single article on this site is aimed at discrediting Islam is it not?”
Nope. It’s aimed at publicising the atrocities committed by muslims according to the tenets and commands of their islamic ‘faith’, which the msm rarely publishes, and if they do, suggests these atrocities are the fault of non-muslims for ‘provoking’ muslims.
islam does an excellent job of discrediting itself. All Mr Spencer has to do is report what muslims do.
”You feel the need to express moral indignation because Al Azhar did (in your eyes) what you do everyday to Islam.”
Do *you* feel the need to express any moral indignation over what is being done to Coptic Christians in Egypt, by muslims ? Done to Christians throughout the ME, by muslims ?
” … chock full of direct attacks on Christianity in general and the nation’s Coptic Christians in particular.” Coptic Christians are being **murdered and attacked every day** by pious muslims acting on the dictates of the koran.
Obviously not.
” … Al Azhar did (in your eyes) what you do everyday to Islam.”
Robert Spencer publishes articles describing the **actions and atrocities perpetrated by muslims according to the mandates and commands of the koran, hadiths, and sira.
Do you see Mr Spencer murdering, raping, torturing muslims ? According to the mandates and commands of the Christian Bible ?
You must be a muslim or a muslim apologist, since you are clearly unable to see the illogic and sheer blind stupidity of your remarks.
mortimer says
”Every single article on this site is aimed at discrediting Islam is it not?”
No, again. Every single article on this site is aimed at discrediting JIHAD!
The jihad doctrine is inseparable from Islam and what is most OBVIOUSLY WRONG with Islam.
Destroy jihad and you prove Islam is false. I argue that the amorality of JIHAD proves Islam is false.
voegelinian says
Unfortunately, mortimer’s unerring asymptotic instincts here are correct. Robert Spencer and his Jihad Watch, as Spencer himself has said more than once, are not anti-Islam. Jihad Watch should be anti-Islam — and it is unofficially only by unintended synecdoche put into living practice by the common sense of many (hopefully most) of the Jihad Watch readership (even if many of them can’t put two and two together) — but formally it’s not.
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“Unfortunately, mortimer’s unerring asymptotic instincts here are correct.”
C’mon, voeg. Is that the best backhanded compliment you can come up with? I’m disappointed with you!
“Robert Spencer and his Jihad Watch, as Spencer himself has said more than once, are not anti-Islam. Jihad Watch should be anti-Islam”
I suppose you know what JW should be, or not, better than its creator, right? Well voeg, if you don’t like what JW is, you can simply stop coming here. Oh, wait, not even getting banned several times stopped you. Where else would you promote your blog? Much easier to misrepresent someone, and nitpick at their work, more often than not making mountains out of imaginary dust specs, right?
Champ says
Vicious ‘voeg’ is attempting to discredit Robert Spencer — again, and quite poorly, I might add; since no one works *harder* than Robert Spencer to tell the truth about islam & company by exposing islamic supremacy worldwide — day in, and day out. And of course Pamela Geller, too.
You have seriously lost your way …
Angemon says
Champ posted:
“You have seriously lost your way …”
Alongside his sanity, I’d wager. Why does he keep coming back to a site whose stance on islam he clearly disagrees with, if not outright hates?
Champ says
Why does he keep coming back to a site whose stance on islam he clearly disagrees with, if not outright hates?
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That’s a fair question, Angemon. I don’t know — maybe he’s a paid internet shill. Nothing else makes sense to me.
CogitoErgoSum says
K, this site is about discrediting Islam by telling the truth about it. If you think Al Azhar discredits Christianity by telling the truth about it then you surely must believe the sun sets each evening in a pool of murky water.
Angemon says
K posted:
“Every single article on this site is aimed at discrediting Islam is it not? So let me get this right?”
Islam does a great job of discrediting itself. No need of any outside help. One reads the quran and one encounters such absurdities as the notion that the sun sets in a muddy pool. One reads the ahadith and encounters such absurdities as Satan sleeping in your nostrils.
“You feel the need to express moral indignation because Al Azhar did (in your eyes) what you do everyday to Islam. Is that not double standards?”
Huh? Do you see any article here saying something like “the seeds of weakness are inherent in islam, this is why they were beaten in Tours, Navas de Tolosa, Lepanto, and twice in Vienna”?
mortimer says
Al Azhar is arguing from the military victories of Islam. Angemon used the same argument against Islam. There are many other military defeats of Islam to mention: the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the demolition of the Baghdad empire by the Chinese, the defeat of the Mogal Empire in India, the Reconquista of Spain, etc.
mortimer says
Expressing a viewpoint is not wrong, but supporting and defending is another. The text from Al Azhar is like a proud, but weak opponent inviting a stronger contender to defeat him.
Someone should analyze their pamphlet and explode it. It should be easy to debunk…Islamic arguments are normally based on fallacies and bad interpretations, if not on invented ‘facts’.
Islam is the most egregious obscurantism based on a series of circular arguments and the ever-present fallacy of force instead of reasoned argumentation.
duh_swami says
They would like to make you believe Christianity is failing, but it is not. However it is under attack, or at least Christians are.
Al-Azar’s booklet will only appeal to Mahoundians who already believe Christianity is failed. No one else cares what Al-Azar’s opinions are about Christianity…
Westman says
—-Because the “seeds of weakness” are inherent in Christianity and the Bible, says the booklet, Islam was easily able to supplant it in the Middle East.—
Is that why Mekka has been protected by the “failed” Christian West and still doesn’t belong to Iran? Is that why the Renaissance brought advancements from Christian nations that the ME can buy? Is that why a Jewish-led team of Christians created the Atomic Bomb in less than three years while Iran has been “3 years from a bomb” for the past 10 years? Where was that cell phone and C4 developed? Where do your despotic leaders fly when having serious health problems?
Quran 3:110 –“Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had Faith(in Allah)…”
For some reason “the best of peoples” in the Middle East are being held back by a mysterious force, a dark force named — Islam.
The evidence is stark, Islamic nations are dysfunctional, and, discounting oil wealth, science and productive commerce failures.
A question remaining is: How long and how many deaths will be required for all the World to recognize that Islam is intellectually weak, inherently violent, and unfit for the progressive nations that will never accept it’s dysfunction?
Another question is: how long before Muslims realize there is no future for Islam?
Bowie says
Much of Islam was built on forced conversions so naturally the numbers would be higher and even now organizations such as ISIS use coercion to achieve their goals to build a worldwide caliphate.
mortimer says
The much vaunted strength they refer to is, as you point out, the ‘Argument of Force’ which keeps people from leaving once the discover the stupidity and amorality of this Death Cult.
Islam cannot be successfully defended in debate because Islam is so irrational, anti-intellectual, unhistorical and amoral.
voegelinian says
Al Azhar—arguably the Islamic world’s most prestigious Islamic university—continues to incite Egypt’s Muslims against Christians.
— and continues to be supported by the Great Egyptian Reformer who will save us all (at least us asymptotics) from Islam, the answer to ISIS, it’s respelling and reshuffling of letters, Al-Sissi.
Rob says
Isn’t this the school where Obama spoke after he became president?
Plamen says
“K” definitely is a muslim, sharing his shock of ‘islamophobia’.
Feeling in minority, he is sending a polite inquiry.
While in majority, he would send the Charlie Hebdo revengers.
Or, he wouldn’t mind if anyone else carries it out.
Wellington says
There is an admirable humility built into the Christian theological blueprint that is completely absent in the Islamic theological blueprint. This significant difference has a corollary effect which I would articulate as follows, with due regards extended to Lao-Tzu for inspiration here: Those who boast do not know; those who know do not boast.
Islam produces boasters by the bushel full—-and with threats, if not downright heinous actions, often accompanying the boasts. By contrast, Christians, while convinced theirs is the true faith (who would believe in a religion if they didn’t think so?), produce many who attest to its veracity and efficacy but, with very few exceptions, with nothing like the obnoxious boasting, preening, threatening and harming that Muzzies engage in regularly, which for me functions as just one more reason to look upon Christianity as a far superior religion to Islam.
I mean only a very confused person (this would include all Muslims and, unfortunately, not a small number of non-Muslims) would assert that the world would be much better off if all Christians converted to Islam rather than the other way around. I am certain that not a single regular commenter here at JW who grasps how profoundly troubling many Islamic doctrines are, regardless of their religious convictions or lack thereof, would disagree with me here.
quotha raven says
” I am certain that not a single regular commenter here at JW who grasps how profoundly troubling many Islamic doctrines are, regardless of their religious convictions or lack thereof, would disagree with me here.”
Wellington – While I am a lapsed Episcopalian who found many years ago a new ethical guide or “religion” in Plato’s “forms” – the good, the true and the beautiful – I have always thought Christianity a fine religion, useful for establishing and encouraging some ethical and moral baselines for peoples of the world, even though I am incapable of making the required “leap of faith” myself. Islam, a theocracy which cannot be compared with Christianity as a like entity, on the other hand, has struck me as destructive to human freedom, cruel, misogynistic, toxic, violent and repugnant since I first started to investigate the Qur’an and what it commends of its followers. Cheers! quotha
profitsbeard says
The Sword is sharper than the Cross. (The Star of David, Buddha’s Tooth, the Yin-Yang , et al).
Terror is a handy tool for maniacs when they wish to “convert” people to their dogma.
Hard to argue with a detached head.
Champ says
True — great comment, Profitsbeard! 🙂
Joseph says
But is it not ironic that the sword is used to cause death and the cross was used to conquer it.
Champ says
Bravo, Joseph!
Joseph says
@ Champ
By any chance would you also have a SP bug showing up on your screen?
It is quite annoying for it takes up space where posts that matter could have been.
Champ says
Joseph, no, I’m not having that issue. Sorry you’re dealing with that and it does sound very annoying. Perhaps a pc clean would fix that problem? I don’t know …
Joseph says
@ Champ
Look right below this post and you will see the SP bug. It is a nasty little critter!
Champ says
Oh ..good one, Joseph! 😀
Stardusty Psyche says
The cross was, and still is, at torturous execution device.
mortimer says
The removal of the head, the seat of the intelligence, is the PRINCIPLE GOAL of Islam…the creation of an army of brainless ZOMBIE KILLERS.
Raju G. C. Thomas says
Coptics are tolerant, accommodating and co-existential Christians.They should be allowed to live and function normally in Egypt. They are not trying to wipe out Islam in Egypt or impose themselves on Muslims. Egypt should practice religious tolerance and co-existence with Coptics. This is an essential principle and practice of democracy.
Stardusty Psyche says
It’s not all bad…this is one of the most moving videos I have viewed in some time…in support of Egyptian Christan
Jack Diamond says
Thanks for the return to elementary school. Muslims are to be equally harsh to the hypocrites (bad Muslims, what you call watered down). Muslims, following their model of conduct, act one way when they have the upper hand and another way when they are weak and vulnerable. That is the real meaning behind watered down. History is replete with examples of how fast the behavior changes when they do gain that upper hand. Those supposed non-Muslim Muslims who share kaffir values and do not know or reject the tenets of Islam–that chimera–will be of no help to us. Muslims always close ranks.
Jack Diamond says
this was a reply to your post below mine…