This makes three jihadis dead and two in custody for trying to murder Pamela Geller. Does anyone really think that these men would have lived peaceful and productive lives were it not for our Muhammad cartoon exhibit? Does anyone really think they were so “provoked” by that event that it led them to discard their former “moderation”? Does anyone really think that any of them would not have struck elsewhere, and tried to murder other people, had we not staged the event?
“RI Man Arrested In Connection With Boston Terror Investigation,” CBS News, June 11, 2015 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
BOSTON (CBS) – A Warwick, Rhode Island man has been arrested in connection with an alleged terror plot in Boston. The FBI says 24-year-old Nicholas Rovinski was arrested Thursday night.
The charges against Rovinski will be revealed when he appears in Federal Court in Boston on Friday.
Rovinski is the third man named in connection with the investigation. Authorities searched his home on Aspinet Drive in Warwick after the fatal shooting of Usaamah Rahim June 2 in Boston’s Roslindale neighborhood.
Officials say they tried to question Rahim after they intercepted a message suggesting he planned to carry out an attack on police officers. Rahim allegedly talked about beheading anti-Muslim blogger Pamela Geller before deciding to target police.
It’s “anti-Muslim” now to stand for the freedom of speech, you see.
Authorities say Rahim, David Wright of Everett, and a third person met on a beach in Rhode Island to discuss their plans. Wright was arrested the same day Rahim was shot and killed….
epistemology says
Another bloody convert to Islam, they’re the worst muzzies. Being born and raised in a rational society how can they turn to this utterly irrational, gruesome and perverse cult? They must be insane. Anyway terrorism is preprogrammed and inevitable. Rovinski would never have lived a peaceful life, no way.
mortimer says
Converts are enthusiasts who have accepted a number of false premises which lead to all the wrong conclusions. They are not ‘insane’, but they do not live in reality. They live in their separate reality using logic and reason to support false premises. This is also called ‘selective perception’.
Nazi party members frequently had PhD’s…most of the Wannsee Conference attendees had doctorates in LAW and knew what they plotted was illegal and immoral.
VRWC member77 says
“the Wannsee Conference”
I’m guessing you saw the 1984 movie release: The Final solution: Die Wannseekonferenz
It was pretty chilling watching the movie dialogue and how they discussed techniques for whole-sale execution in matter of fact tones. If there is a positive thing to take away from that event it would be the fact that they all had gross narcissistic behavior patterns and almost all of them were subject to mortal demise soon after that conference. If only the same thing could occur with the political left.
btw thanks for the history info on “palestine.”
RONford says
What Pamela Geller has done to promote ISIS recruitment was stupid and unforgivable.
gravenimage says
The witless RONford wrote:
What Pamela Geller has done to promote ISIS recruitment was stupid and unforgivable.
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Yes—how *dare she* assert our right to freedom of speech?
Everything would be hunky-dory with Jihadists is *only* we would stop “inciting” them! Bad dhimmis!
Linde Barrera says
To RONford- Does your fear make you stupid, or does your stupidity make you fearful? ISIS will only get away with doing as much crap to innocent civilians anywhere as the coalition against them permits. And let me not forget that about 9 or 10 years ago. Senator John McCain was in a photo with a bunch of guys and none other than Abu Bakr al- Baghdadi, and al-Baghdadi was wearing western clothing and had a pardon my vernacular, “shit-eating” grin on his slovenly face.
TheBuffster says
RonFord said: “What Pamela Geller has done to promote ISIS recruitment was stupid and unforgivable.”
Buffster replies: You mean the cartoon contest? You think that has promoted ISIS recruitment?
Bull poop! Any Muslim who can be pushed over the edge into jihad by Mohammad cartoons is a Muslim who is going to wind up there anyway. ANY kind of criticism of Islam or Mohammad is taboo in Islam, and calls for death to the blasphemer. A Muslim who is so full-on in his religion that a Mohammad cartoon contest can send him to ISIS is going to be heading to ISIS anyway because we won’t outlaw any kind of criticism of Allah’s religion and prophet – because we won’t outlaw BLASPHEMY.
The Muslims who tried to attack the cartoon contest gathering and the one who got himself sent to Paradise by trying to stab a policeman were already down with ISIS, because they take the Koran and Mohammad’s example seriously to the level of 100%. The guy who tried to stab the policeman had told his colleague that he’d decided to go for the cop because it would be the easiest and surest way to die in jihad and thus to get out of this miserable life and be with Allah in Paradise. He didn’t care who his target was, as long as it was somebody he thought would get him killed and sent immediately to Paradise.
He didn’t get that idea from Pam Geller. He got it from the Islamic primary texts, and his own unthinking desire to believe such freakin’ stupid Koranic propaganda.
Pamela Geller is taking a defiant stand against the people who want to shut up all kaffirs and make us treat a 7th century fanatic megalomaniac and his totalitarian religion as if they’re too sacred to criticize. Submitting to that would be like submitting to demands of the Communist and Nazi Parties if they told the world: “Criticize our philosophy and our leaders, and we will bury you!”
You don’t stop a fanatical totalitarian movement by shutting up when they threaten you with violence.
Patty says
Did she now? Really? She caused something that she had absolutly nothing to do with? How is that even possible? Did she supply the guns, bullets, pressure cooker, machetti, knives, bombs, airplanes, or funding for any ISIS terrorist? The accountability falls directly on those who provided the above mentioned. All Gellar did was have a contest. It offended people, so what? Political Correctness does not trump our constitution. Our rights do not end where someone elses feelings begin. Do you see any Christians shooting or killing people because they write stories, draw images of someone urinating on Christ about how God is fake? How Jesus was just “a man”? Nope. NOT ONE. Why is that? As a Christian I can awnser that. We do not let what others say, write or draw allow it to get in the way of our faith. Our faith tells us that we are to be kind, loving, charitable, helpful, honest. Not to kill, steal, cheat, or harm others. What we do to others will hapen to us. How many christians do you see ( besides the Westboro Phelps family) out protesting our rights? attacking those non believers? Killing Gays? Or killing anyone for being an athiest? NONE. But there are plenty who would harm us if given a chance. We forgive.
Linde Barrera says
To Patty- Well said, Christian sister. I am convinced that certain people who post here have a “follow the leader” and “monkey see, monkey do” mentality. So thank you for calling out RONford.
Shane says
In this case, even liberals can’t say that these guys were not motivated by devotion to Islam. They were trying to enforce Islamic blasphemy laws by killing those who drew and looked at Muhammad drawings.
Patty says
This is nuts! I know there are millions of amazing people who are muslims, just like all religions. A few bad apples spoil the bushel.
qedlin says
Your own name provides the answer. I must reject the premise that we live in a rational society: the epistemologies of increasing numbers are anything but rational. The farther we get from God’s Moral Law the more aberrant human behavior becomes. Insanity and terrorism are included, but it is not deterministic, it is free will.
sinantara says
they say who doesn’t believe in anything will believe everything. Don’t teach your children about Christ because that is irrational and they become cultists or worse. What the rational parents didn’t know is how Christian they actually were–people tend to think religions is a “belief”. Like it or not, religion has been the core of civilization since Stonehenge. But western linear thinking can not cope with the possibility that irrationality is part of the rational–God may be a very rational concept but belief in God has to go through stages of spirituality. Nowadays simply seen as self improvement. So it becomes, because God can not be proven with existing science, there is no God so the whole cultural heritage that grew out of religious consciousness should be forsaken, and after bringing up their children without any spiritual guidance, they’re aghast when they start to believe in Islam. As if the 60 ties were not sufficient warning when it was Indian gurus, and then weirder and weirder cults, and leftist cults believing in dialectical materialism, like the Rote Armee and others. Now left is not that extreme anymore but Islam has replaced them, so they hasten to place themselves with Islam. A knee jerk reflex inherited from the leftist ideological squabbles. So let’s hope that the pope stops with thinking about Islam and starts with thinking about Christianity without cultural marxism.
Patty says
@sinitara- Exactly. I know there are peaceful muslims, they are people just like we are. I think that there are radicals in every religion, look at the Westboro nuts. They give Christains a bad name, but so does the pope. If people would just stick to with the teaching of a peaceful religion, or no religion and just chill the heck out, what a better world. Take all that energy used to hate, and turn it into charity, helping others. I think it begins in the home, if dad does not go to church, or is not the spiritual leader of the home, does not teach his children by example, then there is very little hope. Men are supposed to lead in that way.
Now, as for what Gellar did, I agree with her. Cannot blame 911 on Gellar, or the Murder of four innocent men by Ali Muhammad brown, Boston, or any other Muslim terrorist attack ever, and there have been 1000’s worldwide, by Muslims.
Still, I do not blame the religion, I blame the radicals. Obama is not making it any easier to stop them from migrating into our nation through his open border policy ( thats what he meant in his campaning when he said he would have ” An open door policy” Obama promised Transparency , he sure allows the enemy to see and hear all of the militarys strategy before it happens. “helping his buddies”, if you will. And allowing Libyians to enter this country again? Bringing in 1000’s of “unvetted” syrian refugees, right next door to oregon, where I live. Packing DHS with Muslims, his WH advisor is Iranian. This cuban deal is for huge corporations , like Google. They are already planning on doing business in Cuba. We still trade with pakistan, they have americans in prisons there. No word on the Marine held in iran, but big Business willing to invest there. When will this madness end? When our Lord returns,
particolor says
I cant get over how Peaceful they are ! No wonder the Government is down on Dhimmi’s for Offending them !
Larry A. Singleton says
Posted at CBS News link-Took them just five minutes to purge this off their comment feature.
The lamestream media will never get it: Pamella Geller is an “anti-Muslim blogger. Read “bigot”.
Here’s some useful information for the useful idiots:
Freedom, Provocation and Targets by Ralph Sidway
These People Are Speaking a Strange Language by Michael Devolin
WaPo op-ed “Making Islamic Sense of Free Speech” by Harris Zafar and Robert Spencer’s brilliant response WaPo op-ed makes ‘Islamic sense’ of Free Speech by Denying Free Speech
Summarized Sahih Al-Bukhari Published by Dar-Us-Salam/“general manager” is “moderate” Muslim Abdul Malik Mujahid who hypes following article when posted on web: “Introduction”: Jihad in the Qur’an and Sunnah by Abdullâh bin Muhammad bin Humaid
Reliance of the Traveller and answer the same question. (Chapter O-9.0: Jihad O: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.” And explain why the “greater” jihad is only mentioned once here and never seen again in this “Classic Manual of Islamic Sacred Law”.)
I’ve got a neat little “poster”; one side is a picture of a bunch of screaming, frothing at the mouth Muslims. And on the panel beside that is a picture of a Jew in a lab coat. The caption below says: “In 2007 Islam and Judaism’s holiest holidays overlapped for 10 days. Muslims racked up 397 dead bodies in 94 terror attacks across 10 countries during this time… ….while Jews worked on their 159th Nobel Prize.”
The 4th Conference of the Academy of Islamic Research: Arab Theologians on Jews and Israel. Sept. 1968 Translated by D.F. Green/David G. Littman (Support Secure Freedom)Front to back; 95 pages of outrageous lies, inversion and vile Jew-Hatred. I’ve read this whole thing. I invite you to find any comparison with Jewish, Christain or Buddhist “Conferences”. See the Declaration of War titled “Resolutions and Recommendations” on page 73.
http://supportsecurefreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/Arab-Theologians-on-Jews-and-Israel-4th_Ed_082011.pdf
And this:
Dr. Wafa Sultan exposes Islamic values with Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad
http://www.mrctv.org/videos/dr-wafa-sultan-exposes-islamic-values-sheikh-omar-bakri-muhammad
This less than 8-minute video segment, if viewed objectively and dispassionately, could do more to educate the American public on the theory animating the practice of “Islamic international relations,” without any further explanation required. Andrew G. Bostom-The Legacy of Jihad and The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism.
“What the horn is to the rhinoceros, what the sting is to the wasp, the Mohammedan faith is to the Arabs of the Sudan-a faculty of offence. All the warlike operations of Mohammedan peoples are characterised by fanatacism” Winston Churchill
“An appeaser is one who feeds the crocodile hoping it will eat him last. Victory will never be found by taking the line of least resistance.” Winston Churchill
“While Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, Parsees and Jews, along with several million adherents of an animistic religion, all coexisted in relative harmony, one religion that would not accept compromise stood out from the rest: Islam.” Mahatma Gandhi
Islam is a disease and Muslims are the symptom. As we can see by the Bubonic Plague that is Islamic jihad spreading across the globe in the name of the “religion of peace”.
What’s Nicholas Rovinski’s Muslim name? Funny how the lamestream media conveniently leaves that out.
mortimer says
Agree and disagree with LAS:
Firstly, you have many reasonable quotes about Islam. However, the ‘disease’ analogy you use is a danger to the counterjihad movement. Please restrain the use of it. MUSLIMS ARE PEOPLE who have an ‘OVERVALUATED IDEATION’ called Islam. Islam has no rational or historical basis and relies on repetition of slogans and death threats to bring about mental submission. It’s more like Stockholm syndrome (capture bonding)…not exactly an ‘illness’ but certainly a ‘mental disorder’ to some degree. Muslim HUMANS can and have been thoroughly cured of this disorder by comparing Islam with reality and realizing that Islam is false. Convincing Muslims that Islam is false should be our straightforward goal as well as convincing Western people that jihad cannot co-exist with a free, democratic society.
I repeat: Muslims are not a ‘disease’, but victims of a delusional IDEATION. They can be deprogrammed successfully and become humanists.
duh_swami says
I repeat: Muslims are not a ‘disease’, but victims of a delusional IDEATION.
Victims??? It would be bad if all that was forced on them, which sometimes happened, but the pious are not forced into anything. The pious are not victims, they are perpetrators…There is only the pious and Islam, not a victim among them……
mortimer says
Muslim logic: if you can’t behead a FREE SPEECH defender, then murder a police officer! Is that PSYCHOPATHY or what?
Jihadists are ordinary Muslims who increased their faith.
mortimer says
One Muslim in 7,000 is a dangerous jihadist.
Angemon says
mortimer posted:
“Jihadists are ordinary Muslims who increased their faith.”
Ordinary muslims with knowledge of what islam teaches regarding fighting non-believers and the will to act upon that knowledge.
TheBuffster says
Robert Spencer said: “This makes three jihadis dead and two in custody for trying to murder Pamela Geller.”
I know it’s a small thing, but I’m a geek and inaccuracy bugs me: the 3rd dead jihadist isn’t dead because he tried to murder Pamela Geller, but because he was out to kill cops. He had originally planned to go after Geller, but that’s not what he did and not why he was killed.
Which pretty much shows that these guys just wanted to kill themselves some kaffirs and get themselves to Paradise.
duh_swami says
He had originally planned to go after Geller, but that’s not what he did and not why he was killed.
Intent is important…According to the perpetrator, he was going for the boys in blue, because they were more numerous and easy to get to. It would be a lot harder and take a lot of time, to go after Pam, but that does not diminish his desire to do so.
John Stefan Obeda says
To God and to me too intent is already sin and it makes the person guilty and worthy of God’s punishment. We all do thank God that the murderer’s intent failed. May they all fail. But he himself was effectively dealt with. We must continue to pray for Pam and Robert and so many others who fight for truth and for the many people that satan via Islam is persecuting. “God, please help us all.”
TheBuffster says
Duh_swami, I think Pam was in the news, so he thought of her first, but she was only a way out of his miserable life and into Paradise to be with Allah. Anyone would do. He didn’t care who. *He wanted to die* in a way that would give him immediate Paradise. Just a means to an end. Any kafir with a gun or protected by a security guard would do.
Just think of the total DUMBNESS of a person who actually believes the tale that killing and being killed for Allah will take you to eternal bliss. It’s mind-blowing that anyone can delude himself so profoundly that he’s willing to kill and be killed on such a ridiculous and unprovable premise.