Those who glibly claim that “extremism of all kinds” is the problem, and that Christianity is just as likely to incite its adherents to violence as Islam, should take note: everyone knows better, even if no one will admit it. Everyone knows that Christians won’t kill you for criticizing their religion, and Muslims will.
This cowardly author “Horus Gilgamesh,” meanwhile, has once again sent the signal that terrorism works. Cowardice rules the day, although the cowardly generally justify themselves by claiming that they’re showing “respect.” In reality, they’re kowtowing to violent intimidation, which only ensures that we will get more violent intimidation.
“Atheist Author Behind Illustrated ‘Awkward’ Children’s Bible Poking Fun at Scripture Cancels Follow-Up Quran Project Amid Fears for Safety,” by Stoyan Zaimov, Christian Post, June 2, 2015:
The author of the Awkward Moments Children’s Bible, which illustrates controversial or strange passages in the Bible, has announced that he’s canceling a follow-up project that would have illustrated parts of the Quran because of fears for his safety and the safety of the illustrators.
“After a great deal of consideration and wise counsel, I’ve decided to cancel the controversial Kid’s Koran project we’ve been working on and hinting about over the past year that was set to release this fall. Why? Because of a certain group of fringe maniacal ‘radical’ bullies who equate the transfer of lead and pigments into shapes on paper as blasphemy — punishable by death,” the author, going by the pseudonym Horus Gilgamesh, explains on his website.
Brian says
So where do we sign up in surrender to become dhimmi’s?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Vote in the upcoming presidential election. That’ll do it.
Lynn says
Isn’t that the truth.
Westman says
Somebody didn’t sign up.
An oblique criticism of the Qur’an and Hadith has been done in comic book form:
http://islamcomicbook.com
There certainly would have been a market for a children’s book of Quranic oddities.
MrIpe says
THIS IS REMARKABLE:
Quran actually instructs people to abandon his/her muslim faith and become a christian:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjUXd4qW9mg
Only three things needed: read the book, be honest and use your brains!
qedlin says
I can send you a bank account no. for you to remit your jiziya, then you will be good to go, unless i decide to rape your women, kill you, and sell the rest of your family into slavery if impulse hits me. Oh, be sure to include your address. You do own a home, right? I will want to inspect it for halal suitability.
David Wood says
Textual critic Bart Ehrman had a similar reason for not criticizing the Qur’an: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59txpioPYJI
RonaldB says
Thank you David,
No one ever associated a lack of courage, or forthrightness, or knowledge or humor with you.
I appreciate your work among the anti-jihad people.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
I know I’ve said it in here before, but Wood is the very definition of irony. His videos are not only informative, they’re a gas to watch.
Jay Boo says
Bart Ehrman : Another jackal looking for an easy meal.
How ironic that these condescending writers who expect us to trust them when they question the sincerity of Christianity don’t have the slightest sincerity of their own convictions when Islam is mentioned.
jihad3tracker says
Hello David —
I am a quite occasional commenter at your absolutely superb blog (www.answeringmuslims.com) but read it several times a week, and have for the several years since I first found it.
You are in the smallish group of true experts on Islam — and along with Pam & Robert, willingly risk your life to help hundreds of millions of clueless fellow humans learn of Islam’s supremacist pathology.
Your waggish sense of humor helps the dark sickness of Allah’s directives and Muhammad’s violent life seat themselves more firmly in the minds of Westerners who are revulsed by what we discover.
It is a nice coincidence that you have posted a comment today, because, as I do from time to time, I jumped on to this thread to recommend that readers who have NOT discovered your blog, visit it to see the latest items.
Currently posted are a couple of contextual gems: vids created by you at an earlier date : The three stages of jihad — and — The jihad triangle. HIGHLY RECOMMENDED VIEWING FOR EVERYONE HERE AT JW.
gravenimage says
Thank you for all your brilliant stuff, David. Great to see you commenting here.
And you are quite right—”Horus Gilgamesh” is hardly the only hypocritical dhimmi of his sort.
Mirren10 says
*Love* your website, and your videos. Great and very funny stuff.
Re that clip of Bart Ehrman, it is absolutely sickening the way they all *laughed knowingly*.
It just proves these fools are actually well aware of how violent islam is. And yet they persist in their half lies, obfuscations, moral equivalencies, and downright lies. How despicable they are.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi David Wood,
You have the courage to dish it out, but you lack the courage to take it.
Joseph says
@ Stardusty Psyche
I HAVE A FUNNY FEELING I KNOW WHERE YOU LIKE TO TAKE IT.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Joseph,
It is good to know I can always count on you for a witty and incisive rejoinder 🙂
Oh, and your might want to consider repairing your keyboard…
Mirren10 says
”Hi David Wood,
You have the courage to dish it out, but you lack the courage to take it”
As usual, this repellent little troll makes stupid assertions without providing one iota of evidence, although he demands everyone else does so.
David Wood has debated muslims and won hands down. ‘stardusty psyche’ cannot even produce a coherent and factually based argument on this forum, much less answer arguments put to him. Pffft.
Angemon says
Indeed, Mirren. Last time I checked, it was muslim apologists who refused David’s challenges (and by “David” I mean everyone at answeringmuslims.com: Anthony Rogers, Sam Shamoun, Nabeel Qureshi, etc. – even David Wood 🙂 )
And, of course, one can search “David Wood Debate” on youtube to see he has taken on many people on several topics – muslims, atheists, sometimes even other Christians.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi guys,
I was not referring to anybody else, I was referring to myself.
David Wood is a firm believer in freedom of speech, until he hears from somebody capable of presenting arguments for which he has never posted significant responses, either directly to me or more importantly, in any other context.
Then David Wood becomes a firm believer in censorship.
David Wood is “Searching for the Atheist Refutation of Jeffrey Dahmer ”
http://www.acts17.net/2015/01/searching-for-atheist-refutation-of.html#comment-form
Yet, he chooses to not respond to the only atheist who answered that search. Fine, he does not owe me an answer, that alone is not proof he has no answer, only evidence he has no answer.
I have spent hours reading and listening to David Wood. His arguments against Islam are superb. His arguments for theism and especially for Christianity as opposed to atheism are fallacious and amount to only the same erroneous arguments put forth falsely time and again by Christian apologists.
Ok, fine, he still owes me nothing.
Yet, I do find it ironic that a man so dedicated to free speech would choose censorship in such an apparently thin skinned manner.
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2015/05/how-could-god-punish-jesus-for-sins-of.html
gravenimage says
The witless “Stardusty Psyche” wrote:
Hi David Wood,
You have the courage to dish it out, but you lack the courage to take it.
…………………………………
What utter rot. As noted, David Wood has debated Muslim apologists many times.
And note that “Stardusty Psyche” does not actually say what his disagreements are with David Wood, meaning that *he* lacks the courage to actually argue a position.
Mirren10 says
”Everyone knows that Christians won’t kill you for criticizing their religion, and Muslims will.”
Actually, Mr Spencer, he also cancelled his appearance at an atheist’s convention, last year, because he had received a threatening letter from someone purporting to be a Christian, suggesting Gilgamesh would be attacked by this individual at the convention, and who signed themselves as ‘God’s little helper’.
Of course, there is no excuse for this sort of threatening behaviour, and it goes against all the tenets of Christianity. I am certainly not trying to excuse it.
On the other hand, threats from muslims are koranically based and mandated, and as we know, pious muslims carry out, or attempt to carry out these threats, as in Garland.
‘Horus Gilgamesh’ has none of the courage and commitment to free speech that you and Miss Geller have, and cravenly attempts to hide his cowardice behind the specious argument he ‘doesn’t want to endanger security personnel’.
You could send him an email, below, and ask him why he’s so reluctant to stand for free speech !
info@awkwardmomentsbible.com.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Everyone knows that Christians won’t kill you for criticizing their religion, and Muslims will.
Islam is a growth oriented religion. There’s been some frustration among the troops since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, but now look, Prez Barack Hussein has thrown in with the Mo-Bro-Hood, which was expressly set up to restore the Caliphate. And there’s a new caliphate on the rise, too. With cash pouring in from oil sales.
Barack is backed by RINOs Bill O’Reilly and Laura Ingraham, who feel that free speech is an absolute right but must not tolerate yelling Fire! in a theater crowded with Moslems.
Because of a certain group of fringe maniacal ‘radical’ bullies who equate the transfer of lead and pigments into shapes on paper as blasphemy — punishable by death.
Maniacal, yes. On the fringe like a soldier walking at the point of a company of riflemen on patrol to save the land. It’s an insult to call these people radicals, for they are activists. And it ain’t no Kabuki act, either. These people are serious.
AnneM says
Yesterday, though, a sucessful election in Turkey set any efforts to build a calphate back bigtime.
gravenimage says
Yeah—Erdogan lost his parliamentary majority, which is a good sign. But in general Turkey has been fast Islamizing, and I imagine this is more of a minor set-back than a true re-embrace of Kemalism. I’d certainly like to be proven wrong, though.
umbra says
That turkish election saga is not over yet. If it turns out to be a hung parliament, it is back to the ballot box again. If an unstable minority government eventuates, another election may not be too far away.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the update, Umbra.
Don McKellar says
Frankly, I think this opens up a spot for Robert Spencer to author Awkward Moment’s in the Kid’s Koran. Make it look just like the book above. What are they gonna do? Sue you? Better yet, contact the publisher and make the proposal!
Angemon says
And what better way to stand up to bullies than doing what they want, right?
KrazyKafir says
So by attacking all other religions, except the Death Cult, then the cowardly author becomes a servant in Islam’s army.
mortimer says
“Horus Gilgamesh” should write a book now on the logic of giving in to terrorists.
tilda says
“Horus Gilgamesh” (I assume that is a pseudonym) was willing to produce a book for children about awkward moments in the bible (Christianity) , but then refused to take the jump when it came to Islam despite the fact that “Horus Gilgamesh” is a pseudonym. That is either an EPIC FAIL or “Horus Gilgamesh” is a plant.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi tilda,
The stories of Horus and the Epic of Gilgamesh pre-date Jesus and Moses respectively. Each contains most of the major elements of the stories of Jesus and Genesis, giving evidence to the lack of originality of the bible characters.
The bible is thus asserted to merely be a rehash of prior mythologies.
When I first heard the “name” Horus Gilgamesh I got a good chuckle out of it, not knowing anything else, it was apparently the moniker of a bible critic.
wildjew says
I guess Horus Gilgamesh is not possessed of much courage or integrity.
If he had integrity he would publish Volume 2 or at least withdraw “Awkward Moments Children’s Bible, Vol. 1” from publication in order to be consistent.
miriamrove says
You are right. M
Jack Diamond says
Nothing more courageous than trying to destroy the faith of little children. But only if they
are Christian children. The brave crusading Whoris G. (forward by atheist David G. McAfee,
author of “Disproving Christianity” and “Mom, Dad, I’m an atheist”) turns chicken when it comes
to Islam. Muslim children will remain safe. I suggest a more appropriate nom de guerre for
Gilgamesh, say the Norse god Loki, “portrayed as a scheming coward who cares only for shallow pleasures and self-preservation.” Or say, a famous coward from recent history, like Francesco Schettino, the captain of the Italian cruise ship who bravely abandoned his sinking ship and all its passengers.
Judas Iscariot works too.
Stardusty Psyche says
“Nothing more courageous than trying to destroy the faith of little children”
Indeed!!!
Saving a child from the cognitive destruction of indoctrination into the pathology or religiosity at the risk of social ostracization is risky altruism at its finest!!!
Champ says
“The author of the Awkward Moments Children’s Bible, which illustrates controversial or strange passages in the Bible” …
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hmm, notice that he’s still alive to work on other projects after “Awkward”, and I’m certain that he didn’t receive a single threat …
And you would think that this would shut the mouths of the moral equivalency crowd. But nooo.
Champ says
“Because of a certain group of fringe maniacal ‘radical’ bullies” …
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
You mean *muslims*, right? Wow what namby-pamby choice of words.
Mirren10 says
”You mean *muslims*, right? Wow what namby-pamby choice of words.”
Indeed. He was all over the threat from the purported **Christian**, but the *muslims* who are threatening him (a far more credible threat, given how we know they operate), and it’s ”a certain group of fringe maniacal ‘radical’ bullies”.
Weaselly, cowardly little tosser.
Champ says
Yes — good point, Mirren10! 🙂
gravenimage says
So you mean we won’t have an “Awkward Moments in the Qur’an” to look forward to? I’m shocked, shocked…wait, no I’m not…
But his schtick wouldn’t really work there, in any case—with his send-up of the Children’s Bible he is lampooning the idea that the Holy Book is all sweetness and light.
Of course, Islam has never made any such claims, nor have they as a rule tried to tailor Islam for innocent children as do Jews and Christians with their faith—they are generally quite straightforward in passing on the most overt savagery to their little ones. Hence, you find lisping toddlers talking about genocide of the Jews, and little boys dressed as miniature suicide bombers.
Also note: while violent passages in the Torah or Bible may conceivably make for a few “awkward moments” in Jews and Christians teaching their children, the truth is that there are no such awkward moments in pious Muslims teaching their offspring—because generally Mohammedans have little trouble teaching the most horrifying violence, and moreover using such violence as a model.
In any case, though, with “Horus Gilgamesh” we have yet another “transgressive” individual ready to “bravely” take on Judaism and Christianity, while giving the truly violent creed of Islam a pass. How common is this craven dhimmitude at this point?
Mirren10 says
”Of course, Islam has never made any such claims, nor have they as a rule tried to tailor Islam for innocent children as do Jews and Christians with their faith—they are generally quite straightforward in passing on the most overt savagery to their little ones. Hence, you find lisping toddlers talking about genocide of the Jews, and little boys dressed as miniature suicide bombers.”
Excellent point, graven.
You can find these sickening types of videos on youtube and other places.
Plus those vile photos of little babies next to grenades/kalashnikovs, and a copy of the koran.
Funnily enough, I’ve never found one of a little Christian boy or girl doing the same. Or any other religion, if it comes to that. *Only* islam.
gravenimage says
Very true, Mirren.
profitsbeard says
How dare you call Islam an irrationalistic Death Cult!
Of course, the deity known as “Allah” is not able to be “chained” by any standard of reason, behavior, morality or conscience- and is ergo “Irrational”- and, of course, if you try to leave Islam you will be targeted for death (making Islam a de facto Death Cult) , but that doesn’t mean people are allowed to point these facts out for the public to notice.
epistemology says
It’s absolutely safe to criticise the Bible and Judaism and Christianity, but criticising Islam is very dangerous. So this craven author abstained from doing so. Just another guy who doesn’t understand how important it is to speak out about Islam. Just cave in and be silent. This is no defender of free speech.
voegelinian says
Why? Because of a certain group of fringe maniacal ‘radical’ bullies who equate the transfer of lead and pigments into shapes on paper as blasphemy — punishable by death,”
This statement by the author, Horus Gilgamesh, is the problem; not so much his disinclination to bravely risk his life. I wouldn’t fault anyone (especially civilians who may not have enough money for security and whom the proper authorities are not protecting adequately) for prudently withdrawing in order to protect themselves. The reason I wouldn’t fault them is that the real responsibility for their safety — the real obligation and duty of it — is in the hands of our proper authorities: in law enforcement, the police, intelligence, army, elected representatives and executives of our government; and in media the “fourth estate”, the news reporters, news editors, news publishers. It’s their responsibility, obligation and duty; and hence it is their blame when a civilian feels he or she has to hide from Muslims, rather than live his or her life freely. I noticed, for example, that no one in the Jihad Watch arena condemned Molly Norris of Seattle, Washington, for “cowardice” (as Spencer condemns Horus Gilgamesh) when she chose to run away and hide rather than go ahead with her Mohammed cartoon “contest”.
Again, the main and only problem with Horus is that he’s framing this problem (the danger that leads him to repress his own artistic freedom) as one of a TMOE (Tiny Minority of Extremists) that have nothing to do with Islam. There are many ways to communicate the truth of the matter he could have chosen. For example, he could have answered as forthrightly as the smugly atheist/Leftist comedian-cum-magician Penn Jillette (of Penn and Teller fame) did in an interview in Las Vegas Weekly back in 2010:
After detailing how he and his magic partner Teller lambaste Christians and Christianity every night in their Vegas act, he mentions how they don’t do the same with Muslims and Islam:
Penn: …we haven’t tacked [sic: tackled] Islam because we have families.
Interviewer: Meaning, you won’t attack Islam because you’re afraid it’ll attack back …
Penn: Right, and I think the worst thing you can say about a group in a free society is that you’re afraid to talk about it—I can’t think of anything more horrific.
Interviewer: Of course, it might please some Islamic fundamentalists to hear you say that you won’t talk about them because you’re afraid …
Penn: It might, but you have to say what you believe, even it if pleases somebody you disagree with—that issue comes up all the time in moral discourse.
Interviewer: You do go after Christians, though …
Penn: Teller and I have been brutal to Christians, and their response shows that they’re good fucking Americans who believe in freedom of speech. We attack them all the time, and we still get letters that say, “We appreciate your passion. Sincerely yours, in Christ.” Christians come to our show at the Rio and give us Bibles all the time. They’re incredibly kind to us. Sure, there are a couple of them who live in garages, give themselves titles and send out death threats to me and Bill Maher and Trey Parker. But the vast majority are polite, open-minded people, and I respect them for that.
http://lasvegasweekly.com/ae/2010/jun/24/celebrity-issue/
[end quote]
The fact Horus Gilgamesh didn’t do something remotely similar, but instead used PC MC TMOE rhetoric indicates he actually believes the TMOE meme — and that would be utterly unsurprising, since so many millions throughout the West (and even some in the Counter-Jihad, though they’ve adjusted the “Tiny” to be large enough to accommodate their phony bluster) also do.
By blaming people like Horus Gilgamesh (or Molly Norris) for “cowardice”, we distract the harsh spotlight from where it should be exclusively trained — on our proper authorities for failing to identify and investigate the enemy that threatens all of us and for failing to protect us from that enemy, and on our news media for failing to inform us about this threat. We also more subtly muddy the war-of-ideas discourse where it’s already difficult enough to make clear the positive ideology (of PC MC) that massively and still mostly successfully purveys a myopia to the actual nature of the danger throughout the West.
qedlin says
huh… can you repeat that…? Try being more verbose.
Any fool who.thinks “the authorities” will protect us and the media will cover this fairly must be a liberal useful idiot, pardon the redundancy.
The Christian soft targethas been the object of attack by the jidahis, atheists, the media and the statists for decades now. Atheists are not willing to die for a lie.
Arthur says
Hmmm… kind of like the school bully who is willing to beat up little girls, but pees his pants and runs when he meets a kid ready to knock out his teeth. Perhaps the reason Penn doesn’t attack Islam is that he identifies with its morality on a personal level?
voegelinian says
We should expect the authorities to protect us; it’s their job. We should demand it. We should continue to demand it, and not let up. Our continuing righteous, informed demand is, on one level, the whole point of this war of ideas we (the Counter-Jihad movement) are pursuing.
Walter Sieruk says
This again is still more proof that Islam is such a weak and fragile religion that it can’t stand up to or hold up to any type of criticism whatsoever.. For the imams and other Muslims much have no actual logical arguments based on reason. Therefore they have to resort to intimation to silence critics.
Georg says
“Bible critic cancels book criticizing Qur’an for fear of jihad attack” inadvertently offering the most telling critique of all concerning the difference between Christianity and Islam.
Dexter Wilson says
For those who wish to witness to Muslims, you can actually use the Qur’an to do so. Go on line and get a copy of the Camelmethod. It is extremely effective on those who are not sure about their Muslim Faith. It uses the Qur’an to bring them to a saving knowledge of Isa (Jesus). Did you know that they even believe in the virgin birth of Jesus?
gravenimage says
Actually, the “Jesus” (“Isa”) of Islam has little in common with the Jesus of the Gospels. He is not a savior, a healer, or a peacemaker, and his primary role in the last days is to serve as a “witness against the Christians”, and to slaughter any of them who refuse to convert to Islam.
Any similarities are quite superficial.
Kepha says
Voegelinian posted the following, along with the observation that Horus Gilgamesh appalerntly buys into the EmCeePeeCee meme:
“Penn: Teller and I have been brutal to Christians, and their response shows that they’re good fucking Americans who believe in freedom of speech. We attack them all the time, and we still get letters that say, “We appreciate your passion. Sincerely yours, in Christ.” Christians come to our show at the Rio and give us Bibles all the time. They’re incredibly kind to us. Sure, there are a couple of them who live in garages, give themselves titles and send out death threats to me and Bill Maher and Trey Parker. But the vast majority are polite, open-minded people, and I respect them for that.
http://lasvegasweekly.com/ae/2010/jun/24/celebrity-issue/”
Take note Stardusky and a few others, you’re going to have some fun at Uncle Kepha’s expense. To my fellow Christians here, a brother’s about to confess one of his really serious sins.
*****************************
Dear Penn Jillete (and comics like you):
I’m about to give you some cheap grist for your mill–religious hypocrisy.
My religion teaches me to pray, “forgive us our debts ,as we forgive our debtors.” But I’m having a very hard time forgiving you and your fellow cultural vultures and would-be undertakers of the West for being a bunch of offensive, unfunny, useless creeps who help me understand why some of my family’s Tang dynasty ancestors put entertainers at the bottom of the social ladder.
While I admit I have too much respect for a system of laws in which I might still have a chance to get justice to come to your show and shoot you, or even key your car, I’m sick of you and your ilk, and probably wouldn’t shed a tear if God pulled a new Sodom and Gomorrah act in Vegas right in the middle of your Shpiel (thre> I reveal more of the tribes to which I’m connected).
You’re cheap and cowardly. You’ve said it all that you won’t make fun of Islam because you’re scared. Indeed, if the horde came out of the desert (or out of the balieux of Paris) and gave you the choice of Islam or death (while forcing me to pay jizya and acquiesce in my granddaughter’s abduction as spoils of war and her receiving treatment I would see as rape–I understand from some Armenian and Assyrian folks that that’s the fate of a pretty Kufr girl when there’s a jihad), you’d recite the Shehada in front of two grinning beardies in a trice, and stick your butt in the air as if you’re ready to be sodomized.
You’re more dangerous to America than Muslims. You rot our country from within. The Muslims at least have a zeal for God, even if not according to knowledge; and when they apostasize to follow Christ, as some Iranian-origin pastors have shown, they carry over a certain understanding that God’s bigger than their own safety, and let our Christian understanding of being faithful unto death make them feel they they ought to let the chips fall where they may.
Worst of all, there are too many of my fellow Americans willing to pay you to take your cheap shots at things I hold dear.
I’m also sick of the purveyors of over-priced “history” textbooks from which I have to swindle the young–oops, teach–and writers of curricula who say that admirers of tyrants like Voltaire were shapers of liberty and rule of law; but who dare not say that the framers of the Mayflower Compact were highly devout Christians and heirs of a tradition in both Protestantism and Roman Catholicism that said resistance to tyrants is obedience to God (it’s called the Monarchomach tradition, but I doubt your miseducation ever took you there), lest more of your “tough-minded” ilk go whining to the courts feeling oh-so hurt to know that people like me are paid out of public monies and think that prayer and the Scriptures are dangerous things for their kids to be exposed to (but oddly silent about their being taught the wonders of getting cut up to become a “girl” when every cell yells “XY!” and how a creep like Harvey Milk, who preyed on teen runaways, was a “hero”).
Doubtless, you see people like the Kleins and Baronelle Stutzman (spelling may be wrong) as evil “haters” who deserve to be ruined for refusing to celebrate homosexuality. But I d-double-dog dare ya to go ask a halal caterer to barbecue a whole hog for you, and then take him to court when he refuses, because you’re “hurt”. You could do it, when I couldn’t. I simply have too much respect for people’s dietary beliefs, even when I think them mistaken.
Sure, I’m a “good f–ing” American (and I guess my =family proves the f-ing part about my good wife and me, although I’d prefer a more delicate term). But I don’t think that you are good, even if you are “f-ing”. And I sure as shooting don’t feel flattered that some celeb thre me a verbal bone.
I confess that I don’t love you at all. I honestly hate you and your ilk, and gnash my teeth when I realize you’re another bearer of the divine image (sorry, it’s a capacity for knowledge, righteousness, and holiness in my tradition; not an old bearded guy on a cloud). The only good thing I can say about you is that apparently, your fans, patrons, and sponsors pay you on a private basis, rather than taxing me so you can spew your garbage.
There, Penn. In your next shtick, tell the world that Uncle Kepha is a religious hypocrite. He’s even confessed his sin to you and your fans. I know that making fun of people like me is lots of good, cheap fun for people like you. Enjoy!
Repent and believe in Christ before Hell claims you. The Gideon Bible in your hotel room can tell you how better than I can (if you haven’t used it for your state-worshiping Istinja’a).
In disgust,
Uncle Kepha
somehistory says
I have never heard this *comedy* team…I never listen to any that use profanity in a failed effort to be funny. I have only heard of him through reading what others have said about him.
He says he *respects* Christians because he can say outrageous things about us and he gets gifts and kindness in return. That is not respect when he continues to say awful things and use profanity to say how much he respects Christians because they aren’t going to do him injury.
I too find it difficult…impossible at times…to forgive people who are deliberate in their meanness. Because I am imperfect, the *at times* is really a lot. I have learned that I do not have to forgive one who is not sorry for what they have done and show their lack of repentance by continuing to do the same things time and again. Jesus told the pharisees just how awful they were, let them know the devil was their father and they were snakes. We have Him as our Exemplar.
So, Kepha, I’m with you on what you said. I respect what Jesus said, what God commands and the laws of the land that are in harmony with His Laws, so they have nothing to fear from me. Those like Jillette are not worried about what Christians will do to them, but we have a God Who may decide they need some reality checks sooner than they may think possible.
And by what they do, they do in fact make it easier for muslims to get their evil way.
Kepha says
Thanks, Somehistory. And you’re absolutely right that people like Jillette are lying through their teeth when they say they like and respect us. They’re just throwing us a verbal bone, and at the same time hoping it either clunks us on the head or gets stuck in our throats.
I suppose people like these “entertainers” are there to remind me that were it not for the imputed righteousness of Jesus the Messiah, I would have no hope before God at all.
The Messiah’s peace to you.
somehistory says
When ‘we are weak, then we are powerful (2 Corinthians.12:9-11).’
Numbers 6:24-26
Mirren10 says
As you know, Kepha, I am an agnostic, but I thought your post was **excellent**.
How I **despise** these cowardly lickspittles.
voegelinian says
Yes. I only used Penn’s interview to highlight the problem of Horus Gilgamesh; which doesn’t let Penn off the hook for embodying and energetically pursuing and promoting the reckless absurdity of his life and career — making money off of excoriating the very same people and culture (Christians and Christianity) he himself admits manifest ample reasons to lead a reasonable person to respect them, not excoriate them.
gravenimage says
Kepha—with all respect—I’m afraid I have to disagree with you here.
I know you’ve said before that you consider pious Muslims’ savagery to have a saving grace in that they commit these atrocities in their “zeal for God”.
I cannot consider their raping Infidel girls and committing genocide to be less abhorrent for their doing this in the name of their foul deity—if anything, it is a further perversion.
I mostly consider twits like Penn and Teller to be dangerous because intentionally or not they are furthering compliance to Shari’ah norms—although at least Penn has the honesty and comparative decency to note that they are reacting out of fear, rather than pretending—as is so common—that brutal Islam is deserving of “respect”, and that failing to react with cringing dhimmitude constitutes “Islamophobia”.
Penn and Teller—and even “Horus Gilgamesh”—would represent no particular threat to Christianity were it not for savage Islam benefitting from their hypocrisy. They are not preventing Christians from practicing their faith, and Christianity has always proven strong enough to withstand any ridicule.
Islam, in comparison, presents a real threat to Christians, Jews, and all other Infidels.
Champ says
Dear Uncle Kepha, thank you for sharing your thoughts and for being so honest here. And I certainly understand where you’re coming from, and I can’t say that I disagree with you, either.
Much love in Christ, dear brother!
Champ says
Kepha, I understand where you’re coming from; and like you, I don’t *act* on those hateful feelings — unlike mohammedans, who do. BTW, it isn’t a sin to have those thoughts, but it’s a sin to dwell on them and of course *act* on them. Take care!
Joseph says
@ Kepha
My religion teaches me to pray, “forgive us our debts ,as we forgive our debtors.” But I’m having a very hard time forgiving you and your fellow cultural vultures
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My brother in Christ, you would not be human if you did not feel this way nor would you be a follower of Jesus if you were not offended. I don’t have all the answers but this may help you in the little fix your in. Jesus taught to hate the sin not the sinner. Hate all you want what they are saying and doing, but feel sorrow and compassion for the person. They are blinded by evil and they lash out at what is true and right.
I would be telling you a lie if I said I never thought of lashing out as you described.However when I feel this way I remind myself that my precious Lord and savior JESUS CHRIST has forgiven my sins that are much greater than this and that puts things in a different light. Yes you are struggling but with the help of JESUS CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT you will do just fine.
Stay the course, fight a good fight and may the love of JESUS shine on your face.
Your brother in CHRIST
Joseph
Champ says
Great and sound advice, Joseph!
Edgar Allen says
This author OPENLY admits that he is afraid of Muslims killing him. Does it make him ISLAMOPHOBIC?
Kepha says
Yes, it does make the likes of Horus Gilgamesh and Penn Jillette Islamophobic. And Islamophobic, in the sense we’re scared of what Muslims and Islam will do to us, is exactly what the creeps want. They want us cringing every time some jerk yells “Allah-o Akbar!” instead of giving him a Bronx cheer.
voegelinian says
Are you saying Molly Norris, who didn’t have the money and resources to adequately protect herself, her family and friends, should have, and should still now, come out into public view and stop being, as Mirren so indiscriminately put it, such a “cowardly lickspittle”…?
Once again, I detect the misplaced braggadocio of the asymptotic, channeling their anger and frustration in the wrong direction, in order to avoid the conclusion they are really afraid of: condemning all Muslims and advocating their West do something about it (i.e., total deportation).
(Nota bene: a sociopolitical movement, like the Counter-Jihad, is engaging in a war of ideas to try to wake up its surrounding culture, a process that takes time — years, possibly decades — and thus the advocacy of total deportation at this stage perforce manifests itself as an effort to push the meme in the war of ideas. I say that to forestall the inevitable obtuse rejoinder “Wull, you can’t deport them now, so it’s unrealistic…!!!” Other obtuse inevitables I’ve wearily encountered over the years (like my absolute favorite — “Where are you going to deport them TO…???“), I trust, are waiting in the wings as I type…)
Angemon says
voegelinian posted:
“condemning all Muslims and advocating their West do something about it (i.e., total deportation).
(Nota bene: a sociopolitical movement, like the Counter-Jihad, is engaging in a war of ideas to try to wake up its surrounding culture, a process that takes time — years, possibly decades — and thus the advocacy of total deportation at this stage perforce manifests itself as an effort to push the meme in the war of ideas. I say that to forestall the inevitable obtuse rejoinder “Wull, you can’t deport them now, so it’s unrealistic…!!!” Other obtuse inevitables I’ve wearily encountered over the years (like my absolute favorite — “Where are you going to deport them TO…???“), I trust, are waiting in the wings as I type…)”
So voeg, where do you suggest an American convert, without any other nationality, should be deported to? Assume he can trace his lineage back to the Pre-Colombian era.
I’ve asked this the first time, what, 10-12 months now?, and I still haven’t got an answer from you. It’s like you want to push the “total deportation” “meme” without knowing what “deportation” actually means.
Matthieu Baudin says
Authors and Social Critics like Horus go for the easy pickings, the phony controversial style that is lapped up by a lazy radical readership.
Islam is so brittle that it’s a wonder it hasn’t splintered into shards and worn down to sand granules to return to the Arabian sands.
David says
One can only wish and wait.
voegelinian says
It’;s tempting to conclude from the massive rot of Islam that that sums it up; one then (if not factoring in anything else) may reasonably scratch one’s head in bafflement as to why Islam not only lasted so long, but often lasted virulently, and now is only showing signs of resilient revival. The latter, however, moves us reasonably to infer that the massive rot does not exhaust the psycho-cultural phenomenon of Islam as actualized in diverse ways by hundreds of millions of Muslims.
I.e., the temptation by analysts in the Counter-Jihad is to frame the problem only negatively, rather than to supplement that with positive factors inspiring and galvanizing (and organizing, in deceptively diverse ways) the Umma which we reasonably infer must exist. (Nota bene to the Jihad Watch sophomores: when I say “positive” I mean it in roughly the same way that a doctor might use it when he returns to the examining room to gravely inform his patient that his tests for colon cancer came back “positive”).
gravenimage says
Oh, the survival of Islam—sadly—does not surprise me, Voeg.
There have always been those who seek unearned “superiority”, and a sanction to abuse and brutalize others.
Combine that with the creed that sanctions sloth and stagnation, and not just condones but *sacralizes* living off the productive labor of those who can nonetheless be considered “inferiors”, as well as the sanction for violently controlling the actions of others, and we see much of the unhealthy appeal of Islam.
As has been noted many times before, it is no coincidence that Islam appeals so greatly to violent felons—it so closely mirrors their already existing world view.
Of course, sadism, exploitation, pathological envy, paranoia, and “anger-management issues” are all rightly regarded as dysfunctions in the West—but they form the very bedrock of the Islamic weltanshauung.
Alice says
God works in mysterious ways. Now that heretical book will not be in children’s hands.
Alice says
This cancels my above statement. Quite tired, Sorry!
David says
Every time we capitulate to muslims, it strengthens them and advances their cause. As Bugs would say, “What a maroon!”
Cecilia Ellis says
“The author of the Awkward Moments Children’s Bible, which illustrates controversial or strange passages in the Bible, has announced that he’s canceling a follow-up project that would have illustrated parts of the Quran because of fears for his safety and the safety of the illustrators.”
– Or could it be that his publishers could not allow a comic book to consist of 114 chapters and 6000 – 7000 pages, one page for each Quranic verse?
“Why? Because of a certain group of fringe maniacal ‘radical’ bullies who equate the transfer of lead and pigments into shapes on paper as blasphemy — punishable by death,” the author, going by the pseudonym Horus Gilgamesh, explains on his website.”
– The notion of demoniac is germane, but not to a “fringe.” Rather, all who profess Islam as their religion are ironically submitting to Evil . . . “the Greatest of Deceivers” . . . Allah. That entity permeates all the Islamic texts and writings. The Quranic mandates to kill those who do not accept Evil as their “God,” to break every one of the Ten Commandments (which are not referenced in the Qur’an), and to break Jesus’ greatest commandment (Love) verify their source — the same entity that Jesus met in the desert before He commenced His public ministry. Jesus said, “No.” Muhammad said, “Yes.”
– Is it not a remarkable coincidence that the author chose as his pseudonym, Horus Gilgamesh? Horus was the son of Isis and Gilgamesh was obsessed with seeking immortality due to his fear of death. The coward has chosen his pseudonym well.
Mirren10 says
”– Is it not a remarkable coincidence that the author chose as his pseudonym, Horus Gilgamesh? Horus was the son of Isis and Gilgamesh was obsessed with seeking immortality due to his fear of death. The coward has chosen his pseudonym well.”
Indeed.
mezcukor says
Such cowards.
Ekster says
This is so typical. Writers and comedians will never cease to mock those who won’t fight back, but they back off immediately when bloodthirsty members of the death cult start making threads. This writer, “Horus Gilgamesh” is not even man enough to write under his real name, while he has nothing to fear from Christians and he knows it. He is a complete and utter coward like most leftists.
Stardusty Psyche says
Hi Ekster,
I know a number of critics of Christianity who are especially critical of Islam because they recognize Islam to be the most violent, fascistic, and dangerous religion today.
Kurt Westergaard
Theo van Gogh
Cabu (Jean Cabut
Elsa Cayat
Charb (Stéphane Charbonnier
Philippe Honoré
Bernard Maris
Mustapha Ourrad
Michel Renaud
Tignous (Bernard Verlhac)
Georges Wolinski
Avijit Roy
Washiqur Rahman
Ananta Bijoy Das
Ayaan Hirsi Ali
Christopher Hitchens,
Richard Dawkins.
Sam Harris, ,
Pat Condell
Bill Maher
Stardusty Psyche
Red Bee says
Mr. Spencer is of course a very busy man these days, but this is no excuse for sloppy journalism. Apparently he did not read Horus Gilgamesh’s website. Here Mr. Gilgamesh explains he cancels the project out of safety concerns and states:
“I would like to state emphatically that this project is not being cancelled out of any sort of respect for any irrational ancient religions that threaten to silence critical thinking and/or satirical questioning with death. No, it is being cancelled because of very rational fears brought on by the reality that such threats (and actions) are still carried out today – in 2015 – right under the noses of a modern society in the light of day, all in the name of [a prophet nobody has ever met who made a series of unprovable promises in exchange for their willingness to kill to prove their devotion].”
Mr. Spencer labels this behavior as cowardice; it’s an opinion one can have, however running when someone threatens to kill you is normal behavior, especially when you are unable to defend yourself.
Also the fact it sends another signal that terrorism works is unimportant. Islam does not need another signal to realize this; it has known this for over 1400 years.
Why not talk about the real cowards? For instance the Presidium of the Dutch parliament. They voted against an exhibition of the cartoons shown in Garland. The Dutch House of Representatives has a hall, especially for exhibitions pertaining to socially important issues. The reason they give (according to Geert Wilders) is showing the cartoons is politics. Obviously this is not the real reason (it is not true either; there is no current debate about the limits of what can be drawn, written or said. We already have laws and people can go to court when they don’t agree with this sort of activity.). The real reasons probably include ignorance of the Islamic threat, political correctness, fear of terror attack, incompetence and a desire to get money without the trouble of doing what they are paid for (reigning on behalf of His Royal Majesty The King Willem Alexander).
We should have this exhibition in government controlled places and/or places protected by the government. Buildings of the press for instance. We need a free press so it is a government’s task to protect studios and journalists against the jihad threat. There are exhibition facilities in the European parliament in Brussel too; they should show the exhibition.
It is a governments task to protect the freedom of speech; they have the means to do that. They are in a position to punish Islam for making terror threats (by showing the cartoons, investigating and arresting jihadists etc.); private persons and companies are not. Not selling Mr. Spencers books in your store is not cowardice; maybe you yourself are brave enough, but if you have employees you don’t want them to get hurt.
Click my name to go to my website.
gravenimage says
Robert Spencer is not misrepresenting this situation at all. There are many who consider themselves “transgressive” and brave for spoofing Christianity and Judaism or any other “ism”, but will not touch Islam, either out of fear or misplaced “respect”.
This is true of all too many writers, pundits, comedians, cartoonists and satirists, and “Horus Gilgamesh” is squarely in this craven and hypocritical “tradition”.
Angemon says
Red Bee posted:
“Mr. Spencer is of course a very busy man these days, but this is no excuse for sloppy journalism. Apparently he did not read Horus Gilgamesh’s website. Here Mr. Gilgamesh explains he cancels the project out of safety concerns and states:
“I would like to state emphatically that this project is not being cancelled out of any sort of respect for any irrational ancient religions that threaten to silence critical thinking and/or satirical questioning with death. No, it is being cancelled because of very rational fears brought on by the reality that such threats (and actions) are still carried out today – in 2015 – right under the noses of a modern society in the light of day, all in the name of [a prophet nobody has ever met who made a series of unprovable promises in exchange for their willingness to kill to prove their devotion].””
So Horus Gilgamesh is canceling his work due to fear of a jihad attack. Not sure what your problem is.
Champ says
Wow ‘red bee’ has some *nerve* promoting his own blog on Jihad Watch while taking swipes at Robert Spencer.
“Click my name to go to my website.”
No, thank you.
Jimmy Carroll says
totally unnecessary to type a post that long explaining why this author Gilgamesh is a COWARD. for one thing if he views Islam as dangerous why in the hell is he attacking an making fun of Christianity? because this thing is only growing I guess he plans on converting to Islam out of fear one day but in the meantime take as many shots at Christianity as he can? smh cowards who are afraid to speak out disgust me their cowardice an stupidity gives this evil fertile ground I’d rather die like a hero than live like a COWARD.
Champ says
I’d rather die like a hero than live like a COWARD.
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Hear, hear!
Joseph says
Personally I’d rather live like a hero and let the cowards die for their stupidity. If however it comes to pass that my life must be forfeited…may it be for JESUS CHRIST.
Joseph says
Personally I’d rather live like a hero and let the cowards
That should read cowards and my enemies
Whitey Bulger says
Hey Red Bee, go back to der Nederlands and enjoy your new Muslim Masters! You Euroweenies make me sick! Horus Gilgamesh IS saying that he is capitulating to the Muslims because he is afraid of them! Get out of America and go serve the Ayatolla Khomeini.
George Romero says
Red Bee , Don’t come to Jihad Watch and run Robert’s post down.
Truth is that cowards who freely criticise other religions but cower from islam death cult are jihad enablers.Horus might be a good guy or not , but he didn’t turn up for the event he promoted.He was bowing to the sharia blaspham laws.
Kepha says
Champ, gravenimage, Mirren, Joseph, and others:
Thanks for putting up with an old man’s rant.
Still, I freely admit that I’d still like the to throw a rotten egg in the face of someone like Penn Gillette when he throws me the bone about being “a good egg” over his highly disrespectful and offensive idiocy.
Ash says
Wow and people wonder why there are wars and killings on this earth, finding feeble excuses for wealth when the most logic answer is everything your comment states. Yes let’s teach children to hate others and when religion is not enough to feed their hatred let’s turn it to racism, when that’s too common and not enough fun, let’s do mass murder’s ,kids kill parents , teachers and fellow pupil’s you’d want to know where did it all began..My answer to you is stupidity infected but ignorant hate and illiteracy taught by the best teachers in the world “Parents” is where it all starts..How can you hate something you have no knowledge of, living a life of “Echoed” hatred because it has became a world wide fashion trend..Have you no common sense or logic, or rather do you have any integrity to think for yourself ?? That’s the most uneducated statement for an adult to make..Kids are the most honest and truthful creatures on earth, their love is the most truthful and they don’t know what it is to hate or discriminate. They don’t see colour or become racist when they placed among kids of a darker shade..Everything about them is pure, its idiots like you that infected them with your stupidity..instead of building a better future for them you are killing their lives because your level of education is far below normal..So yes let’s see where your grand kids would end up after your wonderful level of teaching..
Aasiyah says
Like I’ve said before ignorance is a fashion trend which you clearly proven it to be..Islam has been in existence for 1450 years , if we were commanded by God to kill all un believers I can guarantee you that the 5.5 billion non Muslims that exists today would have never been born, that’s plain and simple logic. You want to tell me about my Qur’aan but clearly you chose to select verses without having the full knowledge of what the whole chapter consists of..Again illiteracy at its best..have you read the Qur’aan instead of copying and pasting verses which has been explicitly viewed and used to spread hate on every Islamophobic website ? What makes Islam bad ? What has been chosen for you to see on the media ? So a serial killer whose Christian is not as dangerous as a murderer who is muslim, yet the serial killer is just a killer but the murderer will be exclusively known to be Muslim ? How does the one religion differ from the other, or how does the one man differ from the other..Again I stress upon common sense and logic..
When you do decide to educate yourself or take some God given initiative then we can take this discussion further..Other then that I do not respond to worthless threats and uneducated statements..I’ve heard the same stupidity too many times and my time spent on ignorance is time wasted..
Angemon says
Aasiyah posted:
“Islam has been in existence for 1450 years , if we were commanded by God to kill all un believers I can guarantee you that the 5.5 billion non Muslims that exists today would have never been born, that’s plain and simple logic”
No, that’s plain and simple islamic arrogance being used to disguise failure. “If we wanted you dead you would be dead”. Hogwash. Are we supposed to ignore the centuries of aggressions started by muslims against other nations? No Aasiyah, many, many millions of non-muslims living, for example, in Europe, owe heir existence to brave warriors who fought and drove back mohammedan hordes intent on killing them – Tours, Navas de Tolosa, Vienna, Lepanto, Vienna again, etc.
“You want to tell me about my Qur’aan but clearly you chose to select verses without having the full knowledge of what the whole chapter consists of.”
And, of course, you don’t go to explain, for example, 9:29-31, verses which mandate the conversion, subjugation as dhimmies or death of Jews and Christians for religious reasons. All we need to know is that we’re being unfair and leaving “context” out. Sssshhhh. SSSSHHHH, no asking for details, and no actual looking into the context. If Aasiyah says we’ve got it all wrong when a couple of verses say to convert, subjugate or kill Jews and Christians because of their religious beliefs then we’ve got it all wrong.
“Again illiteracy at its best..have you read the Qur’aan instead of copying and pasting verses which has been explicitly viewed and used to spread hate on every Islamophobic website ?”
Why are you asking that after working on the assumption we didn’t? And how is exactly pointing out that verses in the quran command muslims to kill Jews and Christians because of their religious beliefs “spreading hate”?
“What makes Islam bad ?”
Plenty of things, but I’d go with its imperialist, totalitarian and discriminatory agenda. For starters.
“What has been chosen for you to see on the media ?”
Only good things. But we’ve learned to check things for ourselves, so we laugh in the face of the media that tell us that islam is a religion of peace.
“So a serial killer whose Christian is not as dangerous as a murderer who is muslim, yet the serial killer is just a killer but the murderer will be exclusively known to be Muslim ?”
When we have muslims killing people and justifying it with islamic scriptures, leaving out their religion and motivations is tantamount to lying.
“How does the one religion differ from the other, or how does the one man differ from the other.”
One religion preaches love, another preaches hatred.
“Again I stress upon common sense and logic.”
I bet you do. I bet common sense and logic stress you out.
“When you do decide to educate yourself or take some God given initiative then we can take this discussion further.”
Start by giving the “context” for 9:29-31 and explaining us why it doesn’t mean what it clearly means.
“Other then that I do not respond to worthless threats and uneducated statements.”
Don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out.
Jimmy Carroll says
first of all you are commanded to kill or convert all non believers and if you don’t then you aren’t a very devout Muslim are you? secondly that term you used “islamophobia” is a made up word by the Muslim brotherhood to hide the genocidal face of Islam. and yes I’ve read the Quran and it’s commands are quite CLEAR. thirdly the murder itself is just as bad but what you conveniently leave out is Christianity doesn’t teach or command its followers to harm or kill non believers in Christ, Islam does teach to kill non believers so this moral equivalence tactic your using to paint Christianity the same as Islam is absurd because Christianity is only foundational to JESUS. so why don’t you stop trying to defend the indefensible go home an rethink your life.