Is the mosque being investigated? If not, why not? “O.C. men plead not guilty to plotting to fight for Islamic State,” by Joel Rubin and Joseph Serna, Los Angeles Times, June 8, 2015:
Two Orange County men accused of conspiring to aid Islamic State militants fighting in Iraq and Syria pleaded not guilty in federal court Monday.
Nader Elhuzayel and Muhanad Badawi, both 24, allegedly conspired “to provide material support to a foreign terrorist organization, the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant,” according to a criminal complaint filed in U.S. District Court in Orange County.
Federal authorities said the men drew the attention of counter-terrorism agents with inflammatory comments on social media, prompting an investigation that led to their arrests last month. They are due back in court July 6 and are scheduled to go to trial July 28.
Details of a call between the two men before their capture were contained in an FBI agent’s affidavit.
According to the document, on the last Friday of April, after prayer services at a mosque in Orange County, Elhuzayel and Badawi spoke enthusiastically about Islamic State.
One allegedly proclaimed his wish to join the group and die a martyr on a battlefield. Although Yemen was attractive for its natural beauty, the men allegedly agreed they’d prefer to fight in Syria. They would drink wine together in the paradise that awaited them after they were killed, they reportedly said….
Elhuzayel and Badawi are accused of setting in motion a plan for Elhuzayel to travel to the Middle East and realize his wish to fight for Islamic State.
Agents from a counter-terrorism task force intercepted Elhuzayel at Los Angeles International Airport before he boarded a plane bound for Turkey last month. Badawi, who is accused of purchasing Elhuzayel’s plane ticket, was taken into custody at an Anaheim gas station, an FBI spokeswoman said….
On May 7, agents watched the men as they sat together in Badawi’s car, according to the affidavit. Later, a review of airline records showed that while they were in the car, Badawi’s debit card was used to purchase a one-way ticket for Elhuzayel to fly from Los Angeles to Istanbul and then on to Tel Aviv, the affidavit alleged.
In a phone call with Badawi, Elhuzayel discussed vague plans to visit Palestinian relatives in the West Bank before finding a way to cross the border into Egypt in the hope of making his way to a battlefield, according to the affidavit.
Although the men talked about their hope to reunite someday as fighters, they did not discuss any travel plans for Badawi. However, because he is believed to have paid for Elhuzayel’s ticket, he too is criminally culpable, federal authorities argued in the filings.
Elhuzayel’s mother last month dismissed the allegations against her son as “impossible.” Speaking on the phone before his initial court appearance, Falak Elhuzayel described her son as “a very good kid — not the kind of person who would fit into this kind of category.”
She said she and her husband dropped their son off at LAX the day of his arrest and confirmed he was preparing to board a flight to Istanbul and continue on to Israel. The family, she said, is Palestinian and her son was traveling to visit relatives in the West Bank….
She described her son as “Muslim, but not very religious, just normal.” Over the last year, he had become more observant, frequently attending Friday prayer services at a mosque in Anaheim, she said. But she insisted it was impossible that he’d slipped into extremism.
He was, she said, “a simple, gullible, nice kid.”
Don McKellar says
Is there a running tally of the mosques from which these creeps come from? There needs to be a list of shame somewhere, so everybody knows where these jihadis are getting their training. And so that there is no excuse for law enforcement not to be investigating these terror centers.
mortimer says
If the counterjihad were more organized, these mosques could be picketed to draw attention to their jihad activities and encouragement of conspiracy.
Don McKellar says
It would be great if there was a map of the United States and Canada and one could see where they hot spots of terrorist training are. Then you could click on on the black flags of Islam (or whatever) and up would pop up the mosques and the list of terrorists who came from there. On that map could also be the Islamic jihad terror attacks and would be terror attack arrest sites. It would be a very interesting and very graphic display of what’s going on where. The starting point for the map could either be the start of Obama’s regime or Sept 11th/01. Although the map would be pretty blank between Sept 11/01 and the start of Obama’s regime…
mortimer says
“HOTSPOTS OF JIHAD”???
Wherever there is an ISLAMIC STUDY GROUP where Muslims pour over the source texts and learn the personal obligation of jihad.
Intelligence communities should find the STUDY GROUPS…they will find the jihad.
mortimer says
The source of radicalization is ISLAMIC STUDY GROUPS where they study the source texts of Islam. What is it exactly in Islam’s source texts that motivate Muslims to commit murder of innocent people? You would know immediately if you had studied them yourself, but most of our leaders in the West know nothing of Islam’s source texts. They assume the relativistic nonsense that ‘all religions are basically the same’.
However, the reality is 10% of Muslims have gone to Islamic study groups and learned the personal duty of jihad.
particolor says
It seem the more they study in one of these Groups the quicker they turn into a bigger Rabid Barbarian than they already are ?
The Churches would be Overflowing with Missionaries if it worked like that for Ministers !! 🙂
steve brown says
I know what the news media is saying and also what politicians around the world keep saying. However, Im beginning to wonder, is there a possible connection between one of the worlds most prominent religions and our entire world being under constant deadly terroristic attacks. In; elementary schools, high schools, colleges and universities, even the slightest mention that one particular religious ideology could be responsible for worldwide deadly terror will get a student expelled. Yet still. I keep scratching my head and thinking, it sounds like a ”Religious Ideology ” is behind all of the ; murder, rape, killing and molestation of young prepubescent girls. It can’t be. The; educational institutions, television, radio, internet, all of the worlds governmental officials- could never be complicit in a global disinformation scheme which helps to enable and foster a particular religious ideology to spread acts of brutally savage and murderous terror upon all of humanity. No, we are all safe because the leaders of our world are; sane, kind, loving and desire a safe and benevolent world. No need to worry. Just trust your leaders .
Mirren10 says
“A simple, gullible, nice kid.”
Aren’t they all ?
Methinks the FBI should be monitoring mummy and daddy, *as well as the mosque*.
Huck Folder says
Gullibles Travel
Angemon says
I’m going to go on a limb and say that the investigators spoke with a mosque representative who told them that he doesn’t remember seeing him on the mosque…
Sam says
I am getting very suspicious that these Mosques and the Imams preaching the religion of peace in them may have something to do with this global Jihad thing. What do you think? Or these are millions of “isolated instances” where Moslems are involved which have nothing to do with Islam.
mortimer says
Islam has NOTHING to do with Islam.
particolor says
Much to do about Nothing !
Who said that ? 🙂
mortimer says
Does the mosque teach the personal obligation of jihad? Why not?
Ibn Khaldun (d. 1406), jurist, renowned philosopher, historian, and sociologist, summarized these consensus opinions from five centuries of prior Muslim jurisprudence with regard to the uniquely Islamic institution of jihad:
“In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the universalism of the [Muslim] mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or by force… The other religious groups did not have a universal mission, and the holy war was not a religious duty for them, save only for purposes of defense… Islam is under obligation to gain power over other nations.”
-Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.” – Footnote commentary on jihad from p580 of Sahih Al-Bukhar, publ. by Maktba Dar-us-Salam
-Definition of Dictionary of Islam: Jihad is “a religious war with those who are unbelievers (kufaar) in the mission of Muhammad. It is an incumbent religious duty, established in the Quran and in the Traditions as a divine institution, enjoined specially for the purpose advancing Islam and repelling evils from Muslims.”
-Ayatollah Morteza Motahhari, former Chairman of the Revolutionary Council of Iran, in a collection of lectures titled, “Jihad: The Holy War of Islam and Its Legitimacy in the Quran,” published by the Islamic Propagation Organization, Tehran, Iran, and posted on the website of Al-Islam.org (accessed Apr. 26, 2007), wrote: “‘And Fight those who have not faith in God, nor in the Hereafter, and (who) forbid not what God and His Prophet have forbidden and (who ) are not committed to the religion of truth, of those who have been brought the Book, until they pay tribute by hand, and they are the low.’ (9:29) [chapter:verse of the Qur’an]
Huck Folder says
mortimer:
While I relish it when trolling twats, quoting ignorant ‘experts’, proclaim the inevitable obfuscation and taqiyya lie of ‘the lesser jihad’, I think we’ll let the real experts preemptively blow that out of the water:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
“The context of the Qur’an is elucidated by Hadith (the teachings, deeds and sayings of the Islamic prophet Muhammad). Of the 199 references to jihad in perhaps the most standard collection of hadith – Bukhari – ALL [you got that, Sabri Shite, et al? ALL!] assume that JIHAD MEANS WARFARE.
“The Messenger of Allah was asked about the BEST JIHAD. He said: “The BEST JIHAD is the one in which your horse is slain and your blood is spilled.” (also cited by Ibn Nuhaas and narrated by Ibn Habbaan)”
“Ibn Nuhaas also cited a hadith from Musnad Ahmad ibn Hanbal, where Muhammad states that the HIGHEST kind of JIHAD, is “The person who is killed whilst spilling the last of his blood.”(Ahmed 4/144)”
“The practice of periodic raids by Bedouin against enemy tribes and settlements to COLLECT BOOTY predates the ‘revelations’ of the Quran, and according to some scholars, while Islamic leaders “instilled into the hearts of the warriors the belief” in JIHAD “HOLY WAR” and ghaza (raids), the “fundamental structure” of this bedouin warfare “remained, … raiding to collect booty”.”
“In his work, The History of Baghdad, Al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, an 11th-century Islamic scholar, referenced a statement by the companion of Muhammad Jabir ibn Abd-Allah. The reference stated that Jabir said, “We have returned from the lesser jihad (al-jihad al-asghar) to the greater jihad (al-jihad al-akbar).” When asked, “What is the greater jihad?,” he replied, “It is the struggle against oneself.” This reference gave rise to the distinguishing of two forms of jihad: “greater” and “lesser”.
The hadith does not appear in any of the authoritative collections, and according to the Muslim Jurist Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, the source of the quote is UNRELIABLE:
“This saying is widespread and it is a saying by Ibrahim ibn Ablah according to Nisa’i in al-Kuna. Ghazali mentions it in the Ihya’ and al-`Iraqi said that Bayhaqi related it on the authority of Jabir and said: There is WEAKNESS in its chain of transmission.” Hajar al Asqalani, Tasdid al-qaws, see also Kashf al-Khafaa’ (no.1362)”
“In contrast, the Hanbali scholar Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyya did believe that “internal Jihad” is important but he suggests those hadith as WEAK which consider “Jihad of the heart/soul” to be more important than “Jihad by the sword”. Contemporary Islamic scholar Abdullah Yusuf Azzam has argued the hadith is NOT JUST WEAK but “is in fact a FALSE, FABRICATED hadith which has NO BASIS. It is only a saying of Ibrahim Ibn Abi `Abalah, one of the Successors, and it CONTRADICTS TEXTUAL EVIDENCE AND REALITY.”
But just look at one of the sources who is using that taqiyya – the ISLAMIC SUPREME COUNCIL OF AMERICA (are they one of the cair/MB network in the US?). Practically the whole thing is one long lie from start to finish, but leftards and dhimmicrats lap it up.
http://islamicsupremecouncil.org/understanding-islam/legal-rulings/5-jihad-a-misunderstood-concept-from-islam.html?start=9
“Military action is therefore only one means of JIHAD, and is VERY RARE. To ‘highlight’ [taqiyyate] this point, the ‘prophet’ Mohammed told his followers returning from a military campaign: “This day we have returned from the minor jihad to the major jihad,” which he said meant returning from armed battle to the peaceful battle for self-control and betterment.” [Yeah, that and $2 will get you a cup of coffee]
“WHAT JIHAD IS NOT
…
Warfare in the name of God is not unique to Islam. Other faiths throughout the world have waged wars with religious justifications.”
Duh, two idiot imams indulge in mutual mental masturbation to churn out lying crap like this, then pathetically try to justify a VERY RARE event by tu quoque.
Is that not also a classic example of PROJECTION?
A simple question for passing trolls:
What was the “Religion of Peace™” doing at the Gates of Vienna in 1683?
mortimer says
His mother described her son as “Muslim, but not very religious, just NORMAL.” He was, she said, “a simple, gullible, nice kid.” She didn’t see the difference between ‘NORMAL’ and ‘JIHADIST’. His own mother.
But then, he met a group of RADICAL ISLAMIC CHIC youngsters with whom he studied the personal obligation of jihad. Then he increased his faith and became an ENTHUSIASTIC Muslim ready to make a glorious mark on HISTORY.
Then Allah REVEALED jihad DUTY to him! Then he became a dangerous, deadly KILLER ZOMBIE JIHADIST!
Instant Jihad Syndrome can take place in the mind of ANY MUSLIM at ANY TIME! They suddenly change and flip the switch to LETHAL.
mortimer says
This young man reminds me of pitbulls I met…they start young, sweet and gentle and then turn into a land shark.
particolor says
When the Inbred Gene kicks in.