“A knowledgeable source said the agreement will ‘tighten the language’ governing rules that must be followed by counter-terrorism agents and detectives” — which will make it easier for jihad terrorists to operate. Look at what the NYPD says about the plaintiffs below, and their agenda is obvious.
“Deal reached in lawsuit over NYPD’s surveillance of Muslims,” by John Marzulli, New York Daily News, June 22, 2015:
The city has reached a settlement “in principal” [sic] of a federal lawsuit accusing the NYPD Intelligence Division of religious profiling of Muslims.
The terms of the deal remain confidential until additional details are worked out, city lawyer Peter Farrell informed Judge Pamela Chen in a letter filed in Brooklyn Federal Court.
The suit was brought by three Muslim men, two mosques and a nonprofit organization alleging they were harmed by “suspicion-less surveillance” of their religious activities.
NYPD officials had pushed back, saying there was plenty of basis to look into the plaintiffs.
A knowledgeable source said the agreement will “tighten the language” governing rules that must be followed by counter-terrorism agents and detectives under the so-called Handschu guidelines which resulted from a 1971 lawsuit over the NYPD special services unit’s spying on Communist radicals.
After 9/11, there had been an easing of the Handschu guidelines to help the NYPD protect the city from emerging terrorist threats, but there was concern in the Muslim community and among the lawyers in the original Handschu case that detectives were “failing to pay attention” to the guidelines.
NYPD officials fought the Muslim suit, offering detailed explanations about why the Intelligence Division had opened probes of the plaintiffs.
Members of the security team and the caretaker at the Masjid At-Taqwa mosque in Brooklyn — which is a plaintiff in the suit — gave instruction on how to disarm cops, and conducted paintball exercises and survival training outside the city, during which the leader of the security team referred to members of his paintball squad as “jihad warriors” and “jihad assassins,” according to court papers.
The Masjid Al Ansar mosque in Brooklyn, where plaintiff Hamid Raza is the imam, was co-founded by 23-year-old wannabe jihadist Abdel Hameed Shehadeh of Staten Island, who was convicted plotting to join the Taliban or Al Qaeda, the city had argued.
The wannabe subway bombers Najibullah Zazi, Zarein Ahmedzay and Adis Medunjanin, who trained with Al Qaeda in Pakistan, had attended lectures by leaders of the mosque.
Another plaintiff, Mohammad Elshinawy, whose father is a close associate of convicted terrorist Omar Abdel Rahman (the “blind sheik”), was allegedly the leader of a paintball trip that he called training for jihad, with members of the Muslim Student Associations, court papers stated.
Plaintiff Asad Dandia was also reputed to be a “close associate” of Long Island wannabe jihadist Justin Kaliebe, who pleaded guilty to plotting to travel overseas to join Al Qaeda.…
Richie says
I suspect a big reason the police and FBI give a wide berth to terrorist Mosques (such as the Islamic society of Boston) is out of fear of lawsuits by Muslims. Once again, Muslims use bully tactics and get their way
Peggy says
I am so angry at our governments that I nearly said good on them for winning. It’s not how I feel but I am so frustrated because Muslims keep using our laws to subdue us and nobody even thinks about changing the laws to stop it.
Why blame the Muslims for winning when we keep enabling them by having such ridiculous laws which don’t protect us at all and providing them with public money to engage lawyers to our detriment.
We have to insist that the law cannot be used to the benefit of a terrorist and our law enforcement must have everything at their disposal to fight them. We must insist that PC be thrown into the rubbish bin where it belongs.
Only then will the Muslims be disarmed and unable to win. Only then we have a chance of being safe. We have to start with getting rid of the Human Rights rubbish imposed on us and put our country and our safety before anything else.
Expecting Muslims not to use everything at their disposal to fight us is naive so let’s not give them the tools.
Ed says
OUr laws were not designed to protect us from asymmetrical warfare.
We need to recognize that jihad (holly war) has been waged against us and we are under attack by Islamic combatants.
Bamaguje says
Indeed the West’s pussyfooting on the global Jihadist menace is dangerous and suicidal.
Human rights are human beings, not the sub-human savages called Muslims… who by their heinous savagery and barbarism have clearly removed themselves from the bounds of humanity.
I have said before that it will take at least another two 9/11s for Western leaders and lamestream media to see reason, and deal Islam the death blow that is required.
And what do the plaintiffs mean by “suspicion-less surveillance”?
Muslims have declared war on the rest of humanity, which they consider Dar-ul harb (land of war). So all Muslims are by definition suspicious.
Recep Erdogan, the Turkish president declared that “the mosques are our barracks, and the (Muslim) faithful our soldiers”
Godless says
You omitted part of the quote. “The domes are our helmets, the minarets our bayonets” LOL and we are told Turkey is a “moderate secular” Muslim country.
Brian Hoff says
Do you believe that the white man who was than white power believer who murder 9 black in than church is than terrorist if you donot you have no right to take away muslim constution right to use our legal system to defend then self against Islamoprobic racist like you.
Uncle Vladdi says
Our laws don’t need to be changed – they only need to be enforced.
We already have lots of laws against crime-gang membership and extortion.
Islam is nothing more or less than the world’s oldest and largest extortion-racket CRIME syndicate and it’s holy mobster “muslims” are only gang members
ISLAM IS THE ONE AND ONLY CRIMINAL CREED IN THE WORLD WHICH OFFICIALLY STATES THAT ITS MEMBERS MUST MURDER ALL THE NON-MEMBERS OF THEIR GANG, SIMPLY FOR NOT BELIEVING THE SAME WAY THEY DO, AND FOR THE “CRIME” OF NOT BEING MUSLIMS.
No holy mobster “muslim” has to become “radicalized” in order to turn to violence against any random non-muslim.
The existence of islam itself incites muslims to violence.
WHAT “PROVOKES” MUSLIMS, IS SIMPLY DISBELIEF IN ISLAM!
That’s the Qur’an’s whole basis:
“Those Who Do Not Believe Must Be Murdered For Their Disbelief.”
“Slandering” Muhammad is, to them, simple disbelief in islam, because the disbelievers (“infidels”) thereby imply they DO believe Moe to have been mistaken, insane, an evil liar, or all of the above! So all non-muslims in the world have been sentenced to “Death By Muslim” for their “crime” of not being muslims them selves!
“If you don’t think and act the same as us, we will murder you!”
THAT ALONE IS THE MESSAGE OF ISLAM.
And it implicitly shows what “thinking and acting the same as us” is, to all muslims:
“to be a criminal who pretends he has the holy right to murder other people for not being murderous criminals like us!”
You all simply follow Muhammad’s “Perfect Example.”
“The apostle [Muhammad] said, ‘Kill any Jew that falls into your power.’ Thereupon Muhayyisa bin Masud leapt upon Ibn Sunayna, a Jewish merchant with whom they had social and business relations, and killed him. Huwayyisa was not a Muslim at the time though he was the elder brother. When Muhayyisa killed [the Jewish merchant], Huwayyisa began to beat [his brother Muhayyisa], saying, ‘You enemy of God, did you kill him when much of the fat on your belly comes from his wealth?’ Muhayyisa answered, ‘Had the one who ordered me to kill him ordered me to kill you I would have cut your head off.’…[Huwayyisa] replied, ‘By God, if Muhammad had ordered you to kill me would you have killed me?’ [Muhayyisa]said, ‘Yes, by God, had he ordered me to cut off your head I would have done so.’ [Huwayyisa] exclaimed, “By God, a religion which can bring you to this is marvellous!’ and [Huwayyisa] became a Muslim.”
Yes, he attacked a Jew who had done them no wrong, and had in fact only helped them by putting food on their table, for being a Jew. Why is being born a Jew worthy of being murdered for it?
Simply because Jews aren’t muslims.
Allah’s law:
9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
The practical application of Allahls law: [Reliance Of The Traveller]
O9.R The caliph (025) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians (N: provided he has first invited them to enter Islam in faith and practice, and if they will not, then invited them to enter the social order of Islam by paying the non Muslim poll tax (jizya, def: O1 L4) – which is the significance of their paying it, not the money itself – while remaining in their ancestral religions)
(O: and the war continues) until they become Muslim or else pay the non-Muslim poll tax (O: in accordance with the word of Allah Most High, “Fight those who do not believe in Allah and the Last Day and who forbid not what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden – who do not practice the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book – until they pay the poll tax out of hand and are humbled” (Koran 9:29).
To learn the reality of Jizya, turn to Hedaya, volume 2, Book 9, pages 212-218. You can see the most important parts in this pdf file, with links to source:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/213423566/Hedaya-2-141-Annotated
Jizya is a payment “in lieu of destruciton”, and “a species of punishment for infidelity”.
That is the law of the Hanafi school of law which ran in India and formed the basis of the Ottoman Empire’s Legal Code.
The infamous fatwa of Imam Al-Shafi’i is not clearly stated in Reliance O9.1.
Find it in “The Book Of Jihad” pg. 18 and get a clue:
“The minimum participation in Jihad is once a year, and more is always better. It is not allowed to have a year pass you by without any fighting except out of necessity like the weakness of Muslims and the great numbers of the enemy, or fear of extermination if you attack them first, or lack of provisions, or similar excuses. Otherwise, if there is no necessity it is not allowed to delay attacking the non-believers for more than a year.”
Imam Shafi’i states that. It is perfectly halal sunnah sharia.
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What passages of the Qur’an sanctify offensive warfare against infidels?
2:216. Jihad holy fighting in Allah’s cause is ordained for you Muslims Although you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you.
Allah knows but you do not know.
9:5. Then when the Sacred months (the Ist, 7th, 11th, and 12th months of the Islamic calendar) have passed, then kill the Mushrikun (see V.2/105) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush. But if they repent and perform Al-Salat /Iqamat Al-salat, and give Zakat, then leave their way free. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism) i.e. worshipping others besides Allah and the religion (worship) will all be for Allah alone [in the whole of the world]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides) Allah, then certainly, Allah is All-Seer of what they do.
9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission.
9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who are the Al-Muttaqun (the pious) see V.2:2.
This is all confirmed in the hadiths:
From here:
http://www.quranexplorer.com/Hadith/English/Hadith/bukhari/001.008.387.html
Bukhari Book 1 Volume 8 Hadith 387
Narrated Anas bin Malik:
Allah’s Apostle said, “I have been ordered to fight the people until they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.”
Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik,
“O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?” He replied, “Whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah’, faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have.”
IN OTHER WORDS, THE LIVES AND PROPERTY OF ALL NON-MUSLIMS ARE NOT SACRED TO MUSLIMS, UNLESS AND UNTIL THEY BECOME MUSLIMS, TOO. BECAUSE THESE PASSAGES SAY “UNTIL,” THEY ARE OPEN-ENDED AND REMAIN VALID FOR ALL TIME.
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Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the collective words and deeds of it’s Founder:
“I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, torturing, robbing, burning out of their homes, kidnapping and ransoming, enslaving, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”
– Muhammad –
Muhammad was really only a con-man and bandit-king, an arch-criminal who always blamed “god” for his own penchant for committing crimes. If Moe got away with committing a crime (and he tried them all, enthusiastically, more than once, but instead of ever showing contrition, bragged about how much fun it was to commit them, and advised everyone else to join in the fun, too), then it was held to be “obvious” that “god” wanted him to get away with having committed those crimes!
So, islam is not a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) nor is it a “race” (at all, much less one of “Poor, Oppressed, People Of Colour”)!
Obviously, islam is ONLY an ancient, ongoing extortion-racket CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
(Capisce?)!
😉
The Qur’an clearly and specifically tells muslims the Bible is wrong and also that all Christians and Jews are infidel criminals who worship a false god, and who must therefore be extorted, enslaved, and murdered for their “crime” of not being muslims:
Sura (Chapter) 47:1-4 of the Qur’an:
1: non-muslims are bad, because they insult allah by dividing his nature;
2: muslims are good, because to them allah is the cause of everything;
3: Allah made them both like that;
4: So muslims should chop off the non-muslims’ heads.
(Allah could have done it himself, but he wants you muslims to do it for him).”
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It’s all right there, in context: islamic violence is entirely general doctrine-driven, and not at all specific grievance-driven.
(And chapter 47 isn’t by any stretch even remotely the worst, most violent chapter; that honor goes to either chapter 8 or 9).
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So, if and when you consider islam to be a religion, you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?
At WORST, all REAL religions only say:
“Obey our silly rules, or GOD (/’the gods’) will get you!”
…but ONLY islam says:
“Obey our silly rules, or WE will get you (‘for god’)!”
A forced ‘Faith!’ ISN’T a “Faith!” at all – it’s only extortion, and extortion is always a CRIME.
Bottom line: If you decide to believe in “allah,” you have declared yourself a criminal, and so must be arrested, indicted, tried and convicted. Your confession of “faith” in your crime-god will help us to do so.
Sam says
Good. This means don’t talk Islam, don’t fight Islam, just submit. And why not, Islam is a religion of peace anyhow.
Don McKellar says
Sure, when all submit to the death cult of the moon god, there is peace. For a little while. And then those who are not devout enough come under the gun of those who believe they are and mosques start blowing up. Even in Saudi Arabia, home of Islam. That’s the nature of evil, isn’t it, Sammy-boy?
somehistory says
The agreement should be that they don’t engage in jihad, in jihad training, jihad language, teach how to disarm police officers and if they do so engage, they will be jailed or deported back to whichever muslim country they left in order to live in NY., and they promise not to squeal and whine about being profiled.
The beast….everywhere the same….snarling and biting, and then putting on a pretense of being hunted like the beast it is…saying it’s harmless as a newborn kitten.
They threaten and whine, knowing full well what their evil intentions are.
New York is unsafe with the number of muslims there and will only be in more danger if these jihadis are allowed to plan in secret.
Sick of it all.
Angemon says
“Language” or “noose”?
Godless says
Gimpy attempt at being witty.
Joseph says
@ Godless
I have a friend named Gimpy W.. I called him up and told him what Angemon wrote. He said he liked it and thought it was pretty witty.
I think he has the last word on what is “Gimpy” and what is not, after-all he has to live with the name.
fido says
Let’s sum it up: allah is satan and devout muslims are the devil’s minions on earth. Big bloodshed is a-comin’!!
Don McKellar says
You forgot a piece of your mythology puzzle. Anti-Christ. Because it there actually were such a thing, no character even come close to Muhammad in fulfilling that role. In fact, he fits all biblical “prophecy” perfectly. Like a sequel to a Harry Potter book. Only people really believe in this shit — which is what makes it so dangerous.
Edward says
I see no evil, I hear no evil and think no evil………turning a blind eye, eh!
Pathetic souls….if Muslin’s are free of guilt, so why they are overly concerned. Only a guilty individual or an organization……. raises objections. Are they hiding their truthful intentions?
It could be worse if sharia law was instituted here in the states…..they would sternly be subjected even to their toilet etiquette.
http://www.myreligionislam.com/detail.asp?Aid=6096
There must be an eleventh commandment in Islam: Thou shalt not get caught!
Question: Can a sharia patrol be bribed like they bribe the politicians here in the states.
Dan says
So they’re being spied on.
How’s that old saying about swinging dead cat’s apply?
These days you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting two people you know are spying on you.
brenrod says
new york suckers choose PC over life
Joe Shmo says
Bad enough on its own, but it seems doubly irresponsible as well as outrageous given that New York suffered one of the worst Islamic terror attacks in living memory.
YESHAYAHU HOLLANDER says
What is really needed is”‘tighten the language’ governing rules that must be followed by teachers and practitioners of Islam.” Incitement and threats are language which is not acceptable. IF reading verses from the Qur’an which call for killing someone, it should be made clear by the teacher that this is not applicable today – and should explain why it is not applicable today.
ninetyninepct says
Write and phone your government and the potential candidates. Canada and the USA both have elections coming up. Demand action and laws against Islamic terrorism.
I recently talked to an NDP candidate, asking what his Party was going to do about Sharia and muslim terrorist. He answered that they would possibly look at immigration policies. Typical politician bullshit.
If muzzies feel uncomfortable about being observed in their terrorist activities, they have to leave, as they offend me. PORK, PORK.
Linda Rivera says
Every Muslim terrorist on earth is REJOICING and bought their airline tickets to UNGUARDED, defenseless NYC. All Muslim terrorists have to do is file a federal lawsuit against police surveillance. Not only will the surveillance stop, they will get a nice sharia huge sum of infidel money.
So many terrorists. So many NYC targets. So many potential millions of innocent infidel victims.
U.S. ruling elites are on the side of the terrorists against the American people.
The TRAITORS HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS.