This could be an attempt to “strike terror into the enemies of Allah.” “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into the enemies of Allah and your enemies, and others besides, whom you may not know, but whom Allah knows.” — Qur’an 8:60
On the other hand, what exactly would make this number implausible?
“Isis: French suicide attackers ‘ready to strike’ France,” ANSAmed, June 18, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
(ANSAmed) – PARIS, JUNE 18 – France’s intelligence fears new attacks in the country carried out by French suicide bombers, Le Figaro reports, quoting an investigation by national authorities. According to the probe, ”1,730 potential jihadists (are) ready to strike” while keeping in detention French nationals who have returned from fighting a ”holy war” appears increasingly difficult.
Meanwhile, according to Le Parisien, two men were apprehended yesterday and the day before yesterday in a Parisian banlieu as part of investigations on the attacks on Charlie Hebdo and the Hyper Cacher. (ANSAMed)
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Gee, I wonder if Le Monde or Le Monde or Liberation will respond to this news by publishing major pieces reviewing the policy from two or three decades ago where “Iraq Jacques” cooked up the EAD and started the ball rolling. Downhill.
Whatever happened to follow up? It seems to me the news entertainment elites who rule us are able to do so by never looking back. They’re way too easy on themselves.
duh_swami says
I wonder where they got that 1730 number…How do they know it’s not 1729, or 1731, or 17,000? If it’s only 1730, a whole lot of Mahoundians are not following directions. Allah expects a better showing than that…
mortimer says
Dear Ol’ Swami,
The figure French intel supplies of 1,730 is about twice what I would predict. They may be right, but that would mean France has TWICE the jihad problem of other countries. That also may be correct. In most Western countries, the number of jihadists is about one out 7,000 Muslims. France has less than 5M Muslims. 15% of Muslims generally support terrorist groups. Of this terror-supporting subgroup of Muslims, one out of a thousand is willing jihadist. For France, the number of actual jihadists I predict would be about 800.
If France has 1,730 jihadists, something is causing the inflated number. They need quickly to find out what that cause is and neutralize it. Muslims in general need to be deprogrammed. There is no room in the modern world for this dangerous Death Cult.
duh_swami says
All pious Mahoundians are obligated to jihad as a duty to Allah, it’s not an elective….I don’t believe that 15% number you keep citing…
Agent of Liberty says
Don’t you get Mortimer. Muslims can’t be deprogrammed!
cranky.white.woman@gmail.com says
I think 1,730 is a conservative estimate. They’re low-balling it so they don’t panic the natives, who might — just might — decide to channel the spirit of their ancestors, who won a very bloody revolution, if they knew the truth of what’s happening to their beautiful country. But instead, they are channelling the spirit of their ancestors who stepped aside as German tanks rolled in.
Georg says
I’ve seen figures several times of French intelligence mentioning between 3,000-5,000 potential jihadists/jihadists-sympathizers being monitored. Mind you, the Douchi brothers of the Hebdo attacks had been monitored, but were not at the time as they were deemed to be of less interest than those being monitored… Comforting, eh?
But Nigel Farage’s characterization of a “5th column” in Britain is commonly attacked by the neolibs as ludicrous.
Michael Copeland says
“There’s nothing wrong with having our own police force. … It is a fifth column and we will rise up one day and implement the Sharia.”
Anjem Choudary
http://blog.newhumanist.org.uk/2011/08/anjem-choudary-exploits-norwegian.html
see http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5741-definitely-a-danger-to-western-democracy
particolor says
A lot of the Gutless Goats chickened out when the heard that 170,000 French Soldiers were ready to Strike back at them ! 🙂
Betty says
cranky. what ever numbers the put out there just double it at least.
Richie says
The question is when the Muslims start to kill civilized people, wll the police protect the French citizens, or the Muslim aggressors?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
My prediction is that the police will be heavily constrained and forced to muddle, equivocate, dissemble, blame lay, accuse the non-elites (the serfs) of Islamophobia, and tell the occasional lie. What other choice is there?
RonaldB says
“The question is when the Muslims start to kill civilized people,…”
The question was kind of answered during the civil wars in Yugoslavia in the 1990s. What happened is that wars are messy, and the Serbs were fighting against the Bosnian and Kosovo Muslims as well as the Croats. In a war, you kill the opposing soldiers, and that is what the Serbs did. The Western media played into the claims that the Serbs massacred and starved civilians, enabling the US and NATO to bomb the Serbs into submission.
So, the answer to the question is, during a Muslim uprising, the biggest danger is from the supposed non-Muslim allies. The fascist European Union is on the road to organizing its own military, independent of any country, and it’s almost a sure bet that the EU military will be sent to fight any successful non-Muslim military or police action against violent Muslims.
Angemon says
1730 potential suicide bombers that they know off… Doesn’t mean that’s all of them…
Godless says
Uh……DUH!!!!! I would say “stating the obvious” but your comment is more obvious than what people are usually responding to when using that phrase.
Don McKellar says
CORRECTION, FRENCH INTEL:
1,730 Jihadis ready to strike and murder at any moment.
1,730,000 Moslem silent partners ready to turn a blind eye and give them a helping hand.
After all, the Jihadis are the most devout of moslems, following their holy books as strictly as possible. And their fellow moslems are compelled to follow the word of Allah and the example of Mohammad — which is all these Jihadis are doing.
mortimer says
15% of Muslims in most countries self-identify as supporters of jihad organizations. This gives a number closer to ‘only’ 800,000 jihad sympathizers in France. 800 would normally be actual jihadists.
The number 1,730, if correct, means that Muslims in France are furious about France’s radical secularism, the veil ban, etc. Those Muslims don’t want liberty, equality or fraternity. They want enslavement to Sharia, supremacism, misogyny and religious apartheid.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
15% of Muslims in most countries self-identify as supporters of jihad organizations.
I just don’t buy that number. Your average Moslem has various reasons to not be, ahem, forthcoming in such interviews. My rough estimate is that the rate of tacit support is somewhere in the range of 100%. Roughly speaking. Ballpark.
Did you know that Osama (not Obama) bin-Laden the year of his unfortunate passing was in the top five in all the polls done by Gallup in Dar al-Islam countries?
Georg says
I know Muslims who aren’t even Muslims (have become secular) who still bend over backwards making excuses for beheadings of aid workers. Trust me, we are in DEEP.
abad says
France really screwed up in allowing Muslims onto their turf. Well Muslims make lousy representatives of French culture and at best, do not belong there at all.
Gail Griffin says
I hope they do and France will have to do something,,,or not.
Matthieu Baudin says
Thoroughly fanaticised millenarian groups reserve their greatest hatred for ‘splitters’. Don’t be surprised if ISIS soon focuses their rage against Shia muslims in Europe.
Michael Copeland says
Remember that there are 7,000 armed troops in French streets. That is the new normal.
“The Canary Has Died”, by John Moloney
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6786-the-canary-has-died
John Alexander says
This was a very popular link so I’ll put it up again.
It’s about why tour leaders can’t bring themselves to do the obvious and popular thing of facing down Islamism. It’s at: http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2015/06/true-believer.html
RonaldB says
I think the accompanying video is the most powerful part of the piece. The piece itself is the usual horror at the prospect of Cameron, as a politician, completely deaf to the real wishes of his constituency.
But, the video illustrates graphically the knife’s edge that Britain is on, with its large and growing population of militant, barely-controlled, committed Muslims who are bursting with hatred for their host society.
The real wonder is why, in a supposedly democratic or representative government, the wishes of the people count for nothing. There’s some mechanism we’re not catching. The British parliamentary system always had ways around the popular wishes, such as pocket boroughs, but there was a balance. Now, it seems, public opinion counts for almost nothing.
Is it the presence of foreign money, the invulnerability of the civil service, the complex election rules, the strongly-subsidized influence of the BBC? It’s important to know how representative government can be co-opted and bypassed.
The same question is important in the US. The government is hiding the very large surge in immigration that it is sponsoring: Syrian Muslims, Latin American parent-less “children”, Thai Muslims, sub-Saharans…all immigrants likely to seriously stress our cultural norms, social services, and physical safety. And most of the Republican presidential candidates favor large-scale immigration to the US, particularly Jeb Bush. They just oppose illegal immigration, which is not nearly the whole problem.
Betty says
well any one with a ounce of common sense would know you let them go but you don’t let them come back. but all governments are so stupid. ISIS IS WAGING WAR AND THE PEOPLE THAT GO AND JOIN SHOULD HAVE TO STAY GONE NEVER TO RETURN TO SAID COUNTRY. sorry mom’s and dad’s this is the point you pack up and go with your children.
Charli Main says
Given that these ” holy” warriors are so into head chopping for Allah, they should be introduced to Madame Guillotine —-toute suite.
Agent of Liberty says
Unfortunately French people are going to die. ISIS is just waiting for their orders to attack all at once. Mayhem will ensue. I have no sympathy for this weak French government. They will be responsible for more innocent french citizens. The only way out is complete banning of Islam.