I just received this magnanimous message of love from one of our moral superiors:
Your Name: Tawfiq
Email: shahada@yopmail.com
Message: Robert, believe me, one day I’ll shit on ya grave. How many children do ya have, mine are 12. In two generations we will rule this country.Message was sent from: Jammu & Kashmir: Islamic State, Pakistan flags raised after Friday prayers
Senders IP address: 95.43.65.103
Stanton Cordray says
Oh dear. I hope he’s wrong.
katherine says
He’s probably right, seeing how western governments are giving in to sharia laws regarding polygamy.
Muslims in Europe are allowed to breed like rodents while the EU working population pays heavy taxes and forgoes many essential programs to support their Muslim, mostly unemployed leeches.
These Theofascists then claim social services to feed their huge families and the balance goes for further Jihad. The scam is so obvious but western governments have become totally stupid.
EYESOPEN says
It is also happening right here, right now, thanks to the “refugee re-settlement” wh0res who are being paid by the head – with U.S. taxpayers’ money!!! – to import the problem to a city near you!
See Ann Corcoran’s http://www.refugeeresettlementwatch.com for all of the ugly details.
EYESOPEN says
Sorry. Ann Corcoran’s website is https://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com
Know Thy Enemy says
Chances are that he is telling the truth. Many years ago a [Muslim] cab driver told me he had 11 children. Another Muslim I personally knew had 5 children and his wife was pregnant with the sixth one. And of course the Muzzies were all receiving benefits from the state!
But the Muzzie kids are not the problem. They can all be convinced that Islam is false and that Mo was a fraud! It is the apathy and cowardice of non-Muslims that is *the most serious* problem that we are currently facing! We need to figure out a way to make everyone feel that it is cool to oppose Islam and to be brave!
Phil says
Actually the Muslim birth rate is highly variable between countries. Look at the article in the International by Austin Ruse dated July 5th , 2012 where he quotes Eberstadt and Shah who had just concluded a survey of population growth in Muslim countries. Their conclusion was “Fertility rates of Muslim populations around the world have almost literally fallen off a cliff, so steep has been their decline”. Iran’s population growth rate has collapsed so completely they are finished demographically as a regional power after the late 2030’s. Turkey, Morocco and Tunisia are following suit. Rather wonderfully, the majority of military age males in Turkey by 2040 will be Kurds, as the ethnic Turks are failing to reproduce successfully.As for the others – Iraq and Syria are both suffering significant population loss, the Gulf states are negligible population-wise and Egypt, the most populous Arab nation, is beginning the inevitable demographic transition – albeit too late to save a population that cannot even come close to feeding itself. That leaves Pakistan and Bangladesh – where populations are increasing, but nowhere near the growth rates of the halcyon days of a few decades ago – and Indonesia where population control is becoming an urgent problem) living as they are on an archipelago). The only substantial growth sites are sub-Saharan Africa – where Muslim growth rates are matched by Christians – and (relative to the infertile Europeans) Europe itself (and the birth rate of successive Muslim generations in Europe is declining – a significant driver of muslim numbers is immigration). David Goldman made all these points some years ago [David P Goldman: How Civilizations Die: (And Why Islam Is Dying Too) published 2011] – the Dar al-Islam is not in a healthy vigorous state at all.
This is not necessarily the good news it seems on first glance. Unfortunately, historically, demographically challenged imperialists are often the deadliest. If we stopped supporting the drivers of Muslim expansion by capping Muslim migration to the West, stopped feeding the obscene wealth of the Oil sheikdoms, blocked Iran’s grab for nuclear power and stopped funding the zamindari stratokleptocracy of Pakistan the Dar al-Islam would fall on its blood-soaked knees….but I’d be a billionaire – if only I had a billion dollars.
Gary says
Dear Jammu & Kashmir,
Apparently you didn’t get the directive from God?
“But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.” (Galatians 5:22-26)
somehistory says
Or what Jesus Christ said, “The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks (Luke 6:45).”.
They can’t speak good things because their heart is evil and full of evil that pours forth from their mouth. And they act on the evil that fills their heart.
Gary says
Aaaaaa. Not to worry…..
Muslims are so convinced they’re right, they’lll stand before God some day and contend their….
“struggle”
“Who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed?
He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground.
He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him,
nothing in his appearance that we should desire him.
He was despised and rejected by mankind,
a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
Like one from whom people hide their faces
he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.
Surely he took up our pain and bore our suffering,
yet we considered him punished by God,
stricken by him, and afflicted.
But he was pierced for our transgressions,
he was crushed for our iniquities;
the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
and by his wounds we are healed.
We all, like sheep, have gone astray,
each of us has turned to our own way;
and the LORD has laid on him
the iniquity of us all.
He was oppressed and afflicted,
yet he did not open his mouth;
he was led like a lamb to the slaughter,
and as a sheep before its shearers is silent,
so he did not open his mouth.
By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
Yet who of his generation protested?
For he was cut off from the land of the living;
for the transgression of my people he was punished.
He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
and with the rich in his death,
though he had done no violence,
nor was any deceit in his mouth.
Yet it was the LORD’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
and though the LORD makes his life an offering for sin,
he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
and the will of the LORD will prosper in his hand.
After he has suffered, he will see the light of life and be satisfied;
by his knowledge my righteous servant will justify many,
and he will bear their iniquities.
Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors.”
(Isaiah 53)
Gary says
……and how will they explain away Isaiah 53?
somehistory says
A wonderfully grand book is the book of Isaiah, so full it is of prophecy and declarations about our Creator and His Messiah, sent forth for mankind.
For those who choose the fake god, the one behind islam, there can be no “explanation” when they stand on what they have done, what is in their hearts, the worship and devotion they gave satan.
Guy Macher says
This Muslim barrow bloviator is located in Sophia, Bulgaria. He’s welcome to take over that place.
Know Thy Enemy says
I would not wish Islam even on my enemies. Heck, I do not wish it even on Muslims!
Peter Buckley says
Sarcasm makes them angry. So keep up the sarcasm.
Never get angry with them. It gives them hope.They might think they are “getting to you”.
In the end. They will lose. They are losing already. They know it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGCN3lliwQs
Gary says
You may rule this country, but are you being penny wise and dollar foolish?
“The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.” (Galatians 5:19-21)
Fatts says
He has a point with regards to demographics. This is why there will have to be warfare on the continent of Europe, certainly Western Europe.
The native peoples will have to apply addition by subtraction. As of now, most of the natives are complacent with no intent of waging a war in their own countries. Who can blame them? It is an unpleasant undertaking. Nevertheless, the jihadists, themselves, will probably provide the catalyst.
Kevin says
The trace returns a Bulgarian location.
Fine fellow.
According to wiki, the Muslim proportion of the Bulgarian population has declined, as has the Christian.
2001 [20] 2011 [2][21]
Orthodox Christian 82.6% 59.4%
Muslim 12.2% 7.8% (7.4 % Sunni; 0.4 % Shia)
Catholic 0.6% 0.7%
Protestant 0.5% 0.9%
Other 0.2% 0.15%
None 3.9% 9.3%
No response – 21.8 %
Wellington says
A blacker, more nefarious force over such an extended period of time has never existed than has Islam. It is the longest-lived and best disguised form of evil ever devised by man. Bar none. Should it someday dominate the earth then it would be better if the earth were no more, so disgusting is Islam, Mohammed, Sharia, the Koran and Allah.
But I highly doubt Islam will prevail. In fact, I believe it to be in its last great gasp as the world at large finally scrutinizes this wicked, repressive belief system as Islam has never been scrutinized before. It is my conviction that Islam will not be able to withstand this scrutiny. Already far more people worldwide have a negative view of Islam than was the case just twenty-five years ago. This percentage of people will never go down, only continually up. Long term, Islam is finished. Will take some though and Islam certainly will not go quietly. Still much travail ahead. But I have a dream that eventually Islam will be put on the trash heap of history, where it so deserves to be.
Mitch says
Your posts are always worth reading, Wellington. Thank you.
Angemon says
Before or after suicide bombing runs?
Wellington says
That was a good (and accurate) one, Angemon.
Westman says
There are seditious people here because Islam has failed in their native Islam-dominated countries. They will not ever rule America, a country founded on personal freedom. They fail to understand that freedom is more motivating than Islam(submission) and when faced with no choice this nation has set about annihilating, think wholesale bombing of civilians, societies in WWII.
Be warned, there will be no forceful takeover of America by any group. Even of your 12 children, if in America, many of them will be closet Americans and will not do what daddy-terrorist wishes.
TediNeo98 says
In line with what Guy posted earlier, this twat is in Bulgaria: the IP address coordinates are: 42.6977, 23.3219
Sadly for us, he is part of the European muslim problem – I believe around 45 million already…
Caroline says
Islam is a curse upon the world.
Wellington says
No truer words, Caroline, could be written than those you wrote. Islam is the curse of curses. It is a spiritual cancer, a prescription for the closing of the mind and an inveterate enemy of liberty. There is nothing good in it which can’t be found elsewhere and yet there is much bad in it which is hard to find anywhere else.
DanS. says
They WILL be cab drivers. Avoid them.
duh_swami says
Islam will die before 2 generations…All fake religions eventually die of the same condition, that of being ‘found out’…then disinterest sets in.
DP111 says
Islam’s main claim is that allah will grant them complete victory. If for some reason we get into a total war with Islam, then Islam will be defeated totally. It is then that Muslims will see that Islam is the “weaker horse”, and quit it in droves for the “stronger horse”. Another reason is that the defeated will have to leave the West, and make their way to a devastated dar al islam. They will convert quick when such an option is put to the defeated. Re-call events after the Reconquista.
So far, Idslam has been getting away with murder, as the West is in appeasement mode. But sooner or later will come a Churchill, then there will be game change.
particolor says
Modern day Wars in the Middle East are a Planned STAGE ACT !! To create Millions of so called Refugees and the West Fell For It !! 🙁 🙁
No Fear says
36% of child genetic defects in the UK come from 3% of the population (muslims).
This is due to them following the “excellent example” of Mohammed and marrying their cousins.
Obviously the Quran was wrong suggesting that Mohammed is an excellent example.
And if that is so then Allah is a fiction.
But we infidels knew that already.
Papa Whiskey says
Keyboard commandos from the Turd World are not to be feared. What is to be feared is the State Department / Justice Department / liberal church / Democrat Party immigration machine and the demographic re-engineering project in which it is engaged.
EYESOPEN says
Right on Papa Whiskey!
reyol says
I’ll bet those twelve children were borne by his first cousin and are highly deficient in intelligence. Robert has intellectual children and his books will be read long after he is dead.
Grumpyoldguy says
Like mold and mildew, Islam cannot survive in the light. People like you, Robert, who drag Islam into the public discussion are that light. Keep on shining!
abad says
In two generations, Islam will be banished from earth forever.
Hopefully.
Kufar Jihadi says
Actually, it won’t take two generations for Islam to prevail.
Their rate of population growth and the corresponding infertility of infidels, coupled with dhimmi-like responses from our leadership will allow practical conquest of Dar al Harb very quickly.
The only people I can see who have the cojones and resources to stand up to Islam are the ChiComms. Wouldn’t it be a hoot if what will pass for freedom sixty or so years from now will be the result of China’s resisting Islamic hegemony?
gravenimage says
Actually, China has not exactly been robust in facing up to its own Jihad threat from the Muslim Uigers. I’m not at all sure we can count on them.
Kufar Jihadi says
I’m sure you’re right, but suspect that the Party will wake up to any threat to its power sooner than our leadership will awaken to a civilization threat. And there ARE billions of Chinese, so at least numbers are their side.
pongidae rex says
Anyone who has 12 children is on some form of state funded financial assistance. Probably a lot of it.
Renee says
Big deal, ruling a country, when you cannot even rule over your own emotions like anger and hate.
gravenimage says
Robert, believe me, one day I’ll shit on ya grave…
……………………………
More well-wishes from the “religion of peace”…
Of course, if this thug *is* writing from Bulgaria, the irony of crowing that Muslims will soon take over the US when Bulgarians took back their land from Muslim conquest rather undercuts his claims. Wotta maroon!
peter1589 says
Well, what do you expect after 54 million abortions and billions more via birth control? You think God’s going to put up with carnage like that? Read Isaiah 10:
saias Chapter 10
Woe to the makers of wicked laws. The Assyrian shall be a rod for punishing Israel: but for their pride they shall be destroyed: and a remnant of Israel saved.
10:1. Woe to them that make wicked laws: and when they write, write injustice:
10:2. To oppress the poor in judgment, and do violence to the cause of the humble of my people: that widows might be their prey, and that they might rob the fatherless.
10:3. What will you do in the day of visitation, and of the calamity which cometh from afar? to whom will ye flee for help? and where will ye leave your glory?
10:4. That you be not bowed down under the bond, and fall with the slain? In all these things his anger is not turned away, but his hand is stretched out still.
10:5. Woe to the Assyrian, he is the rod and the staff of my anger, and my indignation is in their hands.
10:6. I will send him to a deceitful nation, and I will give him a charge against the people of my wrath, to take away the spoils, and to lay hold on the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets.
10:7. But he shall not take it so, and his heart shall not think so: but his heart shall be set to destroy, and to cut off nations not a few.
Nations not a few? How about all of Europe, North America and Australia? That’s quite a few nations, right? And where do we see Islam invading? Yup, you got it!
Too bad the PROTESTant revolt has subdivided, dissipated and diluted theology into person whims and appetites being justified by extracting verses to suit them. Hard being Pope and Magisterium yourselves, isn’t it? Well, as Islam starts to slit our throats, remember that it was the Catholic Church which held them back at the Gates of Vienna, the naval battle of Lepanto and La Reconquista of El Cid, King Philip and Queen Isabella.
Where will we find a unified purpose against Islam today, where personal freedom and gluttony, sexual license, murder of the unborn and secular dismissal of the Catholic Church as a mere nest of pedophiles is preeminently in your minds?
Pray the Rosary for peace. Or take the consequences.
particolor says
Hmm ! I think Your Right !
gravenimage says
The idea that Islam was not a danger until abortion became legal in the West is simply inaccurate.
Wakeup says
A few thoughts on themes in this stream firstly the jizya is a parasitic behavior weather directly or by exploitation of the welfare state Cameron is in the process of winding it back.
People should have jobs and it is the duty of the state to look after its citizens by providing them with one so you get a job picking up litter in minimum wage etc but you have to do something for society. If you don’t like the job then you find a better one for yourself and already being in work will have a better chance of getting one.
I have said this before the power base of islam is men we have to reduce their power whilst empowering the women so if you HAVE to employ a muslim then employ a woman.
The issue of polygamy is a red herring it will happen weather we recognize it or not this is going to create a hoo haa but Christianity never banned polygamy monogamy just became a custom. There is a supreme court judgement effectively legalizing it for mormons. Kenya has legalized polygamy recently and consequently the men are legally obliged to support their offspring and wives not welfare.
Lastly we have to identify and boycott muslin businesses or those that support muslims or muslim causes, I see that the profits of morrissons are mysteriously down so lets bankrupt them. Walmart behaved in a very Christian way by letting people park their mobile homes in their car parks during the recession, God bless you Walmart support them. Watch stargate and see how the show pans out it is basically all about islam.
Here is my suggestion for a business the ‘Jesus our Lord and Savior Taxi Service’ 10 % of our profits support church building maintenance whatever. Get the wagons in a circle people our governments wont do it.
gravenimage says
Wakeup wrote:
The issue of polygamy is a red herring it will happen weather we recognize it or not this is going to create a hoo haa but Christianity never banned polygamy monogamy just became a custom. There is a supreme court judgement effectively legalizing it for mormons.
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This is simply inaccurate. Instead, the Mormon Church banned polygamy in the late 1800s. Today, it is only splinter sects that practice polygamy; not the mainstream Mormon Church.
The recent “sister wives” case *decriminalized* polygamy.
It is *still against the law* to marry more than one person—it is bigamy.
The idea that polygamy is a part of mainstream Christianity is simply untrue.
It is difficult to know why Wakeup is defending this foul practice, if he is supposed to oppose the threat of Islam.
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shahada@yopmail.com he hides, he must be gay,
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Cindy says
You don’t decide who runs this nation!!!!!! Jesus Christ does and I think He will come and get His people first. Then all those left might just be getting what they want. A nation without God.
Richie says
I have faith, but the US is not a theocracy. What to live in a theocracy? Then move to an Islamic hellhole.
Praying is not going to save the west from the Islamic hoards, it requires actual action. I’m sure every Christian who was recently burned and decapitated by Muslims prayed to Jesus- did he come to rescue them in this life? Afraid not..
duh_swami says
When Islam is finally defeated and driven back into its cage…It will not be ‘God’ that does it…You folks who just can’t help posting reams of scripture are wasting anti-jihad space…
Mike says
The muzzie birth rate is dropping everywhere so these effers are lying as usual. We will always have more bullets than they have kids.
quotha raven says
“The muzzie birth rate is dropping everywhere…”
Mike – What is your source for this surprising statement? My sources reflect a rapidly growing Muslim population everywhere they are procreating. Please provide some support for your dubious claim. Spreading disinformation is of no help to anyone.
Cheers! quotha r
gravenimage says
Mike is right, Quotha:
“Muslim Fertility Rates Dropping Faster than Western Fertility Rates”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/muslim-fertility-rates-dropping-faster-than-western-fertility-rates/
There’s a caveat, though, as you might imagine. Muslim birth rates have been *so much* higher than Western rates that even with the drop off they are currently significantly out-breeding us—and are increasingly doing that in the West.
This is important for two reasons: one, simply that they are here; and secondly, that Muslims with their inbreeding and poor pre-natal habits have high infant mortality which is largely off-set by advanced Western medicine. In other words, it is not just their breeding rate, but their increased survival rate in the free West.
We are paying, often exorbitantly, to ensure that enemy Muslims survive.
So, there are several factors here—will Muslim birth rates continue to drop? If so, will they drop *fast enough* so that they won’t out breed us?
Another factor, of course, is that it is not just a matter of Muslim breeding, but of Muslim immigration—right now, for instance, boatloads of Muslims are *flooding* into Europe, and Obama has called for a huge influx of mostly Muslim immigrants from the Syrian Jihad zone.
This may well prove more decisive than Muslim breeding rates.
Still, the dropping Muslim birth rate is a tiny glimmer of light in an otherwise very grim situation.
quotha raven says
Gravenimage – Thank you for clarifying, and my apologies to Mike for suggesting he was spreading disinformation. I was wrong, but my heart was in the right place))) My info comes mostly from a terrifying little skinny book by Mark Steyn that addresses current and projected global demographics. The utterly rational, logical picture he presents is grim indeed. And, to mix my metaphors, right around the corner, too! I believe that book by Steyn is “America Alone”, and it is an easy read. I couldn’t put it down.”Like new”paperback from Amazon should run you about a buck plus shipping.
Again I’m flooded with a vision of “The Sorcerer’s Apprentice” where all those guys with brooms multiply exponentially))) Every time you eliminate one, he’s replaced by two! And so on. Obama’s huge influx is going to breed like rabbits, too. I can’t believe he’s getting this done; it is so against the will of the people, so utterly negative and destructive
Cheers…I guess…quotha.
Ayatrollah says
They don’t need a majority to make the world miserable
Richie says
I have noticed that vulgarity and a total lack of manners is very common with Muslims- or course this is from their supremacist ideology, they think we are inferior and not deserving of respect
The sad reality though is that in regards to the UK and Europe, at the way things are going the Muslim barbarian is correct- in 2 generations they will be in charge-that is if things don’t change and the leftist socialists remain in power. Muslims have no real sway in the IS, Canada or Australia, so I believe our nations will remain civilized when Europe morphs into an Islamic hellhole
Richie says
Typo, sorry. Muslims have no real sway in the US, Canada or Australia, so they will never take over these countries. I’m sure they will continue to kill and blow people up, but we will never see a day when citizens in the US, Canada and Australia are as a whole forced by our governments to bow to Mecca and pray and pray to the pedophile false prophet of Islam. . I do think though that day is coming for Europe
LilithWept says
You are so wrong. Orgainzations like CAIR are planning for the future, not tomorrow or next week but 10-20 and more years innthe future. Backed by Oil moneybthey sue non muslims using ” lawfare” to either break you or your company, make you miserable and bankrupt you or they win the judgment againstbyou and there is now a precedent for those circumstances, and case by casem all over the US, every day these precedents add up so when a muslim goes to court against a non muslim they can say ” but yourhonor, there is a precedent for finding for y client in the case muslim verses Stupid dhimmke 2015 ” and thirdly, muslims get us to make small consessions, give them special,preferential treatment in small things, they are training us. We give in on so many small things that when they demand larger consessions it seems like a naturan progression and we dont fight or fuss about it as much since we ahave a history of giving in to them on so many other things. We are importing muslims and their birthrate is 7 times that of non muslims…..they depend on breeding their way to a majority!
Go and Google what happens inside a country as the muslim population increases. And look at what is happening in European countries where the muslim population is higher than it is in the US and Canada, but mot nearly a majority, just 10-15 % and look at what is happening…..Rape, crimes of violence, murders , and all muslims against non muslim. Intimidations and threats is how Islam works!!! There are riots with threats is the goverment doesnt impliment sharia, there are sharia courts and muslims are running for election, winning and then they begin to change the laws in favor of Islam……..no muslim’s first loyalty is to the country where he holds citizenship…it is always first to Allah, Mohammed and then to the islamic clerics , Islam and the Ummah …..Islam needs to be banned in all western countries as a socio political system ,whose texts obligate its followers to overthrow any non muslim country, Islam, the Koran and ahadiths are seditious and treasonous and should be bean ed as a clear and present danger to the US constitution, the Bill,of Rights and the American goverment. ………if we do not do something like this, drastic as it sounds, in less than 100 years, America will be a muslim majority country and that means an Islamic country under sharia or some varient of it.
Richie says
You make very sound points, I hate to admit it but I think you are 100% correct, I stand corrected. The question then might not be if but rather of when before the US, Canada and Australia is broken by Islam. I have a hunch the Aussies may be the last man standing
abad says
This is why our next President will HAVE to disband CAIR and declare them a terrorist organization – which is what they are, anyways.
quotha raven says
Lilith – Thank you for taking the trouble to write this. You are absolutely correct. Cheers! quotha
Celtic says
Don’t worry, they will lose. Islam will not conquer the world through their backward violence and spreading of fear, Islam is already collapsing from the inside. The age of information will end Islam sooner or later. Also, as soon as oil becomes meaningless – meaning, as soon as oil is replaced by a superior technology, the entire muslim world will be thrown into poverty. And jihad wars will then be the only thing they’ll be able to think of in order to increase their wealth again. They’re totally backward and technologically they’re not advanced at all. Even the tales of the advanced arabs in the middle ages is a lie. All of the knowledge they had was stolen from countries they conquered such as Syria, egypt, Persia of course as well as the Byzantine Empire. The original Muslims were illiterate, primitive and violent – and indeed it is no coincidence that those attributes are still very common in the Muslim world compared to all other religions and cultures.
In order to defeat Islam one only needs to understand it’s weakness, which is that it only managed to survive due to ignorane of the Muslim population as well as the grave penalties for Apostasy as well as – and here it comes: The culture in which the belief in hell is very much at the core – Islam is based on fear, that’s what is at the real core of the faith.
So in order to defeat Islam we need to do the following:
1. Stop hating Muslims – they were born into this culture – let’s not forget they’re the ancestors of people who suffered gravely under the rule of Islam
2. Attack the ideology – make Muslims doubt their religion by asking questions – for instance about the moral standard of the Prophet – at best have them agree first, that things such as plundering, beheading people etc. is immoral and evil – and then show them the references within the Hadith etc. which confirm, that Mohammed did all of these things.
3. Point their attention to the fact that the Quran is full of contradictions. One does not need to look far – all except one Surah starts with Bismillah al rahman al-rahim, meaning in the name of “God” the beneficient, the merciful – and soon afterwards you’ll find the usual and constant threats of hellfire, the calls for violence etc. Note that the mere idea of hellfire makes it clear, that this “God” cannot be merciful – also point out, that no human being could possibly deserve being tortured forever – also note, that humans usually use punishment in order to teach lessons so (for instance a child) will act different and eventually become a better human being – even Sharia law has the principle at the core, that the cruel punishment will keep the sinner (for instance the thief) from committing further sins – they believe that in the end it is better for the sinner to suffer grave penalty in this life -he will eventually not end up in hell. So even Sharia law is more humane than the hellfire-concept.
4. Remember – do not make jokes or fun of them, nor make fun of Mohammed or Allah – because if you choose to do this, this will close them and you will hardly be able to make them change their mind. You can also challenge them to make you see that Islam is the truth – and promise to convert if they succeed – if they fail because you can make them see that the God of Islam and the Prophet of Islam are immoral figures, then this is worth much more than just calling them names.
TediNeo98 says
Richie, take a look at Lebanon’s history – that’ what happened in a few generations…muslim birth rates are staggering, no matter where they are. My muslim neighbour has 8 children. 2 muslim women on the news earlier had 12 between them – fortunately they went off to Syria.
The UK muslim population has doubled in the last 10 years.
Richie says
Leftists have called for Muslims to be ‘given’ Detroit as a way to revitalize that economically devastated area- it seems that large pockets of Muslims are being seeded around the country, maybe its all part of some larger nefarious plan for Muslims to destroy the US from within, like interjecting cancer cells into a healthy body
quotha raven says
‘… it seems that large pockets of Muslims are being seeded around the country,…’
Ritchie – In 1997 I made a trip from NYC to Newington, NH, a small, former mill town that appeared to be struggling or dying, as so many towns with closed paper mills are. I was talking with some local blue collar guys at a bar one evening, and they were all complaining bitterly about a large influx of Somalians dumped – er – located into their midst, with government monthly paychecks and relocation money, Section 8 housing and a promise that if they stayed 6 years, they could become US citizens. I don’t recall precisely whether it was that they could apply for citizenship or they were automatically granted it.They also said that these Somalians got a big income tax break; I don’t remember the details. But these guys said their imported neighbors, who had been there only about two years in 1997,had started gangs and underbid local labor and contributed drastically to violent crime and polluted the schools and medical facilities and hogged up welfare. Local drug use and ancillary culture burgeoned. This was nearly twenty years ago, Ritchie, and it was happening BIG TIME in Portland, Maine, which I know firsthand. as well. And all over the place! I believe Ted Kennedy got immigration legislation passed that strongly favored third world immigrants to those of European or caucasian immigrants. So what you are observing is nothing new; it’s just been going on under the radar.
Cheers! quotha
gravenimage says
Richie wrote:
Leftists have called for Muslims to be ‘given’ Detroit as a way to revitalize that economically devastated area
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I have to admit, I was beyond skeptical reading this—I thought, even Leftists aren’t that insane. Well, I was wrong:
“Let Syrians Settle Detroit”
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/15/opinion/let-syrians-settle-detroit.html?_r=0
“Detroit, a once great city, has become an urban vacuum. Its population has fallen to around 700,000 from nearly 1.9 million in 1950. The city is estimated to have more than 70,000 abandoned buildings and 90,000 vacant lots. Meanwhile, desperate Syrians, victims of an unfathomable civil, are fleeing to neighboring countries…”
There seems to be *no* idea that these fine Mahoundians might bring their violence here.
Even more insanely, the editorial adds, “Syrian refugees would be an ideal community to realize this goal, as Arab-Americans are already a vibrant and successful presence in the Detroit metropolitan area”.
By that they mean Dearborn. Has no one looked at Dearborn lately? It is crime-ridden and rife with attacks on police and on Christians and other Infidels. Do we really want one of America’s largest cities to look like this?
Front Page Magazine shows what madness this is:
“New York Times Wants to Fix Detroit with a Muslim Civil War”
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/new-york-times-wants-to-fix-detroit-with-a-muslim-civil-war/
Richie says
I wonder if anyone seriously thinks Muslims will revitalize the industry in Detroit. Islamic society does not create, instead, it destroys- and wherever Muslims go, the first thing they do is sign up for a fat government welfare check. A Muslim Detroit will guarantee it will never stand on its own feet, but will always be at the government teet for welfare funding
Shapleigh says
Yes, I see even where I live in Mass that the Muslims come here, get section 8 housing, and breed like crazy. However, if one wants to talk numbers the stats point to other ethnic population growth as well. Asians and Latin Americans probably account for a much larger growth in population than people of the ethnic origins who follow the Muslim faith. Furthermore, Asians and Latin Americans are more likely to inter marry with other ethnic groups. And I believe that a majority of Muslims don’t want to live in a Sharia hell hole. So his threats to Robert, I believe, are wishful thinking.
gravenimage says
I believe that a majority of Muslims don’t want to live in a Sharia hell hole.
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Eighty percent of Muslim in the US believe that Muslim-majority nations should have Shari’ah law. Not exactly a “tiny minority of extremists”.
Shapleigh says
This is the first story I could find, from Front Page, that addresses the percentages of Muslims who want blasphemy laws enforced in the U.S.. I’m not doubting your 80%, just trying to find some figures.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/2012/dgreenfield/40-percent-of-us-muslim-voters-want-islamic-law-12-percent-want-death-for-blasphemers/
Richie says
My friend from MA told me the Pittshield and Springfield MA area has been flooded with Somali Muslims, and no shock, with them came poverty and crime
Shapleigh says
Springfield is already a crime ridden hell hole. The Mayor complained about a year ago about all of the Somali Refugees coming in who were straining the already over stressed system. Some Somalis were interviewed and they all said that they had come to the U.S. to work hard. I don’t doubt that , but the problem is that the parents all have like 10 kids when they come out of refugee camps, so they automatically qualify for full welfare benefits. It’s a mess.
Richie says
Former MA governor Deval Patrick seemed like an Obama clone in his far left politics.
Most of these Somali Muslims are unskilled and uneducated, and will never integrate with American society and will not apply for work- instead, they will live ion the dole. In addition to a rising crime rate, their very presence will wreck property values. Here is a novel idea- rather than dumping huge numbers of unskilled Muslims into this country, lets let in immigrants on a case by case basis who are skilled and wont be a drain on society
Jeze says
I doubt very much if this is true. American population is 325 000 000 (million). Of which the Muslim population is about 2 595 000. Even if every Muslim has 12 kids, that would merely be 31million.
TediNeo98 says
Merely 31 000 000 – if you take 10% of that figure; that’s an awful lot of pious muslim psychopaths who are prepared to blow things up….and the tricky part is when I look at muslims in my neighbourhood, I don’t know who is pious and who is moderate and who the next suicide bomber is going to be and what he is going to try and target.
Reminds me of the Boer War, where the Boers used “hit and run” tactics against the English with great success. They new they didn’t have the numbers or the ammo to beat the English in an all out war.
I think that muslims work in much the same way, the big difference is that they are prepared to blow themselves up in the process.
bullfrogger says
A rat explaining how rats breed . Time to call the exterminator .
Hangman says
to all muslims who think they will rule this country,all i can say is,we will be happy to fill the depths of hell with your Martyrs!
tedh754 says
If Islam did take over the world, within several generations the human race would be extinct. Without western science they would all die from a plague. Anybody who calls a sand pile home doesn’t have the sense that God gave a bird.
Thomas Lewis says
In less than that time my children will be killing Muslims in this country. They will be destroying Mosque, removing Muslim communities with massive attacks, beheading Muslims because of their presence on this land. The heads of Muslims are only 2.5 million at the moment in twenty years there will be no more Muslims on this continent. Muslims are too ignorant about the west, they do not know what we are about, and they never will.
Celtic says
WTF – sorry but your comment makes it pretty evident that you could very well be a jihadi if you happened to come from a muslim country. Self defense? Sure – ethnic cleansing? Have you not learned anything from history?
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
My friend JimJ: I normally don’t respond to replies as ill-mannered as yours.
But I figure that, since you’re here on SIOA, we have in common our patriotism and our recognition of the innate evil of the islamonazi scourge.
So let’s start at the top, shall we? I presume you consider Einstein an acceptable ‘scientist’? http://wp.me/pPrQ9-jzE
Prophet Mohammad says
Yes, yes, Islam will rule the world, that is if they stop killing each other, in Pakistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Bahrain ( should I go on) At the rate at which they are finishing off their own it would be surprising if some moron has 12 sons or 25.