Recently a number of Arabic language websites posted the following picture which is attributed to the official Twitter account of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Caliph Ibrahim of the Islamic State.
The Arabic writing reads:
“It is permissible for the mujahid [jihadi] to enjoy young boys in the absence of women.”
The purported fatwa then justifies this position by quoting Koran 52:24:
“There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.”
A similar verses (76:19) reads: “There will circulate among them young boys made eternal. When you see them, you would think them [as beautiful as] scattered pearls.”

Angemon says
I don’t think the islamic state is either new or original in this regard…
Zimriel says
This… is… SPARTAA!
Sabri S. says
No…this is lies and false garbage spread by a bunch of
Dimwitted infidels who can’t or won’t read….i just read this
Verse in the Holy Quran and it says n o thing of the sort….
It clearly refers to “damsels”, the correct arabic interpretation,
And refers to men having the company of beautiful women
In heaven, surrounded by children as beautiful as pearls…
Nice try infidels!!!!
nabi ZK (pbum) says
“Holy Quran and it says n o thing of the sort….
It clearly refers to “damsels””
You are so stupid as to believe this idiocy and yet you call us dimwitted?
Your Friend and True nabi
nabi ZK (pbum)
String Hawke says
“Nice try infidels!!!!” – Sabri S.
“You are so stupid as to believe this idiocy and yet you call us dimwitted? ” – nabi ZK
So then Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (your Rightly Guided Caliph) has also “misinterpreted” it? Another in a very very very long line of prominent misunderstanders of Islam. It seems the only ones who don’t “misinterpret” it are the ones who try to friendly it up on TV.
BTW: Sorry if this comment shows up twice. It didn’t seem to post the first time so I’m reposting.
No Fear says
Quran 52:24
Sahih International
There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.
Muhsin Khan
And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls.
Pickthall
And there go round, waiting on them menservants of their own, as they were hidden pearls.
Yusuf Ali
Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.
Quran 76:19
Sahih International
There will circulate among them young boys made eternal. When you see them, you would think them [as beautiful as] scattered pearls.
Muhsin Khan
And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls.
Pickthall
There wait on them immortal youths, whom, when thou seest, thou wouldst take for scattered pearls.
Yusuf Ali
And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls.
ignorant disbelievers says
You idiot these refers to the Servant in paradise. You guys need to get a life. Learn how to properly clean your ass.
Angemon says
ignorant disbelievers posted:
“Learn how to properly clean your ass.”
Huh, we do know how to properly clean our asses. Paper, wet towels, water. Not with stones and certainly not with our hands, muslim style.
thelmalou says
Don’t you think these verses are a little ambiguous? If you read it in the original Arabic, you’d see they mean maidens. (Sarcasm, of course…)
duh_swami says
Haha Sabri…How do you know you’re going to Paradise?
And refers to men having the company of beautiful women In heaven, surrounded by children as beautiful as pearls…
Does that mean the dead have eternal sex right in front of those beautiful children?
Have you no shame?
Lia Wissing says
They are promised eternally erect penii.
Jerry says
What it probably means is that some Jihadi Muslims are small enough to bugger a pearl
or, more likely, that most Jihadi Muslims are broad minded enough to bugger anything, from small defenceless babies right through their own sometimes fat and ugly mothers.
albert says
HAHA and Muhammed used to dress in womens clothes as well ROFL, doesn’t it also say in the Koran that Muhammed kissed his nephews penis, was there anyone, any age, any species that guy wouldn’t abuse ???? this is more proof that the so called ” HOLY ” Koran was written by a bunch of smelly old perverts writing their own snuff PORN.
Johnny Pallyswine says
Hadith Lesson of the Month:
“And there shall wait on them [the Muslim men] young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls.”
Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: “The Sayings of the Syrians,” Chapter Title: “Hadith of Mu’awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan”:
“I saw the prophet – pbuh – sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the
prayers of Allah be upon him. For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire)
He (the Prophet) lift up his (al Hassan’s) shirt and kissed his (little) penis..”
روى أنه صلى الله عليه و سلم قبل زبيبة الحسن أو الحسين
He (the prophet) kissed the (little) penis of al Hassan or al Husein
رأيت النبي صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis
Another Hadith. Majma al-Zawa’id, Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, 299/9 مجمع الزوائد لعلي بن أبى بكر الهيثمي
رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه و سلم فرج ما بين فخذي الحسين و قبل زبيبته
رواه الطبراني و إسناده حسن
translated into English: “I saw the Messenger of Allah pbuh putting Husein’s legs apart and kissing his (little) penis.”
String Hawke says
So then Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has “misinterpreted” it too?
jayell says
“It clearly refers to “damsels”, the correct arabic interpretation,….” IN my brief acquaintance with written Arabic I’ve found it so imprecise that even native speakers argue over what things are supposed to mean. And we NEVER use the word ‘damsel’ in current English except as some kind of joke. So who taught YOU English, Sabri?
Amokles says
Uh, nope. Here’s a link to your (un)holy Quran 52:24 –
http://quran.com/52/24
Sahih International
There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.
Angemon says
The deficient muslim posted:
“No…this is lies and false garbage spread by a bunch of
Dimwitted infidels who can’t or won’t read….i just read this
Verse in the Holy Quran and it says n o thing of the sort….
It clearly refers to “damsels”, the correct arabic interpretation,
And refers to men having the company of beautiful women
In heaven, surrounded by children as beautiful as pearls…”
Nice try. Or, it would be a nice try if you weren’t a well known rabidly pro-ISIS liar, and if we couldn’t check for ourselves:
http://quran.com/52/24
“Sahih International
There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.
Muhsin Khan
And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls.
Pickthall
And there go round, waiting on them menservants of their own, as they were hidden pearls.
Yusuf Ali
Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.
Shakir
And round them shall go boys of theirs as if they were hidden pearls.
Dr. Ghali
And (there) go round them youths of their own, as if they were nestled pearl (s);“
Angemon says
Amokles beat me to it. That’s what I get for checking new posts through my email 😀
Angemon says
And No Fear as well 🙂
Islam will dominate the world says
We no for sure the American Soilders stay in the Anal
Under the dont Ask dont tell policy. They constantly were raping the young boy in Guantanamo Bay. Thats a fact you dirty Kaafirs.
Angemon says
A “fact” either you pulled out of your ass or some other muslim moron did and you’re just regurgitating. Crap is crap, and muslims are the ones who try to justify their gay tendencies with the need to fit more explosives in their anus.
Now go back to your dancing boy, former dancing boy – it’s almost Thursday night, your club will open soon.
FredvanH says
Actually, there’s a verse in the qu’ran (or is the surah or the hadith, who can tell this garbage apart), the translation of which actually reads something like mohammed got a boner from dressing in Aicha’s robes. Caitlyn Jenner avant la lettre, quoi.
kaafir stay hating says
You spoke the truth only idiots wound say the Quran mention this.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
… the Holy Quran and it says n o thing of the sort….
It clearly refers to “damsels”, the correct arabic interpretation,
They’re always quick with the magical inscrutable bad-translation-from-Arabic stuff. Hey, dude, it sez “hidden pearls” whether you like it or not. Go hit the text at the USC site, this is a very pro-Moslem divinity school, but they still have academic scruples. Arabic is no more difficult to translate than any other language. Spencer would know, he reads and writes it fluently, which is more than the vast majority of Moslems can claim.
Phil says
Sabri….you are being less than honest.
As a matter of record: Raymond Ibrahim wrote this piece, and Mr. Ibrahim is an Egyptian Copt and is fluent in Arabic, both the debased modern Cairene variant and the classical Qur’anic form.
Incidentally O practitioner of Taqiyyah, when I was a boy in Zamalek (yep, this Kaffir lived in the good ole Dar al-Islam), the interpretation of Surah 52 ayah 24 was definitely the following : “There will circulate among the servant boys for them, as if they were pearls well-protected”. Even that appalling islamophile Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall gave it the same translation. There aren’t that many ways Surat At-Tur can be translated. And as it is currently used by the more traditional Pashtun men to justify the institutionalized pederasty of Bacha Bazi, I don’t think it is an invention of the Sons of Apes & Pigs.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Even that appalling islamophile Muhammad Marmaduke Pickthall
Bernard Lewis was another “authoritative” Islamophile. These days we go to Daniel Pipes to get such bilge.
Brian says
People ALWAYS when referring to the Catholic church mention “pedophile priests” or similar which in fact is a myth, as priests are 100 times less likely to sexually abuse children than teachers. However in Islam, it is endemic, be it for Muslims clerics AND Muslims in general.
SEE: http://www.themediareport.com/fast-facts/ (Priests abuse facts)
And:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoBK8kHFbXE (Dancing boys of Afghanistan)
Dan says
Yeah can’t wait to see how the left spins this one.
Something like 3% of Catholic priests have done such. The total number in the entire history of that mess, that have been charged, (Which includes “Charged and released after being found innocent, and even falsely accused”) has been around 1500, (bad enough) while nearly twenty THOUSAND teachers a year are convicted of such, (Ann Coulter’s stats so here’s the source. Have at it.) yet nary a peep.
So what hypocrisy is going to happen to religious leaders that actually CONDONE such behavior?
Veronica Jones says
The Catholic priests that do abuse children are pedophiles…the ones that abuse adults are because of celibacy rules of the catholic church.
The boys for the muslims to abuse are well known, even though its hypocrisy..it is homosexuality.
Caroline says
Rank hypocrisy. They must throw themselves off a roof and command crowds to stone them.
The Arabs are well known for the cultural practice of having sex with other men or boys. It is well engrained.
Dan says
And by the way.
The priests who abused kids were going AGAINST their faith.
They weren’t practicing and publicly preaching it as doctrine for any to follow.
mortimer says
PEDOPHILIA IS NORMATIVE ISLAM.
Muslims who practice PEDOPHILIA are imitating the PERFECT MAN MOHAMMED…an epileptic, a highwayman, a womanizer, an enslaver, a mass murderer.
A priest who strays in that way is committing a grievous mortal sin and a now a crime as well.
Mullahs are notorious pedophiles in madrassahs (Islamic Koran schools). When the numbers come out, I believe will learn that most Muslim boys get raped in madrassahs.
A number of Islamic scholars such as al Nawawi spoke without condemnation about pedophilia and gay sex.
Zub says
“Mullahs are notorious pedophiles in madrassahs (Islamic Koran schools). When the numbers come out, I believe will learn that most Muslim boys get raped in madrassahs”
Interesting point. Makes one wonder about the guy in the White-House and his time spent in one as a youth? Perhaps this partially explains why he is so sympathetic to unbridled Muslim immigration. Nothing like spreading the love around with a little buggery for its citizens. That or it’s his way of “buggering” the USA in a metaphoric way.
Voytek says
http://img.wiocha.pl/images/3/7/37158562daec5b7df7c6868ed175744b.jpg
Angemon says
LOL!!! 😀 😀 😀
Baqiyah12 says
The caliph doesn’t have a Twitter account and the Quranic verse quoted doesn’t justify homosexual acts. You yourself know homosexual acts are haram and punishable by death in Islam.
Usually you stick to facts and it does you credit. Posting obviously fake stories and slander damages only you Robert.
RG says
Oh really, Baqiyah12, “fake stories”???? You better think again! It’s no secret that islam punishes no sin when it is committed for the advancement of the caliphate. Surely you knew that much, DIDN’T YOU???
“…in 2012, a cleric issue[d] a fatwa endorsing sodomy as a means of widening the anus in order to pack it with enough explosives to kill bystanders in a suicide bombing. As Sheikh Abu al-Dema al-Qasab put it, “Jihad comes first, for it is the pinnacle of Islam, and if the pinnacle of Islam can only be achieved through sodomy, then there is no wrong in it.”
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Linde Barrera says
To RG- Your post about the fatwa and sodomy was sickeningly disgusting, but thank you for enlightening me and no doubt others. I believe it, and also the translations that NOFEAR posted about the young boys being as “pearls”. The more I learn about the core texts of the quran, the more I believe they were inspired by Satan, who will use any means to confuse anyone. And these vulnerable boys will grow up to become homosexuals that their masters will throw off the roof? Lord Jesus help us all now.
Semeru says
That so called fatwah is a anti-sunni spoof that appeared on a british shia TV channel
Angemon says
Raymond Ibrahim, a reputed Middle-East scholar, fluent in Arabic, concluded it was true:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/raymond-ibrahim-islamic-sodomy-or-islamophobic-hoax
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/07/sodomy-jihad-fatwa-strange-and-disgusting-but-true
gravenimage says
What crap. Homosexuality is rife in Islam, and this is according to the texts and tenets of Islam.
What is Haram is *consensual* same-sex relationships—but Muslim men abusing small boys or raping men in order to humiliate them is perfectly Halal.
Besides the Houris—eternally regenerating virgins—”Martyrs” are also promised never-aging boys to abuse in Jannah (Islamic “paradise”).
gravenimage says
Also, don’t you love the idea that “Baqiyah12” is fretting over the “Caliph” being “slandered”?
I wonder if he has any trouble with the Al-Baghdadi condoning the taking of sex slaves, beheading of journalists and aid workers, and genocide of Infidels? Certainly, he doesn’t indicate that he does…
And why should he? One of the slogans of ISIS is that the Caliphate is “everlasting and expanding”—and that translates as “Baqiyah”.
Joseph says
@ gravenimage
I thought smoking wasn’t allowed in Shitslam? So why is “Baqiyah12″ trying to blow smoke up our arses?
You should be OK because I bet he is trying to do it to only the males on this site.
Amokles says
And that somehow makes Islam OK – the fact that they toss homosexuals off rooftops? Your religion is twisted.
Darren says
Egyptian Cleric: Muslim Brotherhood Authorizes ‘Anal Jihad’ for Lonely Terrorists
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/07/11/egyptian-cleric-muslim-brotherhood-sheiks-issued-fatwa-permitting-anal-jihad/
So a muslim cleric issues a fatwa saying it’s OK to have sex with men. Now using my amazing powers of deduction, I can assume an islamic cleric knows more about islam than most. So if islamic clerics issue a fatwa saying it’s ok to have sex with other guys, one has to conclude that there must be some justification for it. If homosexual acts are haram then why would an islamic cleric who is an ultra right wing islamic cleric, considering the muslim brotherhood is a jihadist organization, issue such an edict? Would you care to explain this?
Zub says
This is because they are making it up as they’re going along… just like Mo did 14 centuries ago. Adjust the doctrine to fit the need. Notice a pattern here?
Brian says
EXACTLY!
Peggy says
I thought they killed gays over there. Not only are they engaging in a homosexual act, they are PEDOPHILES. So if a man engages in sex with another man over there, he is considered gay and must be killed but when they engage in the same act and are pedophiles on top of it, their unholy book say it’s ok. No religion on earth is as evil and disgusting as Islam and they tell us we must respect it!!! NO WAY. When I see them, all I feel is disgust. Molesting little boys is permissable and they have the nerve to remind us how some priests molest kids. If priests do that and get caught they are dealt with in our courts. When their disgusting beast do that to little kids they are fine. That is the whole difference so the next time one of them says anything about us and that this happens in our religion I will certainly remind them that it doesn’t happen with our consent and blessing of our Lord Jesus Christ.
reyol says
They do, but they define homosexuality different there. The one manfully sodomizing the other is not a homosexual – as long as he only does that. The full grown man who effeminately enjoys being sodomized IS a homosexual. The man who gets raped is merely a shameful man. Prepuscent boys are fair game and halal. Postpuscent is dangerous. Two men who enjoy each other to the exclusion of women are homosexual and get thrown off of buildings. It’s a weird logic. I hope this helps.
Dan says
I had a nephew server over there.
What he was told, by locals is:
“Girls are for babies. Boys are for pleasure.”
My nephew said he didn’t need to inquire any further.
thelmalou says
This is exactly the same logic some of the ancients had. As in, homosexual acts were only condemnatory for the “submissive” partner. The other participant was ok as long as he was older. The adult mentors courted the young boys and plied them with gifts and political connections. Can you say “Socrates”?
Jaladhi says
>”No religion on earth is as evil and disgusting as Islam and they tell us we must respect it!!! NO WAY.”<
It says it all about this "religion" and its followers!!
Jaladhi says
This is a reply to Peggy above.
Don McKellar says
There are no limits to the depth of evil in Islam, so this is no surprise at all. Pedophilia is an Islamic “norm”.
Gary says
Evil, is the Islamic “norm”. Yet where are the moderate muslims? Why do they remain silent? Why do they allow such vile evil to take place in the name of their religion?
Answer: You can check out, but you can never leave.
Moshe Akiva says
During the dearth or famine of jihad-pussy, the innocent, delicate, sensitive mujahedin, who is also powerless against the temptation of Satan when he sees a woman’s hair or ankle (therefore he must rape her) naturally is entitled to the asshole of a boy, too. Of course it must be a young boy, according to the age old Arab wisdom: “For a child a woman, for a good time a young boy, but for sheer ecstasy a melon.”
I guess the melon doesn’t ripen just yet over there.
wildjew says
Oh Moshe. you look to do much surfing of pornographic internet sites. Insha’Allah your real name is Muhammad and not Moshe.
rickMT says
Bill Clinton’s birthplace was Hope, Arkansas, Water Melon Capital of the World. Wonder if he make Hope famous with his extra curricular activities in the “patch”.
the Oracle says
Young Boys = Kids = Goats
There is a certain logic there.
Bezelel says
In islam the way to separate the men from the boys is with a pry bar.
Daniel says
“his-lamb” is the most disgusting disease ever to plague this earth!! Nothing else even comes close to that abomination! Abolish it NOW!! before we are all contaminated!!
Arthur says
I just can’t fathom what goes on in the minds of these fundamentalist Muslims. It is so foreign to my way of thinking and the natural behavior of every other living species. I guess that’s why it takes a lifetime of study in madrassas in order to turn out people this screwed up.
No Fear says
Personally I cant wait to go to the Islamic Paradise.
It is, in effect, a brothel where I can screw whoever I please.
Allah must be a pimp.
(sarc)
Jimbo says
Whatever. Old Arab saying, “Women are for making babies, blonde boys are for making love to”
They’re all at it. I spent a year working in the oil fields of the middle east, we were forever rescuing the cabin boys from abuse!
The fact is they all like a bit of bum and will use any excuse to justify it.
bernie says
The only reason they would go to university, is to get a Bachelor of Arse degree.
Ephesian says
Jimbo…you’re right,and if I have got this right,old Lawrence of Arabia was well aware of this fact,as they had him over a barrel(literally….)
Hayden Macpherson says
Those poor children! It makes me want to weep when I think of what so many innocent young people are enduring at the hands of these savages, both male and female. As for the stories told by the Christian and Yazidi women who have been captured and raped by IS, they are absolutely heartbreaking.
Dear Lord, destroy these monsters, down to the very last one! Show them the power of Thy holy Wrath and the strength of Thy righteous indignation.
“All our enemies have opened their mouths against us.
Fear and a snare is come upon us, desolation and destruction.
Mine eye runneth down with rivers of water for the destruction of the daughter of my people.
ע
Mine eye trickleth down, and ceaseth not, without any intermission,
Till the LORD look down, and behold from heaven.
Mine eye affecteth mine heart because of all the daughters of my city…
ר
O Lord, thou hast pleaded the causes of my soul; thou hast redeemed my life.
O LORD, thou hast seen my wrong: judge thou my cause.
Thou hast seen all their vengeance and all their imaginations against me…
ת
Render unto them a recompence, O LORD, according to the work of their hands.
Give them sorrow of heart, thy curse unto them.
Persecute and destroy them in anger from under the heavens of the LORD.” ~Lamentations 3
allan carr bryan says
Let’s get this straight HOMOSEXUALITY is against Islamic Law. Yet anyone who sleeps with a MALE IMO is homosexual/gay. So are we going to see them put themselves to death by throwing themselves of a tall building. Hypocrites spring to mind when it suites them.
duh_swami says
#Boys pure as pearls need love too…
Mahound used to go about town sucking the tongues of little boys and kissing the penis of infant boys. He also said to ‘kill those who do it, and those who have it done to them’…
Does that mean oral is good, anal is bad?
If there are ‘boys pure as pearls’, in Paradise, what is their function? What do they do?
Muslim says
Servant boys, not boys for homosexual acts
Tafseer Ibn Katheer:
( ﻭﻳﻄﻮﻑ ﻋﻠﻴﮩﻢ ﻏﻠﻤﺎﻥ ﻟﻬﻢ ﻛﺄﻧﮩﻢ ﻟﺆﻟﺆ ﻣﻜﻨﻮﻥ )
(And there will go round boy-servants of theirs to serve
them as if they were preserved pearls.) This is a
description of the servants and aids, the believers will
have in Paradise. Their servants will be beautiful,
graceful in appearance, clean and neat as well-preserved
pearls,
You may hate islam, but at least be sincere in your criticism
duh_swami says
Haha…get lost Muslim…
countryfirst says
Muslim, like you expect everyone to be sincere in our criticism, where is your sincerity in interpreting koranic verses? I think baghdadi is more honest than you are….
Darren says
I’ll take you at your word for the sake of the discussion, but can you please explain this? I’m not trying to be a reactionary I am seriously confused. Please read the article below and comment.
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/07/11/egyptian-cleric-muslim-brotherhood-sheiks-issued-fatwa-permitting-anal-jihad/
An Egyptian cleric formerly known as the “preacher of the revolution” during the revolt against President Hosni Mubarak warned Egyptian television viewers this week that Muslim Brotherhood sheiks have issued a fatwa permitting “anal jihad” for terrorists far from their wives, which is exactly what it sounds like.
The Ayatollah Khomeini’s Book: Sex with Children and Animals
The Ayatollah Khomeini’s Book: Sex with Children and Animals
The leader of the Iranian Revolution in 1989, Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, wrote extensively on Islamic Jurisprudence. A two-volume book, which was published originally in Arabic, was called ‘Tahrir al Wasilah’. Translated into Farsi, the book is called “Tahrirolvasyleh.” (read entire text here.) Khomeini also had another treatise on Islamic rules for living, called in English, “The Little Green Book.” (see entire text here.)
It is useful to understand what an esteemed Islamic leader such as the Ayatollah teaches his followers.
Are the muslim brotherhood and Ayatollah misunderstanding islam? Can some of you experts weigh in. Are there passages in the koran or hadiths that justify these actions? I already know the answer but for the sake of anyone reading that might be in the dark, would you mind linking them.
Darren says
Link to the Ayatollah thing.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=98d_1268716355
Darren says
A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven. [“Tahrirolvasyleh”, fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990]
A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable.
If one commits the act of sodomy with a cow, a ewe, or a camel, their urine and their excrement become impure and even their milk may no longer be consumed. The animal must then be killed as quickly as possible and burned.
Wine and all intoxicating beverages are impure, but opium and hashish are not.
If a man sodomises the son, brother, or father of his wife after their marriage, the marriage remains valid.
During sexual intercourse, if the penis enters a woman’s vagina or a man’s anus, fully or only as far as the circumcision ring, both partners become impure, even if they have not reached puberty; they must consequently perform ablutions.
A woman who has contracted a continuing marriage does not have the right to go out of the house without her husband’s permission; she must remain at his disposal for the fulfilment of any one of his desires, and may not refuse herself to him except for a religiously valid reason. If she is totally submissive to him, the husband must provide her with her food, clothing, and lodging, whether or not he has the means to do so. A woman who refuses herself to her husband is guilty, and may not demand from him food, clothing, lodging, or any later sexual relations; however, she retains the right to be paid damages if she is repudiated.
If a father (or paternal grandfather) marries off his daughter (or granddaughter) in her absence without knowing for a certainty that she is alive, the marriage becomes null and void as soon as it is established that she was dead at the time of the marriage.
It is not illegal for an adult male to ‘thigh’ or enjoy a young girl who is still in the age of weaning; meaning to place his penis between her thighs, and to kiss her. [“The Little Green Book”]
If a man commits adultery with an unmarried woman, and subsequently marries her, the child born of that marriage will be a bastard unless the parents can be sure it was conceived after they were married. A child born of an adulterous father is legitimate.Ali [son in law of Mohammed], having cut off the hands of two thieves, treated their wounds and offered them his hospitality, and this affected them so much that they became utterly devoted to him; or again when he heard that the marauding army of Muawiyah had abused a woman of one of the tribes, he was so upset and moved to pity he declared: “If a man died after such an occurrence, no one could blame him.” And yet, despite a nature as sensitive as that, Ali bared his sword and hacked the perpetrators to pieces. This is the meaning of justice.- “The Sayings of Ayatollah Khomeini, Political, Philosophical, Social and Religious” (The Little Green Book), ISBN number 0-553-14032-9.
Paedophilia legal in Iran
In June, 2002 Iranian authorities approved a law raising the age at which girls can marry without parental consent from 9 to 13. The elected legislature actually passed the bill in 2000, but the “Guardian Council”, a 12-man body of conservative clerics, vetoed it as contradicting Islamic Sharia law. Iran’s clerical establishment insists that the marriage of young girls is a means to combat immorality. The Expediency Council, which arbitrates between the elected parliament and the theocratic Guardian Council, timidly passed the measure. The law however does not change the age at which children can get married (nine for girls and 14 for boys), but says that girls below the age of 13 and boys younger than 15 need their parents’ permission and the approval of a “Righteous Court.” Reformists state that the new law does not protect children, since most of those who marry at such a young age do so by force.
A religious decree by Khomeini ordered that girl prisoners who are virgins must be raped before execution, to prevent them from entering heaven. A Guard conducts the rape the night before execution. The next day, a marriage certificate is issued by a mullah, who sends it to the girl’s family, along with a box of chocolates as a wedding gift.
It is quite common in Iran for older men to marry children, as long as they pay the appropriate bride-price to the girl’s family. This basically means that a father can sell his daughter to whomever he wants, whilst the mad mullahs see this as a means of maintaining purity. We prefer to call this child prostitution and rape, especially given that Iran’s clerics approve of the ‘tradition’ of ‘temporary marriage’ (Mut’a), which can last less than 24 hours and may be repeated as many times as desired. This form of exploitation is widespread and legitimises sex with young children. The man may even visit his temporary wife every weekend at her father’s house, for about $10 per visit.
Khomeini on prostitution and Mut’a (temporary marriage)
“It is permissible to do Mut’a with an adulteress, but with aversion, particularly if she is a well-known prostitute. If Mut’a is done with her, she should be told to give-up her profession.”
March 15, 2010: Gulf News reports that a guard has been arrested for having sex with the animals he was guarding on a farm. Muslim readers writing in to comment in the newspaper want to to know if the animals are still fit for eating.
Any Shiite in the audience care commenting? I’m curious not being reactionary.
Champ says
Ok, I sincerely hate islam.
abhishek says
The fact that I’m still alive after reading this and living among such ignoble and despicable humans ideas and beliefs is in itself a curse on me. I must have committed cruel actions to be living in the modern world. I want to cry and ashamed of being human. How much lower can a human sink to I do not know.
rdak says
Can the human civilisation sink any lower?
What is disheartening is that a belief such as this is considered holy by so called human beings. Are we really humans with morals? It is not to be blamed on muslims/christians/whoever but the totality of Human beings have failed to have allowed belief systems such as these to florish. The fundamental problem is people are ready to believe in anything without a foundation of logic – whether it is islam or christianity or hinduism or buddhism or etc. A religion SHOULD bind philosophy, logic and theology – this is how eastern religion was built on – hinduism, buddhism, jainism, etc but even these religious practices these days now have lost all logic, reasoning or critical thinking – blind belief has taken over all logic. Each being must be encouraged to challenge the belief as far as the logic goes.
Zub says
“It is not to be blamed on muslims/christians/whoever but the totality of Human beings have failed to have allowed belief systems such as these to florish.”
That is because those who perpetrate it have bigger and better weapons to enforce it over those who do not. Why do you think I-Slam was so successfully spread over much of the ME and No.Africa in only a short period of time?
rdak says
whatever twist one wants to put on using boys as slaves/sex slaves – is that noble? is having a slave a noble act? it is absolutely not! Whatever religion this may be in, existance of such despicable/ignoble ideas prove two things: either the human civilisation is a failure or a chance to uplift our moral values by rejecting such ignoble ideas. A big challenge ahead – are we going to fail or succeed in universally moral values?
dodo says
Turning what probably is fatherless boys into sex slaves is something the evil world of islam will have to answer for to the true God, not some rock in the desert
eib says
Rape this morning, buggery the night before. Wow. Islam is a creep’s paradise.
Ephesian says
eib…yep,very busy all year around in Rotherham…
ian says
Look up what Bacha Bereesh means and it’ll tell you all you need to know. Beardless boy, hence why muslims grow beards from an early age to stop their dad and uncles make them dress up in their mums clothes, make them dance and then have sex with them. Not only do you get 72 virgin girls to have sex with you also get 28 virgin boys to do whatever you want with! These happen to all be naked so make of that as you will.
lacey says
now the truth comes out ,all we have here are a bunch of child molesters ,and probably alla told them it was ok,from donkeys to goats to sheep graduation time means little boys .may their little dicks fall off
Truth Seeker says
Islam is a Drug; thereby we find with all criminal activities, either with Justification or by Denial..
pelayo says
Yeah, this is the same religion that recently issued a fatwah making it permissible to have sex with ones dead wife as long as she was still warm.
rdak says
How do these people buy into this?
xyz says
sodomy and beheadings…how very islamic of them
I'm not sure says
I remember that the group officially stated that they did not have one. It might be a parody in the vein of
@MaulanaBaghdadi and
@CaliphIbrahimAR .
It’s popular to tweet at, though.
trythinking says
Are you blind to the mind management we are being subjected to here?
Jihadwatch business plan: feed transparent nonsense to narrow minds, then laugh all the way to the bank.
Wake up!
Mark says
Hahaha, trust satans muslims to use an id name that is the opposite of what muslims are and the opposite of what allah and islam islam teaches.
eduardo odraude says
trythinking, you claim to represent thinking, yet you provide no evidence for your claim that this is “transparent nonsense.” How about you try examining some evidence. Or are you afraid of evidence, because you can only throw out empty slander?
http://www.quotingislam.blogspot.com
Phil says
Might suggest you try the same, sport! This justification is NOT something new…it’s been used as a justification by Pashtun tribesmen for the practice of Bacha Bereesh (a.k.a. bacha bazi) – and institutionalized, traditionally sanction pederasty is rampant in Afghanistan and much of Pakistan. And before you weave the usual web of obfuscation and denial, I’d suggest you read the peer-reviewed report by Jan Willem de Lind, van Wijngaarden & Bushra Rani (2011): Male adolescent concubinage in Peshawar, Northwestern Pakistan, Culture, Health & Sexuality, 13:9, 1061-107.
Incidentally, O promulgator of half-truths, would you care to expound on exactly what your prophet was referring to when he mentioned ‘ghulman’?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Pearl jam on a pearl boy, without the prerogative feminist rights for lack of having a vagina, treated like a toy, his hairless young body turned into a sex object by so many Mujahidin who need to let off a little steam after a hard day’s mass murdering. Ain’t nothing wrong with that. When the young fella grows up, he can move to America, go on welfare, rename himself Earl the Pearl, and turn whirlwind tricks in the Men’s Room at local gay bars, wearing a Knicks shirt having been Americanized (get it?). He’ll be a bona fide victim under remuneration. Makes sense.
Edward says
Ah, I see some disagreement amongst the readers, they say Koran verses 52:24, 76:19 are not what is inferred. They probably are not reading the latest abrogated versions.The Koran seems to be field tested and is always upgraded to what is needed accordingly. Looks like the young victims now have a substitute role, that is to satisfy the ignorant jihad’s appetites.
I respectably expect God to do something to protect these helpless poor young souls!.
Matthieu Baudin says
Accounts of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi’s taste for Afghani dancing boys were circulating many months ago.
I shudder to think that this may attract more recruits to ISIS ranks from amongst the grotesque boy rapists out in the world.
Uncle Vladdiq says
Re: “attributed to the official Twitter account of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Caliph Ibrahim of the Islamic State.”
UM … WHY does Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Caliph Ibrahim of the Islamic State, even STILL HAVE A TWITTER ACCOUNT?!
HAS TWITTER ABSOLUTELY NO STANDARDS WHATSOEVER?!
eduardo odraude says
In some early cultures where women are held in a kind of contempt (for example among many of the ancient Greeks), there is not yet much of a recognition of the distinction between homosexual and heterosexual. Instead, the main distinction noticed is between the active person in sex, and the passive receptive one, who is deemed in a sense female, even if not biologically so. In ancient Greece, the woman and the receptive male were often both considered in a sense contemptible — with one partial exception: if a boy allowed himself to be used by an adult male mentor/teacher as part of a kind of “love” relationship intended to mediate the knowledge and experience of the mentor about philosophy, life, business, etc, and provided the boy did not desire or enjoy the passive sexual submission, then under those conditions that was apparently NOT considered contemptible by ancient Greeks. Only the adult man who desired the passive role in sex was considered to be contemptible and like a woman.
It was apparently with the development of a different, perhaps Christian concept of women, a concept that did not hold them or their passive sexual role in contempt, that a concept of “homosexuality” vs. “heterosexuality” emerged. Why? Because once women and their comparatively passive and anatomically receptive role in sex was no longer deemed contemptible, people no longer thought the “active vs. passive” distinction worth paying much attention to. Thus in sex, the world no longer fell into active males on the one hand, and on the other hand women and receptive males. Instead, it now fell into male-male on the one hand, and male-female on the other. People thus developed much more of a concept of “homosexuality” as distinct from “heterosexuality.” In many pre-industrial societies, that distinction apparently barely existed. Instead it’s the active man on the one hand and on the other the passive receptor, whether female or male. Maybe this has something to do with social structures in which gender roles and gender hierarchies are much more defined and prominent than individualized relationships are.
The upshot of all this in relation to the Islamic world is that traditional Muslims in the more backward Muslim societies often have little concept of “homosexuality” vs. “heterosexuality,” perhaps in part because Muslim women in many parts of the Islamic world are profoundly subordinated to men. As I explained above, sharp, conscious awareness of a distinction between “homosexual” and “heterosexual” sometimes seems to emerge as a result of a certain elevation of women from a position of total inferiority to something tending toward spiritual equality. Was it Hitler who complained that Christianity had feminized men, softened them, made them less warlike? Did Nietzsche complain about Christianity in a similar way? By tending to gentle the male, even if it took many centuries, even millennia, for progress to be made, Christianity at the same time raised the female.
ce says
I am surprised that the caliph did not also include the following hadith in his justification for adult men sodomizing young boys:
Chapter 70. Book of Marriage
XXV
“It is related that Abu Ja’far said regarding someone who dallies with a boy that if there is penetration, then he cannot marry his mother.”
Sahih al-Bukhari 5088
In-book reference : Book 67, Hadith 26
USC-MSA web (English) reference : Vol. 7, Book 62, Hadith 25
also…
in “Musnad Ahmad,” Hadith number: 16245, Volume Title:
“The Sayings of the Syrians,” Chapter Title: “Hadith of Mu?awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan,”
Narrated by Hisham Ibn Kasim, narrated by Huraiz, narrated by Abdul Rahman Ibn Abu Awf Al Jarashy,
and narrated by Mua?wiya who said,
“I saw the prophet (pbuh) sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali ,
may the prayers of Allah be upon him . For no tongue or lips that the prophet sucked on will be tormented (by hell fire).
Semeru says
119 comments, and not one single commentator has checked this article to see if is true, or is a spoof
Both photos are on the net, and date back before the so called “It Is Permissible for the Mujahid to Enjoy Young Boys in the Absence of Women” Fatwah
The first can be found
http://www.siasat.pk/forum/showthread.php?275174-Isis-releases-video-of-child-training-center-with-omar-al-shishani&p=2577315&viewfull=1#post2577315
The second image can be found
http://ns1.bah2day.com/news/234099.html
Here is a translation
“Al-Nusra Front” declares a child of its members and the commander of its campaign in Homs in central Syria killing
News Source: Ali Abd al-Salman
Section: Syria – Lebanon – Palestine
April 11, 2014 7:14
Readers Number: 310
Organization “Al-Nusra Front” terrorist announced on Thursday evening, the death of one of its elements as a child has not attained the age of 14 years, also revealed in the death of military commander of the organization in charge of lifting the siege imposed on the central Syrian city of Homs.
Front and explained by the level of the account on the social networking “Twitter” site that he “killed by a group of State (the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant Daash) battles in (the city of) Abu Kamal” located in the east of Syria. And published a “victory image of a child who did not mention his name.
On the other hand, it announced the organization, for the killing of its military commander in charge of lifting the siege imposed on the central Syrian city of Homs.
Front and announced through the account attributed to it on the site (Twitter) for “killing« Abu Yaman »the military commander in charge of Al-Nusra Front, led a campaign to lift the siege on the (city) Homs” located in the center of Syria.
The second photo appears on the net 5 months before it re-appeared in the fatwahs
Once again Ibrahim has bee taken in by a spoof and then mislead folks here at JW
Angemon says
Semeru posted:
“119 comments, and not one single commentator has checked this article to see if is true, or is a spoof”
Let me guess: you’re going to claim it is an hoax and give no evidence for what you say (like, for example, link to the source of the hoax) while trying to chip away at the credibility of the author with all manner of irrelevant crap.
“Both photos are on the net, and date back before the so called “It Is Permissible for the Mujahid to Enjoy Young Boys in the Absence of Women” Fatwah”
Called it. This is not the first time you try to link the credibility of an article with the accompanying pic, even though nowhere it’s stated that the pic is directly tied to the article. We’ve had articles on Obama accompanied with stock photos. Does that mean Obama never said what is on the articles? Of course not.
And notice that the photos were part of the twitter post – why don’t you take it up to your child raping correligionists?
“Once again Ibrahim has bee taken in by a spoof and then mislead folks here at JW”
Once again, you try to undermine the credibility of an article by portraying it as being false without ever presenting any evidence to it. Classic you, semeru.
Semeru says
Nonse said This is not the first time you try to link the credibility of an article with the accompanying pic, even though nowhere it’s stated that the pic is directly tied to the article.
In most cases it normally states that an image is not related to the article, and the previous article was about the burning of a copt in Egypt, In that case the image was pixaled and cropped, in an attempted to disguise the fact the image was not from Egypt.
The article is about the accompanying pic in this case, according to Ibrahim.
Ibrahim claims that Recently a number of Arabic language websites posted the following picture which is attributed to the official Twitter account of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the Caliph of the Islamic State.
If the image is genuine, where is the tweet time stamp? why have they used an image of a by martyr? Why have they used verse 52.24?
So here is the deception, firstly the header is in big print is It Is Permissible for the Mujahid to Enjoy Young Boys in the Absence of Women So readers are already sold on that the fatwah is genuine, they over look that ibrahim himself writes
The purported fatwa then justifies this position by quoting Koran 52:24:
There will circulate among them [servant] boys [especially] for them, as if they were pearls well-protected.
The passage, that supposedly justify sex with boys, mention neither sexual rewards nor boys on earth.
These eternal beings compared to “pearls”, who are circulating and moving in Paradise and offering refreshments, are called “boys” in English, but the words used for them in Arabic are not identical. Other English translations say they are “youths” or “young men” or “menservants”. The words chosen depend on what the translators think was meant.
Nonse said And notice that the photos were part of the twitter post
Is it a genuine twitter post, if it is the time stamp
Nonse said why don’t you take it up to your child raping correligionists?
Firstly I and not a moslem
Secondly moslems do not have exclusive rights on child rape, what about all those priests, especially those co-religionist (catholics) of the owner of this site
Do I have to remind you of scum like Sir James Wilson Vincent “Jimmy” Savile , Rolf Harris, Paul Gadd (Gary Glitter)
Angemon says
The dunce posted:
“In most cases it normally states that an image is not related to the article, and the previous article was about the burning of a copt in Egypt, In that case the image was pixaled and cropped, in an attempted to disguise the fact the image was not from Egypt.”
And what does that have to do with this article? Nothing, that’s what.
“If the image is genuine, where is the tweet time stamp? why have they used an image of a by martyr? Why have they used verse 52.24?”
Why don’t you rake it up to the arabic language websites who brought it up? Why are you trying to blame Raymond?
“So here is the deception, firstly the header is in big print is It Is Permissible for the Mujahid to Enjoy Young Boys in the Absence of Women So readers are already sold on that the fatwah is genuine, they over look that ibrahim himself writes”
The deception here is that you’re trying to claim that the picture has nothing to do with the article and therefore the article is false. Like I said, this is not the first time you do that.
More from the dunce:
“The passage, that supposedly justify sex with boys, mention neither sexual rewards nor boys on earth.
These eternal beings compared to “pearls”, who are circulating and moving in Paradise and offering refreshments, are called “boys” in English, but the words used for them in Arabic are not identical. Other English translations say they are “youths” or “young men” or “menservants”. The words chosen depend on what the translators think was meant.”
And, of course, you don’t ever explain what the word is, just that it’s not boys. One would expect that when someone says “this words does not mean this” they’d follow with “this word means that”. Also, you seem to forget is that Raymond is fluent in Arabic.
“Firstly I and not a moslem”
And yet, you go on to say this:
“Secondly moslems do not have exclusive rights on child rape, what about all those priests, especially those co-religionist (catholics) of the owner of this site”
This is exactly how muslims answer when confronted with the islamic justification to have sex with children. So I’ll just tell you what I tell other muslims, muslim: catholic priests who abused children did so despite their religion, not because of it. Muslims who abuse children do so because of their religion, not despite of it. Also, the number of muslims who abuse children is exponentially larger than the number of priests who abuse children. Should we overlook that islamic law sanctifies raping little girls because some priests abused children? Should we not notice that having sex with underage children is seen as a good thing because the inventor of your vile religion did do and he’s regarded as the best role model, someone whose actions should be mimicked as close as possible as a sign of devotion?
Semeru says
Nonse said Should we overlook that islamic law sanctifies raping little girls because some priests abused children
I have never denied that islamic law sanctifies raping little girls. Even if islam does sanctify rape of girls still doe not alter the fact that pedophilia is not exclusively islamic,
I notice you write Also, the number of muslims who abuse children is exponentially larger than the number of priests who abuse children., of course this is the case, But are there exponentially larger number of moslem abusing children than non-muslims.
Another point how many moslem majority states use islamic law and sanction raping little girls.
Remember the case of the Indonesian cleric, who married an underage girl, Spencer and JW, where really loud mouthed about the issue and slagging Indonesia, but where very quite stayed vey quiet when the cleric was jailed, not all islamic counries apply sharia, and pedophilia and child marriage is illegal.
But this debate is about sodomizing young boys
Koran 4;16
If two men among you are guilty of lewdness, punish them both. If they repent and amend, leave them alone; for Allah is Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.
The Sunan Abu Dawud, Ibn Abbas reports the following about early Islam and Muhammad’s punishment of homosexuals: . . . “If you find anyone doing as Lot’s people did, kill the one who does it, and the one to whom it is done” (vol. 3, p. 145, no. 4447).
And
“Ibn Abbas said: if a man who is not married is seized committing sodomy, he will be stoned to death” (vol. 3, p. 1245, no. 4448).
Ibn Abbas and Abu Huraira reported God’s messenger as saying, “Accursed is he who does what Lot’s people did.” In a version . . . on the authority of Ibn Abbas it says that Ali [Muhammad’s cousin and son-in-law] had two people burned and that Abu Bakr [Muhammad’s chief companion] had a wall thrown down on them. (vol. 1, p. 765, Prescribed Punishments; cf. Maududi vol. 2, p. 52, note 68)
Therefore
Sharia law does not allow sodomy, and it is punishable with whipping and death
Ibrahim may be fluent in arabic, but that doesn’t stop him by sensationalizing and telling porkies.
Angemon says
The dunce posted:
“I have never denied that islamic law sanctifies raping little girls.”
And then he wrote:
“Even if islam does sanctify rape of girls”
There’s no “even if”, dunce – islamic law glorifies men having sex with little girls because that was what muhammad did.
“still doe not alter the fact that pedophilia is not exclusively islamic”
Which is a point made by no one here. The point I made is that islam considers having sex with children something that men should do in imitation of muhammad. That’s the key difference, dunce – aberration that needs to be prevented and its practitioners punished vs best example of conduct.
“not all islamic counries apply sharia, and pedophilia and child marriage is illegal.”
Not under sharia law it isn’t. And in those countries where marrying underage girls is illegal, are those laws being actively enforced?
“Therefore
Sharia law does not allow sodomy, and it is punishable with whipping and death”
Wrong. Sharia law’s motto is “Necessity cancels Obligation”, which is exactly the reason that allowed for the sodomy fatwa. In any case, if you have a problem with the news of this fatwa in particular, take it up to the arabic websites spreading it, not to Raymond Ibrahim, since he’s only telling us what those site say.
“Ibrahim may be fluent in arabic, but that doesn’t stop him by sensationalizing and telling porkies.”
So you don’t deny that “boys” is a valid translation? And, of course, you jump in to attack Raymond, forgetting he just translated the news being reported in Arabic web sites. No, wait, not forgetting – hoping we forget that.
Semeru says
Agrononse said Wrong. Sharia law’s motto is “Wrong. Sharia law’s motto is “Necessity cancels Obligation”, which is exactly the reason that allowed for the sodomy fatwa.”, which is exactly the reason that allowed for the sodomy fatwa.
This is interesting, Where is the islamic source to back your claim “Necessity cancels Obligation” makes allowance for sodomy.
I will accept any islamic source except the English shia tv channel which is/was under investigation for anti sunni hate propaganda.
I think you will find that “Necessity cancels Obligation” applies to eating pork and and missing prayers
Concering the sodomy fatwah, Ibrahim stays well away from the source, a forum called lions of sunnah
Were this fatwah/sick joke first appeared, the commentator did not leave a link or reference any way
The text in the formun is
It is said – only God knows – that before he acted, the terrorist asked a sheikh, that he intends to insert explosive capsules in his rectum, seeking jihad, in order to carry out jihad operations, in desire for virgins.
http://web.archive.org/web/20091002024147/http://www.montdiatna.com:8686/forum/showthread.php?t=105911
Well we need not go any further, Just look at only God knows. So if only Gods knows then how can any body else know if a fatwah was really issued,
Using the term is
Angemon says
The dunce posted:
“This is interesting, Where is the islamic source to back your claim “Necessity cancels Obligation” makes allowance for sodomy.
I will accept any islamic source except the English shia tv channel which is/was under investigation for anti sunni hate propaganda.”
Do your own homework, donkey boy. Read a book once in a while, will ya? You probably think you’re very smart. You think that you can undermine my position by asking evidence for every single thing I say, even if it’s my ownership of a book. Well, you know what? Most of folks here are as well-versed on islamic orthodoxy as I am, or even better. So exactly who are you hoping to fool? BTW, remember how that “I’ll ask him for evidence of everything” strategy has worked out for you so far? Yeah, it takes a muslim to keep sticking to something it’s clearly not working.
And, of course, for someone obsessed with “sources”, you have a track record or not giving them. Quite the little hypocrite, aren’t you? I bet you don’t like it when the shoe’s on the other foot: where’s your evidence, from islamic sources, that what I said isn’t the truth? You won’t ever give it because you can’t – they don’t exist.
More from the dunce:
“I think you will find that “Necessity cancels Obligation” applies to eating pork and and missing prayers”
Now let’s apply the dunce’s logic to his own words:
“Where is the islamic source to back your claim “Necessity cancels Obligation” applies to eating pork and and missing prayers“?
Of course, he has none. He knows what I’m saying is the true, and he’s banking on others not knowing.
“Concering the sodomy fatwah, Ibrahim stays well away from the source, a forum called lions of sunnah”
Raymond has proved that fatwa is real well beyond any reasonable doubt. But you’re not one to have reasonable doubts, are you?
“Were this fatwah/sick joke first appeared, the commentator did not leave a link or reference any way
The text in the formun is
It is said – only God knows – that before he acted, the terrorist asked a sheikh, that he intends to insert explosive capsules in his rectum, seeking jihad, in order to carry out jihad operations, in desire for virgins.”
Herre’s the problem, dunce: your alleged “source” of the so-called “hoax” dates back to August 28, 2009. Raymond first published about that fatwa on July 12, 2009:
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/sodomy-for-the-sake-of-islam/
So how can that be, dunce? How can you track the source of something Raymond published on July 12, 2009 to something posted on August 28, 2009, over one month after?
You must own stocks on a shovel company because you keep digging yourself deeper, dunce. Now, a reasonable, open-minded person would man up and admit their mistakes. They would apologize and admit that link you posted can’t possibly be the source for Raymond’s article. But expecting a normal response from you is a lost cause – why would a muslim humble himself before a non-muslim? Evidence be damned, you said that Raymond is wrong and that’s it.
I’m going to guess your reply: you’re going to call me names, say I’m a liar because I can’t prove that necessity cancels obligation, and insist Raymons is wrong, despite all evidence to the contrary, all along while not providing any evidence that the “necessity cancels obligation” only applies to eating haram food and skipping prayers.
Angemon says
You know what, dunce? I think that this needs to be stressed out for you:
“This is interesting, Where is the islamic source to back your claim “Necessity cancels Obligation” makes allowance for sodomy.
(…)
I think you will find that “Necessity cancels Obligation” applies to eating pork and and missing prayers”
Do you get it now, dunce? You don’t get to say “where’s your source for that” if you’re going to say “what you’re saying is true”. But you’re a petty, little muslim troll who must throw everything at me, no matter if it blows up on your face.
And, of course, it doesn’t matter if that concept applies to eating haram food and missing prayers because that doesn’t exclude other actions, as the fatwa proved.
Good God, you’re really head-banging the concrete too hard.
Semeru says
Necessity Removes Restriction
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/everything/thelawful.html
Raymond has proved that fatwa is real well beyond any reasonable doubt. But you’re not one to have reasonable doubts, are you?
No he has not, The fatwah traces back to a forum, there are no links or reference to verify that there was ever a fatwah.
Nonse said Herre’s the problem, dunce: your alleged “source” of the so-called “hoax” dates back to August 28, 2009. Raymond first published about that fatwa on July 12, 2009:
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/sodomy-for-the-sake-of-islam/
Ibrahim did not write the article July 12, 2009, but July 12, 2012
Ho Ho Ho
Angemon says
So, dunce? Where your evidence that “Necessity cancels Obligation” does not apply to the sodomy fatwah?
Semeru says
So, dunce? Where your evidence that “Necessity cancels Obligation” does not apply to the sodomy fatwah?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ5XgtvoNgg
The video proves nothing
Neither you or Ibrahim can verify that the text in the video is a fatwah
The source of the text is several arabic forums, Not one of them give a link to the original source where it can be verified
Angemon says
The dunce posted:
“The video proves nothing
Neither you or Ibrahim can verify that the text in the video is a fatwah
The source of the text is several arabic forums, Not one of them give a link to the original source where it can be verified”
Here’s the thing, dunce. Once again you’re arguing against yourself. The video mentions a fatwa on a website. If, like you say, the text can be sourced to a website, then the text exists. It’s that simple.
Semeru says
So much for the video
Muslim cleric in UK probe after ‘vile’ Fadak TV rants
A satellite TV station based in suburban England is being investigated after allegations it broadcast a Muslim cleric’s “hate sermons” and “vile rants” to audiences across the Middle East.
The UK’s independent television regulator says it has launched an investigation into Fadak TV, which was founded by Sheikh Yasser al-Habib.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/media/television-and-radio/2014/04/22/Suburban-Muslim-cleric-in-UK-probe-after-vile-rants-on-Fadak-TV.html
Angemon says
The dunce posted:
“So much for the video
Muslim cleric in UK probe after ‘vile’ Fadak TV rants
A satellite TV station based in suburban England is being investigated after allegations it broadcast a Muslim cleric’s “hate sermons” and “vile rants” to audiences across the Middle East.
The UK’s independent television regulator says it has launched an investigation into Fadak TV, which was founded by Sheikh Yasser al-Habib.
http://english.alarabiya.net/en/media/television-and-radio/2014/04/22/Suburban-Muslim-cleric-in-UK-probe-after-vile-rants-on-Fadak-TV.html”
Like last time you posted that link, nothing in there proves that the fatwah is false. It doesn’t even mention the fatwah. So the video is still valid, and nothing in it disproves that the islamic state issued a fatwah saying is permissible for the mujahid to enjoy young boys in the absence of women. You know, much like other muslims do, for example, in Pakistan.
Semeru says
Here’s the thing, dunce. Once again you’re arguing against yourself. The video mentions a fatwa on a website.
No I did not mention webste, I mentioned Forum
A commentator posted the text claiming it was a fatwah, but he did not post any links so that it can be verified
Angemon says
More from the dunce:
“No I did not mention webste, I mentioned Forum”
And where is this forum located? On a book somewhere?
“A commentator posted the text claiming it was a fatwah, but he did not post any links so that it can be verified”
So you lied when you allegedly linked to the text in the forum or are you lying now? Not that it really matters, as Raymond proved the fatwah is true, and nothing in it disproves that the islamic state issued a fatwah saying is permissible for the mujahid to enjoy young boys in the absence of women. You know, much like other muslims do, for example, in Pakistan.
semeu says
PISS OF WANKER
Angemon says
The dunce posted:
“PISS OF WANKER”
Make me, dunce. Or better yet, if you don’t like what I post then ignore it or GTFO. But before that, do point out where in that article says that the sodomy fatwah was a lie, explain how you can say there’s no source for it even though you allegedly pinpointed its source, and then explain why that’s related to the fatwah allowing IS jihadis to rape young boys, like the Afghanis have been doing for centuries.
ninetyninepct says
A true and factual account of Mohammed. Shocking. Includes testimony of oral sex with little boys.
http://crossmuslims.blogspot.ca/2010/12/perfect-man-of-islam.html