A harbinger of things to come. “Argument between Shia, Sunni Muslims escalates,” Bowling Green Daily News, May 27, 2015:
In a scene that has played out on a large scale in the Middle East for centuries, a Sunni Muslim and a Shia Muslim conflict escalated Sunday during a heated discussion about religion.
A Bowling Green man who is a Shia Muslim told the Bowling Green Police Deparmtent [sic] that another man, a Sunni, assaulted him during an argument over their respective religious beliefs.
The division of the Sunnis and Shias dates back to the death of the Muslim prophet Muhammad. The majority Sunni believe the leader of the Islamic community should be elected from those qualified. Shia Muslims believe the leader should remain within Muhammad’s family. Shia Muslims, which make up about 10 percent of Muslims worldwide, have followed a line of Imams who they believe were appointed by Muhammad or God.
The man who reported the incident did not have visible injuries but told police he was attacked and pushed to the ground.
The alleged assailant, whose name was redacted from police records pending prosecution, made statements to police about “taking care of business like a man” if the victim continued to cause problems for him. He denied that anything physical occurred during the argument.
A witness told police that the two men were arguing over religious beliefs with the assailant criticizing the beliefs of the Shia Muslim man, and the argument progressed to a shoving match….
somehistory says
Did either one draw a cartoon? No? No free speech for you, fellow! No freedom of religion, either!
Sabri S. says
No need to worry…America will be a fully SUNNI muslim nation,
not a muslim one. Virtually all new converts and immigrants to
America are sunni. Sharia h law must prevail over the current legal
And criminal injustice system…no, this is not a typo!
Linde Barrera says
To Sabri S- You must have been a big fan of that great tv show from the 1960’s called “The Twilight Zone”. It had lots of twists, lots of suspense, lots of scenarios that could have been real…if the viewer suspended belief. So Sabri, since you are making predictions, what will the dollar be worth to the Euro in 2016? And how is Elvis, have you seen him lately?
xxxChurch100 says
Dear Linde Barrera , I hope I am not too long winded BUT ,
What a fascinating point you raise , the value of the Euro in 2016 [ and no I haven’t seen Elvis ] All fiat currencies will be greatly diminished due to the imminent crash of the once mighty USD in or around Sept 2015 .
The Euro will be particularly exposed to this crash , it was ill conceived in the first place and as we have observed in the recent passed is under big pressure to ” bail out ” many of the signatories of this monopoly currency, e.g. Ireland , Portugal Greece. Great Britain. is no longer great it is in so much debt …. it is a bankrupt also .
May I offer some personal advise ??
Get as much paper money as you can , cash in ALL your savings, sell any shares and place them into tangible assets , gold and silver bullion …. all non perishable house hold items you can get your hands on .These will be the worlds’ new currency for quite a while …. paper money will be in hyper inflation .The treasuries will try and print more money to get out of the position but history has shown this does not work .
The bottom line is this , the USA has maxed out its credit cards and cannot pay even a fraction of the accumulating / compounding interest …and is just about to fall over and the rest of the world will be collateral damage .
Here is the short answer to your question .
Q: Think about it , if you or I did this on our credit cards what would our creditors do ?
A; Shut down all of your credit and call in the debt plus accumulating interest and if you couldn’t pay what would happen ?
God Bless .
Linde Barrera says
To xxxChurch100- Thank you for your response, even though it has a gloom and doom tone to it, which you are probably right. I would make it a law that any person who runs for Congress or the presidency and vice Presidency of the USA must have studied AND passed a minimum of 12 credits in economics. This way the folks who get elected won’t give away the store. Also, are you the “pen name” of Sabri S? I thought I was writing to him, but your writing makes it appear that you are him. Or maybe her? Anyway, it’s fun to have a pen name. But since I always wanted to be famous, I write under my real name.
somehistory says
You make a big mistake. My comment doesn’t show worry. I was mocking the two! Mocking, understand….mocking the two muslims for fighting over a fake *prophet.* Fighting over which one worships satan the devil the best…in the most correct way. You fight wherever you are because you can’t get along with anybody…not even each other. To non-muslims, you are all alike. And all of you live your *injustice* in every aspect of your lives. You are all miserable….that is one of the reasons you are not content to stay in your home country….the little spot in the desert where the child raper lived and murdered and worshipped satan. That’s your home country. Taking other countries by force, murdering, raping and enslaving your way across the earth is injustice.
It doesn’t matter to the True God if you call yourself a sunni or a shia….He is against both kinds of devil worshipping. And it doesn’t matter to humans who are not muslim. sunni…shia…all the same. Following the awful commands of a raper of children, murderer of anyone who disagreed with him, thief….and
albert says
Hello somehistory, this isn’t a reply just an addendum to your post……and a liar, slave trader, genocidal maniac and sometime cross dresser……..although I don’t particularly have strong feelings for or against cross dressers…….if you’ve ever watched the Anna Barnhardt videos on youtube I think perhaps he had a ” Thursday club ” like his follower Awlaki.
john spielman says
Dear Sabri S; what you say about the US, shows you don’t realize that you’re full of SHIITE yourself! muhammed pbuh* was a demon possessed mass murderer thief liar misogynist and pedophile pervert!
pbuh*- perpetual banishment unto hell!
Paul vs Islamonazism says
A Sunni supremacist – Wow, what a surprise! Shiites slaughter Sunnis like sheep tossing their bodies like trash in the streets or in the rivers and Sunnis return the favor with equal viciousness and savagery. Go back to your coloring book, you’re not fit to be on our planet you idiot.
Oliver says
Paul, the problem is, they ( the Sunnis vs Shites– are not killing each other fast enough, and enough of each other.
They should speed up the pace. Both here in the US and elsewhere. JUST LEAVE THE OTHERS POUT OF THE PICTURE
Mahendra Singh says
The Shias number just about 10-15 percent of the total Muslim population.
They also are not as good fighters as Sunnis, to wit a 15 percent Sunni population
completely overpowered 85 percent Shias during Saddam’s rule. In countries like
where they are just 10 percent of population the Sunninis routinely slaughter Shias
with frightful regularity.
Best to encourage them to fight each other, so that destroy each other.
mortimer says
There is no Shi’ite mosque in Soddy Barbaria’s main cities and no Sunnite mosque in Teheran.
mortimer says
The war in Yemen is between Shi’ites and Sunnis.
Godwin says
So is the war in Syria.
Angemon says
I’m confused: who was the “islamophobe”, and why isn’t this considered an anti-muslim hate crime?
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
He denied that anything physical occurred during the argument.
The gal slated to be our next president doesn’t require physical action to constitute a felony. She signed the OIC draft twice for UN member to make criticizing a religion a crime. I’ll leave it to others to figure out what religion is most likely to be criticized.
RonaldB says
There’s a very inconvenient factor that neither Hillary nor Barack can get around in the US. It’s called the first amendment. But, it’s extremely unseemly for the US State Department to sponsor restrictions on speech for other countries that cannot be implemented in the US.
You can read the fine details in
http://www.amazon.com/Catastrophic-Failure-Blindfolding-America-Jihad-ebook/dp/B00X6GH8PA/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1433530403&sr=1-1&keywords=catastrophic+failure
The author, Stephen Coughlin was, like Robert Spencer, a much sought-after trainer for security personnel charged with protecting the US, and like Robert Spencer, banned from security training in the purge of October 2011 by the present CIA director, John Brennan.
Actually, the situation is even worse. The OIC takes as a basis the Cairo Declaration of Human Rights, which is explicitly based on sharia law. Sharia and Islam do not recognize any religion as legitimate, other than Islam. So, by definition, denigrating, say, Christianity would not trigger a defamation of religion action. Denigrating Jesus may or may not trigger a response, depending on how the day went for the Muslim in charge, since Jesus is a Muslim prophet. But, if you make fun of the divinity of Jesus, you’ll probably be on safe grounds, as Islam considers claims of divinity for anyone to be blasphemy.
So little time, so many details of sharia law to grasp…
G179 says
That’s what I call intra-faith outreach.
Draki says
LOL, that’s another funny picture.
Angemon says
Draki posted:
“LOL, that’s another funny picture.”
I’m going to risk saying that those are shias mimicking their local cleric:
Linde Barrera says
To Angemon- Thank you for referring us to that video with the Shia imam or mullah (I do not know the technical difference) first reading the pages, then shouting out rhythmically, then slapping his head, then being gently pulled off the chair by his bodyguards. And I loved it when some of the bodyguards slapped their heads and shouted too.The crowd went wild! I guess this is the closest thing to a James Brown type of musical concert given by Shias that I will ever see. I give it 4 stars as JW’S “entertainment critic” !!!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
I guess this is the closest thing to a James Brown type of musical concert…
Closer to Rev Jeremiah Wright’s bodyguards doing the monkey walk back and forth across the stage as Barack’s preacher inveighed God *damn* America! to roaring approval from his flock at the roach infested Trinity United Church of Christ is Chicago.
Linde Barrera says
To Alarmed Pig Farmer- Would you let me know where I can see that? I believe you, but I want to show it to my pastor. Thank you for the heads up. Being a free speech c advocate, that pastor can say what he lijes, but I question why he had to say it during a church service, which is supposed to be time set aside for worshipping God. Couldn’t they have done their little show at a coffee hour after the service? I look forward to your reply.
TheBuffster says
That’s hilarious, Angemon!
But it doesn’t look to me like the guys with the Korans on their heads are mimicking that cleric. My guess is that a huge flock of pigeons was flying over and the Muslims were seeking holy protection.
JamesonRocks says
Just moozies acting like moozies…
Why a police report? Why did these good moozies involve secular authorities and criminal law? No local Sharia Law in the moozie community?
Perhaps Bishop 90 Proof from Worcester, Massachusetts, should meet with the two fellows for some dialogue. He could give each a COEXIST bumper sticker.
Victor Redlick says
Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper said that “Such ‘going along to get along’ is not a ‘balanced’ approach, nor a sophisticated one; it is quite simply, weak and wrong.”. He argued it’s within moral relativism that “the seeds of much more sinister notions can be easily planted.” His poignant accusation was directed at Israel’s western critics. Shiites and Sunnis seem to have taken him up on his logical observation to the extent that they are abidingly self-destructing. Hey, whatever destroys terrorism and extremism.
Sam says
Whatever happens Islam will remain a religion of peace. PERIOD
duh_swami says
Not if you’re a filthy kuffar…Then Islam is the religion of war, not peace…But I bet you already know that…
Mirren10 says
”A harbinger of things to come.”
Indeed.
Oliver says
But, but– the other day, HAMAS AND THE ISIS declared war on each other (or, perhaps it was the ISIS declared war on Hamas, which murdered one of their top people)–confusing.
Both, it seems, are the same type ( branch) of Islam, but one is not religious enough.
So, what is that? (besides good news for Israel and free people–especially if they are able to do a good job of killing each other). I mean-is it religious? is it Islamphobia? or, just good news. (also, Hezbollah called for other Lebanese Muzzies to join them in fighting ISIS. again-if they can kill enough (or all-or is that too much to hope for) of each other, to make the world a better place.
No Fear says
The assault is another example of Islamophobia in America.
Shame, America, Shame!
Infidel from Down Under says
Is the crowd wearing Korans on their heads to shade them from the sun.?
Well at least we now know those Korans are good for something
Wellington says
Bad enough Sunnis and Shiites have been quarreling, harming and killing each other across the pond for well over a thousand years, but, God Damn it, now that it’s come to Kentucky, it’s become real personal like. In Kentucky for Christ’s sake! Henry Clay must be turning in his grave.
Sick of Sunnis. Sick of Shiites. Sick of Islam.
Islam is a burden to all the world and the most screwed up religion of all time (no contest actually). And whatever’s the matter with the world it is an absolute guarantee it’s nothing Islam can fix. In fact, a good deal the matter with the world is precisely because Islam exists.
I need a beer. No wait, I think I’ll have a shot of Kentucky Bourbon instead.
Cecilia Ellis says
Wellington, I love all your posts! Indeed, I look for your comments on every article. As for your choice of Kentucky Bourbon, I think I will just settle for Christian Brothers brandy. Have a great day!
Wellington says
You have a great day too, Cecilia. And not a bad choice at all with Christian Brothers brandy. Take care.
Alex says
Brilliant post, Wellington, and I say that as an ex Muslim.
Linde Barrera says
To Alex- Thank you for your comment to Wellington where you say “Brilliant post Wellington, and I say that as an ex-Muslim”. I am always very interested in learning why any individual decided to leave Islam, if you can reveal your reason, of course. If not, I won’t be offended. Privacy is important to many people here and I do respect that. (I always wanted to be famous, so I post with my real name.) Also, do you think it is possible to outlaw Islam in a western country like the US? I know several very nice Muslims who are kind, peaceful, generous. They are not liars and they know that “Kill the infidels” is in their religion, they just, thank God, don’t act upon it. Would love to hear from you, even if you decline. Thank you. PS: I am a Christian lady and I will never convert to Islam.
Champ says
sunni vs shia …
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-y3uY8S0dCv0/Ut-hkWsz64I/AAAAAAAAJ1Y/OXed3Vb7Ssk/s1600/11-1-2014+-+Brothers+Fight.jpg
feel the looove! ..sarc :-/
marc says
It’s just another joooo conspiracy (Abdullah ibn Saba) making the shia and sunni argue with each other, we are that powerful.
Champ says
Speed reading, mohammedan style …
Another: why didn’t *I* think of that, gosh they’re always coming up with such new and innovative idea!!
/sarc
PRCS says
“a Sunni Muslim and a Shia Muslim conflict escalated Sunday during a heated discussion about religion”
Really?
Were they engaged in a heated discussion about Judaism? Christianity? Mormonism? Sikhism? Buddhism?
That line should read, “”a Sunni Muslim and a Shia Muslim conflict escalated Sunday during a heated argument about Islam“
Cornflake says
I concur, well said.
Stan says
I strongly believe that we, we in the civilized world that is, should encourage this. Hopefully the argument would end with the death of one or both.
Oliver says
Both– and their entire extended families. (death, that is; second best- they leave for a peaceful place like Iran; Syria or Pakistan).
Ronald Dumont says
Islamist are still living a secular ideological war between the Sunni and Shia sects for the last 1250 years!
An Islamist civil war!
We are a mere distraction to be subjugated, enslaved, and murdered in cold blood!
Caveman says
One cannot critique islam; so what are we to do in this case? Is there more then one islam? Can they decide themselves? What if there are more differences? Two islams, three islams, four islams; five islams? Shock horror! There might be even more! Are they all true? That will make a nice conversation. Which one is the Left MSM defending; supporting one automatically denies all the others. There is no god there is no allah there are no ghosts or djinns elves or fairies; it’s 2015 get used to it.