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Obama still secretly backing Muslim Brotherhood as “moderate” alternative to Islamic State and al-Qaeda

Jun 5, 2015 11:47 am By Robert Spencer

ObamanoteThe Islamic State, al-Qaeda and the Muslim Brotherhood all share the same goal: the imposition of Sharia over as much territory as possible, and ultimately over the whole world. But the Muslim Brotherhood is not working toward this goal with overt violence (except when it is), and so as far as Obama is concerned, it is “moderate.”

“Obama secretly backing Muslim Brotherhood,” by Bill Gertz, Washington Times, June 3, 2015 (thanks to Anne Crockett):

President Obama and his administration continue to support the global Islamist militant group known the Muslim Brotherhood. A White House strategy document regards the group as a moderate alternative to more violent Islamist groups like al Qaeda and the Islamic State.

The policy of backing the Muslim Brotherhood is outlined in a secret directive called Presidential Study Directive-11, or PSD-11. The directive was produced in 2011 and outlines administration support for political reform in the Middle East and North Africa, according to officials familiar with the classified study.

Efforts to force the administration to release the directive or portions of it under the Freedom of Information Act have been unsuccessful.

White House National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan declined to comment on PSD-11. “We have nothing for you on this,” she said.

The directive outlines why the administration has chosen the Muslim Brotherhood, which last year was labeled a terrorist organization by the governments of Saudi Arabia, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates as a key vehicle of U.S. backing for so-called political reform in the Middle East. Saudi Arabia in recent months appears to be moderating its opposition to the Brotherhood in a bid to gain more regional support against pro-Iran rebels in Yemen.

The UAE government also has labeled two U.S. affiliates of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Council on American-Islamic Relations and the Muslim American Society, as terrorist support groups. Both groups denied the UAE claims. Egypt is considering imposing a death sentence on Mohamed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood-backed former president who was ousted in military coup in July 2013.

Critics of the administration’s strategy say the Brotherhood masks its goals and objectives despite advocating an extremist ideology similar to those espoused by al Qaeda and the Islamic State, but with less violence. The group’s motto includes the phrase “jihad is our way.” Jihad means holy war and is the Islamist battle cry.…

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Filed Under: Al-Qaeda, Barack Obama, Featured, Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh), Muslim Brotherhood, United States Tagged With: Presidential Study Directive-11, PSD-11


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  1. Angemon says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 11:55 am

    Oh, for f***’s sake. The islamic state and al-qaeda are offshoots of the MB. They have the same goals but different strategies to achieve it. How is funding the source of “extremism” of any help to combat “extremism”? Why not just pass a law forcing everyone in America to convert to islam, pledge allegiance to the islamic state and just be done with it? That seems to be Obama’s endgame, and it would certainly combat “extremism” – the people who want to kill you for not following their religion would have no reasons to kill you if you were to start following their religion.

    This goes beyond stupidity and naivety. Why is that man not on trail for treason?

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 11:57 am

      He’s not on trial cuz he’s good on TV.

    • Angemon says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 11:57 am

      Also, where is the GOP on this? Didn’t they try to have Clinton impeached for getting a BJ on the Oval Room? What’s holding them back now?

      • Joseph says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 12:23 pm

        @ Angemon
        Clinton was impeached because he didn’t “share”
        OL’slimo on the other hand is probably telling them on how rich and powerful they will become once the destruction of America is complete.
        MOST of the politicians (if the truth came out) could/should be tried for treason(aiding the enemy).

      • Shane says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 3:47 pm

        If the GOP tried to impeach Obama, you would have riots in every major city in the USA that would make the Balitimore riots look like play time. Obama’s peeps will riot, loot, and burn down our cities if the GOP tries to impeach him.

        • Don McKellar says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 4:43 pm

          That is exactly what would happen, Shane. It wouldn’t matter how traitorous or illegal what he did was, nor how much it harmed or cost America. He could outdo Nixon (which he probably has by some margin if some evidence could be gathered properly) and they would go crazy rioting in the streets, burning everything in sight. Frankly, I think that some of the fear of this is reflected in the MSM’s kid glove handling of him.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 7:05 pm

          There might be riots, but we can’t let a pack of thugs prevent us from removing a dangerous POTUS from office. The law is the law.

          If Iran gets nukes, which they will under Obama’s watch, the World will never be the same again, and a ton of innocent people will die, including perhaps all of Israel.

          I’ll take Biden any day over Obama.

        • gungadin says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 6:20 am

          I think Shane you’ve hit the nail squarely on its head.

      • Firebug says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 8:23 pm

        American politics confuse me. It’s supposed to be the land of the free, yet you can vote for only two parties.

        What?

        • Joseph Procopio says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 11:37 pm

          Not factually true. There are numerous political parties in the US. For example, Progressive, Libertarian, Green, etc.

          It is true, however, that two parties, Republican and Democrat, have been historically dominate. In the distant past other parties, antecedents of the above, have dominated, e.g. Whigs, Federalists, Bull Moose…

          One can vote for any party or even write-in a candidate.

    • traci94 says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 4:52 pm

      I agree! Why the heck isn’t this man tried for treason?? He has ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, who have been labeled a terrorist organization, isn’t this clearly aiding and abetting our enemies? I’ve been writing to my congressmen and others, begging them to do something about him., obviously to no avail. Not only does he have ties to the Brotherhood, but he has placed people with Muslim Brotherhood ties in high level positions in our government. Additionally, he wants to give Iran $50 billion as a “sign on” bonus! This, to me, is also aiding and abetting our enemies. I am outraged that no one is holding him accountable; I thought this is one of the responsibilities of Congress., to presidents, especially rogue ones like this, accountable for his actions. It’s pathetic that he can get away with all that he is.

      • quotha raven says

        Jun 6, 2015 at 5:11 am

        Traci – Catch up! The Muslim Brotherhood WAS indeed declared a terrorist organization, but the Obama administration declared them NOT a terrorist organization, pursuant to the chummy, cozy relationship we now have with them! Just like that. Saying makes it so, right? Right. Cheers! Quotha

      • gungadin says

        Jun 6, 2015 at 6:26 am

        @traci94 You are not the only one who has been writing to your Congressman. I too have been doing the same and calling their offices. I receive in return their “form letter” with all the standard BS they throw out at the voters with NO MENTION at all of my calls or contact.

        I guess they –the Congress –wont move until there’s hundreds of people marching on DC with torches burning and pitchforks on high !!

        What a sorry bunch of spineless individuals….

    • Scott says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 11:22 pm

      Perhaps BHO’s real agenda is covered up by his directive.
      The MSM sure is helping him….

    • gungadin says

      Jun 6, 2015 at 6:18 am

      To answer your question, he’s not on trial for treason because there doesn’t exist anyone with the backbone in our Congress to go after this guy…..They’re all afraid of being called “racist” ….you would think by this time after six years with this clown in office that word would run off their backs like water on the down of a duck.

    • PE says

      Jun 6, 2015 at 8:39 am

      Amen to that I have a suggestion which I posted below.

  2. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 11:55 am

    Hey, when the Mo-Bro-Hood enthusiasts gang raped that blonde ABC reporter in Tahrir Square a few years back with everybody filming it on their cell phones, the gubmint somehow failed to gather any evidence. Is rape ok? If it is, is gang rape ok? Has President Barack Hussein castigated Egypt for its lackadaisical effort on the rape? Will we make solving this felony crime a condition of support for the ‘Hood?

    Probably not, in light of the fact that the president’s chief adviser is a longstanding member of the Mo-Sis-Hood. And no reason for optimism on criminal enforcement given that Prez Barry swept under the rug fact that Ambassador Stevens was gang raped mano-a-mano as he lay dying in Benghazi.

    Gang rape gang rape gang rape. With the Global Jihad, it’s one big cluster you-know-what and all Infidels are being mentally and financially gang raped.

    • spot on says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 2:26 pm

      Maybe B.O. is reaching out to his father or his grandfather for his self image or something as explained in polite TV conversation. Yeah, really.

      What I think is B.O.hates all white Americans and Christian black Americans. The Muslim brotherhood hates them too. It is a “Birds of a feather” situation with B.O. and the Muslims. B.O. is doing something that will screw his enemies and benefit him and his Muslim friends.

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 2:32 pm

        “What I think is B.O.hates all white Americans and Christian black Americans”

        So Obama is a Muslim who hates white American Muslims? Somehow your comment does not seem spot on.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 4:39 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          ““What I think is B.O.hates all white Americans and Christian black Americans”

          So Obama is a Muslim who hates white American Muslims? Somehow your comment does not seem spot on.”

          And where exactly in there spot on says Obama is a muslim? The answer is, “nowhere”. In fact, spot on goes to say “It is a “Birds of a feather” situation with B.O. and the Muslims”.

          How should I put this? Your last response is so “embematic” of your inability to “read for comprehension” that I will just leave it at that. Or not.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 7:41 am

          Hi Angemon,
          “So Obama is a Muslim who hates white American Muslims?”

          It was a question, not a statement. I don’t see an answer from spot on and that is fine, he has no obligation to answer my questions…just thought he might care to.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 8:35 am

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “It was a question, not a statement.”

          A loaded question, one that no one in good faith would derive from spot on’s post. But if one wanted to smear someone by associating him with a conspiracy theory…

        • spot on says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 9:57 am

          Stardusky, You want to argue over my political hyperboli. OK. Maybe B.O. like the .0001% of Whites that are Muslims. So what.

          With hyperboli, if the shoe fits, you wear it. Obviously you adore B.O. and I do not. That is the message here. You always fail to get the message.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 5:48 pm

        I’ll tellya a story, Spot:

        Eden Prairie High School, the perennial sports powerhouse in prep sports, also boasts a huge contingent of Somali students, thanks to all the “refugees” imported from that hellhole during the ’80s and ’90s. Expenses have skyrocketed, cuz the school has a program where teachers tag with a single student all day if they have problems adjusting to the environment. So I hear stories from students about black Somali kids walking down the halls with a young white woman carrying a clipboard.

        Anyway, the Somalis hang by themselves in a stairwell between classes, as do real black Americans (rare as they are here). So once a year during springtime the football players take a pass down the Somali stairwell slapping them up side the head to keep their scowling faces in line. The Somalis are always scowling, never happy, and it bums out the regular kids, who say, hey, why are we in high school, to have fun!

        But they’ve had real violent episodes where the black American unload on the Somalis for real, as in Eden Prairie Police real, the occasional ambulance real. The black kids have always hated them, and the Somalis have always returned the hate right back.

        So much for black solidarity. H. Rap Brown wouldn’t be pleased.

        • RonaldB says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 7:23 pm

          My guess is that the Somali kids find themselves deeply over their heads with the requirements of the school work.

          The black kids (rightly) see the Somalis as competitors for affirmative action resources, not to mention as just out-and-out aliens.

          As you imply, the Somalis should never have been brought in in the first place. They are unable to adapt, and will carry around an anger at being strangers in an alien culture they cannot fully master. Their one avenue to self-esteem will be fundamentalist Islam.

        • spot on says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 10:12 am

          Alarmed, It is good to know what is happening there with the Somalis.

          B.O. is exacerbating every problem we have. Some say that the left is trying to turn America into a Banana Republic. That is as good as good a description as any.

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 6, 2015 at 10:11 am

        Hi spot on,
        Ok, fair enough, you were exaggerating a bit to make a point. It’s true, if we always stopped to include a long list of qualifiers to every sentence it would be very tedious.

        According to a google response:
        Racially, thirty percent of Muslim Americans report their race as white, 23% as black, 21% as Asian, 6% as Hispanic and 19% as other or mixed race.Mar 26, 2014

        Of course, “white” means different things to different people. I think the percentage is higher than .000000001%, but again, exaggerating a bit to make a point is not the end of the world 🙂

        • spot on says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 1:50 pm

          Stardusky,

          “What I think is B.O. hates all white Americans and Christian black Americans. The Muslim brotherhood hates them too. It is a “Birds of a feather” situation with B.O. and the Muslims. B.O. is doing something that will screw his enemies and benefit him and his Muslim friends.” Posted by Spot On

          While I engage in hyperbole with regard to politics sometimes, the above quote from me is probably more truth than hyperbole. I am sure if a white has submitted him or her self to Allah, that B.O. would give him or her a pass. If there is a small percentage of whites in the US that are Muslim, so be it. (1-2% of the US are Muslims, and if 10-20 percent of those Muslims are white than we are looking at some very small numbers.) B.O. is extremely vindictive toward his enemies and he considers Muslims his friends. He is also anti-Semitic. While he claims to be a Christian, he is actually a Marxist. Have you studied Hitler, he also loved Muslims and was very anti-Semitic. B.O. also emulates Communists and they are some of his true friends.

          You acknowledge that you adore B.O. (since you do not dispute this). I assume that you also have many of the same goals or desires as B.O.. This must be why you rarely make much sense with your messaging. It is hard to cover your true feelings as you interact with intelligent people here. Sometimes I am busy and let thing slip by. You know, B.O. must be difficult to defend since he screws up everything, notwithstanding his other obvious faults.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 12, 2015 at 7:47 am

          ” I am sure if a white has submitted him or her self to Allah, that B.O. would give him or her a pass.”
          Drivel

          “He is also anti-Semitic”
          Drivel

          .”While he claims to be a Christian, he is actually a Marxist.”
          Jesus said to give your money to the poor, pay your taxes to a tyrant, a rich man cannot go to heaven…

          “Have you studied Hitler, he also loved Muslims and was very anti-Semitic”
          Particularly stupid drivel

          .”B.O. also emulates Communists ”
          Drivel

          “B.O. must be difficult to defend since he screws up everything,”
          Riggggttt, like all the economic indicators up since Jan 2009, Osama Bin Laden, no major attacks on the homeland, more people covered for health care, relatively few US military casualties…

          …hence my assertion that the average JW poster makes critics of Islam look like yokels .

  3. American says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:00 pm

    I guess the Muslim Brotherhood is the politically correct way to overthrow America and dominate the world by Islam, as opposed to the more obvious IS and Al-Qaeda approaches. Doesn’t make the end objective any less evil. Write your Congressmen, demand that the Muslim Brotherhood be declared a terrorist organization.

  4. Thomas says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    The enemy of my enemy is not my friend.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 12:34 pm

      The enemy of my enemy is probably still my enemy. If he’s a Moslem, drop the probably part.

  5. Stardusty Psyche says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    “Efforts to force the administration to release the directive or portions of it under the Freedom of Information Act have been unsuccessful.”
    “White House National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan declined to comment on PSD-11. “We have nothing for you on this,” she said.”

    Then how does the Washington Times know what the wording of the document is?

    No sources are cited, no text of the document is provided, and nobody in the article even claims to have read it at all.

    Sounds more like pure rumor than any kind of actual journalism by the Washington Times.

    • somehistory says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 12:40 pm

      They don’t want their *sources* to “dry up”….It’s a secret document and the wh wants to keep it that way. No one is going to come forward and say openly…that would be sticking a neck out for the bro hood to whack off.
      Remember Woodward and Bernstein? Sources are sometimes secret sources, much like the secrets they are revealing…due to necessity.

      The proof for you is this line; “White House National Security Council spokeswoman Bernadette Meehan declined to comment on PSD-11. “We have nothing for you on this,” she said.”

      • Wellington says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 12:58 pm

        Just to add to what you wrote, somehistory, this story ran almost a year ago in Human Events (July 7th issue) and it appears that much has been pieced together from other documents obtained through the Freedom Of Information Act or because yet other documents were never classified in the first place.

        I might also comment that I am not in the least surprised that Stardusty Psyche would be as skeptical as he has been here. Fits a pattern.

        • Starddusty Psyche says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 1:11 pm

          Hi Wellington,
          Indeed, I am skeptical of unsubstantiated claims whoever makes them.

          What exactly is your problem with that kind of skepticism?

          “it appears that much has been pieced together from other documents obtained through the Freedom Of Information Act ”
          The article makes no such claim, only that attempts to use the Freedom of Information Act have been unsuccessful.

          If the Washington Times has documents obtained legally that reference the secret document contents then they should print those references or at least cite them. They failed to do so, which is pretty shoddy journalism.

        • somehistory says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 1:26 pm

          Thank you, Wellington.
          I had read that, but as I couldn’t recall just when or where…memory not what it once was and not even perfect then…I hesitated to write it. But your ref refreshed my memory. I also read Tom Fitton’s articles (Judicial Watch) and he finds out quite a lot more than some others due to his law suits on FOIA requests.

          Hope your weekend is a swell one. :}

        • Angemon says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 4:47 pm

          Wellington posted:

          “I might also comment that I am not in the least surprised that Stardusty Psyche would be as skeptical as he has been here. Fits a pattern.”

          Right? On another topic, SP said Obama did a “smart move” by having large stockpile of equipment in Kuwait in case a “full scale ground invasion becomes truly necessary”. Never mind that Kuwait finances ISIS because, according to him, “we don’t have to trust the Kuwaitis much, we dominate their little country militarily and use it as a military base under our control.”

          His purpose as the mouthpiece of Sauron should be obvious to anyone here. Oh, but I did chuckle at his idea that “countries like Saudi Arabia … will continue to fight our enemies themselves on their dollar”. Saudi Arabia is another of ISIS financers – 92% of Saudis believe the islamic state conforms to islamic law so on what basis would the remaining 8% fight them? But, according to SP, what happens is that “even though the Saudi government attacks our enemies with the military hardware they bought from us there are also elements within Saudi Arabia actively working against our interests”. And, of course, he objects anything he doesn’t specifically say word by word, letter by letter, and attacks the comprehension capabilities of anyone deriving something from his words, but that didn’t stop him from claiming spot on said Obama was a muslim, even though spont on didn’t and nothing on his post hinted at it.

          I think SP just might give voeg a run for his money when it comes to attack JW, JW’ers, CJs and the whole CJ movement.

        • Wellington says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 5:30 pm

          Do your own damn research, Star Boy. Go to Human Events, the Al-Hewar organization, etc. Do you really want to argue that PSD-11 doesn’t exist? Consider what somehistory wrote in his 12:40 P.M. post above, i.e., a spokeswoman for the NSC not denying that such a document exists but instead saying “We have nothing for you on this.” And just consider how much interference Obama has run for the Muslim Brotherhood already. Hell, there are a lot of Muslims more skeptical of the MB than the current POTUS is.

          Frankly, I am suspicious of your intentions here at JW. I’m not certain of your motives but I am certain that you’re not an “above-the-board player.” I’m not alone in thinking this I assure you.

        • Mirren10 says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 7:00 am

          To Angemon;

          “The mouth

        • Mirren10 says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 7:44 am

          That should be,

          To Angemon:

          ”The mouthpiece of Sauron.” What an excellent description !

          My tablet sometimes does weird things. Sorry about that.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 8:33 am

          I know that feeling, Mirren 😉 I also use devices with touchscreens. Heck, even using my laptop I sometimes accidentally tap the touchpad and post before time.

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 1:03 pm

        Hi somehistory,
        By that standard anybody can print anything without any mention of any sources.

        Pure rumor.

        Journalists use terms like “a white house staffer said” or “a person with access to the document said” or “according ;leaked documents” or other such statements claiming to have a source who actually read the document in question but chooses to be unnamed.

        No such attribution appeared in the article. Nobody even claimed to have any source of any kind who actually read the document.

        “We have nothing for you on this,”
        proves only that the white house will not discuss a secret document.

        The Washington Times has nothing on this either.

        • somehistory says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 1:21 pm

          So you say. But you have a *record* here and it says a whole heck of a lot about your *sources*.
          See Wellington’s comment below mine. I see you didn’t address what he said. That lack of address also says a lot.

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 1:52 pm

        Hmmm…looks like my comments to Wellington went to internet oblivion…

        Yes, I am skeptical of unsubstantiated claims whoever makes them, is that a problem for you?

        If the times has some documents that reference the secret document then they should print those references or at least cite them. They failed to do so.

        They only mention that use of the FoIA was unsuccessful. So, you can speculate about whatever you want but it is just more rumors about rumors.

        Very shoddy journalism.

        Oh, and is there something specific you don’t care for about my “record”?

        • somehistory says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 2:58 pm

          Your *record* of comments just seem to be targeted to take away from the countering of the islam jihad. Read back over them for yourself and see just how you communicate what you think as opposed to what the articles say and what others believe.

          And, if you recall…if you were paying attention then…back when morsi was going to be president…dictator…of Egypt, he had much *help* from h clinton on how to win and win with whatever means available…much fraud committed in that country and he had help in knowing how to use it to the best of his chances….Now..just who, who, who was h. clinton’s boss? Who wanted so badly for morsi…and the bro-hood to win…that he sent clinton down to Egypt to instruct him/them on how to win? Well, this same individual has been against the government of Egypt ever since morsi was ousted, even though morsi was having Copts killed right, left and in the middle, burning churches and imprisoning anyone who even seemed to disagree….and raping little boys whose fathers voted for the non-bro hood guys.
          The writing is on the wall (for any who do not know from where that saying comes, read Daniel in the Bible…it was written to a ruler of the world’s empire to signal death and defeat to the ruler and his armies) and the truth is coming out…even though *whistle blowers* are dealt with very harshly…which is against the Law.
          Who would wish to be listed as a *source* or even someone saying they wanted to stay *anon* because they weren’t *authorized to speak* if they knew what the boss man would do to them wasn’t in the form of a promotion and raise in pay?

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 3:20 pm

          Hi somehistory,
          “Your *record* of comments just seem to be targeted to take away from the countering of the islam jihad”

          We don’t need half ass rumors about secret documents, calls to area bomb population centers, or a lot of the ridiculous arguments made here. They only set back the cause of exposing Islam for the dangerous and fascistic ideology that it is.

          I don’t quite know where you were going with Clinton and Morsi…but I do think Al-Sisi is about the best leader of an Arab state to take power in, well, as long as I am aware of. Al-Sisi spoke out against the Islamic texts very strongly and very publicly, he has locked up thousands of Muslim Brotherhood (hundreds have been executed), he invited the Army Corps of Engineers to help him shut down the smuggling tunnels to Hamas, which our fine commander in chief approved, and Al-Sisi is the first Egyptian president to go to the Christmas mass, where he was greeted with a deeply moving show of appreciation and support by the congregation.

          Real journalists will at least cite something as vague as “insider says” or “according to knowledgeable sources” or make some reference to having a source with bona fide information.

          And if other documents obtained under FoIA support the claim they can certainly be cited.

          Since none of that happened I conclude the Washington Times practiced shoddy journalism in this article.

        • somehistory says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 4:45 pm

          Okay, allow me to try to help you understand *where I was going*.
          morsi ….is….muslim….brother…hood. He was in prison under Mubarak. When o went to Egypt and gave his infamous speech there….in 2009…he made the Egyptian government….the one that outlawed the brother-hood…set special seats in the front row for the brotherhood to sit and hear him speak.
          In 2011, when the arab uprising began in Tunisia, Egypt, etc., and Mubarak was trying to get his country under control, even saying he would step down, ….morsi and others escaped from prison.
          Then….o….who …likes….the brotherhood….sent clinton down to Egypt to ensure morsi would be elected the new president. A monster who had been in prison….because the brotherhood was an org that was banned in Egypt…but whose members o had insisted be seated in the front row for his speech…became dictator with the help of o and clinton and her teaching the brotherhood fraudulent…read *illegal*…ways to win the election.

          The *election* results were read before the votes were counted; at least one little boy was raped because his father voted for another guy….not morsi….and women were threatened with rape if they went to the polls to vote….just some of the wonderful things that happened to put the muslim brotherhood in power in Egypt.

          BTW: very important to remember: osamo bin laden was a member of the bro-hood when it was recommended to him by another member to start al queda and fight the Russians in Afghanistan.
          The brotherhood was begun nearly a hundred years ago and caused a lot of death and trouble in Egypt and everywhere it sent reps. But, o sent clinton down to Egypt to help members of the brotherhood take the government away from those who might have been better at ruling the country.

          When morsi proved just how despicable he is….it didn’t take long…the people decided to get rid of him and, Al Sisi, being already liked by the people, became the president.

          And then….lo and behold…o…refused to recognize his government and told them to give it back to morsi….saying he was the *legitimate* ruler…knowing full well he had committed fraud with clinton’s help to gain the office. And knowing the Egyptian people had gotten rid of morsi and elected Al Sisi.

          As for the other things you wrote: since this is so long, I will attempt to come back. I don’t stay online constantly as I have other things that press upon me to get done and I’m in and out if. I don’t always go back to every thread. But will try to get back.

        • Jack Diamond says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 1:40 pm

          Why is this hard to understand? This engagement with the Brotherhood as the “Islamists we can work with” goes back a long ways, nor is it something invented by Democrats. The British embraced it as well. It reached an apex of sorts, in terms of influence, in the Foreign Policy article written by Robert S. Leiken and Steven Brooke (of the Nixon Center btw) in 2007 which was criminal in its ignorance and provably false (seemingly based on the whispers of war is deceit Muslims into the ears of the authors). Proof the piece was so bad, so harmful, it was reprinted by CAIR on its website as something laudable.

          The thesis was that the Muslim Brotherhood had become a moderate organization committed to democracy and non-violence and was an effective alternative to al Qaeda
          and violent jihadists (the concept of stealth jihad not in the authors’ radar). These bright boy authors therefore favored a strategic partnership with the Brotherhood to promote American interests. They actually state that Brotherhood groups all reject global jihad (in spite of that nasty slogan ‘jihad is our path and death in the name of Allah is our goal”–well, no one really means stuff like that according to bright Western secular academics who know better) and embrace democratic change (not that they might be using a tactic to exploit that democracy, as say the Nazis also did before abolishing it). The authors even suggest that the progressive MB is perfectly willing to recognize Israel. Clearly the Muslim Brotherhood is the answer to all our prayers!

          The late Supreme leader of the MB International, Mohammad Mahdi Akef, said in an interview in 2005 (Asharq Al-Awset, London 11/12/05) ” the Muslim Brotherhood is a global movement whose members cooperate with each other throughout the world, based on the same religious worldview, the spread of Islam until it rules the world…all members of the Muslim Brotherhood in the international arena operate according to a written charter that states that Jihad is the only way to achieve these goals…ours is the largest organization in the world.” And it a secret society whose members are sworn to secrecy (based on al-Banna’s crackpot understanding that secret societies ran the Crusader and Zionist world, revealed yet again in the Hamas Charter).

          Akef has interviews preserved by Memri (2//4/04) saying that the United States
          (proposed strategic partner) is “a satan that abuses the religion (Islam). I expect America to collapse soon. I have complete faith that Islam will invade Europe and America.” Here is Akef on democracy as the Brotherhood understands it: “Sharia is the solution” (and) human rights and democracy will exist under it (>the academic bright boys don’t seem to get Islamic word games with Western concepts) Only Islam is true democracy, American democracy “is corrupt because it wants to destroy the (Islamic) nation, its faith and tradition.” (Al-KArama 9/17/07). An example, he says, America’s attempt to end female genital mutilation in Africa (a “plot to change the Muslim way of life”). Not only Bin Laden but every prominent al Qaeda, beginning with Abdullah Azzam of the Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood, began as Muslim Brothers. The goal of the MB is identical to al Qaeda or ISIS, the only (temporary) difference has been tactics. They certainly showed their true face again in Egypt when they gained power (along with Morsi’s collaborating with al Qaeda).

          The results of all this humbug, embodied by the Obama Administration, manifest in the ruins of the “Arab Spring”.

          The Foreign Affairs article is here:
          https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/2007-03-01/moderate-muslim-brotherhood

          A refutation of the article by Lt. Col. Jonathan Halevi is here:
          http://jcpa.org/article/the-muslim-brotherhood-a-moderate-islamic-alternative-to-al-qaeda-or-a-partner-in-global-jihad/

        • Jack Diamond says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 1:48 pm

          “Foreign Affairs article” it should read.

  6. John C. Barile says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    O, how I long for the day when this charlatan and fool leaves office! Openly and in private, BHO embraces and advances our enemies everywhere. Our world is less safe; our borders, shores, and streets endangered, thanks to Team Obama

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 12:45 pm

      He’ll probably be replaced by Hillary or Jeb. Whoever his replacement is, there will be no improvement of our policy vis a vis Moslems. Sorry to be negative, but this is the political world in which we live.

  7. mortimer says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    If Obama is that naïve about the MB, would he like to buy the Brooklyn Bridge?

    • quotha raven says

      Jun 6, 2015 at 5:36 am

      Mortimer – I have to say that every time I read any JW commenter saying the O is “naive”, I conclude that the writer is naive. O, on the other hand, has been quite clear, absolutely consistent, deceitful, wily and effective in his efforts to be “inclusive” vis a vis the MB. BTW, I have the same reaction when a commenter suggests that O is “stupid” or “uninformed”, as though O is unaware of what he is doing. I don’t think so. Such reactions to O fly in the face of common sense. Cheers! Quotha R

  8. Grumpyoldguy says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    *slaps forehead in mock surprise* Obama supports the MB..?!?

    Support can be both active and passive. I see evidence of both without the article having to convince me of its truth. In Washington, nothing is officially confirmed until after it’s been officially denied.

    Like many others who have read the plans of the MB for America, I wonder if any of the president’s advisers bothered to bring those documents to his attention. The 20 yr. plan the MB outlines, and what they plan to achieve here are available for all to see.

    I suppose Mr. Obama will have to find out about after he sees it in the news…that excuse has worked great the last four or five times he’s used it.

  9. wildjew says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    I have a related question for Jihad Watch readers who champion yourselves historians or amateur historians.

    Had America’s Founders known that a world religion (or the better part of its practitioners) would one day be in a global war with the United States and the West, would the First Amendment (the Free Exercise Clause) have been crafted a bit differently?

    • RonaldB says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 3:47 pm

      “… would the First Amendment (the Free Exercise Clause) have been crafted a bit differently?”

      Very good question.

      I look at it as analogous to the question of whether you could (or should) design a car that’s foolproof regardless of how incompetent the driver is?

      I think the constitution and amendments as written provided adequate protections, given an informed, ethical, and competent government. I don’t think the founders could have imagined the importation of millions of active Muslims. But, once you allow the systematic immigration of citizens dedicated to the destruction of your form of government, is there any way to maintain a government based on individual rights and representation? The only way to maintain a free government is to do away with the representation, like the Turkey of the last century, where it was the responsibility of the military to ensure that a sectarian Islamist government would not be allowed to take office, even if elected.

      I think we would have adequate protections against the actions of Muslims if we interpreted the “free exercise of religion” to be individual and personal rites and rituals, rather than the rights of members of a religion to practice their rituals in the face of property rights and laws governing behavior in public.

      When you have the Supreme Court deciding that a company is subject to damages for not wanting a Muslima in a headscarf representing its image, there’s really not much you can do in terms of a fail-safe provision to ensure individual rights. I’m speaking to the Abercrombie and Fitch decision, of course, where the Supreme Court reinstated the damages liability for discrimination against Muslims, even though the Muslima never claimed a religious exemption. Of course, if she had, she should have been refused, but that’s another argument.

      Our founders said you needed an educated electorate, dedicated to maintaining the republic. Once you lose that, I’m not sure what else you can do.

      • wildjew says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 6:01 pm

        “I think the constitution and amendments as written provided adequate protections, given an informed, ethical, and competent government. I don’t think the founders could have imagined the importation of millions of active Muslims…..”

        Great answer RonaldB. I am only asking. I don’t have an answer to this question. Do you think the conservatives on the court, and their defenders, would argue they exercised judicial restraint in that they deferred to the strict construction of the the civil rights law that was based on a literal reading of the First Amendment? Shouldn’t the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment be modified? Instead counter-jihad activists try to argue (disingenuously I believe) Islam is not a religion. That is nonsense is it not? Not even Spencer argues Islam is not a religion. We might argue Islam is an ideology but isn’t it also a religion according to the definition of religion?

        • Wellington says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 7:48 pm

          Islam is definitely a religion, wildjew, for purposes of the First Amendment, but then so is Satanism. The key does not lie, as many think it does, in denying Islam religious status, bur rather in identifying Islam as a religion which is possessed of profoundly troubling doctrines, like death for apostasy, and which will not be allowed in America.

          In other words, belief is absolutely protected by the First Amendment but certain actions based upon belief are not. Hey, if you want to have the First Church of Satan, go ahead. In America you can do this and probably even get tax-exempt status, but if being a Satanist requires, among other nonsensical things, a human sacrifice once a year, nope, you can’t do that and if you do you will be charged with murder.

          Another reason why the debate about whether Islam is a religion or not is completely off the mark here in America is because secular totalitarian ideologies like Nazism and Marxism are also protected belief systems under the First Amendment. But, once again, certain actions based on these lousy belief systems are not protected under the First Amendment.

          I repeat yet again that the fundamental problem with Islam in America is NOT debating its religious status. This is IRRELEVANT. What is relevant, crucially so, is identifying Islam as a negative. Thereafter, it can still exist in America, just as Marxism and Nazism can, but opprobrium towards it and disallowance by the law of certain actions will have the effect long term of marginalizing it as much as has occurred to Nazism and Marxism, though respecting the latter it is still stupidly alive and well in the most anti-American portion of America——–the American educational system from first grade to graduate school.

        • Huck Folder says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 3:25 am

          Wellington:

          I disagree. I believe that islam is a cult, with LOTS of similarities with Koresh, Georgetown, Moonies and Scientologists.

          However, let’s just call it a POLITICAL SYSTEM with a ‘religious’ veneer.

          Since I’m not aware of any real religion which preaches -SHOUTS AT THE TOP OF IT’S VOICE – from it’s infallible, immutable book, that its goals are WORLD DOMINATION, including the imposition of its ‘political system’ on all the earth’s inhabitants,* I think it’s very much open to interpretation.

          * Qur’an (8:39) – “And fight them until … the religion (worship) will all be for Allah Alone [in the whole of the world ].

        • quotha raven says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 5:48 am

          Wildjew – Islam is a theocracy. Law, culture, politics and religion all rolled up into a nasty system with an imam representing authority (legal, cultural, religious, politically) at the top of every mosque, and, unlike a church or synagogue, every mosque is the center of a Muslim nation, with commitments to expansionism and subjection of dhimmis per Qur’an and no allegiance to the laws and customs of the host land it happens to find itself in. So, while Islam is a religion, that is only one element of a theocracy. Please look up “theocracy” and try to wrap your mind around the concept. It makes a big difference in how one sees Islam. Cheers! QR

        • Wellington says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 12:13 pm

          Huck Folder: Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree about this. Islam is definitely a religion but also a cult and also a political ideology, all three of which are protected by the First Amendment where belief is concerned, but as I already mentioned not necessarily when action upon belief occurs.

          No doubt about it, Islam is iniquitous and a mortal threat to liberty, but that’s why it must finally be described in the negative, especially by the elites in the media, academia and the political realm. Not there yet. Not even close to there yet. Islam, of course, greatly benefits from this continued willful ignorance.

      • RonaldB says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 7:17 pm

        I agree with you that Islam is a religion. A religion is a formal way of relating man to the supernatural, which is certainly what Islam is. We may not like their way of relating, but there it is.

        I do think that “free exercise of religion” needs to have a reasonable interpretation. In the first place, the restriction is on the laws that can be made, so there is no constitutional mandate for Congress to make laws making the free exercise of religion cost-free. In other words, if the Muslima wants to wear her scarf, she can’t get a job in a high-fashion, image-conscious industry, unless she starts a business in fashionable hijabs…which exist, by the way.

        A more ambiguous question is, does the government have the obligation to permit the free exercise of any religion, regardless of its content. For example, the religion of thuggee, thankfully wiped out by the British in India, mandates routine strangulation of victims. Are we prepared to allow strangulation of others for devotees of thuggee?

        Obviously not. The free exercise of religion is what we commonly think of as private practice in the home or place of worship. Religions do not have the right to ignore laws made for public purpose. Religious places of worship are required to follow zoning laws.

        To sum it up, a reasonable interpretation of “free exercise of religion” and a recognition that the First Amendment prevents laws from interfering with the private practice of religious devotion or gatherings, but has no effect on the actions of individuals, who are free to associate or not associate with whom they choose…should provide adequate protections and limitations.

        Once you start getting crazy people making and interpreting the laws…eventually, you’re going to get into a train wreck.

    • somehistory says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 5:01 pm

      Some of those early men knew about islam. They may have thought that others could/would find out if they didn’t already know and be aware of the dangers inherent in allowing adherents into the country. Anyone reading what Adams wrote, and understanding it, would be aware, for sure.

      It may not be well known, but there were Catholics who were turned away when the country was new. That changed, or course.

      If there were not so many people like b ayers, weatherunderground he and his wife founded, already in the country (he’s old, so his trouble-making is not new) and wishing to make as much trouble as possible for the power and control they wish to have, there might be more people aware…maybe even the Supreme Court. But people twist laws. Just as the muslims twist their cult into a *culture* so they can get into schools, they fool others into accepting it, laws are twisted and some foolishly fall for it.

      One cannot know what they might have written more than they did or differently if they had known how foolish some people would be in our time.
      There have been other *religious* practices that have been deemed illegal due to the harm they cause to people, like snake-handling and smoking illegal drugs,etc. These have been in and out of court and some have been denied acceptance into law.
      If they had a snake-handling adherent in the oval office, they might get by with it too.

  10. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:07 pm

    However, the so called “Moderate” Muslim Brotherhood DOES SUPPORT the Islamic State and al-Qaeda.

    This AGAIN IS America’s TYPICAL Obama Administration, apparent Pro Islam, Pro Muslim, “Deceiving Imperial” Potus.

    “Obama still secretly backing Muslim Brotherhood as “moderate” alternative to Islamic State and al-Qaeda”.

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/06/gertz_expose_pentagon_docs_show_obama_supports_muslim_brotherhood.html
    http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/08/02/connections-muslim-brotherhood-islamic-state-ministry-religious-endowments/
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/muslim-brotherhood-cleric-declares-his-support-for-the-islamic-state
    http://www.investigativeproject.org/2581/fbi-chief-muslim-brotherhood-supports-terrorism#
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/exposed-the-muslim-brotherhoodal-qaeda-connection/
    http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/19808 “The Muslim Brotherhood in Yemen supports al-Qaeda against the army”.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/al-qaeda-and-muslim-brotherhood-meet-to-plot-terror-in-egypt/

  11. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:09 pm

    However, the so called “Moderate” Muslim Brotherhood DOES SUPPORT the Islamic State and al-Qaeda.

    This IS America’s TYPICAL Obama Administration, apparent Pro Islam, Pro Muslim, “Deceiving Imperial” Potus.

    “Obama still secretly backing Muslim Brotherhood as “moderate” alternative to Islamic State and al-Qaeda”.

  12. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:10 pm

    http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/06/gertz_expose_pentagon_docs_show_obama_supports_muslim_brotherhood.html
    http://www.dailynewsegypt.com/2014/08/02/connections-muslim-brotherhood-islamic-state-ministry-religious-endowments/
    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/muslim-brotherhood-cleric-declares-his-support-for-the-islamic-state
    http://www.investigativeproject.org/2581/fbi-chief-muslim-brotherhood-supports-terrorism#
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/raymond-ibrahim/exposed-the-muslim-brotherhoodal-qaeda-connection/
    http://english.al-akhbar.com/node/19808 “The Muslim Brotherhood in Yemen supports al-Qaeda against the army”.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/dgreenfield/al-qaeda-and-muslim-brotherhood-meet-to-plot-terror-in-egypt/

  13. Edward says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    What a timely article by Robert Spencer. The gist of this essay about the Muslim’s Brotherhood is very troubling for America. Troubling because this entity has been known to have very dangerous ambitions.

    Repeating the quote: “The group’s motto includes the phrase “jihad is our way.” Jihad means holy war and is the Islamist battle cry.…”

    So far not many 2016 presidential hopefuls have spoken about these approaching threats. The few that have, but do not speak out rightly about it; because of their fears of being labeled racist. However, there is one who has fearlessly come out to talk about the reality of such eventualities. That has been Gov. Rick Perry while in a European tour back in November 2014.

    http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/10/rick-perrys-biggest-advantage-in-2016/381602/

    “Forbearance in the face of vicious ideas and conduct is not tolerance. It is weakness,” he told his audience. – Gov. Rick Perry

    And he continues to strongly assert his responsibilities while in office:

    “But to every extremist, it has to be made clear: We will not allow you to exploit our tolerance, so that you can import your intolerance. We will not let you destroy our peace with your violent ideas. If you expect to live among us, and yet plan against us, to receive the protections and comforts of a free society, while showing none of its virtues or graces, then you can have our answer now: ‘No, not on our watch!’”

    And here are America’s expectations of those who move to America……..’those completely immersing into our legal, language and customs will be welcomed.’

    “You will live by exactly the standards that the rest of us live by. And if that comes as jarring news: Then welcome to civilization.”

    Here are some of Gov. Rick Perry’s presidential tenure policies mandates to become effective on day one! As Perry has said on his video yesterday:

    http://www.c-span.org/video/?326324-1/former-governor-rick-perry-presidential-campaign-announcement

  14. RonaldB says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:25 pm

    It’s not the Muslim Brotherhood part that’s ominous. Obama has consistently supported the Muslim Brotherhood coming to power in the Middle East and gaining influence in the United States.

    The really ominous part is that the US is continuing to plan more active interventions in that region. There is not much daylight between US interventions, and the present governments of Iran, and the states of anarchy and ISIS control in Iraq, Syria, and Libya. Egypt had a dedicated enough military that the Muslim Brotherhood government was kicked out, against the strong opposition of the US.

    In other words, the US has a major responsibility for the death and suffering in the region, Muslim and non-Muslim. My choice for Muslims would be to exclude them and block them out, but emphatically not cause them suffering that they did not bring on themselves. The blundering actions by the US reflect either extreme stupidity or extreme malevolence, one not excluding the other.

    • Edward says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 4:24 pm

      RonaldB says

      “There is not much daylight between US interventions, and the present governments of Iran, and the states of anarchy and ISIS control in Iraq, Syria, and Libya.”

      There you go “The Liberal Mantra”. In your view…..WE are the instigator’s when we want to defend ourselves against the murderous antagonist’s.

      We would be put to shame before our Creator if we continue such cowardice! If you don’t know about our innate attribute to defend ourself’s. Read these bible passages:

      Matthew 24:43 You may be quite sure of this, that if the householder had known at what time of the night the burglar would come, he would have stayed awake and would not have allowed anyone to break through the wall of his house

      Ecclesiastes 3:1, 3 To everything there is a season, and a time for every purpose under the heavens: 2. A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up what is planted; 3. A time to kill (in self defense), and a time to heal…..

      • RonaldB says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 7:38 pm

        I’m not interested in biblical passages. I’m interested in logic and facts.

        The fact is, the US took actions to help depose friendly governments, or governments that were at least no direct threat to the US. The result is ISIS.

        I’ll give you one example. In the 1970’s, Iran was ruled by the Shah of Iran, with US support. The Shah was not a stellar fellow, as he had a terror police, SAVAK, that tortured and killed dissenters. But, the Shah supported a progressive society, supported US policy, was allied with Israel, and made sure the mullahs stayed civil.

        When Jimmy Carter came to the presidency, he withdrew US support from the Shah. This was a big factor in the Iranian revolution, leading to the present religious government. Can you see this as an example of US interference causing both us and the people involved harm?

        Another example is Gaddafi in Libya. Gaddafi had publicly given up chemical weapons, any pretensions to nuclear weapons, and had agreed to stop supporting terrorism. So, he was no threat to the US at all.

        The US supported the rebels against Gaddafi, giving them arms and training. Libya is now a vast anarchy, except for the parts under ISIS control.

        I’m assuming you can follow a logical argument, so I’m presenting one to you, rather than respond in kind, to where you gratuitously accused me of just being a liberal, unwilling to take self-defensive actions.

        • Wellington says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 9:05 pm

          I’m not interested in biblical passages either, RonaldB. With you as usual.

          While I respect the religions of Judaism and Christianity, indeed applaud them for their subtle take on existence and on their emphasis of the great value of the individual, in the final analysis, and especially in any consideration of the broad coalition against what the wretched religion which is Islam intends for us all (a “master faith,” a la Netanyahu, mirroring the “master race” nonsense of Nazism), I see no upside in pushing a particular non-Islamic, but still religious assessment, of how to deal with Islam.

          The coalition against Islam, which includes Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, agnostics, atheists, et al. DEMANDS that no splitting of this coalition occur by way of any truly divisive proselytizing. Yes, “gentle” disagreements among this coalition I welcome, indeed I have engaged in such now and again, but acerbic commentary that would divide this most important of coalitions in our time is simply not defensible. So, once again, with you..

          Hope you and yours are doing well. Take care.

        • Edward says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 9:24 am

          RonaldB says “I’m assuming you can follow a logical argument”.

          I’ve long ago gave up anger to those that have executed erroneous political tactical errors in the past. I considered it a no gainer by lamenting over what a Politian has done in the past, but I do consider historical facts as part of the puzzle that has wound unwanted knots of any situation to help unwind these pesky knots of our lives.

          “WE are the instigator’s when we want to defend ourselves against the murderous antagonist’s.”

          I standby these words to let it be known by our antagonists that we have the fundamental rights to defend ourselves in spite of whatever we are labeled with.

          BTW, I consider what is written in the Holy Scriptures as touchstones; as a test or criterion for the qualities of living standards.

          I apologize for offending you by my words…these words are aimed to those (Liberalism) that want to thwart our nation’s right to pursue what has been endowed by our Creator!

  15. Moa says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Barry Rubin explains *exactly* why the US is supporting the Muslim Brotherhood.

    “Barry Rubin: Assessing Egypt and the Muslim Brotherhood” [30 mins]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNQCEZlK5ig

    When the US Director of Intelligence thinks that the Muslim Brotherhood is “secular” then you know the system is rotten or the core.

  16. duh_swami says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 4:01 pm

    I had a dream that Rasool Obama and Hillary thought it was a great idea to appease Sunni Islam by ‘arranging’ a Muslim Brotherhood Caliphate with Egypt as a headquarters. But first the ‘strong man’ rulers had to be removed…So I dreamed that Hillary said, ‘Mubarak must go, and he went. Then Hillary said Gaddafi must go and he went. Then Hillary said, ‘We came, we saw, he died’, and then laughed. Then Hillary said Assad must go, and they are still working on that one. The whole plan failed miserably…I dreamed they got their Caliphate, but not the one they wanted. Then someone shook me and said, ‘Wake up your only dreaming’…It was Marie Harf, but I think I dreamed that too…

  17. Leith Wood says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 5:20 pm

    Huma Abedin’s mother wrote a book explaining how the Muslims could instill Sharia law in Western countries. Why was Huma working for Hillary Clinton and exposed to top secret material, when she and her family are Muslim Brotherhood/Sisterhood? Obama is happy.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 5:37 pm

      ”Huma Abedin’s mother wrote a book explaining how the Muslims could instill Sharia law in Western countries.”

      Really? Where can I buy it ?

    • Edward says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 6:18 pm

      I’m beginning to believe that all key Democratic Liberals have psyche altering implants…their minds seem to resonate to the same mindset tune. They all seem to have a staff aid that channels thoughts to their bosses, that makes then reject the thought of disfranchising the Muslim world and also making good on all demands even if its counter culture. Lets face it the Liberal’s surrender appeasement is the catalyst of all of America’s social ills regardless of racial or gender engagements, even if it intrudes to others does not matter……no reasonable equality, but where emotions is king!

  18. Kepha says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Victor Hugo once said that nothing is more powerful than an idea whose time has come; to which Uncle Kepha adds the observation that this holds true even if the idea is a very bad one.

    Right after World War II, Communism of the Stalinist variety was “the wave of the future”. The USA blew lives and treasure in an unsuccessful attempt to contain its spread, culminating in the fiasco of the Second Indochina War, in the wake of which America has been unable to craft and sustain a bipartisan foreign policy.

    The O and Shrillary took this lesson to heart. They decided that the Muslim Brotherhood was the “wave of the future” for the Middle East, and decided to try to placate it and win its cooperation rather than confront it. Unfortunately, the MB’s and their offshoots showed their gratitude to the USA in the Benghazi incident and anti-American demos in Egypt on 9/11/12. It has not occurred to either O or Shrill to read Sayyid Qotb’s view of America; nor that it might be possible that who we are counts for more in some people’s hatred of us than anything we have ever done or failed to do. Hence, this maladministration’s gamble with winning the hearts and minds of people adamantly unwilling to be won by us backfired.

    Up-and-coming movements pick their enemies. Since they are often movements of the losers, the resentful, the covetous, and thieving, they will necessarily find in the productive and sober elements in the USA and other advanced countries their special targets of ire.

    • John C. Barile says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 11:49 pm

      Obama won’t change course, but America will. I hope and trust that Obama’s policies won’t outlast his term in office.

      Islamism–the Islamic supremacist political project–is out there exposed for all to see. It’s about time for some serious push-back, and the US is still in the forefront of world leadership.

  19. profitsbeard says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    Treason is the reason for O’s breezin’.

  20. traci94 says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 6:56 pm

    I think Obama hates America and most Americans, but why the hell is he allowed to do what he is doing? Colluding with the Muslim Brotherhood, making a horrible “deal” (which is basically no deal) with Iran, doing NOTHING to stop ISIS. I mean, is he the only person making decisions in Washington?? Can’t Congress override a rogue, narcissistic traitor president? Or don’t they care either?

  21. abad says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 8:52 pm

    Obama had better appreciate the protection he has now while he is in office. He has proven to be the most dangerous President this nation has ever had.

    At the rate he is going – if he is not impeached as he should be – someone will make him go “Bye Bye” the hard way out.

  22. jewdog says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 9:58 pm

    Anointing the MB as a plausibly moderate alternative shows once again the utter futility of trying to cure jihadism by proxy. The MB will not be our friends. They are part of the problem.
    Either we sit back and hope the anarchy neutralizes our enemies or we reclaim civilization and start staking out Sharia-free zones with our military.

  23. Grumpyoldguy says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 11:59 pm

    Still not sure I can view Islam as a religion, since unlike most world religions, it has its own military, court system, banking rules, shady religious ‘police’ who help to enforce the Shari’a, and a ruling theocratic body politic. No other religion is set up like it.

    It’s set up more like Cosa Nostra than a faith based entity. Thomas Jefferson’s words about being okay with something another is doing as long as that someone wasn’t picking his pocket, or breaking his leg comes to mind. Mormonism is fine, but it’s old tenets of polygamy are not. Get rid of the murder and mayhem inherent to Islam and I might be able to view it as a true religion. The belief in Islam is one thing, but lopping off a head because someone doesn’t, or won’t, believe what you do is where I would draw the line. And the willingness to kill over a silly cartoon is insanity laid bare.

    • Don McKellar says

      Jun 6, 2015 at 12:21 am

      You cannot view Islam as a religion because that is not what it was designed to be.

      In the 7th Century, the Arab warlords who had conquered large territories of land by the sword found themselves with a real patchwork of cultures, religions, and laws to deal with. To fix the problem, they had some wise advisors (or maybe it was them themselves) who looked to the establishment of Christianity several centuries before by Constantine who needed some way to reunite the Roman empire, as he did not have the wealth and standing armies of the previous emperors. So he and his council pieced together the Bible, and what we now know as Christianity was created during his reign. It worked for him and his purposes. Perhaps he even believed it.

      The Arab warlords couldn’t simply adopt Chrisitianity, so they instead stole ideas from Judeism, rewrote some Bible stories to suit their purposes, adopted the polytheist overgod Allah, and put it all together with a comprehensive legal, banking, and comprehensive system governing peoples’ lives. A mysterious “prophet” was created, for whom there is no actual history or evidence, and the Koran was written. After it was done, more material was created in its “sequels” the hadiths, imaginary stories about Muhammad’s life and all his cruel and violent acts, to flesh it all out.

      I guess the key point to remember is a good quote that sums it up that I read recently from the cartoonist Fatswan. He said something to the effect that Islam is a religion from a part of the world where evil won. And that really does sum it up.

      • Don McKellar says

        Jun 6, 2015 at 12:23 am

        I’m sure my post is full of typos and misspellings, but I can’t correct anything here. So my apologies.

    • quotha raven says

      Jun 6, 2015 at 6:03 am

      Grumpy – You are exactly right. Islam is a totalitarian theocracy, and religion is only ONE ELEMENT of a theocracy. Cheers! Quotha

  24. prman says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 1:34 am

    Bottom line: The American people are asleep.

  25. PE says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 8:35 am

    Obama is beyond clueless.
    No Islamic organization that promotes hatred of Israel and the West is “moderate”; the Muslim Brotherhood has a horrible track record, including the assassination of Sadat.
    Congress should pass a law designating the MB as a terrorist organization. It would then become a Federal felony to support a terrorist organization.
    18 U.S. Code § 2339B:
    “Whoever knowingly provides material support or resources to a foreign terrorist organization, or attempts or conspires to do so, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both, and, if the death of any person results, shall be imprisoned for any term of years or for life.”
    If Obama sill persists, then he could and should be impeached.

  26. quotha raven says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 11:00 am

    “Obama is beyond clueless.”

    To PE – I hope by this you mean “crazy like a fox”…because clueless or ineffectual, Obama is not.

    Calling him “clueless” – and I’ve noticed a lot of people do – is akin to Cuomo calling violent jihadists “crazy”…thereby exonerating them from rational wickedness and in effect excusing their “crazy” (murderous) behavior.

    It might be more prudent to recognize and call Obama “clever and devious and deceitful.Quotha R

  27. Keith W. Jordan says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 11:30 am

    I do not believe in giving any kind of support to any Islamic group of any kind. Islam is evil. Period.

  28. b.c.terry says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    Is there anyone running for president that has the balls to tell it like it is about the M.B. and it’s affiliates, CAIR, MSA, etc., and expose them, shut them down, and lay the appropriate charges?

    This shxx is staring us in the face, and anyone with a modicum of knowledge can clearly see what’s going on.

    “Written sometime in 1987 but not formally published until May 22, 1991, Akram’s 18-page document listed the Brotherhood’s 29 likeminded “organizations of our friends” that shared the common goal of dismantling American institutions and turning the U.S. into a Muslim nation. These “friends” were identified by Akram and the Brotherhood as groups that could help convince Muslims “that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands … so that … God’s religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions.”

    Akram was well aware that in the U.S., it would be extremely difficult to promote Islam by means of terror attacks. Thus the “grand jihad” that he and his Brotherhood comrades envisioned was not a violent one involving bombings and shootings, but rather a stealth (or “soft”) jihad aiming to impose Islamic law (Sharia) over every region of the earth by incremental, non-confrontational means, such as working to “expand the observant Muslim base”; to “unif[y] and direc[t] Muslims’ efforts”; and to “present Islam as a civilization alternative.” At its heart, Akram’s document details a plan to conquer and Islamize the United States – not as an ultimate objective, but merely as a stepping stone toward the larger goal of one day creating “the global Islamic state.”

  29. Grumpyoldguy says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    Career politicians cannot, or will not save America. What we need are leaders. People who posess the rarest commodity on Planet Earth. – Common Sense.- Harder to find than truffles on a rainy day, but it’s worth cannot be measured. Politicians as of late only seem to make things worse whenever they get involved in the people’s lives and liberties.

    There’s a great line in The American President…”we have a lot of serious problems, and we need serious people to solve them.” Climate change takes a back seat to us losing our freedom. Stuck in a cage of PC slavery that kowtows to Muslim aggression is no way to live. Live free…or die well.

  30. duh_swami says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    I had a dream that Islam is a hostile, violent, hegemonic political system hiding behind religion. I dreamed it has its own officials, Imams, Ayatollahs, Mufti’s, it’s own constitution, the Quran, and examples of Mahound, it’s own law system, sharia, its own forts called mosque, and a standing army of millions, called jihadi.
    Then someone shook me and said, ‘wake up, your only dreaming’…It was Valarie Jarrett, but I might have dreamed that too…

  31. Bezelel says

    Jun 6, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Egypt wont be terribly shocked to hear about hussein obola and the mb in bed together.

  32. Mark says

    Jun 7, 2015 at 7:48 am

    ON OBAMA AND HIS BOOK… The Audicity of Hope pg 261 “if the political winds should shift I will side with the muslims”. His book came out during his first campaign.

    • PRODOS says

      Jun 11, 2015 at 8:39 am

      G’day Mark,

      I refer you to this item at Snopes:

      http://snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp

      The relevant passage from the book is:

      //In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.//

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 11, 2015 at 9:42 am

        Obama says if American citizens are subjected to ugly politics he will stand up for them.

        How is that a problem?

  33. underbed cat says

    Jun 7, 2015 at 7:19 pm

    Mr. Dobbs, CNN..What made the Iragi soildiers drop guns and flee, maybe as you say fearful. but more likely it is just it is the fact that they all have the aim of an Islamic caliphate…are not going to stop it. Besides they cannot fight with infidels against other muslims.

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