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Robert Spencer in PJM: Is free speech about Islam still possible in the US?

Jun 30, 2015 12:41 pm By Robert Spencer

ICNAMuhammadbillboardAt PJ Media today I provide a case study of how the freedom of speech is under threat today:

Do we really still have freedom of speech in this country?

An absurd question. Right? We still have the First Amendment, we still have the freedom to criticize any belief system and any individual.

Don’t we?

Nearly four years ago, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gave a strong indication that she and her cohorts were going to make it increasingly difficult to say anything negative about Muhammad. In an address on the freedom of speech at an Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) conference on combating religious intolerance, she said:

Together, we have begun to overcome the false divide that pits religious sensitivities against freedom of expression and we are pursuing a new approach. These are fundamental freedoms that belong to all people in all places and they are certainly essential to democracy.

But how could both religious sensitivities and freedom of expression be protected?

The OIC’s then-Secretary General Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu offered an answer: by criminalizing what he considered to be hatred and incitement to violence. He declared:

We cannot and must not ignore the implications of hate speech and incitement of discrimination and violence.

At the same time, he claimed that the OIC did not really want to criminalize free speech:

Our cause, which stems from out genuine concerns, should not be interpreted as calls for restriction on freedom.

To understand how Ihsanoglu could call for restrictions on the freedom of speech while simultaneously claiming that that was not what he was doing, one had to enter his Orwellian world (one that the American Left has eagerly jumped into) in which “hate speech” — as identified and labeled by Ihsanoglu himself and his fellow Islamic supremacists — was not and should not be considered to be protected free speech.

Clinton had the First Amendment to deal with. So in place of legal restrictions on criminalization of Islam, she suggested:

… old-fashioned techniques of peer pressure and shaming, so that people don’t feel that they have the support to do what we abhor.

She held a lengthy closed-door meeting with Ihsanoglu in December 2011 to facilitate the adoption of measures that would advance the OIC’s anti-free speech. But what agreements she and Ihsanoglu made, if any, have never been disclosed.

After the jihad attack at the Muhammad cartoon contest that Pamela Geller and I hosted in Garland, Texas, last month, we got a taste of those “old-fashioned techniques of peer pressure and shaming.”

Many people — on both the left and the right — criticized us for gratuitously offending Muslims. Luminaries such as Bill O’Reilly and Laura Ingraham acknowledged the point of our event — to stand for the freedom of speech against violent intimidation — but insisted that just because we could do something didn’t mean that we should do it.

They maintained that demonstrating respect to Muslim sensibilities would in the long run do more to fight jihad terror than defiance in the face of threats and murder.

Events have moved quickly. Now, just weeks later, we have moved from “you can do it, but you shouldn’t” to “you can’t do it” — at least on public billboard space.

If you dare to cross into political incorrectness, you’ll be subjected to “peer pressure and shaming.” As I wrote recently, Muhammad is now the man we all must love, and the billboard giant Clear Channel has now shown what that means.

Clear Channel ran billboards in Atlanta from the Muslim Brotherhood-linked Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), stating:

Muhammad — peace be upon him — believed in peace, social justice, women’s rights.

When Geller and I tried to counter this ridiculous deception with the truth, Clear Channel was not so accommodating.

Our initial ad read:

Muhammad believed in war, denial of rights to women, denial of rights to non-Muslims, deceit of unbelievers.

All of these assertions are readily verifiable from core Islamic texts. But Clear Channel nixed this ad, so we developed a new one featuring quotations attributed to Muhammad himself in the Hadith:

I have been made victorious through terror; I have seen that the majority of the dwellers of Hell-fire were you (women); I have been commanded to fight against people.

That one got a thumbs-down from Clear Channel as well, even though we readily complied with their request to show the Islamic sources from which these quotes came.

Clear Channel’s Jack Jessen told Pamela Geller that he rejected our ad because:

[It had a] negative connotation to it.

But Clear Channel has no problem with negative ads in general. It readily ran atheist ads criticizing belief in God, and has had no qualms about running Palestinian anti-Israel hate propaganda:

Clear-Channel-atheist-billboard

Clear-Channel-anti-Israel-billboard

But quoting words attributed to Muhammad that might make Americans less ignorant and complacent regarding the jihad threat?

No way.

Apparently, it is now forbidden to dissent publicly from the idea that Muhammad was nothing less than the perfect example for all human conduct that the Qur’an says he is (33:21)….

Read the rest here.

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  1. mortimer says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    Suggestion for a new counter-ad:

    “DID MOHAMMED SUPPORT PEACE? WOMEN’S RIGHTS? SOCIAL JUSTICE?

    GET THE FACTS: JIHADWATCH!

  2. miriamrove says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    The only thing Muhammad was most interested in was his penis and spilling the blood of innocent people. m

    • Holy Prophet APF says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 1:55 pm

      m, your make the Holy Prophet (Mohammed, not me) out to be an empty and shallow sex fiend, and this is wrong. Let me correct you: Yes he was most interested in his penis, but no that interest was not in addition to the spilling of blood of innocents. He slaughtered innocents to serve the overriding interest of his… penis.

      In this sense it can be said that the Holy Prophet was a simple man. True, he invented a perpetual motion machine like no other, so he was a genius who left a great legacy in his wake. But he was simple. As he lay dying in excruciating pain from the syphilis strangling his penis, he knew that to motivate his troops he needed to lay the groundwork to feed their penises, not only those of his standing army, but also the penises of those who might be recruits.

      • miriamrove says

        Jun 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm

        excellent!!! M

        • somehistory says

          Jun 30, 2015 at 11:04 pm

          Miramrove,

          Is it not true that he said that one day islam…referring to it as a snake…would return to its hole from whence it came?
          Hopefully, this will happen soon….and that snake should never escape again. I think we’ve all had just about as much as we can take from this snake of islam, just from reading and hearing about all of the atrocities in other lands, and the lying and deceptive practices here.

      • harbidoll says

        Jul 1, 2015 at 8:09 am

        I thought most armies crawled on their stomach ! Strange image this makes.

  3. john spielman says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 12:56 pm

    the response by Bill Oreilly and Laura Ingraham appeasement suggests that the are living in a cage with a growing man eating tiger cub. We must continuously feed and pamper the beast lest we offend it and it turns on us and eats us. However unless we rid ourselves of the tiger while we are a still stronger that it is, we will eventually be killed by it!

    • TheBuffster says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      Excellent metaphor!

  4. jihad3tracker says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Can any of the commenters here guess what hate speech is spoken most often every day all around this wacky planet ?

    That’s right —- “Allahu Akbar !” And it is preceded by a hate crime . . .

  5. KrazyKafir says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    I wonder what percentage of the western population actually know that Muhammad married a 6 year old child, and had sex with that child when she was 9 and he was in his 50’s? I’ll never love a warmongering child rapist, no matter how many leftists tell me I must.

    • Brian says

      Jul 1, 2015 at 2:31 am

      He didn’t wait until she was nine…he “tighed” her, ie used her tights to masturbate with…

      • ManchesterLad says

        Jul 1, 2015 at 11:02 am

        I thought the fine old fellow ‘thighed’ her – that is he inserted his penis between her legs and ejaculated between her thighs?

        Perhaps an Islamic scholar will come along and explain the Islamically sanctioned method for masturbating on infants.

        Praise be to Allah – for he is all knowing!

  6. mortimer says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:12 pm

    Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama have made statements that show they reject freedom of expression that disagrees with them.

    They have both shown their willingness to suppress free expression for their personal agendas.

    They have both betrayed their oath of office to defend the US consitution…which still includes the First Amendment which states: “Congress shall make no law … abridging the freedom of speech”.

  7. wildjew says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    “If you dare to cross into political incorrectness, you’ll be subjected to “peer pressure and shaming…..”

    I think I posted this earlier. I think it is worth reading. It might not apply in its entirety to this situation. I don’t see Spencer yielding or subsiding into silence anytime soon.

    Alexis de Tocqueville wrote: “In America the majority raises very formidable barriers to the liberty of opinion: within these barriers an author may write whatever he pleases, but he will repent it if he ever step beyond them. Not that he is exposed to the terrors of an auto-da-fe, but he is tormented by the slights and persecutions of daily obloquy.

    His political career is closed forever, since he has offended the only authority which is able to promote his success. Every sort of compensation, even that of celebrity, is refused to him. Before he published his opinions he imagined that he held them in common with many others; but no sooner has he declared them openly than he is loudly censured by his overbearing opponents, whilst those who think without having the courage to speak, like him, abandon him in silence. He yields at length, oppressed by the daily efforts he has been making, and he subsides into silence, as if he was tormented by remorse for having spoken the truth.

    The sovereign can no longer say, “You shall think as I do on pain of death;” but he says, “You are free to think differently from me, and to retain your life, your property, and all that you possess; but if such be your determination, you are henceforth an alien among your people. You may retain your civil rights, but they will be useless to you, for you will never be chosen by your fellow-citizens if you solicit their suffrages, and they will affect to scorn you if you solicit their esteem. You will remain among men, but you will be deprived of the rights of mankind. Your fellow-creatures will shun you like an impure being, and those who are most persuaded of your innocence will abandon you too, lest they should be shunned in their turn. Go in peace! I have given you your life, but it is an existence in comparably worse than death.”

    (Democracy in America. by Alexis de Tocqueville)

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 1:38 pm

      … but if such be your determination, you are henceforth an alien among your people. You may retain your civil rights, but they will be useless to you, for you will never be chosen by your fellow-citizens if you solicit their suffrages, and they will affect to scorn you if you solicit their esteem.

      So, the question is, will the promise of obloquy remain for those who criticize Islam and Moslems after the next big attack that results in the mass murder of thousand or hundreds or thousands of American citizens, or even more? It could swing either way after that happens, and it will, where either the public outlaws any criticism of Islam at all (as our slated next president Hillary has formally proposed) or it enacts laws limiting or even proscribing Islam.

      After 3,000 slaughtered on 9/11, the great Yale/Harvard Man Prez Dubya lectured us that Islam is a religion of peace. What will the lecture be after the next such incident?

      • wildjew says

        Jun 30, 2015 at 2:59 pm

        If we are talking about nuclear weapons one day, we might be talking hundreds of millions or billions of souls. By then it could be too late. There will be no debate. No mea culpas.

        In the forward to his “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” (Copyright 1961) William Shirer wrote:

        “Adolf Hitler is probably the last of the great adventurer-conquerors in the tradition of Alexander, Caesar and Napoleon, and the Third Reich the last of the empires which set out on the path taken earlier by France, Rome and Macedonia. The curtain was rung down on that phase of history, at least, by the sudden invention of the hydrogen bomb, of the ballistic missile and of rockets that can be aimed to hit the moon. In our new age of terrifying, lethal gadgets, which supplanted so swiftly the old one, the first great aggressive war, if it should come, will be launched by suicidal little madmen pressing an electronic button. Such a war will not last long and none will ever follow it. There will be no conquerors and no conquests, but only the charred bones of the dead on an uninhabited planet.”

  8. Hansel says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:27 pm

    Well its funny how she fights for the muslim rights.. yest christians need to change their religious beliefs regarding abortion and sodomy???
    realise finally why bill needed another woman..

  9. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    There are two substantial barriers to free speech about Islam in this country:

    1) There is accepted among judges the illegal concept of hate crime resulting in de facto law enforced that is illegal by the constitutional requirement for equality before the law, and

    2) There is the real possibility of personal ruin, injury and death that could follow from speaking freely about Islam.

    Both are in force throughout the land, and become more important each day as we import large number of legal Moslem immigrants and allow illegal alien Moslems to come here over our southern border. The primary vehicle delivering this force is the media, a loose collection of public venues, including the courts, that makes the pro-Islam tend self-reinforcing by strongly implied threats of personal unpopularity, employability, and said personal injury or death.

    • wildjew says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 1:41 pm

      I blame conservative commentators (more than the mainstream media) especially following the September 11, 2001 attacks. Former President Bush (I voted for him in 2000), after the September attacks assured the nation Islam is a religion of peace that had been hijacked by a few “terrorists” who were traitors to their faith. Bush should have been condemned by conservatives but he wasn’t. I expect these lies from this Muslim-born president. I did not expect to hear them from a self-professed conservative Christian like Bush. For seven plus years conservative commentators (on the radio, Internet, etc.) fell silent. They dutifully carried Bush’s water; Limbaugh, Hannity, all of them. Now we have this Muslim-born nightmare. Is it any wonder? If conservatives were afraid to challenge Bush, how can we successfully challenge Barack Obama?

      • Holy Prophet APF says

        Jun 30, 2015 at 2:20 pm

        I expect these lies from this Muslim-born president. I did not expect to hear them…

        Jew, to me it’s an open question whether these were lies. It’s quite possible that they actually believe the crap they spew, yes even with demerits for the willful ignorance necessarily involved. Prez Dubya’s declaration after 9/11 stands as the single most irresponsible and damaging statement ever made by an American president, and the greatest opportunity we’ve ever lost.

        But it would be too much to expect for Prez Dubya and Prez Barack Hussein to check a damned fact. These are prestigious men of Harvard Harvard Yale Yale Harvard Columbia Columbia Yale Yale Yale Harvard Harvard Columbia Columbia Harvard Yale, so they already know, and it would belittle them to ask that they look it up, which for that reason nobody ever did.

        They might not be liars; they may just be obtrusive pompous genius dumbasses. My guess is the latter, more complicated but easier for me to believe as likely.

        • wildjew says

          Jun 30, 2015 at 2:45 pm

          I have no way of ascertaining their respective motives for misleading the public. One would think Obama, by reason of his background, knows ISIS represents authoritative Islam; that he is intentionally misleading the American people about the religion of Islam. I embrace the more general definition of a lie to include a misleading or false statement regardless of the intent or the knowledge of the speaker. A lie is a lie though a deliberate lie is worse.

          What troubled me during the Bush years was not so much his motive(s) for misleading the Americans people about Islam but that no one prominent in the conservative movement called him out or challenged his falsehoods. Nor did anyone prominent in the conservative movement call him out for betraying Israel or (like Obama) claiming Israel’s communities in Judea and Samaria, Jerusalem are illegitimate when they are nothing of the sort.

  10. wildjew says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:34 pm

    Rush Limbaugh played some clips this afternoon of Chris Christie talking compromise with Barack Obama and the Democrats. He talks compromise because Limbaugh (rightly) thinks Christie has bought into lefist the smear that the political right is full of racists, bigots, homophobes, crazies and wackos but he will not come out and say so publicly. Christie merely implies it by means of all this talk of compromise.

    Limbaugh: “He (Christie) does not come right out and say his party is full of wackos.”

    I wonder if Mr. Limbaugh listens to Chris Christie on Islam, sharia, jihad, etc.

    Christie’s ‘Crazies’

    by ANDREW C. MCCARTHY

    August 6, 2011 7:00 AM

    Sharia is not a figment of our imagination. This “sharia-law business is crap . . . and I’m tired of dealing with the crazies!” So blustered Chris Christie. Bluster is the New Jersey governor’s default mode. It has certainly served him well. When directed at surly advocates of New Jersey’s teachers’ unions — who, after all, deserve it — bluster can apparently make a conservative heartthrob out of a pol whose bite is bipartisan moderate, however titillating his bark may be…..

    • Holy Prophet APF says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      Sharia is not a figment of our imagination.

      Christie is a joke, but a funny one, if an ironic one in the sense of black comedy. He tacitly approved one of his employees, a state judge in Passaic I think, endorsing Sharia law by ruling in a severe wife beating case that the beater was innocent because he was a Moslem and best left to the guidelines of his personal belief system, Islam.

      It’s too bad Governor Chris didn’t take to the TV set and denounce the beaten Moslima wife as being obviously full of it for having the gall to raise criminal charges against the man, the beater, a Moslem Man. Too bad Chris never hugged the beater on TV for all to see.

  11. duh_swami says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    … old-fashioned techniques of peer pressure and shaming, so that people don’t feel that they have the support to do what we abhor.

    What does ‘what we abhor’ mean? Hillary abhors slanders to Mahound or Islam? To hate, to loath, to detest? Does she love Islam, Allah and Mahound that much? Must have been all those hours of da’wah with Huma…Closet Muslimah?

  12. Know Thy Enemy says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 2:12 pm

    OT: It appears that people were correct to suspect that the Liberals’ next move would be to work towards making polygamy legal. It hasn’t been a week since the Supreme Court’s gay-marriage ruling, and the liberals are already in action-

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/gay-marriage-decision-polygamy-119469.html#.VZLXfvlVjf0

    • Holy Prophet APF says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 3:01 pm

      Will bestiality marriage come after? Whatever happens on that, the homosexual marriage decision opens the door to polygamy by making marriage definable by lawyers. This will let Moslem cab drivers finally come out of the shadows, no longer having to hide the fact of their polygamous marriages, as done by the Holy Prophet and as allowed by the Shariah.

      The benefit to us is that we’ll no longer have to endure the spectacle of the FBI busting a Mormon polygamist every year or so while never, ever, busting a Moslem polygamist, and there must be a hundred times more of them than Mormon ones.

  13. Angemon says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    I’d like to dedicate this song to all purveyors of political correctness:

  14. Salome says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 4:22 pm

    Muslims believe in: Peace (when everyone’s the same sort of Muslim); Women’s Rights (half as much as men’s, at best); Social Justice (Muslims looking after Muslims to the exclusion of all others).

    • Galen Muhammad says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:25 pm

      One should be careful when claiming to speak for others…..particularly when that person clearly does not know what those other people believe and/or practice.

      Speak for yourself.

  15. torino390 says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    Here in the UK recently, somebody I know was banned from Facebook for eight weeks, for criticizing ISIS. I mean, Facebook of all places, you know ‘social’ media, where you can (should be able to) talk to people… I think it’s safe to say freedom of speech is still alive and well, as long as we like what you say.

    • Galen Muhammad says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm

      That’s weird, but I don’t think you have the whole story….

      I blast #PISIS (the P is for PSEUDO) on a REGULAR BASIS on Facebook. Search of the #PISIS.

      This person you mentioned must have been banned from Facebook for an ACTUAL violation of usage. They allow all kinds of disrespectful, fact-free pages to defame Islam remain active on Facebook.

  16. LRM says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 5:32 pm

    Maybe a positive add:
    Jesus practiced and taught: Peace, Social Justice, Womens rights,

  17. No Fear says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    A man writes a book in which he describes himself (91 times) as a “perfect example” for man.

    And people believe him?

    That’s got to say a lot about those who believe him.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 7:28 pm

      It certainly does.

    • gerard says

      Jun 30, 2015 at 8:44 pm

      Muslims don’t understand the concept of a circular argument. Anjem Choudary said “We know Mohammad existed because the Koran says so”!
      Oh dear!
      It seems not to bother Muslims that Mohammad is their only source for the Koran. Mohammad’s Koran says that Mohammad is Allah’s apostle and is the perfect man. Muslims say that the Koran is God’s word. But the Koran is given through Mohammad. Who says that Mohammad is reliable? Why, the Koran does!
      Aaargh!

      • TheBuffster says

        Jun 30, 2015 at 10:00 pm

        It’s so plain and clear, isn’t it?

        But to see how obvious it is, a person has to place more importance on his or her own perceptions and reasoning power than on what other people say and believe. You have to be brave enough to see with your own eyes and think with your own mind, and not be intimidated by threats of hellfire proclaimed by someone in authority. And you have to overcome the superstitious element that plagues mankind, a trickster that lurks in the basement of every mind, ready to cripple it with fear unless that mind locks the basement door with reason.

        When a person is born into a family whose beliefs intimidate the use of reason and intellectual honesty, that person has more obstacles – sometimes very threatening obstacles – to overcome before he can see and embrace what is obvious to an honest, rational mind.

    • Galen Muhammad says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:18 pm

      Wait…..

      You mean the book the Prophet Muhammad (saw) wrote….??!!

  18. EYESOPEN says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 7:13 pm

    How about this excellent article by Daniel Greenfield on FrontPageMag.com today:

    WILL THE NEW YORK TIMES SHOW THIS PAINTING OF MOHAMMED MADE OUT OF CONDOMS?
    If a Pope painting made out of condoms is fine, why not Mohammed?

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259301/will-new-york-times-show-painting-mohammed-made-daniel-greenfield

  19. pdxnag says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 8:51 pm

    Propagation of Islam approvingly is itself some of the most hateful of any speech. It is perhaps more an incitement to engage in violence for Allah rather than speech, as speech is understood in civilized company. Refusal to oppose their ceremonial invocation to slaughter can be misunderstood as approval or acquiescence.

  20. vlparker says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    The Democrat party never changes. What you are seeing now in regards to criticism of islam is just the Democrat party doing what it has done for 185 years. Destroying liberty. Only this time they are backing the wrong horse, and if their horse wins they will die. But they are too stupid to realize that.

  21. mortimer says

    Jun 30, 2015 at 10:15 pm

    Let’s compare this whitewash of Mohammed with the following…would the following be ‘acceptable’?

    DER FUEHRER stands for -PEACE -HUMAN RIGHTS -RACIAL HARMONY

    Would it be worth any money for Clear Channel to publish such an ad?

  22. Richard says

    Jul 1, 2015 at 8:28 am

    As some would say … Aside from implications for the principle of freedom of speech, what has happened to freedom of religious association ? How many idols are there and which take precendence in the scenario ? What happens to conflicting claims if there is no debate, even with oneself ?

  23. BommelBen says

    Jul 1, 2015 at 12:07 pm

    FREE SPEECH AND INSULTING MOHAMMED

    According to the holy scriptures of the Islam ideology Mohammed was a highway robber (more friendly called a warlord), a murderer (he actively participated in the beheading of hundreds of captured Jews), a torturer (but only to extract the location of a hidden treasure), a lecher (he forced his stepson to divorce because he lusted after his attractive wife), a pedophile (he married for political reasons his six year old niece and consumed this marriage when she was nine), a rapist (only of captured women and slaves) and a liar (but not to other Muslims).
    What kind of insult could improve on that if this is true and if it is not true are not the Koran and the Hadith the worst slanderers?
    How can a decent person see him as a perfect man and model to be imitated?

    • Galen Muhammad says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:14 pm

      Based on your first sentence, you clearly know nothing about the Holy Qur’an!

      That makes it moot to even read the rest of your statement…..! Who knows what level of foolishness exists within those statements….?!

  24. Elaine Trewartha says

    Jul 1, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    It is so very easy to find out the truth about Islam, say, try reading the Quran, that it is shocking that the overwhelming majority of educated people have bought the hogwash propaganda. Says something about the failure of educational systems to train critical thinking and the ability to analyze. That and, of course, moral cowardice and a system that so values the opinions of the crowd. Islam is evil. Pure and simple. Say it.

  25. Jae M says

    Jul 1, 2015 at 8:10 pm

    In Lebanon a journalist tells the truth about Islam and it’s relation to terrorism, In Egypt, people hold signs up with Obama’s face x’d out saying, “stop supporting terrorism”, and in the US they promote and defend Islam even as the Islamist’s call for America’s death. It is too obvious. America is in very great peril right now and the masses need to be aware. The reason they won’t allow these truthful ads is because the masses would awaken.

  26. Mark I. says

    Jul 1, 2015 at 9:23 pm

    Freedom of speech has been slowly but surely, eroded by the Politically Correct crowd. It’s only going to get worst in the coming years.

  27. PRG says

    Jul 1, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    If Muhammed supported the rights of women, why did he repeatedly take them as slaves and give them to other men like they were trick-or-treat candy?

    • Galen Muhammad says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:12 pm

      Are you speaking of the women whose husbands had attacked the Muslim and were killed……like those people written of in the Bible….?

  28. Jack Holan says

    Jul 2, 2015 at 7:43 am

    Robert, a few years back you produced a documentary that chronicled Islam based on the Qur’an and Hadith show it to be violent and antithetical to the Judeo-Christian values of our society. It ws show easy to follow. I believe Raymond Ibrahim and Walid Shoebat appeared as well. Have you thought about updating it and presenting the documentary in high end movie houses?

    • Galen Muhammad says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 3:34 am

      Legit business wouldn’t support his pack of lies; spinning and cherry-picked cut-and-paste job of the Holy Qur’an and Hadith.

      So he knows that his answer is no.

  29. Galen Muhammad says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:31 am

    Note to Robert Spencer:

    Most of us in the west don’t care too much about political incorrectness. We’re more concerned with factual incorrectness. That’s where you and your ilk are the masters, with your lying, forked tongues!

    You don’t, personally, have to love or respect anyone. Just be truthful when you speak of them. That seems to be a challenge for you and your ilk when it comes to Islam, Muslims (in general), or Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him (specifically).

    Being opposed to zionism, oppression and apartheid is not anti-Israeli. There are Israelis who are opposed to the illegal occupation of Palestine!

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 8:06 am

      “You don’t, personally, have to love or respect anyone. Just be truthful when you speak of them. That seems to be a challenge for you and your ilk when it comes to Islam, Muslims (in general), or Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him (specifically).You don’t, personally, have to love or respect anyone. Just be truthful when you speak of them. That seems to be a challenge for you and your ilk when it comes to Islam, Muslims (in general), or Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him (specifically).”

      Galen, here is a truthful statement regarding Muslims- Muslims believe that Allah will forgive all sins/crimes but He will not forgive Shirk.

      Here is another truthful statement, this time it is regarding Muhammad and is taken from hadiths- Muhammad revered the black stone at Kaaba.

      Now without loving or respecting Muhammad, I am just going to be truthful when I say this- Muhammad clearly committed SHIRK, and so he is NOT forgiven!

      Here is yet another factually correct statement- Muslims, and Christians and Jews too, believe that the devil rebelled against God.

      Galen, Muhammad revered the black stone knowing full well that God had prohibited humans from doing such a thing. Muhammad clearly rebelled against God, Galen! So once again without loving or respecting Muhammad, I am just going to be truthful when I say this- Muhammad was clearly the devil’s agent, not “messenger of God”.

      Galen, why do you worship the devil? Why do you buy into his agent’s lies? I challenge you to give us a factual, reasonable, and sensible explanation to what Muhammad did!

      • Galen Muhammad says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 12:10 pm

        Know:

        I’m not too sure what you’ve been studying in the process of learning about whom you perceive is your enemy…. In fact, the enemy of those who are righteous are evil, obviously!

        You made claims about Prophet Muhammad that weren’t true (i.e., that he revered the black stone and that he rebelled against Allah). Nothing could be further from the truth.

        Then you implied the I worship the enemy to all mankind, Shaytan. I hate him, with a burning passion. I ask Allah for His protection against the evil Shaytan. Basically, your statement really makes no sense.

        Is there some financial gain you receive for lying against Islam and Muslims? That would make you a paid Islamaphobe. If there is no financial gain, then you’re spewing these lies for what purpose?

        • Champ says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 4:31 pm

          “Galen” wouldn’t know the TRUTH about muhammad (perdition be upon him) if it bit him in the rear-end.

          muhammad (perdition be upon him) was probably the most notorious *criminal* that ever lived — bar none! And I’m being kind by referring to him as a criminal. But he was. And he was NOT a prophet of the one true God!

          The truth hurts, but it’s better than believing a lie.

      • Know Thy Enemy says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 4:18 pm

        Now you are outright lying, Galen. This is Jihadwatch, not some cheapy government website, and your lies and denials will be quickly exposed for all to see.

        Muhammad did touch and kiss the black stone and there are multiple hadiths that claim this. Here is one-

        Narrated by Zaid bin Aslam (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) from his father who said: “Umar bin Al-Khattab (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) addressed the Corner (Black Stone) saying, ‘By Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) ! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) touching, I would never have touched (and kissed) you.’ Then he kissed it and said, ‘There is no reason for us to do Ramal (during circumambulating – Tawaf) except that we wanted to show off before the Pagans, and now Allah (سبحانہ و تعا لی) has destroyed them.’ ‘Umar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) added, ‘(nevertheless), the Prophet (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) did that and we do not want to leave it (i.e. Ramal).’ (Bukhari book #26, Hadith #675).

        Here is another-

        Narrated by Ibn Umar (رضئ اللہ تعالی عنہ) He said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (صلى الله عليه و آله وسلم) say: “Touching them both (the Black Stone and al-Rukn al-Yamani) is an expiation for sins.” (Tirmidhi – 959. This Hadith was classified as Hasan by Tirmidhi and as Saheeh by al-Haakim (1/664) and ad-Dhahabi agreed with him)

        Touching and kissing an object is always done with reverence. Notice in the second hadith Muhammad explaining the primary benefit of touching the black stone- “expiation for sins”, which means that if previously his followers didn’t care about the black stone much, they certainly revered the stone after Mu explained the benefit of doing so.

        Muhammad knew that touching/kissing a mere thing goes against God’s direction to humans, yet he did it! This is clearly rebellion against God and anyone can see this.

        As any Christian, Jew, or Muslim can tell you, it is Shaytan who rebelled against God!
        ———————–

        As for my enemy, my enemy is the same as your enemy- ignorance. The only difference between you and I is that whereas I work hard to discern knowledge from ignorance, you let yourself be fooled by Shaytan and swallow his lies hook, line, and sinker!

        You can live in denial all you want Galen, but the objective non-Muslim readers here can easily see that Muslims have been deceived by the devil! Those who study Islam in more detail can find many more clues that make it clear beyond doubt that Quran is from Shaytan, and that Muhammad was Shaytan’s agent, and that the two of them were simply tricking people into thinking of them as “God” and “God’s messenger”!

        “I ask Allah for His protection against the evil Shaytan.”

        Your prayers are useless Galen because you pray to Muhammad’s “Allah”. Mu’s “Allah” is none other than Shaytan himself. Why would Shaytan protect you from himself?

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