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The Triumph of the Islamic State

Jun 28, 2015 7:16 am By Hugh Fitzgerald

Islamic State 13The murder of 27 tourists in Tunisia, the spectacle of the beheaded French citizen, who worked at an industrial plant near Lyon in France (he was known to his attacker, so a personal motive should not be excluded, but the methods chosen are those of ISIS, and the killer was on the police watchlist for Islamic extremism), the bomb attack on the Shi’a mosque in Kuwait, killing 25, the 145 civilians murdered in Kobani, in the Kurdish part of Syria, all within a single day as a macabre observance of Ramadan, show the reach and ferocity of the methods of the Islamic State, and its admirers and emulators, a group once dismissed by Barack Obama as “the J.V.” team.

Martin O’Malley, a Democratic candidate for President, blames the American “rush to war” over Iraq for the rise of the Islamic State. But what could he possibly mean by this? Does he mean that the Muslim Arabs, and Muslims from all over the world who have gone to join the Islamic State, only did so because, with the removal of Saddam Hussein, they found it possible to do so? Or does he mean that the American intervention in Iraq caused resentment among local Sunni Arabs, resentment both of the Infidel Americans and the Infidel Shi’a — those Rafidite dogs and Persians — that hadn’t existed until then, because Sunni Arabs had been running Iraq, as by right they should, and then been dispossessed, and this resentment led to the rise of  the Islamic State?

And once it declared itself, this naturally resulted in Pakistani doctors living in Great Britain and Lebanese lawyers in Australia to flock to the Islamic state, along with tens of thousands of other Muslims, from many Western as well as from many Muslim countries. Some countries send more, some less. Tunisians are much in evidence; so are Saudis; so are Chechens. Somalis from Minneapolis, Pakistanis from London, Algerians from Paris, all stream in, and of course so do the converts to Islam, those psychically and socially marginal non-Muslims who, in the projects or in the prisons of Europe and America meet Muslims and decide to join the Muslim gang, which gives them an instant Community of Bruvvers who will support and defend one another, provide a cause that justifies and reclassifies their crimes against the circumambient society as merely following the path of Allah — so that theft now is seen as helping yourself, in the absence of a Muslim ruler, to the Jizyah you deserve — and offers both a Total Regulation of Life and a Simple Solution of the Universe. It’s perfect for so many. It’s a different group from that which converts to Christianity.

These are the Muslims who did not need the war in Iraq to increase their resentment of the West. They hate the Western Infidels for no other reason than that they are Infidels. They hate the Shi’a, who in their eyes are Infidels. They hate the local Christians and Yazidis. They merely took advantage of the absence of authority in the western reaches of Iraq and in war-torn Syria to efface a border, for in the caliphate of their dreams national borders are meaningless, and set up a state, with functioning Shari’a courts, an economy based on theft and extortion, and looting of historical relics, as well as of whatever oil they can manage to divert to themselves from the national pipelines. It is an extraordinary story, and the nearly simultaneous atrocities by admirers or members or emulators of the Islamic state, in France and Tunisia and Kuwait and Syria, ought to make everyone shudder in fear. For it appears that the more such atrocities there are, and then posted on the Internet (so many of them are filmed), the more popular the Islamic State becomes among young Muslims around the world.

Which brings us to the question: which is the real Islam? Is the Islamic State an aberration, a monstrous perversion of Islam, or is it perhaps the Islam depicted, and therefore followed by some nowadays, in the Hadith? “I have been made victorious with terror” was Muhammad’s claim. Has the Islamic State not been following the example set by the earliest Muslims? And if so, even if this Islamic State is defeated, or if it comes apart because the West and local regimes starve it of resources, and bomb it into oblivion, isn’t it true that, for some Muslims who take their  Islam straight up, and not diluted on the rocks, for those Muslims purs et durs, the Dream Shall Never Die? It can’t be eliminated, only reduced to manageable proportions.

As long as there is Islam, there will be those Muslims who will want something very much like the Islamic State. They will try to destroy economies — Tunisia is now reeling from the second attack on its tourism industry, and the effects will be devastating. What Western tourist would visit now? They will attack the Shi’a, even Arab Shi’a, because for the Islamic State Sunnis, Shi’a are Infidels, perhaps even worse, in their hypocrisy, than the Christians and Jews. They will kill and videotape their killings and that will bring more recruits.

Islam has been made bearable over the centuries by Muslims who did not know about, or decided tacitly not to enforce, many of its rules. That allowed Muslims to conduct a daily existence made tolerable because they limited their own Islam, for the most part, to the observance of the Five Pillars.

But now the illiterate villager, content for centuries  to visit the mud-hut mosque, has had his mental space invaded by, successively, radio, television, the Internet. The full message of Islam is available to him, and he can hardly escape it. To too many Muslims, this is apparently proving attractive. The opponents of the Islamic State can’t come up with a rebuttal of the Qur’anic quotes, and justification that the Sunnah also offers, for ISIS’ actions.What can they do? They can fight, but they are fighting the True Believers, making themselves open to charges of being un-Islamic. They don’t have the texts on their side.

So if Caid Bej Essebsi in Tunisia, or Al-Sisi in Egypt, finds that he has to come down hard, closing mosques — but where do the imams and their followers go, because they do not disappear? — his ruthlessness is understandable. They are fighting to prevent a descent into chaos and murder, and even the Ikhwan, in their minds, is not necessarily a plausible alternative to, but a step on the way toward, the Islamic State. Despotism may be necessary to contain, within Muslim countries, the most ferocious believers. It is difficult to see any other way to deal with such an enemy. Remember this the next time people deplore this or that strongman in the region. The Iron Fist sometimes is necessary, especially in the Muslim East.

Meanwhile, David Cameron says that these killings of Western sunbathers in Tunisia “were not committed in the name of Islam.” What else could he say, now that there are several million Muslims living in Great Britain, and he has to keep the peace? Others whose actions similarly were “not in the name of  Islam” or “had nothing to do with Islam” include Major Nidal Hasan and Dzhokar Tsarnaev, and Osama bin Laden and Al-Baghdadi. Nothing at all to do with Islam. At what point can we start to speak the truth?

What is it that prevents people from making the connection between text and deed? There is so much confusion, so much despair, so much clutching at the comforting and plausible denial of such a connection. All people need to keep their wits about them.

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  1. JawsV says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 7:50 am

    Actually Hugh I believe the final infidel body count of the Tunisia beach jihad is 38.

    We just lost 38 more Europeans due to Islam. The bloodthirsty Islamic deity is pleased.

  2. William says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 8:17 am

    It is really a triumph of the Islamic State. The Islamic State has a name. It has territory. It has power over that territory and it governs over it. It has structure of authority. It issues money; it administers laws. But many may not regard it as a state, or as a failed state, because it does not conform to our modern idea of one. It doesn’t have all the protocols one would expect – treaties and international arrangements, embassies, envoys, foreign ministries, etc. It has no clearly marked out boundaries of where its territory begins and ends. However, the Islamic State doesn’t need embassies and envoys because they have them in the form of coreligionists located in foreign lands ready to follow any commands issued by the Islamic State. They have no fixed boundaries because they do not intend to limit themselves to some confined territory. They have big and expansive ambitions. In order to recognize the triumph of the Islamic State, one must measure it, not against the standards of a modern state, but against what existed a long time ago. One would have to go back to the early Middle Ages Europe or better yet to Antiquity, when Rome battled such entities at the extremities of its empire.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 9:11 am

      In a sense, the Islamic State, which I prefer to call the New Caliphate, is more a nation of laws than the United States. I know this sounds crazy, but we live under dictatorship just as they, and that’s a fact. We do so by ignoring our laws, which before their retirement were revered back through the Founding Fathers to the Magna Carta delivered at Runnymede, the document that first put law above men.

      The New Calphs live under the dictatorship of Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi, we live under the dictatorship of a TV personality who can’t shut up. But at least the Moslems in the New Caliphate comply with their law, the Shariah. We can’t claim to comply with our law, the U.S. Constitution.

      Congratulations to the boys in the Levant and now the Maghreb for their integrity.

    • Mr. Sagacious says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 4:13 pm

      It’s a Mad Max World where ISIS is in control.

  3. Truth Seeker says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:25 am

    Many get carried away with the false Charges, Actions of US or another Non-Islamic Country is responsible for this sort of Terror Groups.
    In Facts, Jihadis follow, Quran Sura :8:65 “O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are t20 among you with determination they will vanquish 200; if there are a 100 then they will slaughter a 1000 unbelievers, for the Infidels are a people devoid of understanding.”
    Now World Muslim Population is more than 20%. It gave the Confidence, by Fight, World Caliphate can be achieved.
    Involving US or West in the Violences in Muslim Countries is Well Designed Conspiracy to Reduce the Might of US and other Countries of West.
    Similarly Muslim Migrants (Refugee or Otherwise) is also Conspiracy Jihad.
    Unfortunately US and Europe take Steps for the Success of these Types Conspiracies, and Digging own Grave..

  4. ECAW says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:26 am

    “But now the illiterate villager, content for centuries to visit the mud-hut mosque, has had his mental space invaded by, successively, radio, television, the Internet.”

    Yes, it looked like the massive increase in knowledge would lead to a polarisation with nominal Muslims either becoming hard line or apostasising. The increase in hard line Islam has happened but where is the mass apostasising? Doesn’t really look promising at the moment does it?

    • Oliver says

      Jun 29, 2015 at 7:29 pm

      I have Muslim apostate friends online, and they think it’s an increasing trend, but often people who don’t believe hide the fact due to not wanting trouble for it in their communities.

  5. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:36 am

    So if Caid Bej Essebsi in Tunisia, or Al-Sisi in Egypt, finds that he has to come down hard, closing mosques — but where do the imams and their followers go, because they do not disappear? — his ruthlessness is understandable. They are fighting to prevent a descent into chaos and murder…

    Chaos and murder, Islam in full glory. Meanwhile, as you pointed out yesterday, Moslems and their belief system are given the kindest of treatment in our media.

    The bloody epochal conundrum we find ourselves in, however, *does* by the logic of Islam extend beyond chaos and murder. Jannat, the Moslem porno heaven. The best thing for everybody concerned is for them all to rise up into the heavens and check into Jannat. And the sooner the better.

    There is no other way. If there is, somebody must let us in on the secret.

  6. duh_swami says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:46 am

    The iron fist…Hillary said, Mubarak must go, and he went, replaced by Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood with the help of Obama bin Hillary, which is why Egypt filed war crimes charges against them after Morsi was removed…Then Hillary said, Gaddafi must go, and he went,. Hillary said, ‘We came, we saw, he died, and then laughed…The Hillary said, Assad of Syria must go, and they are still working on that one. So what was the purpose of removing these ‘strong men’ who ruled with an iron fist purposely to keep their Islamics in check, because they knew what would happen if Islam got any upper hands…
    But thanks to Obama bin Hillary, they did get the upper hand except in Egypt where that is debatable…The motivations for all this are really murky…Someone needs to explain to the American people just why they did this and what America is gaining from it…

    • nicu says

      Jun 29, 2015 at 2:16 am

      USA getting unstable areas as they want it to start another war – look at Ukraine !

      All unstable areas had ” revolutions ” – supported by the CIA – all over the world – and all over there there were wars later .

      As an European citizen I only say it sucks : USA you are not the police of the world – keep out of other countries and they keep out of ours – I HOPE !

      When Ghaddafi still was alive there were no African ” refugees ” running over Europe – he once said that the ” arrogant Europeans will remember him someday when they realize who I kept away from them ” ( sorry for the bad translation .

      Why the so powerful US cannot stop ISIS while they ” brought democracy ” to so many countries ??? Cos Mr . Obama doesn’t want it and let American taxpayers pay for ISIS !

  7. Papa Whiskey says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:47 am

    All people need to keep their wits about them.

    And all people need to keep their weapons on them. The terrs in Garland, Texas were not stopped by a kind heart but by a cool hand — and a .45 automatic.

  8. Red Bee says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:50 am

    What prevents people to make the connection between text and deed is, in my opinion, the fact there is no consensus among politicians, scholars, etc. The electorate has no reliable information to decide whether Islam is a threat or not. How does one decide what is true and not true? One method is to consult the experts. Take for example the Protocols of Zion: I “know” this is a forgery made by the secret police of the Tzar because all historians and other experts agree on this. I did not investigate this myself, but I don’t have to because there is a near 100% consensus. With Islam the situation is totally different; experts, media, politicians and the like differ widely in their opinions. George W. Bush stated “Islam is peace”, Winston Churchill had a totally different view. So how can the layman decide who has got it right?

    To readers of Islam Watch it may seem strange Islam is not recognized for what it is but we we must reckon with the possibility the tactics of the Islamic propaganda machine work. They can create enough confusion to keep the electorate as it is: divided.

    On my website (click my name) I describe how I found my answer and invite visitors to do the same by taking a closer look at the Koran. The Koran is not just another religious book as many people probably assume, like I did. I focus on the fact the Koran repeats a couple of themes over and over again, like a drumbeat, and invite visitors to decide on their own what the effect is likely to be. Everybody can do that; you don’t need an expert because you are an expert yourself. The Islamic propaganda machine can’t make smoke screens here because my arguments are not theological, but psychological and can easily be verified.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 11:55 am

      What prevents people to make the connection between text and deed is, in my opinion, the fact there is no consensus among politicians, scholars, etc.

      From politicians we expect ignorance and dishonesty. You get what you vote for. But the so-called scholars, that’s another case. Society relies on these people to do their research and deliver honest results that account for all the relevant facts of the matter. Me, I have trouble calling Karen Armstrong and John Esposito scholars, for they are nothing of the kind. They are overpaid, underworked pompous asses who obtrude on the society that feeds and houses them with their dreams.

      For better or for worse, the scholar crowd has a heavy influence on what society knows and what decisions it makes. All we need to know is that Spencer and Fitzgerald have zero chance of becoming professors, not that they would even want to. They would not, er, fit it. Also, even a truthful college such as Hillsdale would have to pass on the two because of the security risk and costs their presence would bring with them.

      • Red Bee says

        Jun 28, 2015 at 12:47 pm

        As you say “You get what you vote for.” Therefore the electorate must become aware of the Islamic threat and vote accordingly. How are we going to make that happen? My tactic is to “remove the middle men”: the “scholars”, experts, journalists etc. We don’t need them. If one takes a closer look at the Koran it is immediately obvious what this is: poison. It is common sense really and recognizable to the vast majority.

        How are we going to engineer that? It does not have be a visit to my website, although it will help I like to think 🙂

        If you think of something, please let me know: http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/discussion/ or by e-mail.

        Greetings from the Netherlands

        • Wellington says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:36 pm

          I went to your website, Red Bee, and I agree with your three themes that dominate the Koran. It pretty much adds up to the spiritual version of Nazism, but instead of a master race you have (a la Netanyahu) a master faith with master believers. Thus it is not surprising that in Islamic law non-Muslims are the equivalent of human waste.

          As for Islam finally being marginalized and no longer a threat to the West, should this occur, and I certainly hope it does (actually it must or else), it will be from the ground-up, from the body politic finally getting sick to death (literally and metaphorically) of a truly horrible, freedom-crushing, control-freak religion, because so far the Western elites in the media, academia and in the political realm, with very few exceptions, have abysmally failed the West, whether in The Netherlands, America, Britain, France, Sweden, et al., though I think many of the elites down deep know they have let a spiritual cancer into the West though they can hardly admit it to themselves let alone to others. Still much woe ahead and for two reasons: 1) Islam; 2) willful ignorance about Islam. Get rid of 2) and dealing with 1) will become immeasurably easier, though still difficult.

          I see you’re form The Netherlands and I would just like to say how admirable Geert Wilders is. As I’ve said before here at JW, he’s the closest thing to Winston Churchill in Europe in our time. Take care.

    • Bamaguje says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 12:00 pm

      What prevents Western leaders from making the obvious connection between Islamic scriptures and Jihadi atrocities, is the nightmare of what to do with 1 billion potential terrorists.
      If Western leaders acknowledge that Islam is inherently violent and incompatible with Western values, then they are obliged to do something about it.
      In the politically correct multicultural West, none of the options are palatable:

      – Deny Islam the protected status of religion, and recognize it for what it clearly is – a dangerous subversive ideology that must be destroyed like Nazism and communism.
      – Ban mosques, Islamic schools and any propagation of Islam in the West.
      – Ban Muslim immigration, and expel even supposedly peaceful stealth Jihadists who try to “destroy the West from within.”
      – Impose economic sanctions and break diplomatic relations with intolerant Islamist nations like Saudi Arabia, Iran, Pakistan etc… until they guarantee unfettered religious freedom.

      It’s much easier for Western leaders to bury their heads in the sand and pretend Islam is a “religion of peace”, than take these politically incorrect actions to curtail Islam.

  9. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 9:59 am

    Hatred
    Hatred of the kuffar is INSTRUCTED in Islam.
    “The “excellent pattern” praised in Koran 60:4 is:
    “Between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone”.
    This is not optional:

    “It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision” (33:36).

    Anjem Choudary: “As a muslim I must have hatred for anything non-Islam” (except Social Security benefits).

  10. Edgar Allen says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 10:32 am

    “…the converts to Islam, those psychically and socially marginal non-Muslims who, in the projects or in the prisons of Europe and America meet Muslims and decide to join the Muslim gang, which gives them an instant Community of Bruvvers who will support and defend one another, provide a cause that justifies and reclassifies their crimes against the circumambient society as merely following the path of Allah — so that theft now is seen as helping yourself, in the absence of a Muslim ruler, to the Jizyah you deserve ”

    Muhamad’s earliest followers “converts”, were the criminal gangs of Medina, known as the Saalik. The biggest military boost Muhamad received came after he hooked up with 2 other criminal tribes from Medina, the Aus and the Khazraj. They made a living by attacking and robbing caravans, stealing and raping and plundering, and extracting protection money from the Jews of Medina. Muhamad promised them, in exhange of acknowleding his authority, to erase whatever debts they owed the Jews, and to form a partnership FOR THE PURPOSE OF PLUNDERING, ROBBING CARAVANS, AND TAKING SLAVES. This infamous pact, was made in 2 installments, about a year apart. Look it up under “The first pact od Aqaba” and the second pact of Aqaba”.

    Here’s a quote froma witness: “‘Abbas bin Ubada bin Nadlah, in this context, remarked: “O you people of Khazraj! Do you know the significance of the pact that you are entering into with this man? You are in fact avowing that you will fight against all and sundry.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_pledge_at_al-Aqabah

    • ECAW says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 1:01 pm

      Thanks for this – fascinating to see how Mohammed set about creating his gang of brigands, promising them paradise for warfare and assassinations and of course submission to him. 12 disciples too, just like Jesus but an evil mirror image

  11. Mark DeFord Eletion says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 10:40 am

    “What is it that prevents people from making the connection between text and deed?”

    The idea that there is only one god, combined with ignorance of others’ religions. If there is only one god, then it must be the same god for all current religions. That means that for any religious person who considers his own religion and god to be “good”, then everyone else’s religion and god must also be good, and to have the same basic moral concepts as his own.

    The error with this kind of thinking is that gods “exist” only in the imagination of individual believers, Each believer has his own god-image, which can vary a little to a lot from the next person’s.

  12. Ayatrollah says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 10:44 am

    The one place I find comfort is if we had the will to defeat “radical Islam” all we have to do is put a big fence around them, much like what Israel does. They can’t produce anything. Where do they get the means to wage war? They can’t produce them inside the “Muslim world”. They can’t even produce quran’s. The machines to print and bind them come from outside darl Islam.

  13. jayell says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 11:11 am

    “David Cameron says that these killings of Western sunbathers in Tunisia “were not committed in the name of Islam.” What else could he say, now that there are several million Muslims living in Great Britain, and he has to keep the peace?”….. Except that the “several million Muslims living in Great Britain” don’t seem to have much interest in “keeping the peace” but rather see Cameron’s efforts in this direction as ‘cowardice’ – since they know jolly well (and Cameron et al try to ignore) that they have a supremacist agenda, and they will interpret anything that looks like avoidance of confrontation as cowardly appeasement (which may well be the case as in the Authority’s non-reaction to the muslim paedophile-grooming scandal). I find it difficult to understand why Cameron and the rest of them can’t see that the enemy have now given us enough clear evidence to identify them and their motivation and take appropriate action, unless, of course, there are ‘other things’ on their agendas?

  14. Angemon says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 11:48 am

    Meanwhile, David Cameron says that these killings of Western sunbathers in Tunisia “were not committed in the name of Islam.” What else could he say, now that there are several million Muslims living in Great Britain, and he has to keep the peace?

    Assuming he doesn’t really believe that the islamic state is unislamic or that, as the Pope said, “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the quran are opposed to every form of violence”.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 12:25 pm

      … the Pope said, “authentic Islam and the proper reading of the quran are opposed to every form of violence”.

      Breathtaking not only in its mistakedness but also in its obtrusiveness. If you can’t check a fact, keep your mouth shut.

      Yesterday Fitzgerald touched upon the phenomenon (a very real one) where underlings are reluctant to bring their boss news that shows that public statements made by him are incorrect and even endangering to his constituency, or that he would find disturbing.

      Well, the pope is a boss, and the men toiling in the Holy See are his underlings. So the statement in all its inglorious spectacle is unsurprising. The Roman Catholic Church has made itself into a negative force on this earth. If Jesus saw this spectacle, he would rampage through the Vatican much like he did through the Temple.

  15. Voytek Gagalka says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    Excellent analysis, Mr. Fitzgerald! Sooner or later there will be battle which will determine fate of the civilization. Regardless of contemporary denials, hiding one’s head in the sand etc. Remember that it took more than 12 years feet-dragging near the end of 19th century for British to crash the Mahdi’s insurrection in Sudan (gen. Kitchener), and it was in much different era than today. Today with all that PC crap, moral relativism and multiculturalism it must take much longer, but as then as today there is no other solution! Enemy must be totally crashed for peace to prevail. Then – in Sudan, after battle of Omdurman – there was peace for more than 70 years. Not forever, mean that, but long enough. It cannot be forever because of the nature of humans who rather quickly fall into idle complicity and torpor and forget lessons of history.

  16. Rezali Mehil says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    Salaam Hugh,

    Are you new here? What makes you such an authority…where is Robert?

    You say ….I don’t thinks it is right to point out the “macabre observance of Ramadan”…

    Well Hugh,… it has been going on for over a 1400 years, do you know how hard it is to observe Ramadam…you obese Americans …would not last a day of Ramadan,..the intense heat , the black burqa in stifling heat and humidity. Please desist from such statement …try before you buy.

    You ask …. which is the real Islam?

    Well it is the same that it has always been …you try from childhood to build that special relationship with Allah SWT; one that of a slave. The inner spiritual struggle is to become an Abdullah (slave of Allah SWT) …what can be a greater honour than this…observance and submission to Allah …all else is false as you will not see the noor of Allah SWT without submission.

    Each night every muslim speaks in the ear of their children..Bismillah ..Bismillah (to begin the enormous undertaking of transforming your children to became an Abdullah). You need go no further than this definition because all else will not endear you to Allah SWT.

    You say …As long as there is Islam,…
    well ofcourse there will be an Islam…the Abdullahs will ensure this.

    They will attack the Shi’a, even Arab Shi’a, because for the Islamic State Sunnis, Shi’a are Infidels, perhaps even worse, in their hypocrisy, than the Christians and Jews.

    Well I hope they learn the error of their ways because as Shia are Abdullahs too….Perhaps you can spread this message in your next article.

    More Later …

    Rezali

    • Angemon says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 6:21 pm

      Rezali Mehil posted:

      “Well Hugh,… it has been going on for over a 1400 years, do you know how hard it is to observe Ramadam…you obese Americans …would not last a day of Ramadan,..the intense heat , the black burqa in stifling heat and humidity. Please desist from such statement …try before you buy.”

      Huh, didn’t you state in the past that Americans should convert to islam? Are you saying you were, in fact, advocating for the genocide of the American population?

      Also, America is not the Middle East, and ramadingdong moves from year to year. Read a book once in a while, mkay?

  17. Jack Diamond says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 5:57 pm

    “Salaam Hugh, Are you new here?”
    God you are dumb.

  18. jewdog says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 10:40 pm

    The reason that so many people in the West can’t admit that ISIS could be the real Islam is because they don’t understand Islam enough to make a substantive judgement, and so they simply project their own thoughts and feelings about religion onto Islam.
    The first step towards a sensible policy is to learn about Islam, and while doing so, withhold judgement until the analysis is complete. The next step is to come up with strategies that will defeat it, assuming that Islam is found to be malign.
    So far, we have had two presidents that just throw platitudes around. Maybe some day we’ll have a leader who understands Islam well enough to make constructive criticisms, and can come up with coherent policies.

  19. Smart Guy says

    Jun 29, 2015 at 4:17 am

    Same statement as before. Defense contractors according to “Confessions of an economic hit man”
    by Perkins. invested billions into Saudi Arabia which practices the most brutal form of Islam, Wahhabism.
    Defense contractors own the media, therefore to protect their investments in Saudi Arabia Americans are being brainwashed into believing that Islam is a “Religion of Peace” Defense contractors are only interested in making war because war makes money for them. That left-wingers are supporting this nonsense that Islam is a religion of peace only goes to prove that left-wingers are totally stupid.
    Left-wingers call the mainstream press the corporate press!!

  20. God Almighty says

    Jun 29, 2015 at 7:48 am

    According to a survey 41% of Muslims support ISIS. The other 59% are themselves members of ISIS.

  21. Plamen says

    Jun 29, 2015 at 12:54 pm

    Islam always smells the the vacuum.

    Arab Islam first wedged into the vacuum between Byzantine and Persian empires.
    Ottoman Islam thrust into the vacuum between Byzantines and Seljuks.
    IS islam shot up in the no-man land between Syria and Iraq.

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