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Tunisia: Islamic State jihadis murder at least 27 at resort hotels

Jun 26, 2015 8:55 am By Robert Spencer

Sousse-jihad attackThe majority of the victims appear to have been British Infidels on vacation, sure that all would be well since, after all, it is a Religion of Peace. “At least 27 tourists dead in Tunisian hotel attacks as gunmen ‘shoot people on sunbeds’ along beach packed with western holidaymakers,” by Thomas Burrows and John Hall, MailOnline, June 26, 2015:

Gunmen have killed at least 27 people in an attack on two hotels in the popular holiday destination of Sousse.

Militants, feared to be from ISIS, exchanged gunfire with security services on a beach packed with British holidaymakers.

The attack took place at the Al-Qantawi resort in the city of Sousse, located 140 kilometres south of the capital Tunis on the Mediterranean coast.

Rebecca Miles, a British tourist who was staying at the Royal Kenz hotel with her boyfriend Dean Anderson, 24, having arrived on Monday told MailOnline: ‘We were told to go back to our rooms because there were reports of a bomb.

‘It happened about half an hour ago – I heard a bang and I thought it was thunder but it was a clear sky so it obviously wasn’t.

‘I heard sirens going off about 20 minutes ago and everyone came running back from the private hotel beach which is about 400 metres from the hotel. Everyone is a bit clueless about what is happening.

‘People are anxious because they don’t really know what is happening and we are now stuck in our rooms. There have been deaths apparently.’

Sousse is a city on the east coast of Tunisia, about 87 miles (140km) south of the capital, Tunis.

Around 1.2 million tourists visit Sousse every year, drawn by the hotels, sandy beaches and culture.

Hotel complexes with 40,000 beds span from the old city to the Port El Kantaoui and the city is home to a Unesco-protected mosque, as well as a historic medina.

Boujaafar Beach stretches from the Gulf of Hammamet several miles north to Port El Kantaoui – a purpose-built resort with dozens of hotels including the El Mouradi Palm Marina, El Mouradi Palace and Riu Imperial Marhaba.

Fellow British tourist Gary Pine told Sky News said: ‘We thought fire crackers were going off but you could see quite quickly what was going on.

‘There was a mass exodus off the beach. My son was in the sea at the time and myself and my wife were shouting at him to get out and as he ran up he said I’ve just saw someone get shot.’

David Schofield said: ‘We heard quite a large explosion…People are running around the hotel. No-one has really been told what to do.’

Susan Rickett, who was staying at the Palm Marina Hotel near Sousse, said: ‘My sister was talking to someone who had seen some people shooting and had shot someone on a sun bed but we don’t know if that’s true.

‘It sounded like a machine gun going off… and there was a kind of explosion a little bit later.

‘They’re saying its going on in the hotel next to us. Police were chasing some men, that’s all I know.’…

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  1. cs says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:01 am

    “Tunisia: Islamic State jihadis murder at least 27 at resort hotels

    The majority of the victims appear to have been British Infidels on vacation.”

    ETRWTGRHTS.
    Stands for: Eager To Read What The Guardian Readers Have To Say.

    Oh and also to hear the lack of jobs & opportunity explanation (in reality increase on benefits welfare abuse, they don’t give a damn to work anyways).

    • Angemon says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 9:09 am

      cs posted:

      “ETRWTGRHTS.
      Stands for: Eager To Read What The Guardian Readers Have To Say.
      ”

      Lol!

    • Georg says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 9:17 am

      “Oh and also to hear the lack of jobs & opportunity explanation”

      Wait no longer, it was just said by pundit on BBC.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 10:14 am

        The mohammedan murderer was a *university student* ! Did the witless bbcrap mention that ?

        I can’t bear to listen to anything from the bbcrap; it sends my blood pressure through the roof.

        • TediNeo98 says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 12:36 pm

          I echo your sentiments Mirren. I am also wondering how many more deaths it will take before they get to the root of the problem – islam and it’s poisonous political ideology.

  2. Godwin says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:06 am

    Oh ! David Cameron n gang, what say u ? For the love of the Religion of peace ?

    • ECAW says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 9:17 am

      There can only be one response – beef up the hate speech laws.

      • David says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 12:01 pm

        And give the poor, depraved, misguided Muslims (I mean, youths) jobs and more social benefits (in other words, more of other people’s tax money) and if they choose to “migrate” to(invade) Eurabia we must fawningly give them the same, lest we all be imperialistic RACISTS who are conspiring to keep the dark-skinned peoples subjugated.

    • Jayke says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 10:31 am

      “The people who do these things, they sometimes claim to do it in the name of Islam,” Mr Cameron said. “They don’t. Islam is a religion of peace.”

      There you have it. The obligatory ROP reference from a dimwit. “Sometimes”???

      • The vilest of creatures says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 12:05 pm

        If Cameron had been PM back in 1940, I wonder if he would have said during the height of the Blitz:

        “The people who do these things, they sometimes claim to do it in the name of Nazism,” Mr Cameron said. “They don’t. Nazism is a ideology of peace.”

        • cs says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 12:15 pm

          Absolutely, I was just thinking on that.

        • TediNeo98 says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 2:57 pm

          Good one Vilest…I think we are paralleling the build up to WWII – the key difference is that the enemy is already here in our midst; afterall, we know that todays moderate muslim is tomorrow’s pious terrorist – how do we fight that, along with the clueless media, the government, the left…

        • Mirren10 says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 10:18 am

          vilest says;

          ”If Cameron had been PM back in 1940, I wonder if he would have said during the height of the Blitz:

          “The people who do these things, they sometimes claim to do it in the name of Nazism,” Mr Cameron said. “They don’t. Nazism is a ideology of peace.”

          If camoron had been PM, we would never have declared war on Germany in the first place. And camoron would have laid out the red carpet for the Nazi invaders.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 1, 2015 at 9:22 pm

      Not to worry, Godwin—Cameron has pledged a “full spectrum” response to the massacre:

      http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jun/29/tunisia-attack-david-cameron-pledges-full-spectrum-response-to-massacre

      How utterly meaningless…

  3. Eric Olsen says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:09 am

    At Easter and Christmas, Christians celebrate by singing and giving gifts. At Ramadan… they just kill. I think I’ll stick with Christianity!

    • Jaladhi says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 9:39 am

      Hey the “religion of murder” celebrates its unholy days by killing and murdering as they are taught everyday in their mosque!!

  4. Gary says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:10 am

    Hmmm….?

    I wonder…..?

    Is Paul referring to Muslims or Christians in the below verse….?

    “For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ! We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment.”
    1 Corinthians 4:9-13

    Oh Muslim, are you correct? Is the Bible “corrupted”?

    And how will you stand on Judgement Day before the Creator of the Universe – apart from Christ?

    “And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given to them, and the souls of those who have been beheaded because of the testimony of Jesus, and because of the word of God, and who did not bow before the beast, nor his image, and did not receive the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand, and they did live and reign with Christ the thousand years.”
    Revelation 20:4

  5. Georg says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Another shocking unislamic attack by pack of lone wolves??

    • mortimer says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 11:16 am

      What will it take for our politicians to realize that Islam per se is the problem?

      David Cameron’s kneejerk about ROP was depressing. Surely, he doesn’t believe it. I think most people don’t.

  6. Charli Main says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:23 am

    The attackers are now probably on a plank of wood paddling towards Europe and waiting to be ” rescued ” by the Italian navy.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 10:31 am

      You beat me to it, Chali. I was gonna say that this latest mass murder happened because the of the absence of the moderating influence of Unicorns caused by all of those vaunted steeds having sailed north to Italy, to enter the Land of War (Dar al-Harb) to be able to enjoy its apparently limitless welfare mooch pleasures.

      Sweden has Malmo, England has Birmingham. What will Italy have. Will they school up or dissipate? I hope not the latter, cuz then the Italian news entertainers will be on the TV set bemoaning the Moslem Diaspora. Better to have them go ahead and ruin a city or two than having to listen to such pious doggerel.

      • Agent of Liberty says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 10:41 am

        Alarmed pig Farmer, you have a great way with words!

    • cs says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 10:52 am

      Of course they will play the victim.
      image proposed: https://doctorbulldog.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/abu-hamza-jihadi-cry-baby.jpg

      As the peaceful Hothis who chant Death to America, Death to Israel and Curse the Jooooos. Then play the innocent loving cunts. Sick & Tired of it really.

  7. Jaladhi says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:36 am

    Do people here still have doubts thatMuslims are killers and murderers!! The West is so stupid in not recognizing this nature of Muslims and continue to let them emigrate to the West. This is only a sign of worse Muslim atrocities to come to USA. There is still time – stop Muslim immigration now!!

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 10:41 am

      Do people here still have doubts thatMuslims are killers and murderers!!

      Yes. For example, news entertainment superstar Bill O’Reilly has doubts, and he truthfully boasts all the time about having a degree from Harvard, so he’s smarter than you. The argument made by Bill and his ilk is that Moslems are just like us, but they have an especially nasty streak when they are messed with by negative forces such as “radical Islamists” who themselves are the product of poverty or some other oppression.

      It’s a confusing world, and the confused who have a microphone rule the mixed up dialogs that ensue when we go ahead and “have a conversation” about all the mix ups.

  8. umbra says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:41 am

    Another islamic hole that fatally demonstrates yet again why it is an islamic hole. Memories and reminder of dangers associated with islamic terrorism in tunisia, from the tunis museum attack, has faded away for so many.

  9. Agent of Liberty says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 10:37 am

    I knew this was going to happen. And it’s going to happen again and again. Unless we make Islam illegal. Shut it down!!!!

    • Tequila Not Taqiyya says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 2:15 pm

      True Islam is purely the problem. And the proof is that the more pious the Muslim is, the more dangerous he is.

  10. Richie says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 10:40 am

    will the BBC blame this on ‘Asian youth gangs’?

  11. William says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 10:46 am

    Let’s put the blame where the blame should be placed: the stupid white British infidels. They are the ones I blame, those who were killed and those who survived. The Mohammedans are only doing what comes natural to them. If people wade into shark infested water, do you blame the sharks for attacking and devouring them? Of course not. You blame the stupid people who disregarded better judgement and ignored the dangers. Any European tourist to a Mohammedan country needs to have his head examined. Furthermore, I know that Europe is becoming a dangerous place due to large-scale importation of Mohammedans, so pretty soon, an infidel will no longer need to wander into a Mohammedan country to be at significant risk of being murdered. I am afraid that the West is now made up largely of people who think like those tourists and as a result, I don’t see how the West is going to survive in the form it inherited from those who built it for too much longer.

    • Agent of Liberty says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 11:00 am

      Excellent view point! william

    • Alissa says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 12:00 pm

      I agree but those nitwits WOULD go into shark infested waters believing that sharks are poor misunderstood animals.

    • Know Thy Enemy says

      Jun 27, 2015 at 4:27 am

      “You blame the stupid people who disregarded better judgement and ignored the dangers.”

      I am not sure I will blame the common folks so fast, especially the Europeans. How could they “ignore the dangers” when they didn’t know of any dangers! Their leaders, the MSM, and the talkheads do NOT tell them of the dangers! Now you might say these tourists should have learnt from all the Islamic attacks that happen every other day, but the fact is that most people are too busy and unequipped to investigate things by themselves.

      Whenever some Islamic atrocity makes news, the public looks to the leaders and MSM for explanation, and we all know how honest, truthful, and free of bias the leaders and MSM are! (/sarc)

      Our leaders, whether in politics, media, or elsewhere, have repeatedly betrayed the trust that the public puts into them. They are the ones truly at fault.

      Note to readers: Please do not go on some mission to remove the leaders because currently their replacements are not likely to be any better; We would be back to square one, only weaker!

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 28, 2015 at 3:31 pm

        “I am not sure I will blame the common folks so fast, especially the Europeans. How could they “ignore the dangers” when they didn’t know of any dangers! Their leaders, the MSM, and the talkheads do NOT tell them of the dangers! Now you might say these tourists should have learnt from all the Islamic attacks that happen every other day, but the fact is that most people are too busy and unequipped to investigate things by themselves.”

        Nonsense. In the age of the Internet, no one has that excuse anymore.

        • Know Thy Enemy says

          Jun 29, 2015 at 12:22 am

          I am afraid you grossly underestimate the effect that tons of propaganda and obfuscation have on the average joe. Yes one can find the truth online **if s/he spends lot of time researching stuff**. How much time do you spend on the Internet each day, voeg? On my days off, I spend half my waking hours online. On workdays too I spend 2-3 hours online. How many people can afford to do that, especially if they are married and have family responsibilities.

          Also, one has to have suspicions regarding Islam. Without the suspicions, one will not actively look for Islam-negative material and as a result, will rarely come across anything anti-Islamic. On top of that, the taqiyya practicing Muslims present themselves as lovely people, which means that the average joe not only forgets whatever little Islam-criticism s/he read online but also ends up with a distrust of the Islam-negative sources.

          Muslims post an immense amount of obfuscation regarding Islam, both online and in the MSM. On top of that, the Left and the liberal-progressive useful idiots present their own obfuscations and propaganda. With so much taqiyya, obfuscations, and propaganda regarding Islam that the common folks come across, it is a miracle that a few find out the truth!

          Every time some Islamic atrocity occurs, why do you think the influential useful idiots for Islam come out with the “This has nothing to do with Islam” lies? Because they know that such disinformation works! The fact that so many people go as tourists to Islamic countries and have relationships with Muslims, both personal and business, should be evidence of this.

          The elder Boston bomber killed three of his Jewish friends some months before the bombings. Does one really think that those boys would have become such good friends with a Muslim if they had known the dangers? Would their parents have allowed the friendship? All those journalists and aid-workers whose killings at the hands of ISIS made news last year, would they have gone to Iraq if they had as good an idea of Islam-followers as we do?

          These non-Muslims are not stupid. They would never get involved with Muslims if they knew the truth! The fact is that they did not know…. they fell for the propaganda that is disseminated by our own leaders!

        • Know Thy Enemy says

          Jun 29, 2015 at 2:00 am

          I just came across Red Bee’s comment, and his webpage, in a different thread. On his page (link below) he has observed the same thing that I have noted. Posting verbatim from his page-

          “Is Islam a threat?”
          “It occurred to me that a large percentage of the electorate probably has the same problem answering the above question as I did: getting bogged down in endless debates, statistics, expert opinions, news articles, propaganda etc. all of which I can’t verify.”

          How many people have time to sort through this all?

          This is why I say that it is a miracle that some people successfully find the truth regarding Islam and its followers!

          Red Bee’s webpage- http://members.ziggo.nl/iiat/

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 2, 2015 at 4:13 pm

          Know Thy Enemy seems to be invoking the effects of propaganda in order to defend his notion that the Western masses do not retain responsibility for being remiss in their civic duty. As I said, however influential the PC MC worldview is, those who swallow and regurgitate it still have no excuse for doing so — in the free West. To continue grant them an excuse, one would then have to invoke a conspiracy theory to the effect that the West is no longer free because being held in the thrall of nefarious forces. This would be in impermissible speculation.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 2, 2015 at 4:22 pm

          “Is Islam a threat?”
          “It occurred to me that a large percentage of the electorate probably has the same problem answering the above question as I did: getting bogged down in endless debates, statistics, expert opinions, news articles, propaganda etc. all of which I can’t verify.”

          How many people have time to sort through this all?

          ***********

          Yes, this is why I realized, and became convinced a few years ago, that the biggest problem the Counter-Jihad has as it continues wage its War of Ideas (currently the most important theater in this world war we are in) is T.M.I. — Too Much Information.

          Too much, and too disorganized. There needs to be one source of all Counter-Jihad information — there needs to be a “Bible” to which all Counter-Jihad voices refer.

          This single source needs to contain two parts:

          1) information about how pernicious Islam is

          2) tactics to fend off the propaganda from those who defend Islam (i.e., the Islamopologists and their Useful Idiot Friends, the Western PC MCs).

          This single source needs to be digitized, for ready access on computers and phones.

          This single source to be effective must be the fruit of much expert labor from a team of people knowledgeable in various aspects of both 1 and 2. This would require motivation, mobilization and money from the Counter-Jihad. And before that occurs, there has to be awareness of the problem and interest in this solution — of which I continue to see signs of neither.

          Or, we can continue with our Business As Usual, with our collective pants around our ankles, our house in disarray, trying to wake up our pleasantly somnambulant West sleepwalking in its sincerely deluded self-righteous defense of Muslims as an Ethnic Culture perpetually endangered by the specter of white Western bigotry…

  12. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 10:49 am

    From leather to stormy weather, from necks to hecks, from over 50% to over the edge

    When Admiral Perry was dispatched by Jefferson to the Mediterranean to put an end to all the Jihad robbery and murder to American merchants sailing there, his Marines stormed Tipperary and quelled the Mujahidin. Jefferson was understandably concerned about the threat to the country’s ability to trade with Europe, then and still a critical component of the American economy. So, Jefferson frowned when he realized that over half the U.S. federal budget was spent on paying blood money to Moslems, and he responded with force.

    Here’s the problem: the Marines were dubbed Leathernecks because the Mujahidin were decapitating Perry’s guys with swords, so he had them wear neck braces made of thick leather to stop that. Some Marines still died of broken necks from the sword blows, but many survived.

    But, now that the Mujahidin have guns (invented and manufactured by Infidels) wearing leather neck braces would do no good. What I’m saying is, if the English tourists had worn neck braces made of thick leather as they lay on the beach, it wouldn’t have mattered because the Mujahidin would’ve just gone ahead and shot them to death.

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      Yes. I would add one thing; Jefferson was not merely concerned about jihad attacks on American ships & crew — but also on European ships & crew. The latter was one major reason why he finally got Europeans on board to help out, for he realized America could not do this alone.

      Indeed, Muslims had been attacking European ships not merely for years, not merely for decades, but for centuries. Not to mention that Muslims also raided coastlines from Greeece all the way to Spain, even a couple of times along the Atlantic coast of France clear up to England 00 and once as far as Iceland! When they raided coastlines, Muslims often tried to penetrate inland to attack villages in their razzias (raids), where they wrought exactly the kind of savagery which ISIS does now (sans modern Kafir technology, of course).

    • shams78 says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 3:15 pm

      Newsflash: Muslims were armed with guns centuries before the Barbary wars. They had muskets and used them alongside sword, just like westerners did. Westerners continued to used swords well into the 19th century as well especially in your Civil War. Swords were an effectively cavalry weapon and a melee weapon especially given the fact that muskets could only fire one shot before needing to be reloaded.

      Your historical illiteracy is amazing.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 1, 2015 at 10:02 pm

        And yet, the Americans and Europeans *did* beat back Muslim piracy in the Barbary Wars.

        The fact is that firearms are Infidel inventions, and the civilized West has outclassed you vile Mohammedans technologically for centuries.

        The only problem now is that we often lack lack the will and confidence to stand up against your hideous savagery.

        Yet not always; we have largely ended that second scourge of Muslim piracy, that waged off the Horn of Africa, and that just in the past few years.

        You don’t hear much about Somali pirates these days, since a consortium largely made of of the “filthy Kuffar” decided to end it.

        So, your gloating is premature…

        Note to other readers: “Shams” refers to Syria, and is often adopted by pious Muslims as a moniker related to support for ISIS.

        • shams78 says

          Jul 1, 2015 at 11:18 pm

          Cretinimage, the first gunpowder weapons were not invented in Europe. Arabs called saltpeter as “Chinese snow” because gunpowder originated in China, and so did the first rockets, fire arrows, and cannon.

          “Shams” means sun in Arabic.

          “Shaam” means the Levant and is used by every single Arabic speaker including Christians to refer to the area. You are claiming all Arabic speaking people support ISIS?

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 2, 2015 at 2:29 pm

          The nasty shams78 wrote:

          Cretinimage (sic), the first gunpowder weapons were not invented in Europe. Arabs called saltpeter as “Chinese snow” because gunpowder originated in China, and so did the first rockets, fire arrows, and cannon.
          ………………………………..

          I never said firearms were invented in Europe—I said they were invented by Infidels.

          Pious Mohammedans have always disdained innovation—Bi’da—but have often, as now, nonetheless been quick to adopt weaponry, although they will murder falafel sellers for dealing in something unknown to the barbarian “Prophet”.

          Despite this adoption, however, the stagnant Muslim world has been outclassed militarily by Infidels, particularly the West, for the past several centuries.

          More:

          “Shams” means sun in Arabic.

          “Shaam” means the Levant and is used by every single Arabic speaker including Christians to refer to the area. You are claiming all Arabic speaking people support ISIS?
          ………………………………..

          This is misleading. Yes, “Shams” does mean “sun”—there are also Arabic speakers named Shams.

          But the idea that the Levant is only referred to by “Shaam” is quite incorrect—Arabic famously has no written vowels.

          Moreover, ISIS rather infamously refers to itself as “ad-Dawla al-Islāmiyya fi al-‘Irāq wa-sh-Shām — the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham. So that’s the letter ‘S’ in ISIS”.

          http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-08/you-say-levant-i-say-sham-lets-call-whole-thing-greater-syria

          No double-a there.

          Many Arabic speakers, of course, refer to Syria or the Levant as “Shams” or “Shaam” with no reference to ISIS at all. It can certainly be used innocently.

          That being said, this is the most common reference in the West today, hands down. It is difficult to believe anyone would use this name with an English-speaking audience and fail to understand this immediate reference.

          Moreover, “Shams78” has been spouting the most appalling Muslim supremacy here at Jihad Watch. It is quite notable, in fact, that he in no way disavows ISIS here—even more damning, he has not a word of condemnation for the horrific Jihad massacre of unarmed Infidels in the story above. Very telling.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 2, 2015 at 4:28 pm

          gravenimage posted:

          “This is misleading. Yes, “Shams” does mean “sun”—there are also Arabic speakers named Shams.

          But the idea that the Levant is only referred to by “Shaam” is quite incorrect—Arabic famously has no written vowels.

          Moreover, ISIS rather infamously refers to itself as “ad-Dawla al-Islāmiyya fi al-‘Irāq wa-sh-Shām — the Islamic State of Iraq and Sham. So that’s the letter ‘S’ in ISIS”.”

          Also, this:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/12/death-to-all-juice-calling-for-genocide-with-plausible-deniability

          I’m sure you can see the parallel between the two situations.

          Also, I believe I told you this somewhere else, but remember mazo? Compare what he wrote with what “shams78” is writing. Perfect match.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Jun 27, 2015 at 5:59 am

      I know that it may be a long way to Tipperary – but they weren’t tha lost — I believe they hit Tripoli — just a hop, skip, and jump over a pool of blood from Benghai!

      • Budvarakbar says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 6:14 am

        ‘thaT lost’ and ‘BenghaZi’ — gotta remember that there is no edit option on this site

  13. zulu says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 11:03 am

    The attack in Tunisia came on the same day that a man was decapitated and several others injured in an attack with apparent Islamist connections at a factory in France. In Kuwait, Islamic State claimed responsibility for an explosion that struck a Shia mosque capital after Friday prayers.
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/26/one-dead-in-attack-on-french-factory

    France launches terror inquiry after decapitated body found in factory attack
    ‘It is a terror attack, there is no doubt about it,’ says François Hollande, as suspect is arrested after vehicle was crashed into factory containing gas bottles
    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/26/one-dead-in-attack-on-french-factory

  14. mortimer says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 11:07 am

    SUNBATHING PROVOKES MUSLIMS! The jihadists felt ‘provoked’ and so the tourists had it coming to them.
    The NYT should make an article about how Muslims have no control over their itchy trigger fingers when Europeans sunbathe! It’s the fault of the tourists.

    So, what does Islam say? “Turhibunna…terrorize them” (Koran 8.60) Terrorizing dirty kafirs is a good deed in Ramadan. The jihadists are inviting us to defeat them.

    By the way…RELAAAAAAAX…David Cameron just said the attack ‘is not Islam’. However, what does Islam say? “Turhibunna…terrorize them” (Koran 8.60)…but that isn’t Islamic.

  15. London Jim says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 11:12 am

    Greetings all if this posts. London’s LBC radio talkshow 97.30FM, 03456060973, has Ian Dale on the breaking news. I would love to call in, but can’t.

  16. miriamrove says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 11:38 am

    I hate to say this and sound like this, but why go to one of the most unstable countries on the planet where Jihadists are roaming free and then this. m

    • JamesonRocks says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 12:24 pm

      Greetings, M… It really is a great question! In part, perhaps the failure of politicians like Cameron and Obama to speak honestly about Islam is a contributing factor. The big lie (“Islam is a religion of peace.”) is usually easier swallow than the inconvenient truth.

      At any rate, there goes the Tunisian tourist trade.

      • miriamrove says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 12:53 pm

        The so called religion of peace that I was born into is all about destruction. Our spineless and dhimmi leaders like Obama keeps importing them as though we are importing fine Italian wines and fine french cheese. m

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 1:55 pm

        “At any rate, there goes the Tunisian tourist trade.”

        You vastly underestimate the ongoing naiveté of the average Westerner.

        • JamesonRocks says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 3:04 pm

          Sadly, Voegelinian, I am afraid you are correct…

    • Tequila Not Taqiyya says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 2:22 pm

      “but why go to one of the most unstable countries on the planet where Jihadists are roaming free”

      Cheap rooms.

      • SpiritOf1683 says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 5:07 pm

        They could give me the hotel for free and I wouldn’t go there.

        • Tequila Not Taqiyya says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 5:21 pm

          I wouldn’t go if they paid me a million dollars.

  17. William says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    David Cameron again says that Islam is a religion of peace. He is sticking to that narrative, no matter what, come hell or high water. The Jihadists say they kill the infidels in the name of Islam; yet David Cameron says the Jihadists are not killing infidels in the name of Islam. Whom should we believe? I would not rest my life or limb on Cameron’s bromide. People, we are living in an upside down world. I guarantee you the people murdered were of the same mindset as Cameron. That mindset is now the predominant one in the West. Friends, it’s over. I am throwing in the towel. I see no hope. And we deserve what is coming. I am like the passenger on the sinking Titanic, who made peace with his maker and peacefully, stoically waited for the inevitable and horrible end.

    • James Smith says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 12:52 pm

      The British Sheeple have been neutered by their Muslim-loving government. Obama is trying to do the same thing here, but will not succeed. It’s time for the Brits to stand up for themselves against the invasion that has come to their shores and the government that supports it.

      • Budvarakbar says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 6:11 am

        Obie doesn’thave to do anything — the utrid Bush uttered th lie heard aroiund the world – “That Islam is a religion of peace”

    • ECAW says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 1:04 pm

      “Friends, it’s over. I am throwing in the towel. I see no hope. And we deserve what is coming. I am like the passenger on the sinking Titanic, who made peace with his maker and peacefully, stoically waited for the inevitable and horrible end.”

      Rubbish! It’s hardly started yet. If you really feel like that, what are you doing here? The rest of us are trying to do something positive and can do without such miserable defeatism.

      • William says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 1:59 pm

        I know that I have a defeatist attitude, but bear with me. I feel like being in a besieged fortress where only a handful of fellow dwellers from among the whole townsfolk are even willing to acknowledge the enemy is outside the gates breaking it down. The majority of the townspeople are willing to let the enemy in due to the belief they hold that the invaders do not intend to take over the castle, only to come in and partake in some lively entertainment. If it were a situation like the Alamo where the defense was futile but everyone in the fortress was under no disillusion about the enemy, that would be encouraging. One could fight to the bitter end there. But how can you fight to defend something when the majority doesn’t even care? Who would you be fighting to defend beside yourself? Them? Would they be worth defending?

        • voegelinian says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm

          ” I feel like being in a besieged fortress where only a handful of fellow dwellers from among the whole townsfolk are even willing to acknowledge the enemy is outside the gates breaking it down.”

          I hate to make you even more depressed, but millions of the enemy are already inside the gates. Surely you knew that, and you were merely fixating on the logic of your metaphor and neglected to mention that…?

        • ECAW says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 2:23 pm

          “But how can you fight to defend something when the majority doesn’t even care?”

          Easily. For your own self respect. Anyone who follows English cricket gets used to limiting their ambitions to no more than that, as do English cricketers. It’s a good training for life.

          Besides, we’re in the early “own goals” phase of the struggle at the moment. The jihadis are waking up the populace more effectively than we can hope to. We don’t have to do anything except be patient, although trying to get the word out for when people of their own accord go looking on the internet won’t hurt.

    • Wellington says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 1:22 pm

      We do live in an upside-down world but why throw in the towel? Hell, and echoing ECAW, it’s not even the end of the first half yet. Besides, better to go down fighting than just giving up; better dead than a submissive dhimmi.

      And something else: I strongly believe that long term liberty will prevail, Islam will be overwhelmingly discredited throughout the world, and man will then move on to yet another menace which it will underestimate and, just as with Islam, pay a much higher price than necessary for doing so. It’s something of a paradox in that man never learns and yet man prevails.

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 2:06 pm

        One doesn’t merely “discredit” a group of Muslims rampaging through, say, a shopping mall to stab, shoot, and behead people at random. One repels them with force, and one also tries to figure out ways to protect one’s society from their co-religionists at large who are not (currently) stabbing, shooting or beheading anyone. Wellington speaks in lofty abstract tones, as though Muslims will simply be “dicredited” and then pack up and leave us alone.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 3:16 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Wellington speaks in lofty abstract tones, as though Muslims will simply be “dicredited” and then pack up and leave us alone.”

          Wellington spoke nothing about discrediting muslims. He said, and I quote, ” I strongly believe that long term liberty will prevail, Islam will be overwhelmingly discredited throughout the world”. You may not realize how things actually take place outside of your ivory tower, but getting the average Joe on the street to realize that islam is different from all other major religions in the sense that it lacks a Golden Rule and has a developed doctrine of warfare against non-believers would do wonders to pass anti-islamization measures, like halting muslim immigration or making it easier to deport muslim criminals.

        • Wellington says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 4:16 pm

          I have never even remotely, voegelinian, maintained that it will be as simple as Muslims being discredited and then they will go away and leave us alone. I have asserted that we are in a new Hundred Years War and that it will be a very bloody affair and that Islam will not go quietly into the night. How you can, from my many posts here at JW, conclude what you did about my take on Islam and Muslims is beyond me. In fact, and I assert this again, I believe the only major difference between you and me is that you are for mass deportation of Muslims from America (and other Western nations) and I find this “solution” impractical, at least currently illegal and unconstitutional and also unnecessary for reasons I have stated sundry times to you.

      • Angemon says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 3:03 pm

        My feelings exactly, Wellington.

        • Wellington says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 5:18 pm

          Thank you, Angemon, for both your 3:03 and 3:16 P.M. posts.

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 28, 2015 at 4:24 pm

        “I believe the only major difference between you and me is that you are for mass deportation of Muslims from America (and other Western nations) and I find this “solution” impractical, at least currently illegal and unconstitutional and also unnecessary for reasons I have stated sundry times to you.”

        By analogy, consider a tenant of an apartment in a large apartment building.

        Given one set of circumstances, it would be both impractical and it would violate the Landlord/Tenant laws for the tenant to douse his entire apartment with water from sprinklers and hoses, as well as fire extinguishers. That set of circumstances would be if his apartment were not on fire and evidence could be produced indicating he had no good reason to think his apartment was on fire. If the apartment were on fire, that would be another story. Wellington apparently has in his mind a perspective on what are the nature & dimensions of the threat from Muslims leading him to conclude that the apartment, so to speak, is not on fire.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 4:50 pm

          What a crappy analogy, voeg. We’re not talking about fire in an apartment, water sprinklers or tenant laws. Where would you deport an American convert to islam that could trace his ancestry back to the pre-Columbian era? There’s no equivalent to that plausible, practical application of your suggestion in your analogy.

          Wellington has shown to possess a much clearer knowledge of the threat of islam in the West than you could ever dream having, and he has much more knowledge than you when it comes to American Law, although you refuse to acknowledge it. He has also shown to be pragmatic, hence why he’s not trying to “push a meme” when he knows there’s no chance of actually implementing it.

          You, on the other hand, are a poor thinker who can’t answer valid criticism, and you need to rely on sleights-of-hand and attempted character assassination to try to mask it. Have fun running your one-man propaganda machine.

        • Champ says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:00 pm

          ‘voeg’ is constantly finding (false) fault with Wellington …

          And a few days ago ‘voeg’ was chiding Wellington for NOT coming to his defense. Wow talk about arrogant!

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:07 pm

          Champ posted:

          “And a few days ago ‘voeg’ was chiding Wellington for NOT coming to his defense. Wow talk about arrogant!”

          That’s an interesting story on its own. A few months ago, voeg would go like this (and I’m paraphrasing):

          “why aren’t people like gravenimage, whom I considered as friends, coming to defend me from Angemon and Philip Jihadski and tell them to stop attacking me?”

          Now he goes like this (once again, paraphrasing):

          “why aren’t people like gravenimage or Wellington, who are frinds to Angemon and Philip Jihadski, coming to tell Angemon and Philip Jihadski not to attack me?”

          As if his rewording made it any better or changed the core concept of what he wanted others to do…

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 2:01 pm

      “David Cameron again says that Islam is a religion of peace. He is sticking to that narrative, no matter what, come hell or high water.”

      It’s not as though he’s alone in that sentiment. The entire mainstream West all around him sustains that narrative, in a thousand ways, all day long.

      Indeed, Cameron is just going with the flow. But, of course, we sense a faint urgency and anxiety in between the lines when Cameron assures the public of this narrative, as though he’s doing his part to try to shore up a leaky boat (and indeed he is, and that leaky boat is the PC MC paradigm, otherwise known as the H.M.S. Titanic).

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 1, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      William wrote:

      I am throwing in the towel. I see no hope. And we deserve what is coming. I am like the passenger on the sinking Titanic, who made peace with his maker and peacefully, stoically waited for the inevitable and horrible end.
      ………………………….

      The end is *not* inevitable—not unless we accept it as such.

      Right now, Britain is around 5% Muslim—an appalling figure, but *hardly* a majority.

      Spain, Portugal, Sicily, Greece, the Balkans, and Israel were at various times under full Muslim conquest—often *for centuries*. Yet they fought back, and prevailed.

      What we are lacking now is vision and will—but we have marshaled them in the past, and can do so again—so long as we do not accept defeat.

      More:

      But how can you fight to defend something when the majority doesn’t even care? Who would you be fighting to defend beside yourself? Them? Would they be worth defending?
      ………………………….

      Are you familiar with the response to Fascism in the West throughout most of the 1920s and ’30s? Many—including those in authority and in the media—considered Hitler to be benign or even benignant, and excoriated those who recognized the danger, such as Churchill, as hysterical or even “warmongers”.

      Churchill and the other brave “premature Anti-Fascists” *did not stop*—they knew the Nazis were a danger, and they wanted to protect themselves, their civilized societies, and—yes—all the clueless naifs who would suffer under Hitler.

      They finally prevailed, against terrifying odds.

      Can we do anything less?

  18. Kevin says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    “That mindset is now the predominant one in the West. Friends, it’s over. I am throwing in the towel. I see no hope. And we deserve what is coming. I am like the passenger on the sinking Titanic, who made peace with his maker and peacefully, stoically waited for the inevitable and horrible end.”

    Join us in Texas, William. Garland went well.

  19. voegelinian says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:38 pm

    “The majority of the victims appear to have been British Infidels on vacation, sure that all would be well since, after all, it is a Religion of Peace”

    No doubt most of the British tourists also thought “Tunisia is one of those Moderate Muslim countries, where Muslims are less extremist, so everything will be fine here…”

    • Peggy says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 10:49 pm

      If by now they still believed that crap then they were a liability to peace in their own country and removing them was not a big loss.
      People who went there to enjoy the atmosphere were most likely the ones who voted for Cameron.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 10:35 am

        ”If by now they still believed that crap then they were a liability to peace in their own country and removing them was not a big loss.”

        What evil and repulsive crap. Being naive and foolish does *not* merit being murdered.

        ”People who went there to enjoy the atmosphere were most likely the ones who voted for Cameron.”

        So, according to you, they **deserved to be murdered**. You are *sickening*.

        • Peggy says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:39 am

          If you say so.
          With so much proof about Islam being very evil and dangerous why do people still go to Muslim countries.
          These people are not naive but STUPID. When it’s in your face day after day and you still think that Muslims can be trusted then you are the problem. It’s people like them who vote for idiots who are making our countries more and more dangerous so where is the loss?
          If by now they don’t get it then we are safer without them for they will join forces with Muslims to fight us because they see us as dangerous.
          I would rather they pay than me or my kids.
          Tolerance of evil will get us all killed.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 2, 2015 at 3:23 pm

          Mirren is quite right. It is appalling that anyone is crowing over the murder of innocent Infidels by ravening Jihadists.

          And even if you care nothing for them, their murders will just further embolden Jihadists, who are coming after *all of us*.

  20. ConnectingDots says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:40 pm

    “…the city is home to a Unesco-protected mosque…”

    Seriously, Daily Mail?

    Do you seriously believe that UNESCO protects anything?

    Oops, your gullibility is showing.

  21. Gene says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    When planning a vacation, Tunisia and Libya are aways at the top of my list.

    I suspect that the victims got their news from the traditional liberal news sources, which don’t report what actually happens in Muslim countries. They avoided the hateful reports put out by more reliable sources and paid with their lives. The British government will, most likely, do nothing because it would go against the official policy that Islam is a wonderfully peaceful and tolerant religion. The government will keep the people in the dark and this will happen again.

  22. Mark says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 2:10 pm

    I can’t understand why anyone would go on holiday to a Muslim country

  23. Veracious_one says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    Everyone is a bit clueless about what is happening……..DOH!!!!!

  24. SpiritOf1683 says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    And now the death toll has gone up to 38, with a terrorist attack in Lyon thrown in for good measure. Religion of peace? Pah!

  25. fido says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    Book your Tunisian gettaway today!! Hot sun, hot sand, hot bullets piercing your skull!!

    Oh those islamo-satanists, they sure know how to spice up a vacation! I bet their bookings soar now!!

  26. Enragedsince1999 says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    Sleazebag David “Chamberlain” Cameron: tell us again how Islam is a “religion of peace”. Other English dhimmi sociopaths: enjoying “peace in your time” with the Muslims yet? Crucifying the Christian Serbia to kiss-up to the Muslims is all you are good for, you base, cowardly criminals.

    Ruslan Tokhchukov, EnragedSince1999.

  27. Myxlplik says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    I do believe this is one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen, second only to the general immigration policies of the West in regards to Muslims.

    • Myxlplik says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:16 pm

      …looking at the bright side though, it appears that there are 27 fewer votes for labour, because these liberal imbeciles talked the talk and walked the walk. Sucks being mislead.

      • Budvarakbar says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 6:39 am

        And they are most likely union and / or gov’t employees / retirees and will therefore be less of a burden on the taxpayer

        • Peggy says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:46 am

          Nobody said that. Please don’t put words in anyone’s mouth.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 10:43 am

        Myxlplik says;

        ”…looking at the bright side though, it appears that there are 27 fewer votes for labour, because these liberal imbeciles talked the talk and walked the walk.”

        You know nothing whatsoever about how these people voted, or whether or not they were ‘liberals’.

        Even if they were, does that mean they deserved to be *murdered* ? You’re as sickening as the wretched ‘peggy’.

        Budvarakbar says;

        ”And they are most likely union and / or gov’t employees / retirees and will therefore be less of a burden on the taxpayer”

        Ditto for you. You know absolutely *nothing* about these poor murdered people, but you think they deserve to be *murdered*.

        • Myxlplik says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 11:15 am

          It’s a safe bet Mirren, that for the sake of argument, BNP voters would be smart enough to avoid traveling to an Islamic country for a good sunbathe, because they typically understand culture in less politically correct terms.

          Only liberals would be this purposefully ignorant, it’s just true, sorry the irony of it offends.

        • Myxlplik says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 12:23 pm

          & I’m sure the other guy was being sarcastic.

        • Peggy says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:45 am

          People who are working towards eradicating Islam or trying to vote for people who are going to stop them are not the ones traveling to their countries. it’s the stupid ones who are doing it and they are also likely to be the problem too. They are probably the ones who come out protesting against us who are trying to warn everyone about the dangers. They would most likely be the ones who would put you and me in jail for what we are saying about Islam here so yes, the less of those we have the less support Islam has.
          If you can’t see them as part of the problem then you are very naive.
          BTW, call me whatever you want because it only shows that you can argue with insults. it’s the not so bright ones who have to use insults and bad language (I didn’t say you used bad language) that cannot argue with reason.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 2, 2015 at 1:36 am

          Mirren is quite right—it is appalling that anyone is celebrating the murder of Innocent Infidels at the hands of Muslim savages. And moreover, this emboldens Mohammedan barbarians to come after *all of us*.

  28. Charles Martel says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 9:50 pm

    Something occurred to me today as I read, with sickening dread, the latest outrage perpetrated against us by our “friends” from the “religion of peace”. In particular I noticed that accompanying this article were several published on Huffington Post, CNN, Salon and other mainstream media appearing to champion the delights and wonders of Islam. I’m referring to articles about Islamic beauty pageants, Muslim shop owners facing “discrimination” and the like. It really seems as though the more horrific the violence waged against us, the more Islamofacile we become. Is the steel in our spine melting into pudding or butter? These days I can’t tell which.

    • OldNorthState says

      Jun 27, 2015 at 7:17 am

      Today’s typical “liberal” aspires to be perceived as “nice” and “kind” humanists by their peers, having established their own sordid precedents and benchmarks for such (until it doesn’t fit their agenda, that is). The same “Stockholm syndrome”-inflicted lib will quickly turn upon a Christian, a patriot or conservative (particularly if all-in-one) with a near-violence of rhetoric that wilts every fig tree in proximity. Various neuroses (and worse) obviously run rampant within their larger group, giving validity to Michael Savage’s original claim that “Liberalism is a mental disorder”, which he did not offer up as humor. And then there are the rest of us, who even allow these tyrannical nutcases to “rule” us, anymore. I think something must be in the water…

    • Shane says

      Jun 27, 2015 at 11:26 am

      We should encourage these liberal dhimmis to vacation in Muslim countries and advise all other Westerners to stay out of Muslim countries. The Muslim world is filled with hatred for Western infidels so the smart infidel does not vacation in Muslim countries. Vacation in the Americas, where thankfully there are few Muslims.

  29. Davegreybeard says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 12:20 am

    @voegelinian
    “One doesn’t merely “discredit” a group of Muslims rampaging through, say, a shopping mall to stab, shoot, and behead people at random. One repels them with force…”

    Of course, you are 100% correct in this assessment voeg.

    But since YOU brought it up, exactly what role do YOU expect to play when the real drama goes down?

    When the Jihadi’s begin their murderous shooting, stabbing, beheading rampage, that happens so fast and is so HORRIFIC that you cannot believe that it REALLY IS HAPPENING and that you really are there – will you resist? Will you do ANYTHING to save your miserable, quivering Infidel hide?

    Will you do what is necessary when mortal fear suddenly appears in your belly like a huge cold stone and grips your throat so you cannot scream or even speak?

    Will you have the fortitude draw your pistol and return quick and accurate fire? You know, that pistol that you have trained with countless hours, just for this occasion?

    Do you even own a pistol voeg?

    • voegelinian says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      If the problem of Muslims were as delimited as Davesgreybeard seems to make it out to be — a problem of a criminal attack on little old me — we could pack up this whole Jihad Watch thing and do more interesting and pleasant things with our lives. The actual problem of Muslims following their Islam (and what Muslims don’t follow their Islam?) is one of such magnitude and complexity quantitatively & qualitatively (see my analysis at http://tiny.cc/pboxzx — an analysis which likely is over-simplifying the nature & dimensions of the phenomenon) is a world war against our collection of societies (i.e., the West not to mention the Rest of the free world). We will not prevail against this millennial threat unless all the organs & institutions of our society rally and are deployed — not only concerned citizens with guns, not only law enforcement, not only federal intelligence agencies, but also our armies, our political representatives, our news media, our general popular culture (remember how important radio, movies books, magazines, newspapers and serials were to rally morale and inform the public during WW2). And for this to happen, our various Western societies and their cultures (unified by an intangible yet very real sense of identity) will have to wake up from their gravely ridiculous somnambulism. This doesn’t mean I think the process of waking up will be quick or perfectly unanimous (but I can already hear the PJ Peanut Gallery building that particular Straw Man). But without a general consensus throughout the West that realizes — in an informed way unemcumbered by PC MC whitewash hogwash — the nature of the danger, the West will likely not prevai. Of course, some in the Counter-Jihad don’t expect their West to prevail — they have become so alienated from the structures of their civilization they have lost hope and take comfort in a Mad Max apocalyptic future of Every Mann For Himself — fighting against both Muslims and Marxist Obamabots sent to destroy them. As much as a rail against the West in exasperation at its currently fashionable Weltanschauung of PC MC, I have more faith in my West than the Apocalyptic Wing of the Counter-Jihad, I guess.

      • gravenimage says

        Jul 1, 2015 at 4:44 pm

        Voeg, I have also heard a few Counter Jihadists flogging the “Mad Max” vision of the future—a handful, disturbing, actually appear to relish the prospect.

        But I don’t believe that this was what Davegreybeard was positing, at all—he is, in fact, a staunch defender of American values—he was simply talking about a Jihad terror attack such as we have already seen at the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, the Beslan School in Russia, in the streets of Mumbai, or the Charlie Hebdo massacre in Paris.

        We don’t have to wait for any apocalyptic dystopia here—this is already happening.

        I certainly agree that there is much more to resisting Islam than just dealing with Jihad terror attacks—but Davegreybeard is quite correct that this is a major aspect of it.

        (and I say this as someone, who, I must confess, is still personally woefully unprepared for such a scenario).

        • Angemon says

          Jul 1, 2015 at 6:19 pm

          gravenimage posted:

          “Voeg, I have also heard a few Counter Jihadists flogging the “Mad Max” vision of the future—a handful, disturbing, actually appear to relish the prospect.”

          Survivalism is fashionable. There’s a show on National Geographic called Doomsday Preppers – it’s about people preparing for the apocalypse. There’s all kinds of possible apocalypses they prepare themselves against, so I don’t find it weird or worrisome that a couple of CJ’s are counted among the prepper crowd.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 1, 2015 at 8:30 pm

          Angemon, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with prepping for disaster, either. Living here in earthquake country, this is something I think about, as well.

          But there are a few—not many—who consider the fight against Jihad to be purely physical, i.e., surviving violent Muslim attacks, and would appear to be fine with a complete breakdown of society as long as we are well armed to resist violent Muslims.

          But I believe there is more to defending against Islam than that—I also want to preserve our civilized Western values and institutions.

          I believe this is true of most Anti-Jihadists.

          And, of course, this need not be either/or—ideally, we should be prepared to defend our values on multiple fronts: in the courts, in the schools, in the media, in the public square, and, when necessary, in the form of physical defense as well—either by military, security, and law enforcement, but also on an individual basis when necessary.

          One of the things that struck me in reading the accounts above is how clueless and passive all of the Western guests interviewed sounded—they weren’t just lacking details of the attack; they desperately wanted someone in authority to tell them what to do. This passivity in the face of Jihad aggression is, of course, terribly dangerous.

  30. tilda says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 1:03 am

    The Prime Minister of Tunisia has said that mosques operating outside the control of the ministry of religious affairs will be immediately shut down.

    If they majority Muslim countries are willing to clamp down then why not in the west?

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/27/tunisia-prime-minister-to-shut-mosques-inciting-terrorism-as-isis-claims-attack

  31. Isabella says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 5:31 am

    Why do people go to Tunisia now? I knew before this tragedy happened that this country is no longer safe!!!!! I guess people have forgotten the meaning of the word BOYCOTT.

  32. parag joshi says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 9:40 am

    I made a decision last year to never ever visit a muslim majority country as a tourist. Why don’t the others get it. What’s the point of spending our website tourist dollars on them and at the same time jeopardising our infidel lives ?

    • Angemon says

      Jun 27, 2015 at 8:25 pm

      parag joshi posted:

      “I made a decision last year to never ever visit a muslim majority country as a tourist.”

      Same here.

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 28, 2015 at 3:03 pm

        Perhaps our tough-as-nails no-nonsense warrior Phillip Jihadski will make the same pledge along with parag joshi and Angemon; I mean, what would prevent him from gallivanting around to Muslim countries so often as he does…?

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 4:10 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Perhaps our tough-as-nails no-nonsense warrior Phillip Jihadski will make the same pledge along with parag joshi and Angemon; I mean, what would prevent him from gallivanting around to Muslim countries so often as he does…?”

          Let’s see:

          – PJ stated on several occasions that he goes there on work and doesn’t stay there more than necessary. He made no attempts to hide it, this is why voegelinian, as well as other regulars, know PJ goes there on the first place – PJ often speaks of his experiences there and of his interactions with local muslims, and none of the stories he shared with us is in the context of a tourist on a foreign country.

          Ergo, I suspect that if he wasn’t paid to go there he wouldn’t go. A fair assumption to make, and I wonder why someone like voeg, who has hundreds, if not thousands, of posts where he makes “deductions” based on what others post, had to ask something as basic as that. I narrowed it down to:

          – voeg knows PJ goes there on work but truth means nothing to him and he just wants to cast suspicions on PJ to undermine him, as voeg has done several times before, and not just to PJ.

          Also notice that voeg doesn’t actually make the pledge he expects PJ to do. Hypocrisy much?

  33. Mirren10 says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 10:10 am

    ”Essid identified the gunman, who was killed by police after the attack, as Seifeddine Rezgui, a young student at Kairouan University from the town of Gaafour in the governorate of Siliana.” (from the grauniad)

    But I thought jihad was caused by lack of education and poverty ?

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