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UK: Husbands of Muslimas who fled to ISIS say UK police “radicalized” their wives

Jun 21, 2015 2:17 pm By Robert Spencer

Mohammed Shoaib and Akhtar Iqbal“They also blamed ‘oppressive police surveillance’ for the fact that the sisters and their nine children aged three to 15, had left the UK.” If they hadn’t been watched, they wouldn’t have done anything worth watching, you see.

This is an audacious attempt to claim victim status and deflect scrutiny from these women’s families and mosque. Given the abject state of Britain today, it will probably work, and serve to erode counter-terror efforts even furth”UK terror police ‘radicalised and groomed our ISIS runaway wives’: Husbands blame security services for women fleeing to Syria with their nine children,” by Abul Taher and Brendan Carlin, The Mail on Sunday, June 20, 2015:

Downing Street tonight denounced as ‘wrong and dangerous’ a claim that British police ‘actively encouraged and promoted’ the radicalisation of three sisters who took their children to join Islamic State terrorists last week.

The suggestion by two of the women’s husbands that the police played a part in sending them towards IS by encouraging contact with their radicalised brother in Syria was also angrily rejected by senior officers and branded ‘ludicrous’ by MPs.

Lawyers for Mohammed Shoaib, 39, and Akhtar Iqbal, 48, have written to the Home and Foreign Secretaries, and chairman of the Home Affairs Committee, Keith Vaz.

The letter said: ‘We are alarmed by the fact that the police have been actively promoting and encouraging contact with the brother-in-law of our clients whom, it is believed, is fighting in Syria.

‘It would appear that there has been a reckless disregard as to the consequences of any such contact on the families.

‘Plainly the North East Counter-Terrorism Unit (Nectu) has been complicit in the grooming and radicalising of the women.’

In the letter, a copy of which has been obtained by The Mail on Sunday, they also blamed ‘oppressive police surveillance’ for the fact that the sisters and their nine children aged three to 15, had left the UK.

It continues: ‘The actions and misjudgment of the Nectu has placed the lives of 12 British citizens at risk, nine of whom are innocent children.’

The astonishing allegation, through the men’s lawyers, came only a day after David Cameron bluntly told British Muslims that some in their community ‘quietly condone’ extremism by failing to speak out against the ‘poisonous ideology’ of Islamic State….

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  1. Caroline says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm

    These people are like children. They are incapable of taking any responsibility for their own actions and consequences. They want the British state to provide everything for them, which it obligingly does, they then start crying when they make the wrong choices. Male first cousins imported for marriage purposes, at least one of the sisters was fleeing an unhappy marriage. As Britain is still just about a free country, these woman were free to leave anytime they wanted. Heck, their husbands even drove them to the airport. I just hope they never return.

    • Anglosaxon says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 3:52 pm

      hear hear

    • TediNeo98 says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 4:03 pm

      I have no doubt that they will still receive their child benefits from the state and then send the money out to Syria instead. If employed, then I have no doubt that they will still claim tax credits…honestly, they should be deported & I don’t care where they send them to either. Bunch of wittering men who now blame the police…makes my blood boil. I cannot explain just how much I despise everything islam & sharia law stands for.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 5:21 pm

      Caroline wrote that they are like children.

      Naturally, Sharia law says a dirty kafir may not criticize a Muslim, but Muslims can slander the dirty kafirs.

      The dirty kafirs are always to blame for everything that goes wrong.

      Blaming Islam or Muslims is blasphemy.

    • cs says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 6:01 pm

      “It’s always someone else’s fault, especially those nasty British police. Why do these people live here? It’s because they get the both worlds, they don’t have the oppression of living in a Muslim country, they get given whatever they want from the authorities and they can throw it all back in our faces and blame us for the shortcomings of their communities.”

      Typical comment on the daily mail. For everyone to see.

      Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3132915/UK-terror-police-radicalised-groomed-runaway-wives-Shock-claim-husbands-women-fled-Syria-children.html#ixzz3djjQiBB1
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    • Annak says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 10:16 pm

      @ Caroline : yes totally agree. Your description up to the end of your third sentence describes our fellow leftist citizens too.

      • Annak says

        Jun 21, 2015 at 10:17 pm

        I mean leftist fellow citizens !

    • Lee says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 5:04 am

      Hi Caroline. I have to disagree that these Muslims are like children. They’re like Nazis settled into Britain during WWII. Naturally they’ll look for any way possible to undermine the country their kind are at war with.

      Muslims always blame the people they’re at war with, for *everything*. This isn’t because they’re children, or irresponsible. It’s because they’re at war. Why would Nazis blame themselves? If we have a problem with some Muslim Nazis committing crimes against humanity with the Islamic State, why would the stay-at-home Muslim Nazis blame their fellow Muslim Nazis, or *anything* to do with Muslim Nazism?

      The dreadful thing is how incredibly easy Muslims have it, in spreading their crudely manipulative propaganda on the masses through their journalist friends. Not that the masses have completely fallen for it, despite the last 14 years of non-stop Islamic propaganda, and concealment of Islamic Jihad ideology.

      • Caroline says

        Jun 22, 2015 at 6:47 am

        I agree, the Islamists are just like Nazis. I don’t individual Muslims are clever enough to develop their own agenda, the Victimhood narrative is easy for them to follow, like sheep.

        • particolor says

          Jun 22, 2015 at 7:33 am

          I wonder who supplied the Onions for the Tear Fest ?? 🙂

    • Shane says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 9:51 am

      I wish the police did do that. It only makes sense to encourage Muslims to leave and join the Caliphate. Get them out of the West and off our welfare rolls.

      • Draki says

        Jun 22, 2015 at 9:55 am

        Pretty funny solution if it’s true right? Cops convincing wives to grab the kids and go join a jihad far away. I don’t know how true it is, but saying that a surveillance program made them radicalized is dumb too.

  2. Westman says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:35 pm

    Truly astonishing for men who believe a woman’s value is half that of a man. Such innocence; it’s all the fault of the infidels, always. These fellows won’t admit their part of a ruined relationship.

    And what lies under the lies that all was well within marriages that provided the impetus to drive women through the complexity, rigorous effort, and expense of moving children to another country? Will we ever know?

    One thing is certain, the Taqiyya flowing is so volumous and thick that only the dimwitted will accept it as fact.

  3. Theodoric says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:41 pm

    The “‘poisonous ideology’ of Islamic State” is called ISLAM. Why doesn’t CAMERON speak out against it?

  4. Angemon says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    <blockquote<Downing Street tonight denounced as ‘wrong and dangerous’ a claim that British police ‘actively encouraged and promoted’ the radicalisation of three sisters who took their children to join Islamic State terrorists last week.

    They should call it for what it is: an outright lie and attempt at misdirection which, in a sane society, would warrant the husbands to be placed under scrutiny.

    In the letter, a copy of which has been obtained by The Mail on Sunday, they also blamed ‘oppressive police surveillance’ for the fact that the sisters and their nine children aged three to 15, had left the UK.

    So the reason the police couldn’t prevent them from leaving was that the police was placing them under “oppressive surveillance”?

    Good grief!

    The astonishing allegation, through the men’s lawyers, came only a day after David Cameron bluntly told British Muslims that some in their community ‘quietly condone’ extremism by failing to speak out against the ‘poisonous ideology’ of Islamic State

    Yes, quite the extraordinary coincidence, isn’t it?

  5. Neil Jennison says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    Nothing is EVER a Muslim’s fault….everything is always somebody else’s fault..

    Come to think of it, does that mean my wife is a closet Muslim? Nothing is ever her fault either!

    • Westman says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 3:20 pm

      LOL!

      • Annak says

        Jun 21, 2015 at 10:11 pm

        or the other way round ?

  6. IQ al Rassooli says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    NEVER in the history of Islam and Muslims did they ever admit GUILT of any kind

    All the Slaughter, Occupation, Enslavement, Plunder and Destruction that they visited upon Hundreds of Millions of innocent non Muslims in the last 1400 years are not only NEVER addressed but on the contrary Muslims GLOAT about their unending IMPERIALISM!

    Muslims are the masters of DECEPTION that their Beneath Contempt mentor Muhammad bin Abd Allah perfected in 23 years of his aggression against all those who REFUSED to accept his claim that he was ‘Rassool Allah’ / Messenger of Allah

    Anyone reading his Quran will find hundreds of verses where in Muhammad defends himself against their TRUTHFUL accusations

    I shall repeat the following as many times as necessary to (hopefully) open the minds of readers who are NOT sure of the facts~

    Al Mai’da 5: 51 “O ye who believe (Muslims)! take not the Jews [Yahood] and the Christians [Nasara] for your friends and protectors: they are but friends and protectors to each other.
    And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them…”

    *** The inherent implications of the last sentence are of immense importance “And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them…” meaning that any followers of Muhammad who befriend or under the rule of Christians or Jews (or any none Muslim group) would be considered Apostates to Islam, outsiders to Islam, enemies of Islam who must be slaughtered.

    In a nutshell, no Muslim in Europe, the USA (or any other non Muslim state) can ever be loyal to the European & American Constitutions because they are Man Made NOT from Allah’s Sharia nor can any Muslim in Europe or the USA be a loyal citizen because none Muslim Europeans & Americans are Infidels/ Kuffar/ Unbelievers/ Kafiroon to be Converted, Subjugated or exterminated***

    Just like their mentor Muhammad 1400 years ago who ALSO claimed to be the VICTIM of Pagan Arabs, Christian Arabs and Judaized Arabs so that in his perverted mind had a reason to EXTERMINATE them, which he DID!

    These spineless, gutless ‘husbands’ are shedding the perfect ‘crocodile tears’ of TAQIYAH!

    I wish that some brave Muslim would attempt to prove me WRONG!

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

  7. Isabella says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:35 pm

    War is deceit and these two jerks are well aware of it.

    • cranky.white.woman says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 8:54 pm

      It has crossed my mind that perhaps these men and their wives are just looking to make some money. The wives and kids run off to Syria, the men blame the authorities, lawyer up, see what sort of settlement they can get. Once they’re paid off, they head off to Syria as well.

  8. gravenimage says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:47 pm

    UK: Husbands of Muslimas who fled to ISIS say UK police “radicalized” their wives

    “They also blamed ‘oppressive police surveillance’ for the fact that the sisters and their nine children aged three to 15, had left the UK.”
    …………………………

    This is the usual—that the supposed cause of Jihad is any attempt at defending against Jihad—that, and the idea that everything is the fault of the “filthy Infidel”.

  9. Anglosaxon says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Lest we forget. Muslims can do no wrong and if they do its the fault of everyone else. The Police’s Chief Mullana went to their house everyday imploring them to go to Syria and convincing them of the Glories of Islam

  10. somehistory says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 4:32 pm

    There are two rules in customer service:
    1. The customer is always right.
    2. If the customer is wrong, refer to rule number 1.

    For muslims, there is one rule: the muslim is always right, even when the muslim is wrong, and did wrong, and caused wrong, and lied about doing wrong, and blamed the wrong on anyone and everyone else in order to continue to do wrong.

    • TediNeo98 says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 5:28 am

      ☺ – very good…

  11. Know Thy Enemy says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 4:40 pm

    This article simply shows that humans have no value to Muslims, only Islam has value! If something bad happens to a Muslim’s relatives, they consider it more important to use the relatives’ suffering as an excuse to weaken the kuffar and/or strengthen Islam.

    Only the devil’s religion would appropriate such worthlessness to humans. Islam is truly demonic!

  12. Arthur says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 5:07 pm

    I think the husbands have been got to by troublemakers. Their lawyer seems to have a specialisation in ‘Terrorism and Human Rights’ and a record of defending terror suspects and those seeking to get to Syria.

  13. Steaming Pile says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 5:28 pm

    So THAT’S how they became Radicalized! SHAME on anti-terror police, making grown men cry!

    • particolor says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 7:58 am

      I’ve sent them another bag of Onions to keep up the Deluge !

  14. Mahendra Singh says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 6:43 pm

    Why are these bums crying and blaming the police? Koran clearly allows 3 more
    replacements, per person and innumerable concubines. Bless Muhammad for
    including these emergency provisions in Koran.

    • Westman says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 7:00 pm

      Exactly. If they get busy they can soon have wife replacements from the refugees streaming into Europe; probably with some resettlement benefits. The “security blanket” children can be replaced at a rate of one every 2 years. Maybe that’s a little too cynical….

  15. Peggy says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    So they went to Syria just to spite the police. How original.
    I hope that they lose big time and they have to cover the cost of their lawyers and all other costs incurred by police.
    So the police had more influence on them than their husbands and their responsibility for their family. Is anyone actually going to buy this?
    These vile creatures know all this. They are just so evil that truth and decency has no place in their lives.

    • Anglosaxon says

      Jun 23, 2015 at 4:51 pm

      Dont forget Taqiyya. You have to lie to the infidels if you have to, to protect the reputation of the glorious religion

  16. Mirren10 says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    ”UK: Husbands of Muslimas who fled to ISIS say UK police “radicalized” their wives

    They also blamed ‘oppressive police surveillance’ for the fact that the sisters and their nine children aged three to 15, had left the UK.”

    I’ve been expecting something like this. The next thing will be a claim for compo against the government. What’s the betting they’ll succeed ?

    ”UK police “radicalized” their wives.”

    Makes a change from the Internet.

  17. Cartimandua says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 10:27 pm

    No shame here, eh? 2 husbands, 3 wives, 9 children off to jihad, women still collecting UK benefits, getting ISIS to go to bank machines in Turkey. Nice! I am more upset by the British constable who took off his bracelet, allowed by the government when he was harassed, harangued and bullied by that disgusting Choudary. I think any cop worth his salt would have arrested that piece of dung and paid the price.

  18. Jack Holan says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 11:21 pm

    After listening to these pieces of the propaganda mosaic in England and the US just strongly encourage them to leave too.

  19. epistemology says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 4:42 am

    It’s the same old story. Muzzies never get anything tangible done, but they’re champions in playing the blame game. Right they’re blaming the UK police for radicalising their wives. It’s really preposterous. The police put them under ‘oppressive police surveillance’ with a good reason, as we can see. Terrorists have to feel that they’re not welcome in countries. The real victims are the British people. But try and explain that to a muzzie.

  20. bewick says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 6:59 am

    The lawyer is called Khan. Although wearing a suit, rather than the pyjamas. he sports the full beard without mustache and wears a black kufi. I believe that appearance is indicative of fundamentalist views and demeanour if previous reading is a guide.

  21. chanah says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 7:16 am

    islam in a nutshell blame everybody but their own shitty islam and their profit

  22. Draki says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 8:02 am

    This is an interesting story. It’s pretty odd that the wives and children would flee their fathers for Syria. I don’t know if we should necessarily disregard what the husbands are saying. I think more investigation needs to be done. It’s weird.

  23. bob kelly says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 9:12 am

    I knew this was coming , I said so a couple of days ago, they will sue the government using legal aid $ . This is hard to believe that the UK government would allow this kind of actions and accusation from new immigrants, that don t give a dame about human rights.

  24. Sam says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    You see they are all fleeing UK for terrible treatment they get there to be treated like REAL WOMEN in Syria. Who says ISIS treats women and children badly. Islam is a religion of peace.

    You can not even make this up. However, in Islam, the religion of peace anything is possible. Shame on all who tolerate this CULT for centuries.

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