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UK: Imam accused of recruiting for jihad group doesn’t have to wear electronic tag — it breaches his human rights

Jun 21, 2015 4:11 am By Robert Spencer

electronic tagWhat about the human rights of his intended victims? They don’t count, of course. This imam has obviously hoodwinked the easily-hoodwinked British authorities into thinking he is mentally ill and thinks the electronic tag is a bomb, such that they are removing the exact restrictions that were designed to prevent him from doing what he is accused of doing. Mentally ill? Yes, mentally ill like a fox. He is mentally ill? I hope they’re not letting him drive.

Absurd Britannia Update: “The terror suspect who doesn’t have to wear electronic tag because he thinks it’s a bomb: Tracker ‘breaches imam’s human rights,'” by James Slack, Daily Mail, June 19, 2015:

A terror suspect last night won a human rights case to have his tag removed – because he thinks MI5 has put a bomb inside it.

A judge said the dangerous preacher of hate has mental health problems, and wearing the electronic monitoring device was making him ‘delusional’.

He ruled this amounted to a breach of Article 3 of the Human Rights Act, which is meant to prohibit torture.

As a result, the Somalian-born fanatic will be free to walk the streets untagged despite still being rated a grave threat to the public.

The judge also lifted a ban on the imam’s children having an iPad or laptop – intended to stop him poisoning minds on the internet – because it was stopping them from making friends as well as affecting their education.

The ‘absurd’ case sparked fury at Westminster, with Tories saying it showed why the Human Rights Act must be scrapped.

The man, a supporter of the Al Qaeda-linked al Shabaab terror group who is known only as DD, was placed under a T-Pim terrorism prevention order almost two years ago. DD is one of only two terror suspects under a T-Pim.

The refugee is suspected of radicalising and recruiting vulnerable young people from Europe and making a powerful contribution to propaganda campaigns for al Shabaab which is engaged in a jihadist mission in Somalia and around east Africa.

The purpose of the tag was to allow the police and security services to monitor his movements and enforce restrictions on where he can go. He is considered such a threat he is banned from “parts of Birmingham and Leicester.

But Mr Justice Collins ruled that requiring the 39-year-old to continue wearing the ankle tag now breached his human rights because of a worsening mental illness and delusional thoughts.

The judge said there was medical evidence that DD had psychotic and unusual beliefs that the tag was there to punish him. In particular, he believed it contained a camera and a bomb, and voices and noises emanated from it.

Two doctors accepted that DD was not exaggerating his symptoms. There was no doubt that the tag might produce a further deterioration and result in serious self-harm, Mr Justice Collins ruled.

But he refused to lift the T-Pim itself. Jonathan Hall QC, representing the Home Secretary, said the advice from MI5 was that the T-Pim had ‘significantly reduced DD’s ability to spread propaganda, radicalise, recruit and fundraise’.

Conservative MP Peter Bone said the case showed why the Tories need to get on with scrapping the Human Rights Act and replacing it with a British Bill of Rights.

He told the Mail: ‘It just beggars belief. This man is so dangerous we have to monitor him – but we cannot monitor him with a tag which is regularly fitted on minor criminals?

‘The idea this is something that amounts to torture is completely absurd.’…

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  1. Cecilia Ellis says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 4:41 am

    “A judge said the dangerous preacher of hate has mental health problems . . . delusional.”

    Sounds like Muhammad.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 12:28 pm

      A judge said the dangerous preacher of hate has mental health problems . . . delusional.

      This is like what’s going on in American politics as the RINOs set themselves up to repeat as a fake opposition party in the 2016 election. They repeatedly accuse the globo-socialist party (aka the Democratic Party) of incompetence. That diverts attention from the real problem, that the Democrats are doing exactly what they intend, and well.

      Playing the displacement game with Moslems is every bit as destructive, and even more dangerous. Coming from a judicial bench gives it the force of law, which Chairman Mao noted ultimately comes from the business end of a gun barrel.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 12:37 pm

      The judge has a duty to place a DANGEROUS LUNATIC in a psychiatric prison.

    • Peggy says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      If he has mental issues why is he out? Why isn’t he locked in some psychiatric facility for everyone’s protection?
      If he happens to murder some “filthy nonbeliever” his mental health will be used not to jail him. As far as I am concerned this judge shoudl go to jail in case this evil creature kills someone because clearly he hasn’tr done his job.
      If we are to accept mental illness as a defence then we have to put these people in a facility for criminaly insane. How can they let a ticking timebomb out to live among us?
      If this creature does anything to hurt anyone this judge will have to answer for it but he won’t. He is protected.

    • Betty says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 5:58 pm

      it is the judge with mental issues. ask ant doctor. that values it life and see what he says.

  2. Shri says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 4:42 am

    I think this judge needs an e-tag!

    • Betty says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      e-tag? how about a dog tag? the ones used on the 4 legged kind.

  3. Mark says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 4:45 am

    “The judge said there was medical evidence that DD had psychotic and unusual beliefs”

    … Well he was a Muslim. Won’t be long before this is a”usual “belief in the UK though”.

  4. james hazan says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 5:06 am

    I think you got it wrong. Mentally ill refers to the judge,not the Somali.

  5. Georg says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 5:15 am

    Rights of the victims? The kuffar? That’s a good one. Besides, if you don’t think about it, he is the victim! Have we no compassion?

  6. No Fear says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 5:30 am

    It is against my human rights to read in the Quran how I am going to be roasted in a fire prepared by the violent leader of the muslims. That book is filth and offensive to me and my family.

    • Betty says

      Jun 22, 2015 at 6:04 pm

      send me hiS mailing address and I will send him a qur’an for CHRISTMAS.

  7. Angemon says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 6:14 am

    the Somalian-born fanatic

    Send him back to his birthplace.

  8. Charli Main says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 6:19 am

    Of course he is mentally ill——he is a Muslim imam. Insanity is an integral part of Islam.

  9. ECAW says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 6:25 am

    “As a result, the Somalian-born fanatic will be free to walk the streets untagged”

    This was the bit that surprised me (but I suppose it shouldn’t). I was under the impression that tagging of normal criminals was an alternative to prison not to complete release.

    Don’t know about you but I’m getting a bit exasperated at this increasing lunacy by our rulers. The sooner jihad comes to them and our deluded media and academics and churchmen rather than grannies in Edmonton or soldiers in Woolwich or crowds in Graz or cartoonists in Paris or…etc etc etc, the sooner it will dawn on them that this is for real.

    The “Oh shit!” moment – how far off can it be?

    • Mirren10 says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 8:09 pm

      ”The “Oh shit!” moment – how far off can it be?”

      **Very** far, I should think, ECAW.

      Our rulers are surrounded by highly expensive security details everywhere they go, including where they live, and where they ‘work’. The likelihood of them getting *their* miserable hides singed is slim to none.

  10. pongidae rex says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 8:16 am

    Human rights treaties of an earlier era are leading Europe into chaos just as the mutual defense treaties of an earlier era led Europe into WWI in August 1914.

  11. duh_swami says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 8:26 am

    How to fix the problem of faking mental illness…Bring back ECT…’Electro convulsive therapy’, more popularly known as ‘shock treatments’. These used to be standard treatment in mental hospitals in California but have been banned in state hospitals for years, but are still done in a few places. One shock treatment has cured many fakers. Sometimes just watching someone else getting ‘shocked’ can bring on a sudden cure.

  12. Don McKellar says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 8:38 am

    Yes, but the big question is: WHO STOLE HIS SHOE?

  13. TheBuffster says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 10:11 am

    So they remove the tag but don’t put him in prison? Or at least a mental ward for the criminally insane?

    I really have trouble getting my mind around this kind of stupidity. It’s completely counter to reason. It’s a through-the-looking-glass kind of thinking. I just… I can’t…

    I actually feel faint.

  14. gerard says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 11:38 am

    1. He hears voices from the tag and 2. he campaigns for Al Kebab. Beg pardon: Al Shebab. (Gotta find some humour in this sorry tale or go nuts!) Anyway there’s 2 good reasons for locking him up.
    Also he’s a refugee…from what? From Al Kebab (Shebab without the mustard). Then he campaigns for ..you got Al Shitbab!!! Makes sense yes/no? Just another reminder that Islam is the creed of the insane. After having escaped the asylum they do their best to turn their host country into a replica of the country they fled.
    Seriously, a condition for acceptance as a refugee should be the renunciation of the ideology of the country you are running from. You can come but you must leave your plague behind. It is the grave fault of our authorities that such plague/islam carriers are allowed into our countries without any kind of screening or quarantine. Is there no end to this insanity??

    • gerard says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 11:45 am

      He’s a refugee from an Islamic country.

    • gerard says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 12:24 pm

      The icing on the cake (fruit cake?) is that if you complain about this muslim walking free, you’ll be the one that gets locked up!!

  15. Alissa says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 11:44 am

    Muslims hold positions on ALL Human Rights Commissions Boards. They are highly over represented. There’s a reason for that. Its all a part of stealth jihad. Check out your local commission. I guarantee you will find muslims holding key positions.

  16. ManchesterLad says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    I thought nothing could surprise me anymore about the crass stupidity of the British system – but this case has proved me wrong.

    It is simply insane and I cannot see how anyone would argue it was a sensible outcome.

    I wonder if the judge mentioned in his summing up that his gavel had just told him this was the correct outcome – and who, after all, can argue with a gavel?

    • Alissa says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 12:43 pm

      It’s the same throughout Europe and these insane decisions are based on fear. Why else would the police turn a blind eye. It’s all due to fear and that’s what we have to deal with. The muslim brotherhood, in it’s many forms, threatens retributions against those decision makers and their families.

      We have to be open about that and do the right thing anyway.

      • gerard says

        Jun 21, 2015 at 4:20 pm

        Controlled by fear. Like with the Mafia

    • Paul says

      Jun 21, 2015 at 1:03 pm

      Our culture has been completely emasculated and people are
      scared stiff of doing or saying the wrong thing. That’s the result
      of fifty odd years of subversive left-wing nonsense being shoved
      down our throats, making us ashamed of who we are and
      discouraging us from standing for anything at all. Why anyone
      listens to any of these so-called “anti-fascist” bubbleheads is
      utterly beyond me. We need to comply with our natural instinct
      for common sense justice and, above all, survival. We can still
      get a grip and easily beat these throwbacks. The “progressive”
      lefties can just go back to hell.

      • Alissa says

        Jun 21, 2015 at 1:26 pm

        I agree completely. How do you suggest we turn the ship around. They are reproducing at a rate of a third world country.

        • Paul says

          Jun 21, 2015 at 1:53 pm

          Right now, possibly like you, I can only foresee an unprecedented
          bloodbath in the future. On the one hand, we have nationalist and
          patriotic groups that have arisen and their various splinter groups,
          who are not being listened to and whose leaders are have been
          harassed by the state. On the other hand, we have Muhammadan
          supremacists who are being emboldened all the time by disinterested
          politicians who’ve been completely bought off by the likes of the
          Saudis. The conclusion is going to be very messy indeed.

          To return to your original question, the solution would be to stifle and
          to choke the life out of the hatred that pours out of this ideology, those
          that preach it and the idiots that defends it.

          A patriotic and principled government would implement something
          similar to what Liberty GB proposes :
          http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/6609-zero-tolerance-liberty-gb-s-new-islam-manifesto

        • Paul says

          Jun 21, 2015 at 2:27 pm

          Having said all of that, there are a couple of factors that
          could come into play that many haven’t thought of.
          Could they work in our favour?
          Firstly, Islam has no real work ethic and the money that
          the ‘infidels’ are giving them in order to produce huge
          families in socialist Europe is going to run out. We’re
          spending money we don’t have.
          Secondly, there’s the not so small matter of the nuclear arms
          race in the Middle East between Iran and their hated enemies
          Saudi Arabia. This will not end well! We’re not dealing with
          rational people. If Saudi-Arabia is nuked, then all the money that
          pays for the ongoing Islamisation of the West is gone in a heartbeat.

        • Peggy says

          Jun 21, 2015 at 8:03 pm

          First thing, stop voting for Labor or Liberal. They are both dangerous and there are other parties in the UK which should get your votes.
          Last election has proved that UK is gone. Cameron willing so well just proved that not many people have learned anything and deserve the spineless Islamic government.
          What do you expect to change when the people of UK haven’t learned anything?

  17. Paul says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    Just leave him be and let him incite people into violent intolerance
    and to murder. He’s the victim in all of this and as a society it’s us
    that needs to do some very serious soul-searching and
    accommodate this poor man who we’ve obviously angered.
    Anyone who disagrees with this is racist against a belief system and
    is every bit as bad as Hitler.

  18. William Lucas Harvey Jr. says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 6:21 pm

    I agree – “What about the human rights of his intended victims? They don’t count, of course” – “The terror suspect who doesn’t have to wear electronic tag because he thinks it’s a bomb”.

    Typical Islam and Whiny, always Playing the “Victim Card”, Muslims.

    While Muslims have NO PROBLEMS THEMSELVES with Bombing, and Bloody Butchering, ALL in the name of Islam, and the HATE of their FALSE “Religion of Peace”, and in the name of Allah Islam’s God Of HATE, and in the name of Mohammed Islam’s Prophet of HATE, ALL CONDONED by the Qur’an Islam’s Holy Book of HATE.

  19. Michael Warden says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    I fully believe that he heard voices from the tag. After all, Mo the Paedo heard a voice from the leg of lamb he was eating telling him that it had been poisoned by the woman who cooked it ( he had previously killed her husband, uncle and most of her tribe. So when she offered to cook him a meal he naturally agreed !!! ). You will find that most judges, along with most politicians in Britain are in la la land. Any real justice would find the men in white coats hovering.

  20. Richie says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 7:39 pm

    Islam is apparently a protected class, and laws do not apply to Muslims

  21. Mirren10 says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    What needs to happen is for this disgraceful excuse for a ‘judge’ to be targeted by this piece of crap.

    I’d laugh my socks off.

  22. Annak says

    Jun 21, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    And they would do the same for i.e. an IRA terrorist wouldn’t they? Oh…..
    Off topic :
    During the time of IRA terrorism (which Muslims and leftist like to compare Islamic terrorism to, but is absurd as this really didn’t have much to do with the CORE of Christianity and really was sectarian and political and did not take place globally or in every Christian country) Irish people understood they were profiled as they also wanted to be safe from terrorists. They did not whine , complain or make demands. And all denounced all Irish terrorism , as “strangely ” most people back then did ?!

  23. Jack Holan says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 7:08 am

    If this terror suspect cannot be tagged in order to track his movements (usually a type of bail in lieu of being incarcerated where his every movement will be monitored) than why wasn’t he sent to be he held until trial. Now on the other hand the Judge made a determination based on two separate psychological evaluations that the man is not fit so this begs the question why he is not being court ordered to a close psychiatric ward? He is be treated differently than if he were another royal subject. The question is why. Maybe this should be investigated.

  24. Keith W. Jordan says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Since when do Imams believe in human rights???

  25. Linda Rivera says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    The Staunch Defender of Islam judge is fiercely protective of the Muslim terrorist, but NOT of his many potential hated infidel victims.

    It would be really nice if they had the terrorist move into the home of the judge and his family, without any bodyguards. The judge deems the savage to be harmless.

    ‘The judge said there was medical evidence that DD had psychotic and unusual beliefs.’ Almighty God would call that having a WICKED HEART. The filth wants innocents murdered.

    ‘Two doctors accepted that the tag might result in serious self-harm’

    Are they Muslim doctors? The Muslim savage wants to harm OTHERS, not himself.

    Join EDL street rallies. Join Liberty GB patriotic, anti-Islamisation party http://www.libertygb.org.uk/

    Join in the fight for freedom.

  26. Betty says

    Jun 22, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    this judge is the one that has the mental problems. he hasn’t learned any thing. how many more deaths and rape victims will it take before they wake up? he should be thrown off the bench. I thought I wasn’t very smart but this judge and many others have got me beat by a long shot.

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