As Britain dies as a free society, all its enlightened multiculturalists can congratulate themselves that they were never remotely “Islamophobic.”
“Safeguarding children from extremism is not Islamophobic,” says Sara Khan, but she is wrong. In reality, anyone and everyone who dares say or do anything effective against jihad terror is smeared with this label. The charge of “Islamophobia” is a tool that Islamic supremacists and Leftists use to intimidate people into thinking that opposing jihad terror is “bigotry.”
The full sentence from Sara Khan was, “Safeguarding children from extremism is not Islamophobic, but you’ve got to make sure the way you do it is appropriate.” The ugly little secret of this whole business is that as far as Islamic supremacists and Leftists are concerned, there is no “appropriate” way. Everyone crosses the line into “inappropriate” and “Islamophobic” — everyone, that is, who doesn’t turn a blind eye to the whole problem. In the U.S., Hamas-linked CAIR and other purveyors of the “Islamophobia” myth claim that while people like Pamela Geller and I (and a host of others, including essentially everyone who has ever said anything about these issues) are “Islamophobes,” there is, on the other hand, acceptable, non-“Islamophobic” criticism of jihad terror and even Islam itself. They provide no examples, however, because there are none: the claim that there are acceptable critics is just a smoke screen to cover the fact that they go after everyone who dares speak against jihad terror. And that’s why these UK teachers are terrified: they know what will happen if they take the slightest action to report jihad activity among their students. They will be reported, defamed, smeared, and probably fired as “racist” and “bigoted.”
And so the jihad advances, but hey, these teachers know Britain’s contemporary priorities. Resisting jihad terror is not among them. Avoiding the appearance of “racism” is.
“UK Teachers: We’re Scared to Tackle Extremism in Case We’re Called ‘Islamophobes,’” by Nick Hallett, Breitbart, June 9, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Teachers in Britain are scared of reporting suspected Islamist extremism among their students out of fear of being labelled ‘Islamophobic’, the head of an anti-radicalisation group has said.
From July this year, British teachers will have a legal requirement to report students they believe to be at risk of radicalisation. But Sara Khan of counter-extremist group Inspire told The Guardian that many teachers could be too scared to perform their new duty – a fact that the newspaper saved for paragraph 20 of its 26 paragraph report into the monitoring of students.
“Some teachers have told us ‘we’re scared of being accused of being Islamophobic’ … and when some Muslim and Islamist organisations are saying this is Islamophobia, or other teachers say this is spying on Muslim kids, you can see why some feel like that.
“Safeguarding children from extremism is not Islamophobic, but you’ve got to make sure the way you do it is appropriate. If people don’t understand the issue or don’t seek expert help, they will tend to make mistakes.”
Khan said that “lots and lots” of schools have told her about students attempting to join Islamic State, and that Inspire had been contacted by “hundreds” of teachers who don’t know how to deal with extremist views.
She also said that many schools were contacting the organisation because they fear a backlash from local communities and feel “unequipped” to deal with the issue….
Sara Khan said that many cannot grasp why intelligent students would be attracted to Islamism. “They don’t understand what it is that Isis are calling young people to. Many of them A-grade students,” she said.
Yes, it’s a total mystery why devout Muslims would be drawn to an entity that styles itself as the sole true embodiment of authentic Islam.
Angemon says
Remember the plotted jihadi attack against Fort Dix and how it was foiled?
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-05-09-fort-dix-clerk_n.htm
Can you imagine what would have happened if the clerk had been afraid of being called “islamophobe” and kept his mouth shut?
What are they going to do, report all poor students with bad grades and little or no friends?… sarc./ off
Yeah, they wouldn’t want to do anything “inappropriate” to the people clamoring for their death and subjugation. After all, it’s their neck on the line – literally.
And they’ll never understand as long as the official policy is that “the islamic state is a group of terrorists who hijacked the peaceful religion of islam because they’re poor, ignorant and disenfranchised due to climate change”.
TediNeo98 says
Teachers in the UK shouldn’t bother saying anything – the more muslims that go off to Syria the better. They can live out their hatred there as opposed to here. Just need to make absolutely sure that they NEVER come back.
Why do people really care – these kids are taught to hate non muslims from a very young age & they believe that all non muslims are going to burn in hell anyway – they want nothing more than to introduce sharia law in the UK.
I cannot adequately express just how much I hate islam and everything it stands for.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. Say nothing; BUT…*privately* make a list, very very carefully, and then, under the table, communicate it to Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”. Or to Paul Weston of Liberty Great Britain. So that the campaign to *demand* that all British-passport-holding muslims who have joined Islamic State (or any other jihad outfit anywhere) should be stripped of passports and of citizenship (or declared Exile and Outlaw).
dumbledoresarmy says
I didn’t finish that sentence.
The campaign – armed with the long, long list of known or suspected jihad recruits – to prevent the return of those who have gone a-jihad can come from groups with a bit of political savvy and lobbying experience rather than from isolated individuals.
Godless says
I think it was about 2 months ago there was an article on Jihad Watch about teachers in the U.K. not speaking up about students that they suspected were planning to flee from freedom to go join ISIS because they did not want their future Jihadist students to get into trouble. At least now we see that there is a desire amongst teachers to report it. Is this progress of a kind?
PRCS says
““They don’t understand what it is that Isis are calling young people to. Many of them A-grade students,” she said.”
The idea that nearly adult, A-grade Muslim students don’t know what “ISIS is calling them to’ is absurd.
this is more a reflection of how uniformed school administrators and teachers, along with the “journalists” and politicians who parrot that drivel are.
The gutless euphemisms “extremist/extremism” and “radicalized/radicalization” is kind of PC nonsense that THEY have concocted in order to avoid honest discussions about the problem.
Does anyone here really believe those students think they’re extremists or that they’ve been radicalized?
And if staff and teachers will be mandated next month to report “extremism” and “radicalization”, they should do so and carry a copy of that mandate in order to squelch the intimidation they claim to fear.
TheBuffster says
“Sara Khan said that many cannot grasp why intelligent students would be attracted to Islamism. ‘They don’t understand what it is that Isis are calling young people to. Many of them A-grade students,’ she said.”
PRCS, you understood that sentence differently from me. I don’t think she meant the students don’t understand what ISIS is calling them to, but rather that many people just don’t get what it is about ISIS that attracts these students.
What they don’t get is that ISIS is presenting Islam as it appears in the Koran and in the stories of Mohammad. What appeals to these young Muslims is the “idealistic” purity of following in Mohammad’s footsteps, of going all the way. To do anything less would be hypocritical.
I do understand why people would be incredulous at the fact that intelligent students, some of them A-students, would be so stupid as to fall for the anti-reason junk that’s in the Koran and the example of Mohammad’s life. That’s what’s baffling people. You have to cripple your thinker to really get into Islam enough to want to go martyr yourself. How can A-students do such a thing?
So what do these A-grade students have to do to get those grade? Is it all rote learning? Is it all PC indoctrination, where you just learn the propaganda and spew it back on papers and tests, with no requirement for rational thought? Is education in their schools no better than memorizing dogma, so that to get an “A” you only have to memorize and recite, the way many Muslims learn the Koran?
In other words, do these A-grade students really have to *think* in order to get those A’s?
And have they been taught any appreciation for the principles of liberty and other good things that non-Muslim societies have brought to the world, or have they been indoctrinated only with contempt for the West, for capitalism, for the USA and Britain?
A kid who takes an independent interest in reading widely on his own, giving little time to his schoolwork and so getting mediocre grades can wind up knowing more, thinking more clearly and rationally, and *deserving*, but not getting, a higher grade than the kids who submit to the mediocre or lousy requirements of their school.
PRCS says
Thanks for your response; sorry for the late reply.
Yep. Khan’s statement was a little ambiguous–to me–and I believe you are correct.
That makes it just as bad–even worse, perhaps–as its an admission that after all that has happened over the past two decades the “schools” (read adults) have not taken the time to research the issue.
The continues use of phrases like “Islamism” and “extremist views” make the adults’ failure to understand what those A-grade students know so well exemplifies the problem.
It amazes me that it apparently never occurs to those who use it that the word “extremist” would also apply to the Pope. (Not equating the two ideologies; merely noting that if the Pope is as unwaveringly true to the teachings of Catholicism as any mufti is to those of Islam, he would–by that thinking–be an extremist, too.)
TheBuffster says
Yes, PRCS, it seems like those in charge of schools and government haven’t been doing their homework. But why do homework when, if the PC message turns out to be at odds with the truth, you’ll either have to become a pariah by standing for the truth you’ve learned, or submit to the lies and live with a troubled conscience? It’s much easier to accept the given line without doing the independent, possibly dangerous research.
You said: “It amazes me that it apparently never occurs to those who use it that the word “extremist” would also apply to the Pope. (Not equating the two ideologies; merely noting that if the Pope is as unwaveringly true to the teachings of Catholicism as any mufti is to those of Islam, he would–by that thinking–be an extremist, too.)”
I agree. The term “extremist” is a pretty waffley term. Does it mean someone who is 100% consistent to his principles? In that case, anyone with integrity would be an “extremist”. Or does it mean someone who is willing to use violence to impose his political demands on others? Is someone an “extremist” who fights violently for liberty against tyrants who impose religion on their citizens and forbid freedom of expression and other inalienable rights?
The essence of what’s wrong with the jihadists isn’t that they’re “extreme”, it’s what they’re being extreme about. They’re taking the Koran and the example of Mohammad seriously. They’re taking Islam seriously. They’re going all the way with an ideology that says to believe without question that Allah is the one god and Mohammad is his prophet, that it’s the Muslims’ duty to fight in the cause of Allah to spread the rule of Islam over the entire world, and that if, when invited to Islam, people do not accept the invitation or, if Jews or Christians, they don’t accept subordination to the Muslims, then it’s WAR for them.
That’s what’s in the Koran and the Hadith and the biography of Mohammad. If the “extremists were being extreme about respecting the individual’s right to think and judge for him or herself and to be free from, say, the initiation of physical force and from fraud, there wouldn’t be any problem.
They’re jihadists. Uncompromising Muslims. Doctrinaire Muslims. Fundamentalists who obey the order to wage jihad and thus bring the rule of Shariah to all of humanity. Real Muslims.
True, we need to distinguish those Muslims from the Muslims who haven’t bothered to read their Korans and have been fed a diluted form of Islam by their authorities. But those diluted Muslims don’t even know their own religion, or don’t take the whole Koran and the words and deeds of Mohammad seriously. How Muslim is that? How religious is that? If they don’t believe the worst parts of Islam, it would make more sense to become a Christian and follow Jesus, who never waged a war and never killed or stoned or raped or enslaved anyone.
It’s not that the jihadists are “extremists”, it’s that the “moderates” aren’t accepting their full duties laid down for them by Allah and his prophet. They’re “hypocrites” according to Islam. They’re ignorant or reluctant or “Westernized” and corrupted.
PRCS says
Thanks, I’ve been visiting and posting here for almost 11 years.
If it’s not merely the pc fear that “journalists” politicians have of telling the truth about Islam, then it can only be their ignorance of the subject.
PC driven fear of telling the truth is one thing, but there’s just no excuse for them to not do their homework.
The PC aspect aside, many of them do seem to think that compliance with one’s religious beliefs to a greater degree than so called “moderate” adherents constitutes “extremism”.
Not sure precisely why they believe that, but it’s what rubs off on those average Americans who get their news from them.
Babs says
Good post, Buffster.
Given the stranglehold of Islam over the minds of most Muslims, I believe it is not useful to try to distinguish between “moderate” and “extremists” . It’s safer to be cautious and define “moderates” who live among Muslims and go to the mosque as those who are extremists in waiting. I simply do not trust them NOT to follow the herd if their imams tell them to do so.
Cursed as they are with an external locus of evaluation (which means that they have little sense of agency or will to act on their own behalf and care far too much about what others will think if they do) “moderates” who live among Muslims, who say the salat (which calls on their god to punish Christians and Jews and others who don’t submit to Islam), cannot be relied upon to swim against the tide of bloodletting from their extremist brothers and sisters.
It matters little, I believe, whether these people have read the koran or not. They can be worked on by their religious leaders and are wide open to that.
The only trustworthy ones, so far as I am concerned, are those who have left Islam and are prepared to denounce it in public.
mortimer says
If Sara Khan DOES NOT UNDERSTAND why intelligent students are attracted to ISIS…HOW THE HECK DOES SHE EXPECT TO DISSUADE THEM?
Sara Khan is useless as an advocate for ‘moderate’ Islam versus ‘extremism’. She has no idea of the RADICAL ISLAMIC CHIC prevalent among Muslim youth.
She’s ‘OUT-OF-IT’ and posing as an expert. She doesn’t know where to start, except perhaps to say…’Think of your future career, dears.’
They couldn’t care less about careers…they want to be a glorious part of history.
dumbledoresarmy says
The *really* smart kids who were unlucky enough to be born into Muslim families and raised in those families, but were also (from their POV) lucky enough to be born to Muslims who have immigrated into majority-Infidel countries, are the ones who are – like Bosch Fawstin did, and like Ayaan Hirsi Ali did, and like “Hannah Shah”, author of “The Imam’s Daughter” did – **APOSTASISING FROM ISLAM**.
*They’re* the ones that any Islamosavvy teacher who cares about human life should be keeping a quiet weather eye out for…because **as and when they apostasise, as and when they make their break they will need help**. The moment that their families and/ or others in the Mohammedan Mob discover that such kids are seriously harbouring the idea of becoming – or have already become – an atheist…or a Christian! ….they are in mortal danger. Boys *and* girls.
Every teacher in the Infidel world who has Muslim students needs to read Hannah Shah’s “The Imam’s Daughter” and Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s “Infidel”. They also need to read up on the case of Rifqa Bary.
Here’s a review of “The Imam’s Daughter”.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_display.cfm/blog_id/20010
Excerpt:
“When, at school, she had finally summoned the courage to tell a teacher that her father had been beating her (she couldn’t bring herself to reveal the sexual abuse), the social services sent out a social worker from her own community [that is: a MUSLIM ‘social worker – CM]. He chose not to believe Hannah and, in effect, shopped her to her father, who gave her the most brutal beating of her life.
“When she later confronted the social worker, he said: “It’s not right to betray your community.”
‘Hannah blames what is sometimes called political correctness for this debacle: “My teachers had thought they were doing the right thing, they thought it showed ‘cultural sensitivity’ by bringing in someone from my own community to ‘help’, but it was the worst thing they could have done to me. This happens a lot.
“When I’ve been working with girls who were trying to get out of an arranged marriage, or want to convert to Christianity, and they have contacted social services as they need to get out of their homes, the reaction has been ‘we’ll send someone from your community to talk to your parents’.
‘I know why they are doing this, they are trying to be understanding, but it’s the last thing that the authorities should do in such situations.” ”
Every infidel teacher who has Muslim kids in their classroom needs to know the story of Hannah Shah, and her warning: if you have had a Muslim kid come to you to seek help because they are being abused at home, especially if they are a girl fleeing sexual abuse or a forced marriage, and most especially if they state that they are afraid because they have left Islam – they don’t believe it any more – and they fear their family (or some other person/s in the Muslim ‘community’) is going to kill them because of that, and they are not safe in their home….**do not** involve any Muslim person in this case. That kid needs to be separated from the Muslim Mob as swiftly and effectively as possible.
Babs says
Good post dumbledore.
I believe that the greatest impediment to education of the wider population about the true intentions of Islam are the antics of our religious leaders of all denominations who engage in interfaith with these people, and the supine acceptance of the education and social services systems that nothing can be done about “cultural” aspects of Islam which amount to abuse.
Muslims deliberately use “interfaith” to lie through their collective teeth about Islam’s intentions.
This, for example, is what the British Islamist preacher Haitham Al-Haddad has said about Interfaith – that not only is the role of Interfaith a deception, it is a deception that is crucial:
“Of course, as Muslims, we believe that this co-existence cannot take place unless they are living under the umbrella of al-Islam … these visions and strategies are meant to be for a short run, means within fifty years, something like this.
“The far ultimate aim for Muslims is to have Islam governing the whole world, Islamisation of the whole globe. This is the ultimate aim of any Muslim and of all communities, Muslim communities.
“But we are not talking about that at the moment. We are talking about the immediate goals. So, in terms of immediate goals we need this peaceful co-existence, and they claim that they are promoting it and we need to take it from there.”
from http://standforpeace.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Interfaith-Industry.pdf (page 3)
Until I retired from my practice I was a psychotherapist among whose clientèle were Muslim women and children some of whom had suffered significant abuse. I am convinced that the key to the undermining of Islam is by educating women but I accept that this will be difficult work.
Charli Main says
“it’s a total mystery why devout Muslims would be drawn to an entity that styles itself as the sole true embodiment of authentic Islam”.
BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT ISIS IS. Read your Koran you ignorant Muslima waste of space.
I wonder just how much Government money is pouring into the pockets of the organisers of ” Inspire” ??????? I suspect Sara Khan is doing very nicely-thank you very much !!!!!!
Westman says
—-Sara Khan said that many cannot grasp why intelligent students would be attracted to Islamism. “They –don’t understand what it is that Isis are calling young people to. Many of them A-grade students,” she said.—
Why is it always assumed that these A-grade students have only recently been interested in Jihad? Perhaps that is completely backwards, i.e., many Muslim students are studying seriously to become more effective as the Jihadist they have been for years; influenced by relatives or Imams while very young.
mortimer says
Sara Khan is lying! She does understand what is attractive about ISIS…the strict enforcement of Sharia and the imposition of an Islamic global DICTATORSHIP…Allah’s perfect political system.
They want to be part of history!
Baucent says
Well, I hope Sara “understands the attraction of Islamic State”. If she doesn’t, her counter-extremist group will be largely ineffective.
It’s really quite simple. Reports have said that most of the IS fighters are teenagers, many of them foreigners. What attracts these young men is religious fanaticism mixed with a baser motivation, the prospect of wives and slave girls, and a cast iron “retirement package” of equal pleasure.
I suspect the average recruit is not difficult to “indoctrinate” at all. Like the average scam victim them want to believe.
mortimer says
A superb analysis! ‘Like the average scam victim, they want to believe.’
duh_swami says
There is no need to ‘cast fear into the hearts of people’ when the people are already fearful. They are the true ‘islamophobes’, practicing the Islamophobic doctrine of, ‘please don’t hurt me’…
All they need is regular maintenance to remind them who is in charge…
mortimer says
Robert Spencer sagaciously wrote: “The ugly little secret of this whole business is that as far as Islamic supremacists and Leftists are concerned, there is no “appropriate” way”…(to criticize jihad).
TOO TRUE! The jihadists will quickly shout ‘ISLAMOPHOBIA’ when anyone criticizes jihad.
The slur of Islamophobia is worthy of totalitarian propaganda, and it is deliberately unspecific about whether it refers to a religion, a belief system or its faithful adherents around the world. The term ‘Islamophobia’ is the propagandist’s dream come true, since it is very hard to counter, because most people (including Muslims) know little about Islam and its methods.
In response to the slur, we should concentrate on the words ‘supremacism, misogyny, religious fascism, theocratic fascism’…However, most people will not understand the chilling implications of those words. Bill Maher compared Islam to ‘The Mob’ but was misunderstood.
A short, pithy response to Islamophobia needs to be invented. Any ideas?
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
“Islamophobia”, is a “Made up” Term, Iranian fundamentalists invented the term “Islamophobia”, which is meant to silence ANY Criticisam of Islam.
http://www.investigativeproject.org/1232/islamophobias-false-comparison
http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2013/09/22/the-problematic-definition-of-islamophobia/
http://falseislam.org/
http://islamlies.com/
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
“Islamophobia”, is a “Made up” Term, Iranian fundamentalists invented the term “Islamophobia”, which is meant to silence ANY Criticisam of Islam.
mortimer says
According to Pascal Bruckner, the Iranian mullahs used the ‘Islamophobia’ slur to counter American Feminists.
The first assault on liberty from the Iranian mullahs was to announce the imposition of the veil. The following day, 60,000 Iranian women protested in the streets of Iran. It was the last protest of women against the mullahocracy.
Michael Warden says
“ Islamophobia is one of the most dishonestly abused words in our current lexicon. It is truly pathetic to respond to reasoned criticism by accusing your critics of a phobia. Even worse than the Islamists themselves are the misguided and illiberal “liberals” who pander to them because they are terrified of being thought “racist”. Needless to add, Islam is not a race “.
( Richard Dawkins )
Tequila Not Taqiyya says
Islamophobia-phobia
Scott says
The answer to Ms. Khan’s question is simple…..
Because Islam is a totalitarian ideology using the disguise of religion to get its way.
Pretty simple, why is she so confused?
ECAW says
“From July this year, British teachers will have a legal requirement to report students they believe to be at risk of radicalisation.”
This is excellent news (apart from being terrible news for those who don’t really approve of state officials being required to be informers as well). Up till now there’s been no incentive for teachers to stray from the right on groupthink currently holding sway in teachers’ common rooms up and down the land. Now they’re in danger whatever they do. If they rat on the little dears they may have to sit on their own at dinner time and risk grief from the parents and possibly worse from the moderate Muslim community. If they don’t they might lose their job and end up in the slammer.
What a dilemma for them, and one they richly deserve, having lied to their kids about Islam all this time. I look forward to seeing them squirm.
Cecilia Ellis says
“Inspire is a counter-extremism and human rights organisation which seeks to address inequalities facing British Muslim women. By empowering women, Inspire aims to create positive social change resulting in a more democratic, peaceful and fairer Britain.”
http://www.wewillinspire.com/
After reading the posted article, “UK teachers afraid of reporting on jihad activity for fear of “Islamophobia” charges,” my first thought was this: Why on earth would a counter-extremism and human rights organization name itself “Inspire,” the same name as the al-Qaeda online magazine for jihadists?
To answer that question, I went to the website for more information. (Website and mission statement are provided above.) Following a link provided for parents who feared that their children might seek to join ISIS over the Easter break, I found the following, absolutely absurd and perilous advice:
“•Don’t be afraid to talk to your children about ISIS. Ask open ended questions to gauge what their views are. Do not shy away from raising this issue; children will certainly have views as it is being reported on the news everyday.
•Understand the key arguments so you can recognise any extreme interpretations of Islam and counter them. ISIS use Qur’anic verses out of context to justify their brutal actions to try and appeal to youngsters, so educate your children about the Qur’an and what Islam ultimately stands for. We at Inspire believe families are the first line of defence against radicalisation and our website has many links that can help as well as a selection of key links below.
•Consider contacting a trusted Imam, family member, teacher, or friend you know your child trusts that would be willing and able to talk to them in more detail about any concerns or questions they may have.
•You may want to signpost your child to the recently published online magazine Haqiqah that goes into some of the key arguments against ISIS in more detail and is written by scholars and Imams from around the UK.
•If you have concerns that your child is seriously considering travelling to Syria or Iraq, we would recommend that you check your child’s passport is in your possession. We would also advise you to contact the police if you believe travel is imminent.”
If the above demonstrates effective counter-Islamic terrorism, which it does not, then UK need not bother. There is no attempt to identify the real culprit: authentic Islam. Instead, the usual PC mantra of “Islam is a peaceful religion” is inherent in Kahn’s guidance. Would that the parents would first educate themselves on the real Islam, which indeed is demonstrated by ISIS, and then educate their children accordingly.
The axiom of taking “Quranic verses out of context,” is the irrational sine qua non for the enduring myth that Islam is a religion of peace. It is the perpetual lie that keeps on giving . . . and as it does, lives of non-Muslims are taken. As it is impossible to take Quranic verses out of context when there is no context, those who fall prey to this deception do so at their own failure to educate themselves.
Sarcastic as it may sound, I would not interview the fox in the hen house to ascertain why the hens might be afraid. Remove the fox and be done with it; the fox is the “trusted imam.”
There is so much more I could say, but there are JW readers who can do so much better than I. In short, Sara Khan and her organization will remain ineffective and dangerous unless both tell the truth about Islam. I do not see that happening.
PRCS says
There’s more than one fox in the mix.
The “trusted imam”–as you note–and the family members.
The Alpha fox–the cleric–is almost guaranteed to cite Qur’an and Sunnah literally.
The children are also taught at home by more foxes–their parents and close family members.
What do dear old mom and dad tell little Ahmed when he asks about Qur’an 5:38 (amputation of thieves’ hands)? The more devout the parents, I imagine the closer to literalism their responses will be, and more vile will their descriptions of we “filthy kuffar” be.
The problem in the U.K.–as it is here–is that the average Joe isn’t able to present facts to so called “journalists” and our elected officials (politicians will respond to a letter, but the responses are typically uninformed “don’t offend the entire faith” nonsense).
Renting billboard space with messages like “There’s no such thing as “radical Islam”; “There’s no ‘lite’ version of the Qur’an”, “Every Muslim reads the same ‘version’ of the Qur’an–amputations and all”, and such might be one of the few options available to us.
gravenimage says
Very true. Sara Khan is as much or more about slyly whitewashing Islam as she is actually opposing Jihad groups like ISIS.
For instance, she claims Muslim women in Britain are engaged in a “Jihad against violence”.
Joseph says
@ gravenimage
A while back you posted about meeting someone at a certain location. I am not a genius, but I am pretty sure that I figured it out(I hope I’m wrong) For safety sake remember that there are a lot of church mice listening on the sermons here. PLEASE be safe in all things that you do, you are important to many people here and we care about you.
Babs says
Sara dare not do that unless she leaves Islam. She is phobically inducted into not betraying her Muslim brothers and sisters. Until then her psyche is bound by the sharia of sitr:
The word “Sitr” itself is related to the Arabic word for a curtain or a veil, and carries the meaning of drawing a blind over something that is not to be revealed.
The doctrine of Sitr is related to the concept of “Aurah” or “dis-honour / shame”.
In simple terms when a person does something “shameful” or “dishonourable” within the Muslim community, it should be hushed up and only repeated offenders should be brought to (Islamic) justice.
This is justified on the grounds that in the Hadith a duty is laid on Muslims to protect each other and each other’s honour.
Thus, according to Yusuf Qaradawi, if someone assaulted another in a rage, got drunk, visited a prostitute, etc. then if he were exposed, he would be shamed. Under the doctrine of Sitr, in order to preserve the person’s “honour”, the offence should be covered up.
Note here that this “cover-up” applies to both criminal and immoral behaviour. This should not surprise us, since Islam rarely distinguishes the two, treating both types of reprehensible behaviour as crimes under Sharia Law. (I believe that the concept of sitr has resulted in the Muslims communities from which the widespread child abuse and grooming in the UK either being oblivious to what was going on or deliberately refusing to report those responsible. Everyone knows the others’ business in every Muslim community. I cannot believe that Muslims in Bradford and Rochdale and elsewhere in the UK had no idea what was going on, or did not profit financially from the pimping and trafficking of children).
And it starts young. Muslim children, teaches Qaradawi, should be taught from an early age to adopt the practice of Sitr if doing so will preserve the “honour” of fellow Muslims.
At first sight this is a doctrine which has somewhat to recommend it. It is the opposite of the “kiss-and-tell” attitude prevalent in much of the West, which can be damaging to put it mildly.
However, I suggest that it has a darker side. Recall that one example of something to be covered-up under the was a criminal act – that of assault (or widespread abuse of underage kufr children). How widely does this doctrine reach, to what level of criminality (and here in the West, particularly criminality against non-Muslims) should Sitr be applied?
Dr. Qaradawi has said: “The principle of Sitr requires that [all] such [shameful] behaviour, whether committed by you or someone else, remains forever hidden behind the veil [of Sitr].”
Does this mean that Muslims should not co-operate with Law enforcement agencies if a crime (which in these terms brings “shame”) has been committed by Muslims and perhaps especially so if the victims are non-Muslims (who are regarded as lesser mortals in Islam)? I believe that is certainly the case in the child grooming and abuse scandals in the UK.
Note also the key concept of “Honour” within this doctrine.Somewhat simplistically, the doctrine of Sitr is all about preserving the “honour” of Muslims individually and hence the Umma collectively. Muslims are to be seen as being the “best community
amongst mankind” (K3:110), no matter the truth of the matter. Given the centrality of “honour”, are we then surprised that people who so flout the demands of “honour” are likely to be killed so as to restore this “honour” to their family, or that Muslims are often less than fully cooperative in Police investigations into crimes committed by Muslims, or that the widespread presence of hate-preachers in Mosques is not reported?
Bridget Ames says
The true Islamophobics are those that continue to remain silent on such issues due to their great fear of Islamic retribution.
somehistory says
Thinking of education, did anyone see this: http://www.gopusa.com/news/2015/06/10/penn-school-district-holds-staff-inservice-with-local-mosque/?subscriber=1
Penn school district holds staff inservice with local mosque
By Lebanon Daily News (Lebanon, Pa.) June 10, 2015 12:25 pm
The muslim giving the lecture to the school district personnel, explaining his *culture/religion* tried very hard to make it sound like Christianity. And then, the muslims all prayed. Then one of them, thanked the teachers for going to his barracks…er…mosque.
gravenimage says
UK teachers afraid of reporting on jihad activity for fear of “Islamophobia” charges
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And grimly, their fears are probably quite rational, considering the insane climate in Britain right now…
“UK: Labour leader says his government will criminalize ‘Islamophobia’”
http://pamelageller.com/2015/04/uk-labour-leader-says-his-government-will-criminalize-islamophobia.html/
“We are going to make it an aggravated crime. We are going to make sure it is marked on people’s records with the police to make sure they root out Islamophobia as a hate crime.”
And moreover, he put the focus on the schools, meaning that teachers are particularly on the hot seat to prove that they are not “Islamophobic”:
“root of this problem lies in proper accountability in our schools.”
Even though Milibrand—thank goodness!—did not become the next Prime Minister, this madness permeates British society at this point.
Judi says
gravenimage – luckily Milliband did make that pledge. That ‘s what cost him the election!!
dumbledoresarmy says
I think the late Christopher Hitchens put it best and most succinctly.
Here’s Hitchens on “Islamophobia”.
“Islamophobia is a word created by fascists, and used by cowards to manipulate morons.”
If only *that* sentence could be put on little stickers or post-it notes or paper slips to be seeded absolutely everywhere. Not only in the UK but in many, many other countries.
Hav says
I think many British people in general know so little about what is happening in their country or community. Most of them are into peace and love, they are stubborn and refuse to understand about Islamists and how they can endanger values and lives. The real people who know things, who are alert are immigrants and illegal immigrants, many of this people know more then the locals and they are not frightened to say what they see on the other hand the natives are into political correctness, they don’t talk and when they do it is all about the weather.
dumbledoresarmy says
If you are such an immigrant, Islamoaware and alarmed about the Islamisation of the UK, your adopted country: please do not give up. Please keep on trying to warn and wake up the locals.
If you are a Christian, look up The Barnabas Fund and get involved with their “Operation Nehemiah” campaign. The British Pakistani Christian Association – look up their website – often hold protests and rallies; you can keep an eye out for such events, and go along, to visibly swell the numbers. Support Baroness Caroline Cox and Malcolm Lord Pearson, Earl of Rannoch, in the House of Lords; they are Islamosavvy. Whenever any British MP or Peer shows fight – whenever someone comes out and says NO to Muslims on any subject – you have to get behind that MP or Peer and PUSH. Encourage them. Let them know you approve.
No matter what non-Muslim background you are: join and support Paul Weston’s Liberty Great Britain, and Gavin Boby’s “Law and Freedom Foundation”. You can support them financially and in other ways as you feel able. Even a small donation once a month can keep them in there and fighting.
You can also join “The Royal Society of St George” (look them up; the Queen is their Patron) and try to build morale by learning about, teaching, and reaffirming all good aspects of English culture and history. If you live in England, you can contact the Society and find out how to obtain and display the traditional flag of England, the Cross of St George. Even if you’re a Sikh or a Hindu, consider flying that flag proudly outside your home or business premises…or even your temple or gurdwara! It is a fantastic way of saying to any Muslims who happen to pass by – “There are no Dhimmis here”. (If you’re in Scotland, get the Scottish flag with the St Andrew’s Cross, and fly that; if you’re in Wales, fly the Welsh flag with the Pendragon; both of these are just as offensive to mohammedans as the Cross of St George, and therefore just as suitable an act of defiance).
Besides Jihadwatch, do you know about a site called “New English Review”? They cover a lot of UK stories; two of their regular contributors, most notably the formidable “Esmerelda Weatherwax”, are UK-based. Pay them a visit. (Right now, today, they seem to be undergoing cyber attack and are offline, but they’re a good site).
sencit says
Hav, what a strange idea you have about British people! Many of them are well aware of what is transpiring in the country, but they are not going to broadcast their views in the street – especially not to strangers. You have no idea what is being said in their homes and among friends. The views I hear are far from complimentary. Many people are angry about what is happening here. I moved miles away from my home town when a new mosque arrived as I knew the Islamic mob would follow.
To say that we are unaware of what Islam is about is insulting. We know, but what can we do, apart from having a civil war, which may well happen.
These people are trouble, wherever they live!
Godless says
More British Muslims have run off to join ISIS than have volunteered to join Britain’s armed forces.
dumbledoresarmy says
And a jolly good thing it is that *few* Muslims have joined the British army.
The fewer Muslims there are in any Infidel nation’s army and police force – and in its intelligence agencies and private security companies – the better.
*None* would be best of all, from the point of view of national and homeland security.
Muslim enlistment in such bodies should be aggressively *prevented*.
Every Muslim in an infidel army, police force, intelligence agency, or private company providing security to public events, etc, is actually or potentially an enemy agent who may at some point run amok and Go Jihad upon those around them, whether their infidel colleagues or the general public; or who if they don’t do it themselves, may enable, assist or cover up for other Muslims Going Jihad.
It’s like hiring known Mafiosi as cops; it’s as if, during World War II, the USA had allowed members of the Naziphile German ‘Bund’ to enlist in the US army.
Huck Folder says
“It’s like hiring known Mafiosi as cops; it’s as if, during World War II, the USA had allowed members of the Naziphile German ‘Bund’ to enlist in the US army.”
There are over 2,000 card carrying jihadist wannabee members of the “I worship mo” fan club in the UK’s ‘National Association of Moslem Police’ (NAMP).
Peggy says
Sara Khan said that many cannot grasp why intelligent students would be attracted to Islamism. “They don’t understand what it is that Isis are calling young people to. Many of them A-grade students,” she said.
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That can’t possibly be true. We are being told that it’s the poor and uneducated who become extremists. Kids who don’t fit into our society and are loners do all that not bright and A-grade students.
Maybe what those teachers should do is seek help from their union. Get together and all start reporting. They can’t sack them all and if they try to then the union should fight for them. Telling the truth is not bigoted.
Matthieu Baudin says
Whole institutions have become captives of new left ideology and its distorted obsession with racial prejudice; a process that has proceeded, largely unchecked, since the late 1960’s. Claiming a monopoly on moral judgement, these bodies see their job as being to ‘manage the herd’ and keep the general population in line. Appalling as it is, people have become accustomed to this treatment. What’s required is a return to the recognition of individual responsibility, over and above cultural mores, if we are to break out of this condescending charade.
Felix Quigley says
Robert sums up at the end of his piece “Yes, it’s a total mystery why devout Muslims would be drawn to an entity that styles itself as the sole true embodiment of authentic Islam.” and he is of course being ironic.
He is right there is no mystery. But to see this fully it is necessary to cut through the kind of cover-ups for Islam that have been made by very active apologists like Karen Armstrong. These have got quite a hold. her ideologogical take is also the ideological take of huge organizations like the BBC.
Where Robert is totally wrong is in his and others like Breitbart in labellingthis as being “Leftist” in the sense that this term is nearly meaningless
I wrote on Trotsky.us and am totally opposed to Islam and I am a big defender of Israel etc.
How does that come about?
The answer I think is that there is a disconnect from the classic socialism and todas “socialists” and it is this disconnect that is so important.
Babs says
Robert, I respect and value your work. It is vital in these troubled times.
I was deeply sorry when Theresa May banned you and Pamela Geller from the UK and lost no time in writing to her and my MP to express my disgust in no uncertain terms.
I realise that this banning must have made you angry but please, please, PLEASE don’t continue to insult the UK and to blame all its citizens for May’s stupidity and spinelessness!
More of us than you can possibly realise are active against the influence of Islam here. We don’t make a huge fuss about what we do, but nevertheless we are making an impact. It’s amazing how the threat of losing votes causes MPs and councillors to rethink their stance!
The UK is not dying as a free society. There is evidence that it is not, if you care to look for it.
Were I you, I’d worry far more about Obama’s two-facedness.
Marty says
News just in that a teacher has been seriously injured and hospitalised.
He was stabbed by a 14 year old “asian” boy.
This sort of crime committed by Third World immigrants and their progeny is becoming common.
The town where the stabbing occurred is about 50% muslim, so asian is a euphemism.
Graham says
The UK also seems to have badly trained and educated judges: Asians are to be allowed to beat their chidren because to stop them and prosecute would be offending their cultural sensitivities.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/judge-says-cultural-context-should-be-considered-when-investigating-allegations-of-parental-child-abuse-10308692.html
What happened to equality before the law?
Babuba says
Yes they can be cold, many educated British are this way. Is it the education or something, Oxbridge? they are in their own bubble. They don’t send their kids to state schools so they don’t understand the disadvantage community.
Babs says
How “many” do you know? And what is this silliness – “something Oxbridge?”
UK politicians are indeed in their own bubble, but more and more ordinary Brits are snapping to.
“They don’t understand the disadvantage (sic) community?”
Again, who is this “they”? What an absurd generalisation!