As if the BBC were telling anything remotely close to the truth in its reporting about the jihad threat. Like the rest of the mainstream media, it retails politically correct fictions that prevent us from understanding what the jihadis themselves tell us about who they are, what they intend to do, and why they are doing what they’re doing.
Why did the Islamic State jihadis behead Herve Cornara at the Air Products factory in Grenoble? It may have something to do with the fact that the Qur’an says, “When you meet the unbelievers, strike the necks” (47:4).
Why did the Islamic State jihadis strike a Shi’ite mosque in Kuwait? It may have something to do with the fact that the Islamic State is a Sunni entity, and regards Shi’ites as heretical. The Islamic State recently called on Muslims everywhere to make this Ramadan “calamity for the infidels … Shi’ites and apostate Muslims. Muslims everywhere, we congratulate you over the arrival of the holy month. Be keen to conquer in this holy month and to become exposed to martyrdom.” This has nothing to do with Islam?
The Islamic State said that its mass murder at the resort hotel in Tunisia was an “attack upon the nests of fornication, vice and disbelief in God.” This has nothing to do with Islam?
David Cameron continues to counsel willful ignorance and a refusal to understand the stated motives and goals of those who have vowed to destroy us. He is, of course, just following the established line. London Mayor Boris Johnson just said the same thing, and virtually every other Western leader has said it as well. Obama, Tony Abbott, Manuel Valls, Angela Merkel, all of them know that all this Islamic jihad carried out in the name of Islam and in explicit accord with the Qur’an and Muhammad’s example has nothing whatsoever to do with Islam. No one has broken ranks or declared that they’re going to be realistic and call the jihadis what they call themselves, and endeavor to understand them on their own terms so that they can fight against them more effectively. And so the West’s response to the jihad threat remains blind, uninformed, and based on falsehood.
“‘I wish the BBC would stop calling it Islamic State’ – David Cameron unleashes frustration at broadcaster,” by Matt Dathan, Independent, June 29, 2015:
David Cameron has expressed frustration at the BBC over its use of the term Islamic State, saying it gives undue credibility to the “poisonous death cult” that is “seducing” young Britons to go and fight for the terrorist organisation in Syria and Iraq.
He urged the broadcaster to refer to the terrorist group as “Isil” – the abbreviation of the self-proclaimed Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
The Prime Minister was speaking after the number of Britons feared dead from the murderous attack by an Islamist gunman on a beach resort in Tunisia on Friday reached 30.
“I wish the BBC would stop calling it ‘Islamic State’ because it is not an Islamic state,” he told the Today programme.
“What it is is an appalling barbarous regime that is a perversion of the religion of Islam and many Muslims listening to this programme will recoil every time they hear the words.
“‘So-called’ or Isil is better,” he added.
He warned that the fight against the barbaric terrorist organisation was “the struggle of our generation,” adding: “We have to fight it with everything we can”.
Except the truth, apparently.
atef says
but it is Islamic in a specific way…
Brian says
Cameron has never read the Koran or Hadiths and his Islamic advisors are of course using taqyyia to make him think Islam is a nice cuddly religion, not a murderous fascist ideology that it really is.
RAM says
This makes a kind of sense if “Islam Classic” itself is not a religion, but rather a political movement like communism or Nazism..
voegelinian says
It’s both.
Jaladhi says
Doesn’t Cameron know that Islam is the “poisonous death cult” that he complains about Islamic State!! What part of Islamic State he doesn’t understand? I will say slowly – Islam is in Islam-ic State – capisce, you moron!!
Renee says
Then Cameron knows what a true islamic state should be like. Let him spell out what a true islamic state then is in his opinion and let us decide if we like it any better than what we see now!
truth be told says
Maybe they’re Baptists.
Carlos Danger says
Waaahhhhhh. the Caliphate has: 1.) a ruler, the Caliph, 2.) Land that it controls including major urban populations. 3.) An army that has defeated the Caliph’s enemies in the field, seized treasure, slaves, and territory, and that has stood toe to toe with every conventional force sent against it to date. Only the Kurds backed by American air power have proved somewhat effective against it, and the jury is still out on that. 4.)coined it’s own money 5.) extended its influence beyond its territorial borders.
Pretending it is not a nation is nonsense. the Caliph wields more power than his enemies in Baghdad and
Damascus who are little more than the mayors of the cities in which they reside – puppets propped up by Iranian puppet masters.
Michael Copeland says
Cameron is not fit for purpose.
Tequila Not Taqiyya says
It’s like Cameron wants to stick his head in the sand and fantasize that the Muslims he is dealing with domestically and the Islamic State are of different religions and have different “holy” books. It is all the same………………ISLAM. Wake-up dummy!
Angemon says
Al-Baghdadi has a PhD in islamic studies and he says they’re islamic. What are your qualifications, Mr. Cameron?
Myxlplik says
They play word games, because they know the reality of the demographic threat Europe, and other Western nations face. As time passes Westerners are putting the pieces together, and it’s becoming more and more difficult to disassociate these actions of Muslims from the religious inspirations of Islam, and ultimately our ideas around “Multicultualism”.
At this point the only thing supporting this notion that our civilization will coexist peacefully with sizeable populations of Muslims within its borders, are these flimsy word games.
Pretty lame really.
Yann says
Let’s call it “You-Know-What” or “It-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named”.
JK Rowling should be proud. She not only wrote the biggest best-seller from the last two decades. She made a perfect portrait of what UK politics would become.
dumbledoresarmy says
and all unknowingly she also gave us the perfect name for the Resistance, the movement to resist Islamisation, everywhere, a name that allows for membership of atheists, agnostics, Christians, Jews, Hindus, Sikhs, Buddhists, Taoists, confucians, zoroastrians.
“The Order of the Phoenix”.
Every Infidel anywhere who suddenly wakes up to the mortal danger represented by Islam and begins to educate themselves further and to attempt to educate and warn others and to try to find some way of defending their threatened society, has in that moment of awakening joined the Order of the Phoenix.
voegelinian says
Back in 2006, Baron Bodissey of the Gates of Vienna blog called attention to a then nascent group of Counter-Jihad idea-warriors, “The 910 Group”, and even designed a logo for them based on the phoenix symbolism
http://gatesofvienna.net/2006/10/synergy-and-synchronicity/
http://gatesofvienna.net/2006/10/synergy-and-synchronicity/
In the ensuing year or two, I noted that this 910 group had some quite good analysts. Unfortunately, I haven’t seen hide nor feather of them in several years now. Their fortunes seem to have reversed the phoenix symbolism, or they speciated into another animal — ICLA (International Civil Liberties Alliance). On the Gates of Vienna home page, there still, to this day, is a phoenix icon advertising “The 910 Group” — which, when one clicks on it, takes one to the ICLA home page (where I could not find any mention of “910 Group”). The ICLA home page, however, only has articles no later than November of 2014. Also worrisome is their prominent feature of a statement by Turkish Muslim “moderate reformer” Rabia Kazan — “This is not my Allah”, clearly distinguishing between a good Allah/a good Muhammad/a good Islam — and the “extremist” “radical” “hijacking” of these. Is it too much to expect that in 2015 (or 2014), the Counter-Jihad would have jettisoned such politically correct multi-culturalist flotsam and jetsam from its platform?
dumbledoresarmy says
Yup.
Mohammed = You Know Who, or, He Who Must Not Be Named.
Islam = That Which Must Not Be Named.
Muslims = They Who Must Not Be Named.
Angemon says
Then it’s time they take a cold, hard look at their so-called “religion” and decide whether they want to be a part of it or not.
torino390 says
And this jerk is ‘running’ our country apparently. It’s almost embarrassing being British, it really is.
Godwin says
He has become the biggest idiot in the UK n he is World famous for his stupidity.
Most Islamic countries have never said ISIS is not Islamic.
Peggy says
And yet he won so well just recently.
Uk has a long way to go if it survives.
miriamrove says
The choice of drugs in Islamic world is hashish. Since there are so many muslims in your country, it is obvious that Cameron is smoking hashish too. M
Godwin says
His eyes n nose look OK but his mouth looks evil.
Westman says
It controls a geographic area
It has a military
It has public services
It has taxes
It has currency
It has oil and economc backing, without the IMF
It is more viable than Greece
It has a governing Theocracy system based on the Islamic Ideology of Sharia.
It is not recognized by the UN as a State because it has taken its land by force from States that were created by force and exercises the barbarity of early Fundamentalist Islam which is still valid in the Qur’an and Sunna.
OK let’s call it the Rogue Islamic State, the RIS. But let’s not stupidly claim it’s not based on Islamic Ideology that is open to inspection by anyone taking the time or think that the UK can dislodge it with a minimal effort. It will be around for a long time…
Joseph says
@ Westman OK let’s call it the Rogue Islamic State, the RIS.
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Here in the US we should just call it the Islamic Rogue State or IRS.
Both of them have a very heavy hand, both take what is not theirs, both strike fear into the hearts of many, but only one hasn’t reached the level of beheadings and other atrocities yet.
Concerned Citizen says
That was funny!! Good one!! IRS and ISIS are very similar indeed!
somehistory says
Perhaps he isn’t afraid that they’ll *recoil* every time they hear it, and learn what isis is doing, but is afraid that the muslims in U.K. who have not yet joined in rejoicing openly about what isis is doing will begin to rejoice openly ….and then decide to copy the actions right there at home. Perhaps he believes he can influence them not to take up the sword in greater numbers by saying it isn’t islam.
Jack Diamond says
It’s not an Islamic State. It only has instituted Sharia law to guide every behavior but it’s not an Islamic State. It imposes a jizya tax on Christians–or they are slaughtered–but it is not an Islamic State. No Islamic State would do such a thing. There is no surah 9:29. No Pact of Umar. The Caliph is not a PhD
in Islam (like Abdullah Azzam or the Blind Sheikh Rahman were also). The Islamic State has a Military Council and Shura Consulting Council, a Judicial Authority, an Intelligence division, Public Information and propaganda, even an Islamic education division. But it’s not a state.
But no, it’s not ISIL anymore. It seeks the globe. It’s maps show what is next, it would include Spain- Andalus and the Maghreb and the Gulf states and Central Asia to Pakistan, Iran, the Balkans, the defunct Ottoman empire… but perhaps the Prime Minister can explain in detail why the Islamic State is not a state and why it is a perversion of Islam–besides just saying it is a perversion of Islam as if that is proof enough. Don’t hold your breath. Saying something makes it so. Not saying it makes it go away.
Ed says
I wish Cameron would go meet the IS leaders in the Islamic State in Iraq or Syria in person, so they can explain (and perhaps demonstrate) to him why it is called IS.
jayell says
Looks like Dave is just playing the game of ‘Don’t Rock the Boat’ (aka ‘Appeasement’) just like we in the UK were doing in the mid-1930’s with Mr. Hitler. I’ve posted and interesting story about something that happened in 1936 in the UK that seems oddly relevant to all this. It’s in the next story (“London Mayor – Islamic State?….). Have a look.
zulu says
this is like saying we should not use the word NAZI, because the German abbreviation (NSDAP — The National Socialist German Workers’ Party), includes the word German!
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Breaking News! Newsflash!
Abu Bakr Al-Baghadi has announce that he has officially changed his name to Caliph Ibrahim. It is thought this was done to celebrate the first birthday of the New Caliphate. We will have dropped the “New” prefix by its ninth birthday. Ninth birthdays hold a special significance in Islam.
And why shouldn’t Caliph Ibrahim do this? He’s got a fair share of territory. He’s got big cash flow from the sale of Mosul oil piped through the lands of our NATO “ally” Turkey. He’s printing a currency. He’s got a government that delivers gubmint services, including even a judicial system. Most of all, he’s got a military, one that is so good foreigners are flocking in to join, making the foreign nationals joining the Nationalists look paltry in comparison.
All hail Caliph Ibrahim. Congratulations to the New Caliphate on its first birthday and all its successes during its first year. Everybody loves a winner, and these guys are that. Too bad they’re gonna have to go ahead an do a big mass murder job here in the States, but these guys go by the book, and that part is in the book.
underbed cat says
Hmmmm In U.K. the if “you see something, say something”, policy won’t work…because they can’t mention what they see, anything to do with devout you know what. Shhhhh.
This I know is not funny.
underbed cat says
Hmmmm In U.K. the if “you see something, say something”, policy won’t work…because they can’t mention what they see, anything to do with devout you know what. Shhhhh.
Silence.
This I know is not funny.
Michael Copeland says
Of course, David Cameron does not say Islam is at war with us.
But then, no-one believes what he says any more.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6716-we-are-at-war
underbed cat says
Will Isis march into Greece bearing a trillion to get the vote end a financial crisis, and add another member to the growing Caliphate….then maybe Cameron will understand he has to study this issue. and maybe name it. ..I actually don’t know how to solve this incredible problem of protecting Europe and pushing back on a stealth jihad but open honest discussion, backed up by compliance to not install sharia law is a good start. Just thinking.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
That would be a perfect marriage: lazy socialists wed to ambitious Moslem activists. Over 55% of the workers in Greece are bureaucrats, and much of the private sector there sells to the gubmint. So it would be great to give these lazy assed bureaucrats something purposeful to work on, a real project with real leadership going somewhere, not just hanging out between holidays and vacations. And real funding with all the Mosul oil revenues. Look at all the activity now during Ramadan, the holiest of Moslem holidays.
Plus, if Caliph Ibrahim were to take over the Athens government, he would not only save the bacon for all the Greek bureaucrats, he would chop nearly 800 miles of the flight time of an ICBM between his guys and EUrabia. There is great potential in that, and not just for mass murder. I’m thinking blackmail for a few billion dollars on the promise to not do the mass murder.
abad says
Speaking of the Shi’ites – any chance of Iran using their nukes against ISL? Anyone have any info on this?
clap says
ISL would probably have to attack Iran first. Then Iran would stomp the shit out of them. That would be one problem solved by another problem.
William says
Is the Islamic Republic of Iran Islamic?
Is the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan Islamic?
Is the Islamic Republic of Pakistan Islamic?
Is the Islamic State (ISIS) Islamic?
gerard says
Cameron: “a perversion of the religion of Islam”
How do you know this Cmaeron?
It amazes me how most of our “leaders” consider themselves experts on Islam without having done any research into the subject and without consulting anyone who might be critical of Islam. Their “go to” people are all Muslim apologists. They would consult Joseph Goebbels about the nature of Nazism and conclude that it is an ideology of peace.
gerard says
UK’s Cameron: “I wish the BBC would stop calling it ‘Islamic State’
How about we call it “Amish State”? All that beheading and burning people alive sounds pretty Amish to me!
Peggy says
What an evil stupid man this Cameron is. How can he say it’s not an Islamic state and ask BBC or anyone to stop calling it that when the very people who are part of it say it is and have named it that way?
It’s like telling Aussies to stop calling it Australia because he doesn’t want to accept it.
Instead of telling BBC to stop callint it that way I suggest he goes to Syria and tell them that himself. See what they have to say about that.
Wellington says
Cameron is even more ridiculous than the BBC. He’s actually to the left of the BBC on the matter and monstrosity which is Islam. Rather says it all.
Britain is in deep shit. America too. All the West. And this deep shit reality is brought to you courtesy of 1) Islam; and 2) dhimmi apologists for Islam. Oh yeah, the Age of Nonsense marches on.
Wellington says
I would add a third reason for the muck and mire the West is now in and it is this: the abandonment of Judeo-Christian ideals by the West, most notably demonstrated recently by the Supreme Court of the United States which legalized an oxymoron—–gay marriage. I have nothing against gays (guaranteed the Islamic world does) but gay marriage is as ridiculous as male nuns or female monks. Domestic partnerships for gays, granting them virtually all the same rights as married couples, would have been the far preferable route to go. But now, a permanent cultural divide has been created in the US which will NEVER heal.
I mention all this because a society which can validate an absurdity like gay marriage is a society that has lost its collective common sense and is most definitely not prepared to identify and deal with true evil, which the Islamic faith is through and through. In other words, there is a HUGE connection between validating something as oxymoronic as gay marriage and ignoring what Islam is really all about. Oh yeah, there is a connection. Big time. And one knows this or should know it.
gerard says
Makes you think of how great civilisations of the past fell…
Edward says
Great insight Wellington!
The Liberal agenda has abrogated the Holy Scriptures to their liking…..its going to take Divine retribution to undo this mess.
Our Creator has cleaned similar mess in the past and He will do it again. When will His human creations accept that we exist for God’s Glory and not ours!
Wellington says
And I’m not even a religious man, Edward, but I do know that Judeo-Christian ethics are rooted in common sense and with a theological take on things that works wonderfully well with enlightened democratic tenets.
Really, when it has finally arrived at a point that an agnostic like me has to defend the Judeo-Christian tradition, I submit that this serves, ipso facto, as damning evidence of just how bad things have become, of just how out-of-joint the times truly are.
The Judeo-Christian world should not need someone like me to stand up for it. But sadly it has come to this.
Telling. Damning. Profoundly troubling.
Edward says
Wellington, thanks for your caring and the fine thoughts:
“I do know that Judeo-Christian ethics are rooted in common sense and with a theological take on things that works wonderfully well with enlightened democratic tenets”
You are a man of reason and not of emotions.
Typical of a man created in God’s image/innate attributes.
Raja says
Edward,
It seems God does not intervene in natural laws but through the very same natural law brings out the fruits (good or bad). But God is doing His part in this fallen/rebellious world by cleansing it of bad elements. (Psalms 119:119). By the same logic there should be no breast beating if a muslim kills a muslim “apostate”. At the least not Cameron or Obama.
Linde Barrera says
To Wellington- Hello good sir. I read your posts with enthusiasm because I know I will always learn something new. You are a smart man. My question is: What is the difference psychologically, financially and for society between domestic partnership of 2 gay individuals and a gay marriage? I am a 64 year old, straight, Christian lady. I know straight Christians who support gay marriage, and I know straight Christians who support domestic partnership. Thank you.
Wellington says
Good question, Linde. Well, words sometimes mean things and that’s why, for instance, nuns are not called female monks and monks are not called female nuns. By going the route of gay marriage rather than domestic partnerships, those for gay marriage have terribly muddied the verbal waters. Even Howard “Screamin’ Dean, when Governor of Vermont, backed civil unions instead of gay marriage because, he said at the time, it would be way too divisive, especially respecting religious ramifications. I rarely agree with Dean but here he stumbled into the truth.
Gay marriage will have, I believe, a permanent and devastating cultural effect. It will be a wound that will never heal. It also is yet another step by the Left in making gender irrelevant, which I consider a terrible mistake. To the collective Left, race matters but gender doesn’t. To those of sense, race doesn’t matter but gender does. Go figure.
I find it stunning that mankind in every society without exception (including societies like ancient Greece where what we now call homosexual activities were tolerated or even encouraged) up until these very silly times we live in has considered gender distinction a sine qua non for marriage, quite understandable since marriage has existed first and foremost not for reasons of affection but rather for the orderly procreation of the species. No longer. Now marriage’s raison d’etre is affection with gender distinction obliterated. Frankly, I see a special kind of narcissism in this, as well as stupidity.
Something else. The Left is not finished. I think it will eventually go after the churches for being hate organizations and will do what it can to take away their tax-exempt status as well as engaging in a vilification the likes of which we have never seen. Stunning, isn’t it, that until those “enlightened” enough to come along to see that gender should not be a factor in marriage, all those heretofore through the centuries and millennia who believed that marriage should only be between those of opposite gender were, hey, who could doubt it, simply ignorant and, of course, bigots? The self-righteousness of many (though not all) who back gay marriage knows no bounds.
Also, if gender should not be a factor, then why should number? If all that matter is love and consent, why can’t we have polygamy or polyandry? All this nonsense will also open a door for Muslims to claim that a man not being permitted to marry up to four women, an Islamic doctrine, is also evidence of bigotry and unequal treatment under American law. Oh yeah, what a can of worms has been opened. And it didn’t need to be. Domestic partnerships (or civil unions) would have been the way to go because words sometimes matter a hell of a lot. As for any Christian who thinks gay marriage is OK, such a person simply and clearly does not know their own religion.
Thank you for your comment, Linde. Take good care.
Angemon says
Wellington posted:
“I mention all this because a society which can validate an absurdity like gay marriage is a society that has lost its collective common sense and is most definitely not prepared to identify and deal with true evil, which the Islamic faith is through and through.”
Gay marriage is the least of it:
http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/melanie-hunter/ice-transgender-illegals-guaranteed-right-hormone-therapy-detention
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/07/living/feat-planet-fitness-transgender-member/
http://dailycaller.com/2015/06/12/aclu-sues-to-allow-girl-to-use-boys-bathroom-locker-rooms-at-public-high-school/
Wellington says
It’s all dispositive, Angemon, of just how ludicrous an age we live in. One thing I am convinced of is that the two most destructive forces for the West are Islam and leftism. Minus these two, it would be a much safer and saner West.
PGuud says
Bravo, Wellington! I couldn’t agree more. Even as an atheist, I can appreciate the ideals of Judeo-Christianity.
Islam: where freedom ends and slavery begins.
Bamaguje says
And Cameron is supposed to be “conservative.” If he stupidly blathers like this, what would Labour (the more pusillanimous Muslim appeaser) do?
Since Cameron has a problem with BBC calling ISIS ‘Islamic state’, what would he rather BBC call Al-Baghdadi’s Caliphate?
It is absurd that Western leaders like Obama, Cameron and Abbott devote more time and energy shilling for Islam than Muslim propagandists.
gerard says
“what would he rather BBC call Al-Baghdadi’s Caliphate?”
Al Dysney World maybe?
Al Shirker’s Paradise?
Al Brave New Umma?
(Winning entry gets a free trip to Bagdad including camel rides and training in bomb-making).
Marty says
The Islamic State is the epitome of islam, and only a couple of degrees worse than that hellhole Saudi Arabia.
mortimer says
The various canonical Islamic subterfuges include equivocation, evasiveness, ambiguity, euphemism, rhetorical device of redefinition of words, lies of omission, and brazen lies.
They are all used in the verbal defense and dissimulation of jihad.
There is no reason for David Cameron to think the West will fall for it. The evidence is that Westerners are not falling for TAQIYYA and KITMAN of the House of Saud and their fellow travelers.
David Cameron will lose face by participating in this charade and criminal disinformation.
vlparker says
Moron.
gerard says
I wish the BBC would stop.
Georg says
I wish I was a millionaire.
gerard says
Bagdad Broadcasting Company
Georg says
If only we could get US politicians to get The 9/11 Report free of redactions. It’ll be a hoot to see them declare Saudi Arabia unIslamic. Mohammad made his bed. It’s time to face the consequences.
Georg says
*9/11 Joint Congressional Inquiry (not “The 9/11 report”)
US readers, please contact your congresspersons and demand this information be made known to the electorate. Florida ex-Senator Bob Graham maintains there is information linking not just Saudi individuals but members within Saudi government to the 9/11 highjackers, with financing and other matters. He had and has no reason to make this up.
Richie says
He’s almost an idiot
pdxnag says
It is like an unfaithful spouse concocting ever more brazen tales to deny deny deny, until the end of time.
Inviting people who propagate Islam into your house is supremely unfaithful because Islam is inherently violently seditious.
ZAHEER HUSAIN KHAN says
Subject: I.S / ISIS / ISIL These death cult is not a state and it’s certainly not Islamic
HOW ABSOLUTELY TRUE .
EVERY MUSLIM ,SHIA OR SUNNI DON’T RECOGNISE THEM ie I S OR WAHIBBITES . NOW THE EUROPE, U K & U.S. CHRISTIANS HAVE FULLY REALISED THAT THESE ARE THE MAIN VILLIANS OF TERRORISM AND SOURCE FOR WORLD WIDE VIOLENCE . ARE THE MUSLIMS, SHIAS AND
SUNNIS AS WELL AS CHRISTIANS OF THE WORLD ARE SO IMPOTENT THAT THEY CAN’T BE UNITED AND TOGETHER THEY THROW THEM OUT OF EXISTANCE . IT IS JUST A SIMPLE MATTER,
WHY LET ALL THE PEOPLE SUFFER ALL THE TIME . WHAT PREVENTS YOU TO MAKE THIS WORLD PEACEFUL AND WORTH LIVING.
MAKKAH & MADINAH SHOULD GET VATICAN LIKE STATUS .
Linde Barrera says
To Zaheer Husayn Khan- There are more than 52 Muslim majority countries. None of them are fighting IS/ISIS/ISIL, or have any desire to kill their extremist, pious Muslim brothers. That’s why the stupid kaffirs get asked to fight IS. So what you talking ’bout “Willis”?
Joseph says
@ Linde Barrera
NICE rebuttal.
Linde Barrera says
To Joseph- Thank you for the compliment. I hate it when people deliberately spread lies. Or they may actually be delusional and spout stuff to look all “big and bad”, or to get sympathy. They might want to give a “tip” that’s actually propaganda. Whatever the case, we anti-jihadists need to learn the truth and get it out there, big time. PS — I like your writing too.
Linde Barrera says
To Zaheer Husain Khan- Did not mean to misspell your name.
Joseph says
@ Linde Barrera
I would have misspelled his name, after all I never seem to be able to spell Stardusty Psyche in my replies.
kay says
ZHK, you are wrong.
Islamic State is a CLASSICAL Sunni Islam military-political-social-religous organization. It works from Salafist and Wahabi principles, including full Sharia and attacks on Sufi Muslims and Shia Muslims. They do not share power and they do not brook opposition, nor do they accept the concept of nation-states, Muslim or otherwise, nor ANY concept of human rights. It’s all theocracy and total submission.
They actively promote classical aggressive Islam in all respects : abduction of girls and women, slavery, forced child marriage, death for apostasy and disobedience, war on non-Muslim populations, and totalitarian rule by a Caliph whose only mission is Sharia Law and takeover of non-Muslim lands, communities, and countries. Their policy is Total War and the Total Society ( totalitarian rule ), Sharia style. Their goal is to destroy all of western civilization. They have supporters in ninety countries.
The book reference for this is Dr. Andrew Boscom’s “Legacy of Jihad”.
http://www.amazon.com/Legacy-Jihad-Andrew-Bostom-M-D/dp/1591026024
Also necessary is Dr. Bill Warner:
http://www.politicalislam.com/about/
—–
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-33291429
What is a caliphate?
¦An Islamic state ruled by a single political and religious leader, or Caliph
¦Caliphs are regarded by their followers as successors to the Prophet Muhammad and the leader of all Muslims
¦First caliphate came into being after Muhammad’s death in 632
¦In the centuries which followed, caliphates had dominion in the Middle East and North Africa
¦The last widely accepted caliphate was abolished in 1924 by Turkish leader Kemal Ataturk after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire
—–
I’m working on the Brits. It’s a teachable moment right now. ( And I have covered ALL of Australia. )
http://bestofbritish.tribe.net/thread/3261952e-fbc2-45a8-a6df-960bf76cdf17#d3454c92-7201-4cdf-b56a-6b7e71d45a32
Also
http://bestofbritish.tribe.net/thread/d2d48dd7-08cd-4d9e-a2be-232a809b357f
Crixus says
The leaders of the West are exactly what Lenin called Useful Idiots. Furthermore they have lost the confidence of the electorate on this and are completely out of touch with the national mood.
boris99 says
Cameron is being unfair. The BBC constantly refers to IS as the “so called” Islamic State.
Richard says
Rule and religion no longer coincide … as some would say this has profound implications for challenges to conventional State monopoly of the means of coercion and that is the challenge which faces leaders. If ISIS is not a de facto State, then what is it ?
duh_swami says
The world of make believe…That’s where these elitist dullards live. Harry Potterists…Make believe from a book they never read, but they might have seen the movie…’Living in fear of the Religion of Peace’…
The vilest of creatures says
The gall of these PC leaders is beyond comprehension. It’s kind of like another world leader saying, “I wish people would stop calling them a United Kingdom, they are not a kingdom’!
gerard says
I wish, I wish,
I wish I were a fish!
I’d swim away to sea.
Far away from Jihadi
And useless Policy
And cowardly denial.
I’d make a trial
Of vast oceans
And reefs
And better beliefs.
I wish I were a fish..
Brien says
This is the reason why we are not stopping the Islamic takeover of our civilisations. Our politicians are scared of offending the ‘other’ 1.5 billion Moslems. Our politicians are scared to start the war which is inevitable, and will cost millions of lives and billions of dollars, with no guaranteed outcome.