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Video: Pamela Geller schools Chris Cuomo about the freedom of speech and Islam

Jun 4, 2015 10:18 am By Robert Spencer

Chris Cuomo here reveals his abysmal ignorance about the nature of the freedom of speech, the meaning of Sharia, and much more. Pamela Geller handles him brilliantly, when he is not interrupting her and changing the subject.

But the fact that this naive and ignorant fool has a major program on a major network is a sign of the trouble we are in.

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  1. AnneCrockett says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:27 am

    This naive and ignorant fool has a major program on a major network has a show because of his last name.

    • VRWC member77 says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 8:46 pm

      He is one slimy peace of garbage. On a previous video with her he called Geert Wilders “a known islamophobe” as if his dhimmi-witted opinion carried some type of factual weight. I saw what he was trying to do in diverging the conversation. Thankfully Pamela saw through it and cleaned his dhimmi clock.

      The only reason he did this follow-up interview was because he knows how bad he got his a** handed to him in the last interview.

    • JayT says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 10:41 pm

      I’m going to disagree with you on some points. I’ve never seen that guy on CNN as I tend to watch FOX. He said he brings her on the show and that should count for something – that’s true. He didn’t try to embarrass her or shut her off completely. Yes, he did a lot of interrupting, but if you watch Hannity its a lot less in a debate form and more of a shut down approach at FOX. The guy debated her and win or lose that’s how he should conduct his job. I admire Geller and agree with her major points, but she tends to let those who debate her get under her skin too easy and loses focus. Spencer is a much better debater and keeps as cool as a cucumber which allows him to keep track of any openings in a debate. Geller should have brought up Rushdie on a perpetual death warrant and for South Park she should have mentioned why was it fine for them to show Mohammed in an animated cartoon but she needs to refrain from drawing one on paper? She could have also hammered his network on did they spend as much time researching the Coptic Christian who made the “offensive” video got thrown in jail as they did trying to follow a missing Malaysian plane? Geller could’ve also mentioned there are a myriad of colonial times cartoons that satirists made of our founding fathers yet no one ordered their deaths. I believe one of them actually depicted Abraham Lincoln as a monkey. Where was the mention of in Mohammed’s bloody history he ordered the death of a poet and approved of it because he didn’t like being made fun of? That’s a critical point she could have thrown at him to tie what the man claimed was just tradition to the source himself! Spencer would not have missed that IMO.

      • VRWC member77 says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 4:50 pm

        @JayT

        He’s supposed to be interviewing her. He’s not there to debate her. Yes, he can ask her challenging questions but that’s not what he was doing in the first interview. Remember, I’m referring to the previous interview which took place about a week ago.

        I completely disagree with you regarding her focus. In fact that was my main point. The segment only gave her so much time to make her point and her point was that freedom of speech is not compatible with sharia law. coumo tried to steer her off by calling Wilders “a known islamophobe” in order to distract her from the main point of the conversation. All through that interview he revealed how ignorant he was about Islamic teachings. In this interview he further showed his ignorance when he said sharia doesn’t have blasphemy laws against drawing muhammed.

        Robert Spencer is a scholar and has been studying Islam and its teachings for over 30 years. Of course he would absolutely destroy coumo in any setting but his time and energy is better served in other venues Spencer usually engages in a moderated debate setting where he has the time to elaborate on the subjects of debate. Again, in these “interview” settings Geller only has so much time to make a point on a specific topic and the aspects of that topic relate directly to a perpetual threat on her life. If coumo was really concerned about that he would have let her make her case without his ignorant interruptions. And I don’t believe he rattled her. Everything he tried to throw at her she answered. He couldn’t defend a single point. I’d be pretty darned aggressive if I was in her situation. Spencer, Geller, David Wood and others all have their own communication style. What’s important is that they be effective in their presentations and I think they are.

        Every point you mentioned regarding the events that have occurred as a result of sharia enforcement are true and should be constantly and under certain conditions, aggressively discussed. They should be exposed by as many people as possible. I think we need 1000 more Pamela Gellers. She understands what’s at stake and there isn’t a lot of time.

        • JayT says

          Jun 7, 2015 at 11:30 pm

          @VRWC I don’t have any issues that we disagree with each other. That’s what the 1st amendment is supposed to protect. I want to point out that “interview” on any major network where you know the network isn’t on your side is in fact a debate. For example, would one knowingly accept an interview on MSNBC as a known harsh critic of Obama (I get a tingly feeling up my leg – Oberman) and actually expect the kind of interview you would get from a high school paper regarding one’s thoughts on property taxes? Of course not! When Geller or Spencer or any other known critic of Islam accepts an interview from CNN, MSNBC, ABC, Al-Jazeera, etc. you had better know it’s going to be a debate going in at best and a shut down effort at worst. Chris Wallace on FOX does not care what side of an issue you are on – if you are on his program advocating cloud seeding or whatever he is going to debate you and bring up the devil’s advocate side. That’s a good journalist – a bad one would be just asking questions and then at the end saying, “Well, okay I’m done have a good day.” Next time you see Obama at a POTUS news conference or state department head see if they only “interview” or do the challenge the responses?

          On your other point, I will agree with you it would not be fair to imply Geller should do as well as Spencer in a debate given a difference in time commitment to the subject. It is not reasonable to say expect anyone to study the New Testament then give a discourse on the complete subject as well as say a Franciscan monk who has spent a lifetime studying the same subject. Nevertheless, as far as the viewer is concerned, a substantial difference is noticeable and reasons as to why matter not to a general viewer. It’s like saying I didn’t write this novel as well as J.R.R. Tolkien because I didn’t have the same background – the reader doesn’t care they only judge the product in front of them. I still stand by what I say that Geller lets herself get derailed too easily once the hot sauce is pouring out from both sides of the issue.

  2. John C. Barile says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:39 am

    Chris may be obstinate about his respectable mainstream orthodoxies, but he’s done a great service to his viewers to have Pamela Geller on his show for such lively give-and-take. Pam gives a sterling performance; she holds her own here and delivers her message right on target.

    • mortimer says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 11:03 am

      Agree. Cuomo is no fool and good journalism is adversarial…this was adversarial and it brought out the BEST in Pamela. Congratulations!

      Cuomo may be naïve about normative Islamic supremacism, but he is teachable. I believe he will change his tune. Everyone who studies Islam changes their tune unless they are paid with Gulf oil money like Esposito.

      Political, supremacist Islam is normative Islam.

      • karen says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 12:36 am

        Yes, Ms. Geller was brilliant in this interview!!

  3. Jaladhi says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:48 am

    The world refuses to learn from 1400 years of Islam’s murderous history and keeps on giving pass to Muslims. People like Cuomo represent the fools in the MSM and keep blaming the people who tell the truth about Islam and Muslims.

    We have no other choice but keep on spreading the truth about Islam and its murderous/criminal and atrocious behavior!! Hope its not too late by the time people start listening.

    • wildjew says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 10:54 am

      About 2/3 the way through this video., Chris Cuomo said: “I say they (the jihadists) are crazy. You say they are devout. That’s me being more hostile to them than you….”

      NO. He is wrong. Dead wrong. Cuomo is not being more hostile. He is being more sympathetic.. This is Cuomo’s way of acquitting these devout practitioners of Islam from culpability. Many, perhaps most people when they hear crazy or insane think the person is not responsible for his or her behavior. These Muslims are not crazy. They are not insane. They are not psychopaths. They are devout Muslims as are millions of Muslims worldwide who sympathize with them.

      Robert Spencer: Chris Cuomo here reveals his abysmal ignorance about the nature of the freedom of speech, the meaning of Sharia, and much more. Pamela Geller handles him brilliantly, when he is not interrupting her and changing the subject….”

      Right. The Sharia has no basis in the Qur’an? Really?

      • mortimer says

        Jun 4, 2015 at 11:07 am

        Chris Cuomo said: “I say they (the jihadists) are crazy.”

        Studies of jihadists’ education and socioeconomic levels have consistently disproved Cuomo’s uneducated guess. Jihadists are mainly well-off, educated and SANE.

        The Economist reported in 2010:

        “Social scientists have collected a large amount of data on the socioeconomic background of terrorists. According to a 2008 survey of such studies by Alan Krueger of Princeton University, they have found little evidence that the typical terrorist is unusually poor or badly schooled.

        In the same vein, CNS News noted in September 2013:

        “According to a Rand Corporation report on counterterrorism, prepared for the Office of the Secretary of Defense in 2009, “Terrorists are not particularly impoverished, uneducated, or afflicted by mental disease. Demographically, their most important characteristic is normalcy (within their environment). Terrorist leaders actually tend to come from relatively privileged backgrounds.” One of the authors of the RAND report, Darcy Noricks, also found that according to a number of academic studies, “Terrorists turn out to be more rather than less educated than the general population.”

        The Times Online reported the following as far back as April 2005:

        “Three-quarters of the Al-Qaeda members were from upper middle-class homes and many were married with children; 60% were college educated, often in Europe or the United States.

        There are innumerable examples of affluent Muslims becoming jihad terrorists. One was Maher “Mike” Hawash of Portland, Oregon, a well-regarded Intel executive who made $360,000 a year at the crest of a highly successful career. Around the year 2000, Hawash began to become more religious, growing his beard long, rejecting the nickname “Mike,” and attending the supremacist Islamic Center of Portland. Ultimately he served a seven-year prison term for conspiring to aid the Taliban…

        Cuomo should remember that many top-ranking Nazis had PhDs in law. Those Nazis were not ‘insane’ either.

        • mortimer says

          Jun 4, 2015 at 11:11 am

          Does Cuomo also believe devout Nazis were ‘insane’?

          The evidence is those deadly Nazis were competent, organized, efficient, intelligent and focused…perfectly sane, but with a strong, delusional IDEATION…just like most of the jihadists.

        • wildjew says

          Jun 4, 2015 at 11:16 am

          Thanks.

      • mortimer says

        Jun 4, 2015 at 11:15 am

        WJ wrote: “The Sharia has no basis in the Qur’an? Really?”

        Sharia law is the ‘driver’ of Islam, similar to the operating system in a computer.

      • Jaladhi says

        Jun 4, 2015 at 11:36 am

        >Chris Cuomo said: “I say they (the jihadists) are crazy. You say they are devout. That’s me being more hostile to them than you….”<

        This comment is a product of the lefty liberal ideology which refuses to call evil an evil. Liberals would rather call the jihadis as crazy and give them and Islam a pass as if this is due to some mental illness. Even if one assumes their mental illness then they should know it is induced by Quran and the religion of Islam.

        Yes, jihadis are devout Muslims and following the path shown by their ideal man Mo/allah! By liberal arguments Mo was "crazy" too and therefore all his criminal actions should be forgiven!

      • karen says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 12:43 am

        Yes, Cuomo was patting himself on the back with that one, and weirdly trying to one-up Ms. Geller, while playing all possible angles, and not saying anything meaninful. A self-serving, silly comment. “I’m against crazy terrorists!” Gee, what a bold stand!!

      • underbed cat says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 12:05 pm

        CNN’s Chris Cuomo’s comment ,”I say the (jihadists) are crazy,you say they are devout, that’s me being more hostile to them then you”, exposes the result from listening to Muslims explaining their religion (and following sharia law not to tell the truth, deception is permissible) as experts instead of the truth that jihadist are devoutly following sharia and islam. They cannot tell Chris Cuomo this particular important part of Islam because they (muslims) are not allowed to speak the truth, (penalty death according to sharia law which all muslims must follow. So yes, he defamed Islam and could by calling them crazy, but a jihadist reacts violently to truth. And the is Islam…he shows he has not read the Quran or Sharia Law text. Speaking the truth about Islam is the worst type of slander.

      • voegelinian says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 8:28 pm

        Yes wildjew, I zeroed in on that too. Not only is Cuomo being softer than Geller on the jihadists by insisting on highlighting they are “crazy” rather than “devout”, he is also thereby trying to disconnect Islam itself from the jihadists — either cleverly or obtusely (likely the latter).

        • voegelinian says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 8:31 pm

          In addition, Cuomo is also trying to disconnect jihadism from Muslims — only the Tiny Minority of Extremists are “crazy”, and being “crazy” is not normative — the vast majority of Muslims, like the practitioners of any religion, are not “crazy”, you see… By labeling as “crazy” such fanaticism as drive jihadists to murder over blasphemy, one is ipso facto protecting the vast majority of Muslims, since over a billion people cannot possibly be afflicted with mass “craziness”, right? They can, however, be afflicted with collective, common devoutness — the same devoutness that leads jihadists to murder: the devoutness of normative, mainstream, traditional Islam.

    • spot on says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 3:15 pm

      Chris Cuomo said: “I say they (the jihadists) are crazy.”

      Crazy people doing bad things to people is unfortunately part of American life. Nazis or Jihadists doing bad things to people is not part of our life and must never be part of our life. The latter are foreign invaders here to destroy us. They are not crazy because if they are the enemy. They are brainwashed soldiers of Allah just as Nazis were brainwashed soldiers of Hitler, If they succeed in their efforts we are dead and they win the war. Make no mistake, we are at war.

      Chris Cuomo is systematically defending the Muslim enemies as crazy to distract the audience from the real facts. Cuomo is on the enemies side. Reading the Koran 24/7 will destroy a normal American’s mind and turn that mind into a serial killer (aka Jihadist) for Allah. Jihadists are not crazy. They are evil serial killers consumed with hatred and with killing innocent people. Cuomo brushing them off as crazy is nonsense.

  4. Neil jennison says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:48 am

    What a complete dhimmie muppet that man is!

    • wildjew says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 10:55 am

      He is pitiful.

  5. Jayke says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:57 am

    Calling Cuomo a fool is an insult to fools.

  6. KrazyKafir says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:00 am

    Just another, empty shell liberal dhimmi stooge.

  7. Ayatrollah says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:01 am

    It is about shariah law. We must submit or we are offending them.

  8. Jay Boo says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:03 am

    Unbelievable

    Chris Cuomo actually pats himself on the back for whitewashing Islam beginning at the 6:17 point of video.
    He actually brags that he calls jihadists murderers versus devout
    He claims (falsely) that he is more provocative than Pamela because he calls MUSLIM jihadists “crazy”
    and he won’t say their (Muslim) names.
    We are supposed to believe that his calling of terrorist acts as “cowardice” totally excuses his use of that word merely as a generic stand-alone euphemism to avoiding any mention of Islam that motivated the cowardice.

  9. Angemon says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:04 am

    Oh, for f***’s sake. Cuomo crystallizes everything wrong in the mainstream nowadays. “Sharia is not mainstream”? What schools of islamic jurisprudence don’t teach sharia? “Indonesia and Pakistan have other law systems”? Those systems are the artifacts of European presence. Indonesia and Pakistan also have islamic groups trying to make sharia the law of the land, and I don’t see “mainstream” muslims telling it shouldn’t. “I call them crazy, you call them devout, ergo, you’re in the wrong”? Oh, bollocks. Pamela calls a spade a spade while Cuomo calls it “a thing that can be used to do stuff”. “Sharia is not in the quran”? Really? Clearly someone forgot to tell that to the islamic scholars who based islamic law on the quran, sunnah and ahadith.

    Cuomo, who failed to present his credentials in islamic studies, should be charged with reckless endangerment for lying about the nature of the problem. Trust him at your own peril.

    • Kepha says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 5:49 pm

      Good point Angemon. I lost Chris Cuomo early on, but REALLY lost all sympathy for his position when he said Sharia “isn’t mainstream Islam”.

      Pam, kudos for standing for free speech–and truly doing so. Too often, I hear people loftily say, “I disagree with what you say, but will fight to the death for your right to say it”, and then I run to make sure all the silver is safely in its drawer (perhaps because I hear it from the Left most of the time?). I also think Cuomo should’ve paused and thought when Pam quoted Patrick Henry. Pam has truly put herself on the line for free speech, which is far more than any of these slick television pundits have done.

  10. Ayatrollah says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:06 am

    Where does it get shariah is a cultural thing? He know nothing about shariah. So the Coptic Christians get the same culture as Pakistan.

  11. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:09 am

    Mr. Cuomo is a candidate for the “Islam: The Learning Curve”.
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/home/root/news-libertygb/4402-islam-the-learning-curve
    He explains his own handicap when he cites that he has advisors who are Muslim.
    Search “Taqiyya”, Mr. Cuomo.

    • Jaladhi says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 11:26 am

      Ha, ha, ha,.. he has advisors who are Muslims. Cuomo never heard of taqiyya! Only if he had been reading our comments here, he would have learned more about Islam than what he learns from those Islamic lies of Muslim advisors! Anyway his comment is good for laugh!!

  12. Bezelel says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:22 am

    Cuomo does illustrate the effectiveness of the islamic BS campaign and the need for accurate information.

  13. David Trout says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:27 am

    True Muslims worldwide should continually & publicly denounce ISIS & all acts of terrorism perpetrated by any professed Muslim. Especially the American Muslim community. With every single act of terrorism publicized, the media should televise Muslim leaders speaking against such acts & reiterate their condemnation of all terrorists.

  14. Don McKellar says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:38 am

    I found the way he phrased and put most of his questions quite smart near the beginning of the interview. It was as if he was sending up the usual canards like piñatas and letting Geller destroy them with her big stick. It didn’t seem like he actually believed them in the first place and was playing the devil’s advocate. At least that’s how it seemed to me.

  15. Isabellathecrusader says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:55 am

    “…The question that I think your behavior raises…”

    WTF? Chris, you impossible liberal ass, you are focusing on Pamela’s behavior? Got any problem with behavior that encourages a beheading to stop disagreement? Do you have any problem with a human being cutting out a little girl’s clitoris with a rusty piece of metal? Any problem with dropping homosexuals on their heads from ten stories up? Do you have any issues with human beings going into a village somewhere in Africa, forcing the sleeping citizens out of their beds at gunpoint, making everyone watch several rapes and murders in the town square and then burning the entire village down? Got any problem with that Chris? Sorry to break it to you, Sweetie, but that is not Pamela’s behavior. That behavior is owned by the Muslims, who perpetrate it now on a daily basis and who you are TOO AFRAID to acknowledge by telling the truth about what they are really, truly doing to other people on the planet.

    George Orwell said, “In a time of universal deceit – telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” Indeed. Count Chris Cuomo with all the other lemmings.

  16. DP111 says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 12:05 pm

    Sharia in NOT Islam.

    Who knew.

    Islam without Sharia is like Chrsitianity without Jesus Christ.

  17. Dan says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    Chris is a dhimmi-wit.

  18. Michael Copeland says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 12:21 pm

    “Sharia is not mainstream muslim thought, as you know. No, it is a cultural adaptation.”
    Chris Cuomo at 7:11.
    All that taqiyya from those muslim advisors is showing.
    “Islam is Sharia and Sharia is Islam”,
    Fouad Belkacem, “Abu Imran”, of Sharia4Belgium.
    Islam is the ideology of killing. See what muslim spokesmen themselves say (to other muslims):
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5789-ideology-of-killing

  19. Westman says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 12:46 pm

    Congress and the MSM talking heads have the same problem; they don’t do the important self-educating research themselves. Organizations ultimately isolate the top of administration, refusing to be the bearer of truthful bad news. Two oceans of isolation can keep the citizens unconcerned and feeding at the Media Circus. Are we keeping up with the celebritries today?

    Pamela Geller continues to be punished by a media that erroneously appropriated the narrative of “peaceful” Islam without adequate knowledge and is now invested in maintaining that error for the sake of credibility.

    Who will be the next Walter Cronkite? Will there be one?

    • quotha raven says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 11:36 am

      to Westman – If I’m not mistaken, Walter Kronkite was a communist. Cheers! Quotha R

  20. nacazo says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    Chris, without the freedom of speech that Pamela is defending, you may as well close CNN and look for another job. Pamela is fighting so that you can keep your job, Chrissy-boy!

  21. Wellington says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 1:09 pm

    Cuomo would do well to consider the truth of what Ibn Warraq asserted and that is that there are moderate Muslims but there is no moderate Islam. People like Cuomo continue to make the fundamental mistake that there is a benign, a good, Islam lurking out there. There isn’t. There are just some Muslims who aren’t as ready as others to implement Islamic dictates.

    The Islamic faith is evil. Many Muslims who follow it are evil too precisely because they are Muslim. All Muslims, no exception, are at least confused human beings and they no more deserve respect than do adherents of other totalitarian ideologies like Nazism and Marxism.

    The fundamental problem remains and that is the refusal to see Islam, all of it, as malevolent. As long as Islam itself gets any kind of a pass, the West will remain on the defensive and the Pamela Gellers, Robert Spencers and Geert Wilders out there will continue to be vilified.

    The “corner of corners” which needs to be turned is Islam no longer looked upon at all as a positive. Once that happens, it will be Islam that will be on the defensive and then, and only then, will victory be in sight for liberty and equality under the law.

  22. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    But the fact that this naive and ignorant fool has a major program on a major network is a sign of the trouble we are in.

    And it’s a deep hole of trouble, with even our more informed news entertainers — such as Hannity and Megyn Kelly — adamantly clinging to the logically and factually self-defeating concept of radical Islamist:

    Hannity
    Kelly
    O’Reilly
    Ingraham
    Medved
    etc.
    All of the bobbleheads on MSNBC
    CNN
    ABC
    NBC
    CBS
    All of the major newspapers, without exception, including the WSJ and even Investors Daily

    Oddly Limbaugh and Levin are adroitly silent on what Islam really is, what Moslems really are.

  23. dlbrand says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    Good job, Pamela. You and yours are in my prayers.

    That stated, the following:

    “No, by your Lord, they are not believers until they make you their judge in the disputes that break out between them, and then find no resistance, (nor any doubt or constriction), within themselves to what you decide but submit themselves completely (and will obey your judgments without question).

    (Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, Jalalu’ D-Din Muhammad Ibn Ahmad, Al-Mahalli and Jalalu’ D-Din as-Suyuti, Aisha Bewley’s Translation , Dar Al Taqwa Ltd. London, 2007; An-Nisa 4:65 [Exegesis of text is that within brackets].)

    Briefly here: Mr. Cuomo if I may enlighten you, and anyone else suffering from the degree of ignorance on Islam, as well as on the duty of all Muslims to comply with its authoritative works, that you, Sir, clearly suffer from; regard the following.

    In the Commentary, Ma’ariful Qur’an, well-versed on the consensus of the notable scholars that proceeded him, the revered scholar and author provides this clarity on Islam, its so-called prophet, that man’s sunnah, which was/is his Shariah, the Shariah of Islam.

    (With respect to the just cited author: Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi was an eminent Islamic scholar and professor, former grand Mufti of Darul-Uloom Deoband, prolific writer and thus author of “about one hundred books on different Islamic and literary subjects.” For ten years, every Friday, he gave lectures on Radio Pakistan. Lectures in which, each week selected verses of the Qur’an were explained to the general audience.

    So welcomed was “this weekly programme [sic] of Radio Pakistan” by the Muslims across the globe and, reportedly, “listened to by thousands of Muslims, not only in Pakistan and India but also in Western and African countries,” when the radio program was discontinued, then began the request, “from all over the world to transfer this series in a book-form.” And to do so, completing the yet to be addressed sections of the Qur’an, and with that done, produce the complete work “in the shape of a regular commentary.”

    [Mariful Qur’an, A Comprehensive commentary on the Holy Qur’an, By Maulana Mufti Muhammad Shafi, translated by, Muhammad Shamim and Muhammad Wali Raazi, Revised by Maulana Muhammad Taqi ‘Usmani, Fourth Edition, 2007, Maktaba-e-Darul- ‘Uloom, Karachi, 14 Pakistan. Vol. I, Forward, xvi.]

    That completed work is named after the name of that radio program: Ma’ariful-Qur’an [The Wisdom of the Holy Qur’an]. )

    Mr. Cuomo given this works stamp of approval by the Muslim world, it is an invaluable source of information on basic, “true, and pure” Islamic tenets and teachings. Those embraced, as stated, “by the Muslims across the globe.”

    Therefore, speaking to the precept set forth in the verse at the top of this post, regard the following from the said revered Islamic scholar:

    The Authority of the Holy Prophet extends to all times

    …. Acting in accordance with this command of the Holy Qur’an is not restricted to the blessed times when he graced this mortal world. After him, the verdict of the sacred Law left by him, is nothing but his own verdict. Therefore, the rule reigns [sic] supreme right through the Last Day, the rule that guidance should be sought by turning directly to the Holy Prophet, during his blessed lifetime, and after him, one must turn to his Shariah which is, in all reality, a return to him, may Allah bless him for ever and ever. (MQ, V. 2, P. 487)

    Same source, same topic, from another page, in another Volume , speaking to “conditions attached to the acceptance of deeds”:

    “….On of the conditions required that no deed is accepted unless it comes with ‘Iman (faith, belief) and is in accordance with Shari’ah (Law) and Sunnah (sayings and deeds of the Prophet)…. These are rules set by the Shariah of Islam.” (Ma’a iful Qur’an, Vol. 5, P. 479.)

    Speaking to the same verse, this from Sahih Muslim:

    The verse lays down in unequivocal terms the obligation of every Muslim to submit to the ordinances which the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) promulgated with a view to exemplifying the message of the Qur’an and enabling the believers to apply that to actual situations. These Ordinances constitute what is described as the Sunnah of the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) and it has full legal force side by side with the Qur’an.

    (Sahih Muslim, By Imam Muslim, Rendered in English by ‘Abdul Hamid Siddiqi, Islamic Book Service, Fourth Edition, 2005, Vol. VI. p. 67, FN.)

    Those two sources, Sir, are the two primary sources that form the Shariah. All other sources must agree with these two primary sources or they have no part in Shariah. In brief, as the said sources provide a mountain of evidence asserting the same; between the Qur’an, the Sunnah of the “prophet, his Shariah– the Shariah of Islam–there is zero daylight.

    What’s more, with respect to the reason Geller is on your show today, these from the Qur’an:

    “As for those who abuse Allah and His Messenger [– meaning unbelievers who … deny His Messenger–] Allah’s curse is on them in this world …. ” (33:57)

    “They are an accursed people [– far from mercy]. Wherever they are found they should be seized and mercilessly put to death. [This is the judgment on them.]” (33:61)

    (Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, Jalalu’ D-Din Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Al-Mahalli and Jalalu’ D-Din as-Suyuti, Aisha Bewley’s Translation , Dar Al Taqwa Ltd. London, 2007. [Exegesis of text is that within brackets])

    On the same, this addendum: From the revered Scholars of Islam–those obedient to “Allah” and thus faithful and diligent to refer to the primary sources which provide Islamic legalities and guidance; regarding that due those who find fault with the “prophet” of Islam, and/or in that in the book he brought, this consensus:

    “Know that all who curse Muhammad, may Allah bless and grant him peace, or blame him or attribute imperfection to him in his person, his linage, his deen or any of his qualities, or alludes to that or its like by any means whatsoever, whether in the form of a curse or contempt or belittling him or detracting from him or finding fault with him or maligning him, the judgement [sic] regarding such a person is the same as the judgement against anyone who curses him. He is killed as we shall make clear. This judgement extends to anything which amounts to a curse or disparagement. We have no hesitation concerning this matter, be it a clear statement of allusion.

    The same applies to anyone who curses him, invokes against him, desires to harm him, ascribes to him what does not befit his position or jokes about his mighty affairs with foolish talk, satire, disliked words or lies, or reviles him….All of this is the consensus of the ulama and the imams of fatwa from the time of the Companions until today.”

    (Muhammad Messenger of Allah, Ash-Shifa [Kitab Ash-shifa ta ‘rif huquq al-Mustafa, (Healing by the recognition of the Rights of the Chosen One)], of Qadi ‘Iyad Ibn Musa al-Yasubi; Aisha Abdarrahman Bewley translation, Medinah Press, Cape Town, South Africa, Seventh print, 2008, 1429H, P. 373.)

  24. somehistory says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    islam presents itself in America as a culture, a religion and a race. These points are outstandingly made by Daniel Greenfield at:
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2015/dgreenfield/how-islam-in-america-became-a-privileged-religion/

    Mr. Greenfield explains the ways and times muslims present islam as a *culture* and the reasons for doing so. He details how and when they present as a *race* and why this is effective. And He shows when they claim *religion* and the laws that are made (to protect all religion and races), muslims exploit in order to overcome any objections to what they do.

    Those people such as this news host should read and try to understand what it means for them to keep being able to accurately report news events, and to speak their mind when they choose to.

    As for muslims being *crazy*…being insane and being a psychopath are not one and the same. The prisons are full of psychopaths, but they are not *insane.* Most are very smart also, and can manipulate some of the best psychologists. All should read books by Robert Hare. He gives such a wealth of information he gained while working in prisons. Psychopaths have no empathy, no conscience, no love or fellow feeling….just like devout muslims. The one big difference is, muslims have their false god, the beast of islam, to give them cover for their sadistic acts.

  25. dlbrand says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Eddie, Are you near Tulsa, I’m thinking Claremore, Pryor area; Rogers, Mayes, Tulsa county, or …?

    Foxnews 23, Tulsa has a link for story tips; I would certainly be willing to contact them and see if they would be willing to interview you, Eddie, feature your story.

    Jack, what response did you get back from Bridenstine?

    I’m not sure just how informed on Islam he is or how willing he is to act on the information on Islam he is provided with. Not so with Representative John Bennet.

    (http://www.okhouse.gov/District.aspx?District=2)

    He himself has been the recipient of death threats from the “believers” secondary to his stated candor on Islam. He is SE section of OK, Sellisaw, Vian area.

    (https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Oklahoma+congressman+speaks+out+against+Islam)

    Eddie, thank you for posting your story. I will be sharing it. God bless and keep you.

    Thank you for your number. When opportune time allows, I will call you. My name is Debi Brand, “dl”

    I will do all within my power to get your story told.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Jun 4, 2015 at 9:58 pm

      I won’t have a response until tomorrow. But in light of all the posts that have disappeared
      … something is a bit odd here.

  26. Jack Diamond says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:05 pm

    nor did I call you. I emailed the Congressman’s office, I did not call and have not received a reply. I have no idea who called you.

  27. frosty says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 10:38 pm

    I think it’s a great interview, Geller put it out there. It’s great it was on CNN! She even got Chris Cuomo to admit sharia is an excuse for savagery

  28. Brian Hatherly says

    Jun 4, 2015 at 11:24 pm

    I notice that CNN is having a good go at Walid shobat as well and the Shobat Foundation…just typical of the misinformation that is being spread by CNN

  29. karen says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:22 am

    Ms. Geller was brilliant in this interview, like she always is. “You are submitting”; yes, legions of people are; they just don’t realize it, and it’s very disturbing.

    Cuomo has some interesting mental partitions. Amusing how he tries to play all sides, proudly pointing out he showed a Hebdo cartoon (such a hero), while telling Ms. Geller she shouldn’t, but can, but ….shouldn’t. Like John Kerry, he’s both for and against it. Apparently he is also quite dense; he called the P— Christ art exhibit a freedom of speech issue, while he apparently thinks the Garland event wasn’t. You have to either work hard at not seeing the parallels, or just be a tad oblivious.

  30. Mary Sue says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 4:05 am

    Chris Cuomo does the doubletalk like a pro. He learned it from dear old Fidel Castro.

  31. Rev. Bill Romansky says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 9:48 am

    I will come to “this event” with my 2nd Amendment fully intact, Chris, and effectively annul those who would attack the 1st Amendment. Don’t worry about me.

  32. Jere Joiner says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 12:10 pm

    I am a big fan of Pamela Geller! Hooray for someone willing to speak out, who is not afraid to speak the truth and defend the right of free speech. She recognizes something media people do not, that Islam threatens the foundations of this country. Islam has been dedicated to conquest from the 7th century onward. Adherents to Islam were thwarted by European Christians, but now they’re back and on the attack again. How many people have to die before the media recognizes the threat? The first thing Islam would do if it takes over in this country is shut down all media that do not advance the cause of Islam. Think the weenies in the media today recognize this? Not a chance — they take off after Pamela Geller as though she is some kind of nut. Hang in there, Pamela, non illigitimus carborundum.

  33. underbed cat says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 2:20 pm

    To Robert Spencer,J.W., while watching the CNN video of the Chris Cuomo and Pamela Geller interview, I noticed a small square of an image that overlapped the CNN description at bottom of video, that appeared to be like an isis image or jihadi….then at the end of the video a Les Grossman name appeared on a red screen background….again an image….has anyone else seen this,,,who is Les Grossman? What is the “new les grossman station? Should I be concerned…?

    • Angemon says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 3:04 pm

      It’s the name of the YT channel who uploaded the video.

      I mean, the name of the channel of whoever it was who uploaded the video.

    • quotha raven says

      Jun 5, 2015 at 3:16 pm

      Underbed Cat – Wow. How could you see all that from underneath the bed? Cheers! Quotha R

      • underbed cat says

        Jun 5, 2015 at 11:45 pm

        Quotha R……At the end of the video and interview …as happens many times, other ‘you tube’ video’s show up…..this time it was a red screen with the name Les Grossman..and another image of something across the screen…. but it was more of a still. I was curious if others saw that name and image….sounds weird but it was there for a few seconds. The name sounds familiar…..I am thinking the name of an CNN personality from a while back, no sure of the meaning. underbed cat with underbed nite lite.

        • underbed catt says

          Jun 5, 2015 at 11:48 pm

          Pamela, great interview!

  34. Mirren10 says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    That was *brilliant*. Ms Geller has not only beauty, but brains and guts. She handled that idiot beautifully.

    Robert’s interview was equally as brilliant. Thank God we have people like this, brave, true, intelligent, and gutsy. Mega kudos to you both.

  35. voegelinian says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    Watching idiots like Cuomo, and watching the abject folly dressed up as sophisticated journalistic intelligence that Geller has to suffer and fend and struggle with, is worse than getting dental surgery.

  36. voegelinian says

    Jun 5, 2015 at 8:35 pm

    What’s this “Eddie” thing about? After reading all the Eddie posts and responses from others, I still can’t figure out what the hell you guys are saying…

    • Jack Diamond says

      Jun 6, 2015 at 2:44 pm

      Going to be hard to follow because some of the posts were removed, and because english isn’t his first language. He was expressing alarm about Muslims and then explained he was an ex-Muslim, one for 41 years, who converted to Christianity and was nearly beheaded for it. He had a harrowing story about how his uncle and family and others with either ISIS or al-Nusra tried to kill and behead him as an apostate, how he made his escape by shooting and killing his uncle when a gun dropped and he grabbed it and fired. He said he escaped to the USA but returned for his pregnant wife, whom he successfully got out (of Syria? not sure where) with the help of a Congressman, and that he was nearly killed again doing so (stabbed). At least that’s how I remember it. He said he wants to tell his story and warn Americans but no one (in media) will interview him or publish him. So we were trying to help. When I first asked for more detail on what had happened to him he posted his phone number. That was the beginning of disappearing posts. I thought something might be odd going on and left the conversation.

      • Angemon says

        Jun 6, 2015 at 2:56 pm

        Jack Diamond posted:

        “When I first asked for more detail on what had happened to him he posted his phone number. That was the beginning of disappearing posts.”

        The administrators of the site are probably not OK with publicizing a personal phone number on the site.

        • Jack Diamond says

          Jun 6, 2015 at 7:28 pm

          Yes, I know. But they removed other posts including some of mine that had nothing to do with his phone number.

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