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Wife of France jihad killer: “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan.”

Jun 26, 2015 12:29 pm By Robert Spencer

Par8211815Her husband has done Ramadan in a grand fashion this year. In any case, her statement is refreshing: apparently the journos found her before the local imam could be found to say that he knew Salhi only slightly, and that the killer never came to the mosque and wasn’t a good Muslim. “Yassin Salhi: Everything we know about the suspected Grenoble attacker,” by Raziye Akkoc, James Rothwell and Henry Samuel, Telegraph, June 26, 2015 (thanks to John):

The suspect arrested in connection with the attack on a factory in south-eastern France has been named as Yassin Salhi.

On Friday morning, a car – that he is believed to have been in – drove into the Air Product factory’s main gate and reportedly threw gas canisters, causing explosions.

During the attack, two people were injured and a decapitated body was found nearby. The head is reported to have been put on the fence outside the factory.

What do we know about Yassin Salhi?

Yassin Salhi, aged 35, had previously been investigated in 2006 for radicalisation and links to the Salafist movement, Bernard Cazeneuve, the interior minister, said.

“He was investigated in 2006 for radicalisation, but [the investigation] was not renewed in 2008. He had no criminal record,” Mr Cazeneuve said.

Mr Cazeneuve, speaking from the scene in Saint-Quentin-Fallavier near Grenoble and Lyon, said Salhi was not known to be involved in previous terror attacks.

Salafism is an extremist, puritanical form of Sunni Islam often described as a mix of Saudi Arabian Wahhabism with later fundamentalist influences.

The suspect was put on a police watch list for possible radicalisation in 2006 because he attended a “very radical” mosque and prayer centres in Lyon, Roland Jacquard, of the International Observatory of terrorism, told France 24.

One prayer centre he attended in particular was known for its links to an unnamed terrorist group at the time, he said.

However, in 2008, he fell “completely off the radar”.

According to French media reports, Sali lived in the suburb of Saint Priest in Lyon. He was arrested by a fireman after the attack who, according to Le Figaro, was reportedly injured.

Europe 1 has spoken to a woman who claims she is his wife. “I have no idea what’s happened, has he been arrested?” she told the radio station.

She said her husband worked as a delivery driver.

“He went to work this morning at 7am. He does deliveries. He didn’t come back between midday and two o’clock, which is when I expect him back. My step-sister told me to look at the TV and see the news and she was crying.

“I thought my heart was going to stop beating,” she asks.

“I know my husband. We have a normal family life. He goes to work and comes home. He doesn’t pick up the phone when I call, it goes to the answer machine,” she added.

“We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan. We have three children and a normal family life,” says the wife of the suspect….

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  1. Joan_in_Houston says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Regarding the aforementioned: “the suspect” When will he be referred to as “the accused” ????? How many folks labelled “suspects” must be on the drawing board to produce one “accused” ?????

  2. miriamrove says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan. We have three children and a normal family life,” says the wife of the suspect..
    Killing and blowing up innocent people is normal part of muslims. So she is correct. m

    • Ren says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 1:50 pm

      All normal muslims are potentially abnormal, based on western standards.

      • Georg says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 3:12 pm

        Boy, between this and the Boston bomber insisting upon his religion CAIR must be wringing their hands. And why in the heck are these known psycho-Muslim nuthouses he was associated with not closed in the first place??? So when there’s a place like that it’s better to spend who knows how much in taxes to monitor each and every one of the attendees and with the risk to public safety rather than pull the chord? Just unbelievably stupid cowardly.

        Nice to see neither he or his coreligionist were on the list of 5,000 potential jihadists being monitored in France. Neither were the Hebdo jihadists. Feel safe?

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 3:29 pm

      To miriamrove- When I read crap like “We had a normal family life” I want to know how romantic the husband was in the bedroom. This is because of my theory: Islamists who behead, crucify or brutally maim/kill anyone get their sadistic sexual jollies from doing acts like these. I just don’t believe they have a normal man’s sex drive. Know of any research that backs up my theory? Take care miriamrove.

      • deja vu says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 5:25 pm

        Here’s a link which might throw some light on the subject. More evidence that this perverse ideology creates inhuman monsters.

        http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Violent-Sexual-Obsession-and-Rape-as-Expression-of-Islamic-Spirituality.htm

        • deja vu says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 5:43 pm

          From the article above which is well worth reading to the end.

          ‘Clearly, while the ultimate objective of the terrorists was to inflict death upon as many of their captives as possible, *their main focus was unquestionably indulging and satisfying their own horribly perverse sexual urges*.

          There have been innumerable books and articles written upon the subjects of sexual dysfunction within Islam, homosexuality, pedophilia, psychopathology, sexual-psychopathology and a near endless list of maladjusted behaviors, characteristic of Islam; a recitation of their observations upon what is unquestionably, exclusively and universally, a form of Islamic violence, and spiritual expression.

          Yet, while the west, its media, academia, and politically-correct leadership, endlessly debate whether hyper-violent Muslim’s are representative of Islam’s central character, there is no such debate or confusion within an Islamic world that knows exactly who these people are and what they honestly represent.

          That the Islamic world remains largely silent in the face of each, increasing outrage reveals exactly how the Muslim world feels about the behavior of their profoundly destructive brethren, and how acceptable their behavior really is within the Islamic communities including those within the west.

        • abad says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 7:13 pm

          Thank you for that link. What I find even scarier is how many white, “well-educated” western women fall for Muslim men from the Middle East. I have always written that off as their having zero-self esteem. Truly frightening.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:25 pm

          To deja vu- Thank you for your 5:25 pm post of June 26, 2015 wherein you reference the website IslamWatch.org and the article explaining that Muslim men are not responsible when they rape women, or commit other evil acts, which are not viewed as evil by the Muslim community. Unbelievable! This doctrine wants to make submissive robots for the caliph, no one else. Here is my new rally cry: “Muslims of the world unite. You have nothing to lose but the chains binding you to Satan. Leave Islam and follow Christ.”

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 5:34 pm

          Thanks for the link, Deja Vu.

          Abad wrote:

          What I find even scarier is how many white, “well-educated” western women fall for Muslim men from the Middle East. I have always written that off as their having zero-self esteem. Truly frightening.
          ………………………..

          It depends on the case, Abad.

          In many instances, you are quite correct—Muslims target women with low self-esteem, and just treat them like crap from the very beginning.

          But then there is another scenario—the “love Jihad”. These are cases where Muslim men pretend to be loving, respectful, and attentive, for just as long as the courtship lasts. This is especially common with Muslims seeking citizenship through marriage to Western women.

          This happened with Betty Mahmoud of “Not Without My Daughter” fame. She thought her boyfriend, originally from Iran, was secular and Westernized. He kept up the facade, while leaving only a handful of minor warning signs, through dating, marriage, and the birth and early childhood of their daughter. It was only when they went to Iran to visit his parents—which, ironically, Bettty herself had urged so the girl would get to know her father’s side of the family—that he dropped the mask, confiscating her passport, forcing his wife and child into Chadors, and becoming cruel and violent.

          Of course, what was understandable back in the 1970s, when most Westerners knew little about Muslims, takes much more cluelessness, or even willful denial, at this point.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 6:08 pm

          gravenimage posted:

          “But then there is another scenario—the “love Jihad”. These are cases where Muslim men pretend to be loving, respectful, and attentive, for just as long as the courtship lasts. This is especially common with Muslims seeking citizenship through marriage to Western women.”

          Back in 2009 I was called a “bigot” and a “racist” by some of my Portuguese friends because I said exactly that. It came during a discussion regarding what the (at the time) Lisbon Cardinal said regarding marriage with muslim men. The full interview is here, if you’re interested:

          http://expresso.sapo.pt/actualidade/d-jose-policarpo-diz-que-casamento-com-muculmanos-e-um-monte-de-sarilhos=f491705

          I’m too lazy to translate all of it, so feel free to use an online translator – you should be able to get the gist of it. I’ll give you the highlights: he said that marrying a muslim male was getting into a pile of trouble so big that not even allah knew the end of it. When asked about it, he said that European-educated Christian young women would go to the countries of their husbands and face quite the shock when they became subjected to their laws. He added he knew of some dramatic cases, but he wasn’t allowed to mention names.

          He also stated that dialogging with muslims was very difficult because muslims wouldn’t take criticism and instead felt they owned the whole truth – according to him, dialog only served to allow muslims to gain a foothold in a mostly Catholic country, like wolves marking their territory in a forest.

          And the kicker? He was actually in line to succeed to Benedict XVI when he renounced.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 8:32 pm

          To Angemone- I always enjoy your explanations and the ideas you advance. But you are not the first person to state that Muslims are so sensitive and they think they own the truth. Couldn’t Christians or Jews or any other group become “sensitive” and take the attitude that they own the truth? That is what I advocate.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 9:02 pm

          Those are not my words, Linde. Those are the words of a former Cardinal talking about his experience of dialogue with muslims.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 8:21 pm

          To gravenimage and deja vu- Thank you both for your insightful comments and relevant links.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 11:23 pm

          Thanks for the link, Angemon. I am sadly not surprised to hear your being falsely accused of “bigotry”, even though this is a well documented phenomenon.

          And Linde, thanks for your kind words.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 10:03 am

          gravenimage posted:

          “Thanks for the link, Angemon. I am sadly not surprised to hear your being falsely accused of “bigotry”, even though this is a well documented phenomenon.”

          I’ve grown to expect that kind of knee-jerk reaction from people in a certain political spectrum. A few years ago, before Lampedusa became mainstream, I was also accused of racism and bigotry for suggesting that the only way to stop illegal immigrants (a.k.a., criminals) from pouring into Europe was to sink their ships, even if it meant going after them on foreign national waters. Of course, no one could give me a proper explanation to why sinking ships was “racist” or why Europe needed to take in unskilled people who don’t know the language, culture or traditions. Oh well…

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 2:57 pm

          Hi angemon,
          “I was also accused of racism and bigotry for suggesting that the only way to stop illegal immigrants (a.k.a., criminals) from pouring into Europe was to sink their ships, even if it meant going after them on foreign national waters. ”
          So, you want to blow holes in ships crowded beyond capacity, obviously lacking in any PFDs or rafts, sinking those ships, likely killing many or most of the people, and you want to do this in the waters of the nation of their origin?

          Would you have the French Navy sink ships bound for Italy? The Italian Navy sink ships bound for France? How would you know, or maybe you think this should be an international operation, perhaps by NATO?

          Please do pardon me if I am speaking out of school here since I was not a part of the particulars in the thread you mention…but maybe those who accused you of racism thought you would never advocate such a murderous and gross violation of maritime traditions, decency, and law if the boat were loaded with Caucasian people, say, hypothetically, fleeing a disaster in Iceland.

          How would you react if a foreign government sank a ship full of Americans in American waters?

          “Of course, no one could give me a proper explanation to why sinking ships was “racist””
          Well, “racist” is not the first word I would choose, that would be “murderous”. The racism charge lacks hard evidence and is likely more of an argument from incredulity, being incredulous that you would suggest such actions against boat loads of white people.

          ” or why Europe needed to take in unskilled people who don’t know the language, culture or traditions. ”
          They shouldn’t. The boats should be turned back. Those boats are no match for modern Naval vessels, littoral ships, and support aircraft. They can land anywhere in North Africa if any North African nation will take them, and if not, they can go back to where they came from.

          If the people manage to make it to shore they should be rounded up, put on a barge with ample food and water, and towed back to their county of origin.

          And BTW, I also favor continued construction of more fence along our Southern border and not making it easy to cross the American Canal. We have the right to secure our borders and restrict immigration, but we need not sink to the inhumanity of our enemies in doing so.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 3:20 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “So, you want to blow holes in ships crowded beyond capacity, obviously lacking in any PFDs or rafts, sinking those ships, likely killing many or most of the people”

          Ah, I see your imagination is still getting the best of you. Do show where I said I wanted to sink ships full of people. Anything you derive from such a blatant fabrication is even more wrong than the fabrications you’ve unsuccessfully tried to peddle in the past.

          “The boats should be turned back.”

          And how would that stop them from coming back the next day, or the next week, or the next month?

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 9:15 pm

          Hi angemon,
          Well you said you wanted to sink the ships, so I asked you if you wanted to sink them loaded with people. Somehow you just happened to “forget” to copy and paste the question mark at the end of my question.

          You did not answer that question, rather asked me a question in return.

          So, maybe you want to board the ships, force everybody off, take them back to shore, and then sink the ships? All before they have even left their own territorial waters?

        • Angemon says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 9:27 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “Well you said you wanted to sink the ships, so I asked you if you wanted to sink them loaded with people.”

          Your question presupposes an unjustified assumption. In common American English, you are asking a “loaded question”.

          “You did not answer that question, rather asked me a question in return.”

          I asked you a question regarding your “strategy” of sending ships back – how does that prevent them from coming back the next day, or the next week, or the next month?

    • TH says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 7:20 pm

      Nomal family life for a muslim is not necessarily normal for the rest of humanity.

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:35 pm

      Hi miriamrove,,
      “Killing and blowing up innocent people is normal part of muslims”

      Robert Spencer dissagrees with you:
      “… many Muslims obviously don’t want to partake of in their lives because human nature being everywhere the same,…

      … people are people, they want to have a job and raise their family and live a life and they don’t want to be bothered with strapping on a suicide vest and killing people and so on.

      And so they keep a distance from Islam as it is officially codified and they live lives in accord with generally more Western values”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxcttDHIH7A
      AIFD’s Dr. Zuhdi Jasser debates Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer

      So, miriamrove, would you care to add some limiting qualifiers to your rather cavalier use of the word “Muslims” or is it safe to assume you are a brazen bigot like some other bloggers here at JW?

      • Joseph says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 10:23 pm

        @ Stardusty Psyche
        bigot (ˈbɪɡət)
        n
        1. a person who is intolerant of any ideas other than his or her own, esp on religion, politics, or race
        ______________________________________________________________

        Why don’t you look in a mirror, you WILL see a bigot.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:02 pm

          To Joseph- I really appreciate your 1:39 pm comment of today, June 28, 2015. Glad to read you pray as I do, that God’s Holy Spirit will convert all Muslims to Christ. By the way, I have heard of TS Eliot, like you, but am not too familiar with his works, and did not catch the quote used by Stardusty Psyche as authentic TS Eliot verse. But our resident poets/writing analysts Gravenimage and Philip Jihadski caught it! I love Jihad Watch, but sometimes I find myself obsessed with it!

      • gravenimage says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 3:52 am

        What grotesque calumny re miriam rove from “Stardusty Psyche”.

        He is not a “brazen bigot”—he is a brave apostate, and knows whereof he speaks.

        And note that “Stardusty Psyche” *continues* to go after miriam rove in multiple posts below. *Ugh*.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 2:04 pm

          @ Philip Jihadski
          Good catch Philip, when I read it, it flew right over my head. Should have known that this Muzlim sympathizer/apologist can’t write like that.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 2:43 pm

          Hi Graven,
          “He is not a “brazen bigot”—he is a brave apostate, and knows whereof he speaks.”
          Perhaps, which is why I did not jump to that conclusion by asking “So, miriamrove, would you care to add some limiting qualifiers?”.

          “go after miriam rove in multiple posts below. *Ugh*.”
          False, I responded specifically to each post. On the posts that used the word “Muslim” alone without any qualifiers that appeared suspiciously bigoted I simply refereed the poster to my above post, rather then asking the same question multiple times.

          PJ-“Pay attention to the fact that he stole Eliot’s words”
          False, some quotes are so obvious they do not need attribution. Of course that is Elliot.

          PJ understood immediately, Joseph not so much…

        • Champ says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 3:09 pm

          “Stealth Plagiarist” wrote:

          False, some quotes are so obvious they do not need attribution. Of course that is Elliot.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          What a pathetic excuse and defense. You’re suppose to credit Elliot, otherwise it’s known as plagiarism, you twit! “Of course”!

          And PJ caught you red-handed and he’s right: you are a THIEF! ..along with being a self-confessed LIAR, too. “Of course”!

          Nothing new here: all thieves and liars make pathetic excuses for their actions.

          Pfft. Get lost. You’re boring.

          Time to ban this clown …

          Tick, tock!!

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 12:53 am

          Hi Champ

          If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 3:51 pm

          @ Stinkstar
          Literature is not my big qualifier to live and breath here on this Earth.
          I have forgotten more technical data than you know. Electricity, machining, plumbing, hydraulics and industrial maintenance. You probably struggle to put gas in your car.
          Your qualifier? I have no idea yet.
          No Brownstar, being a “pain” does not count.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 8:08 pm

          Philip, I did indeed recognize the unattributed quote from Eliot.

          I am no fan of plagiarism; and I don’t consider his demurral that “some quotes are so obvious they do not need attribution” to be plausible at all. Champ is quite right that this is pathetic.

          You and I recognized this piece because we read—and write—poetry. There is no reason to assume that this is the case here with everyone—nor do I believe that “Stardusty Psyche” actually believes this himself.

          The reason I have not focused more on this is that most plagiarists are just insecure people seeking unearned recognition for talent and erudition—not praiseworthy, certainly.

          But “Stardusty Psyche” is also an apologist for evil, and is working here to undercut the fight against it. Most plagiarists lack such a nefarious agenda.

          But, certainly, it is another mark of his appallingly bad character.

      • Angemon says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 8:05 am

        Stardusty Psyche posted:

        “Robert Spencer dissagrees with you”

        Since when are you Robert’s spokesperson?

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:57 am

          Angemon,
          “Since when are you Robert’s spokesperson?”

          Since I watched his videos, transcribed his words, read his statements, and copied them here in full with links to original sources.

          If you can find an instance where I have misquoted Robert Spencer or quoted him out of context, fine, I would appreciate that correction.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:26 am

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “Angemon,
          “Since when are you Robert’s spokesperson?”

          Since I watched his videos, transcribed his words, read his statements, and copied them here in full with links to original sources.”

          LOL!!! Besides all the absurdities SP has given us so far, he now claims to be Robert’s spokesperson!

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 1:29 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- Good Sunday afternoon from Brooklyn, NY. I have been “Taking Care of Business” as the Bachman-Overdrive song goes. A few weeks back, you and I were having a conversation and you told me you were an atheist. But to Angemon you said you were a Fundamentalist Muslim. I am perplexed! Nonetheless, in your atheistic stance, you alluded to the God I believe in as being a fabrication of somebody’s thinking, and all believers have just bought into this fabrication. So now, under the atheistic stance, did the universe appear as “matter created from nothing”? I have heard of Professor/Dr Stephen Hawking, who advanced the theory that matter came from nothing, and he devised very long and complex equations to justify his theory that matter could spontaneously arise from nothing. Since I never studied calculus or physics, I do not understand any of it. But even if I did understand it, it would not change my conviction that humans were put on Earth to give God the glory. Yet strangely enough, those words “give God the glory” gets interpreted differently; Christians are instructed to do kind deeds and good works in God’s name, and Muslims, according to the Quran, must give God the glory by taking away humans’ free will and killing humans who will not conform to their doctrinal core beliefs. (Make the infidels convert, or pay the tax and keep their religion, or slay them if they do neither.) Very odd how the human mind can interpret language and use it to justify their goals! I will bid you adieu you with this

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 1:42 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- Good Sunday afternoon from Brooklyn, NY. I have been “Taking Care of Business” as the Bachman-Overdrive song goes. A few weeks back, you and I were having a conversation and you told me you were an atheist. But to Angemon you said you were a Fundamentalist Muslim. I am perplexed! Nonetheless, in your atheistic stance, you alluded to the God I believe in as being a fabrication of somebody’s thinking, and all believers have just bought into this fabrication. So now, under the atheistic stance, did the universe appear as “matter created from nothing”? I have heard of Professor/Dr Stephen Hawking, who advanced the theory that matter came from nothing, and he devised very long and complex equations to justify his theory that matter could spontaneously arise from nothing. Since I never studied calculus or physics, I do not understand any of it. But even if I did understand it, it would not change my conviction that humans were put on Earth to give God the glory. Yet strangely enough, those words “give God the glory” gets interpreted differently; Christians are instructed to do kind deeds and good works in God’s name, and Muslims, according to the Quran, must give God the glory by taking away humans’ free will and killing humans who will not conform to their doctrinal core beliefs. (Make the infidels convert, or pay the tax and keep their religion, or slay them if they do neither.) Very odd how the human mind can interpret language and use it to justify their goals! I will bid you adieu with this profound idea: “For if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old is passed away, behold, the new has come. All this is from God, who through Christ reconciled us to Himself and gave us the ministry of reconciliation; that is, God was in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, not counting their trespasses against them, and entrusting to us the message of reconciliation. So we are ambassadors for Christ, God making His appeal through us.” – 2 Corinthians 5, 17-20.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:05 pm

          Hi Linde,
          No, I never told Angemon, Joseph, or anybody else I was a fundamentalist Muslim.

          You are indeed confused 🙂

          Joseph asked me what my qualifier is, and I told him “fundamentalist”. In other words, I make distinctions between various Muslims.

          There are Catholic Christians who accept the words of the Pope that certain portions of the bible are allegorical. There are fundamentalist Christians who attempt to take every written word of the bible literally.

          Similarly, there are Muslims who, as Robert Spencer said “keep a distance from Islam as it is officially codified and they live lives in accord with generally more Western values”, and there are fundamentalist Muslims who take every word attributed to Muhammad in the Qur’an and Sunnah literally.

          I am an atheist so I think all of the above belief systems are nonsense, but I understand the distinctions between them.

          You asked “under the atheistic stance, did the universe appear as “matter created from nothing”?”

          Atheism in the strictest sense only means a lack of theism, or lack of belief in god. Nobody knows how or why our existence came to be. Every attempt to roll back the clock to discover our origins leads to some kind of incomprehensible quandary.

          However, the evidence we have all around us tells us the stuff of existence is eternal, since all evidence tells us it cannot be created or destroyed and it exists. Bertrand Russel claimed to be able to conceive of an infinite series with no first term, but I am dubious of that claim especially as it would apply to a physical reality as opposed to a mathematical expression, yet the evidence we have before us says that is the case.

          Hawking and many others make the rather obvious error of using a failed theory to make predictions in the regime where it is known to fail. Why, I do not know, but I do know there is no such thing as a scientific theory of something from nothing, or a universe from nothing, or an account of existence starting at t=0. Einstein worked on this problem for decades, as have many of the most brilliant minds, but we still do not have the answer…we just don’t know.

          “Make the infidels convert, or pay the tax and keep their religion, or slay them if they do neither” Yes, and you have thus demonstrated how Islam is a religion of peace…once all the infidels are murdered Muslims are instructed to be kind to each other within the construct of the global caliphate.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 3:06 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- Thank you for your prompt response. A qualifier is a filter of sorts by which something is described, made eligible, declared competent, modified, restricted, or limited. So when you said your qualifier was fundamentalist Islam, then Angemon, Joseph and I (and anyone else you mentioned) interpreted those words as the lens by which you view, estimate, consider, determine and pass sentence upon an event, idea or person, thereby causing us to conclude that because you viewed things as a fundamentalist Muslim, you were claiming fundamentslist Muslim status. Surely you can see how the confusion would result.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 3:21 pm

          Hi Linde,
          I never said “(my) qualifier was fundamentalist Islam”, but that’s Ok I did use the word “fundamentalist” in connection with “Muslim”, so that is kind of similar

          For Angemon, and Joseph “Surely you can see how the confusion would result.”

          Yes, it seems to be a clear case of confirmation bias. Those guys are so busy calling me a Muslim that they became easily confused in a way that would confirm their preexisting bias.

          The rhetorical skills or both angemon and Joseph are rather disjointed to begin with…add to that their false attribution of Muslim to me…thus confirmation bias led them to a gross misinterpretation of my clear words.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 3:45 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- To be honest, some of your wordings in some of your posts are not easy to understand. It seems to me, that you want to impress and you go for the WOW factor, more so than simple clarity. As just one example, you said to various posters: “Ditto miriamrove above”. When I am incorrect, I like to be called out, not referred to someone else.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 4:23 pm

          Hi Linde,
          In the Midwest they call them 75 cent words. Big or arcane words people use just to make themselves sound smart. I agree, that can be annoying and only tends to lower, rather than raise, your estimation of the author.

          A few of the guys here are masters of the distinction without a difference, so some intricately worded responses are needed to counter their sophistry.

          Sometimes the comments are just so crude and pathetic about all one can do is either ignore them or make a joke out of it.

          I try to keep my sentences plain an not convoluted, but I do have a tendency to go on with some long sentences sometimes. I have actually improved in that regard over the years because my boss would make comments about how long winded I was!

          The reason I used a reference in that case was that I was making the same point to many people. I could have copied and pasted the text but that seemed to be somehow a cheap shot too. Dunno, maybe I will do it that way if a similar situation arises in the future.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:05 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- I appreciate your introspection and humor! As far as being long winded, I am guilty of that! Many years ago when I worked for a public relations firm, one of the bosses took a liking to me in a professional way and bought me a thin paperback book entitled “The Elements of Style” by Strunk and White. It turned out to be one of the best books I ever read. The authors urge their readers to find “just the right words” to craft their writing, which in English is no small feat because it is the world’s richest language. Ciao for now.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:05 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “For Angemon, and Joseph “Surely you can see how the confusion would result.”

          Yes, it seems to be a clear case of confirmation bias. Those guys are so busy calling me a Muslim that they became easily confused in a way that would confirm their preexisting bias.

          The rhetorical skills or both angemon and Joseph are rather disjointed to begin with…add to that their false attribution of Muslim to me…thus confirmation bias led them to a gross misinterpretation of my clear words.”

          Where did I exactly made any comment regarding the sentence you’re discussing with Linde?

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 7:26 pm

          Hi Angemon,
          If you didn’t, then apologies for not verifying the primary source.

          I followed Linde, but if she has you confused with somebody else I am sure it was just a little mix up.

          I am sure she did not mean to sully your good name with a false attribution to you of a false characterization of me.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 7:50 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “If you didn’t, then apologies for not verifying the primary source.”

          Don’t worry – I expected that from you. After all, you’re the same mind that told us ahamadi are moderates – fact-checking was never your forte.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 10:42 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- You are correct. I do not wish to sully, misquote, or misinterpret anyone. This is a free speech site. I will make mistakes, but not on purpose. Have a good night.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:03 pm

          Linde Barrera posted:

          “then Angemon, Joseph and I (and anyone else you mentioned) interpreted those words”

          Huh, just a kindly reminder: I made no comment on that particular statement by SP.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 10:26 pm

          To Angemon- I apologize if I offended you by mentioning you in my comment to Stardusty Psyche. I said what I said because of the “qualifier” and “fundamentalist Muslim” terms. I thought that you, Joseph and I were interpreting Stardusty Psyche’s words in such a way as to a certain intent, but such was not so.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 29, 2015 at 4:49 am

          Linde Barrera posted:

          “To Angemon- I apologize if I offended you by mentioning you in my comment to Stardusty Psyche.”

          Don’t worry, Linde – no offense taken.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 29, 2015 at 8:56 am

          To Angemon- Thank you. I do enjoy reading all the comments here, (this is a free speech venue after all) and I do my best to write with clear intent and a relevant message. But now and then, I don’t fully comprehend all that the writer wants to convey. Have a lovely day.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:38 pm

          @ Brownstar_ You said
          Brother Joseph
          (I asked you)“What is your qualifier?”,
          (you said)Fundamentalist
          As in fundamentalist Muslim.

          YOUR WORDS NOT MINE

          fundamentalist
          Also found in: Financial, Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
          fun·da·men·tal·ism (fŭn′də-mĕn′tl-ĭz′əm)
          n.
          1. A usually religious movement or point of view characterized by a return to fundamental principles, by rigid adherence to those principles, and often by intolerance of other views and opposition to secularism.

          You lose! ! ! We know who you are! ! ! YOU SLIPPED UP! ! !

        • voegelinian says

          Jun 30, 2015 at 12:52 pm

          “The Elements of Style” by Strunk and White. It turned out to be one of the best books I ever read. The authors urge their readers to find “just the right words” to craft their writing, which in English is no small feat because it is the world’s richest language.

          And “fundamentalist” is precisely the wrong word by which to denote the enemy who is trying to kill us (or who is lying to us about the killing).

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 28, 2015 at 1:00 am

        Hi Joseph,
        “Literature is not my big qualifier to live and breath here on this Earth.”

        Ok, then I am pleased to have shared a small bit of one of my favorites with you. I hope you experienced the intriguing considerations that passage continually evokes for me.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 1:28 am

          @ stinkhole
          No; Eliot shared.
          You tried to plagiarize by not giving credit.
          I don’t care how well something is known.

          plagiarize (ˈpleɪdʒəˌraɪz) or plagiarise
          vb
          1. (Literary & Literary Critical Terms) to appropriate (ideas, passages, etc) from (another work or author)
          ˈplagiaˌrizer ˈplagiaˌriser n

          AND you still have not answered my question. What is your qualifier?

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:46 am

          Brother Joseph
          “What is your qualifier?”,

          Fundamentalist

          As in fundamentalist Muslim.

          The qualifier “fundamentalist” differentiates me from the religious bigots who post here at JW.

          So many posters here simply say “Muslim” lumping all Muslims together as is typical of a bigoted ignorant stupid ass, which so many posters here manifestly are.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:31 am

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “So many posters here simply say “Muslim” lumping all Muslims together as is typical of a bigoted ignorant stupid ass, which so many posters here manifestly are.”

          And once again, SP fails to explain why and how muslims should be divided.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 12:29 pm

          To Angemon- Hello from Brooklyn, NY. I think I realize why non-Muslims tend not to distinguish between Muslims, as Stardusty Psyche admonishes. It is because “Islam is Islam”. We perceive the creed defines the individual. This may not be correct, but we are always being told how there cannot be compromise. Like the old adage: “Does the suit make the man, or does the man make the suit?” ???? Angemon, your writings have been, in my opinion, truthful, concise, and with style; I love what you write and the way you deliver! Don’t worry about ‘tude.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:40 am

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “So many posters here simply say “Muslim” lumping all Muslims together as is typical of a bigoted ignorant stupid ass, which so many posters here manifestly are.”

          Including you, SP – twice if you try to have two sets of standards.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 11:57 am

          @ Brownstar_ You said
          Brother Joseph
          (I asked you)“What is your qualifier?”,
          (you said)Fundamentalist
          As in fundamentalist Muslim.

          The qualifier “fundamentalist” differentiates me from the religious bigots who post here at JW.
          _______________________________________________________

          #1) I am NOT your “brother” and don’t you forget that. I have NOTHING in common with you. I believe that our precious JESUS CHRIST suffered and died and then rose from the dead, not only for my sins but for the sins of the whole world. Because of this I and others who believe WILL go to heaven to be with him.
          You believe in Satan who is thinly veiled as Allah and will go to hell

          #2) What took you so long to admit you a Muzlim? Are you that ashamed that you had to hide it for so long?

          #3) Try reading the Bible to learn the REAL truth, open your eyes, give your life to JESUS and believe. You will save your soul. The human mind can not fathom eternity.

          #4) Don’t try and backpedal and say you were only kidding about saying your a Muzloom. If you admitted it before, I didn’t catch it, I have other things that need my attention.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm

          To Joseph- Thank you for witnessing to Stardusty Psyche about our Lord Jesus. A few weeks back, Stardusty Psyche wrote to me in a conversation we had that he was an atheist. Now he tells you he is a fundamentalist Muslim. What is a person’s motivation for doing that? What is he/she really claiming? Be well Joseph.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 1:39 pm

          @ Linde Barrera
          Yes I read the same thing about him/her being an atheist. But now we know.
          I will be praying that he/she finds his/her way to JESUS CHRIST. Without HIM we all are lost for no man by his own merit can enter heaven.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 1:48 pm

          To Stardusty Psyche- My 1:29 pm post of today, June 28, 2015 was cut off erroneously. My 1:42 pm post to you of June 28 is complete. I do not intend to be long winded!

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:20 pm

          Brother Joseph,
          ” I am NOT your “brother” and don’t you forget that. I have NOTHING in common with you.”

          You are a human being, as am I. In my view that is sufficient to consider you my brother. I would never wish any harm or suffering to come to you and I wish you all the best in your life and your future.

          I never said I am a fundamentalist Muslim. If you can provide the quote that is the basis for your misunderstanding I will unpack it for you and point out your error.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:45 pm

          Stardusty Psyche says
          June 28, 2015 at 2:46 am
          (you said)Brother Joseph
          (I asked)“What is your qualifier?”,
          (you replied)
          Fundamentalist

          As in fundamentalist Muslim.
          _________________________________________________

          And now the back pedaling begins.
          I am done with you on this point. YOU LOSE! !

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:56 pm

          Brother Joseph,
          excerpt from response to Linde:

          ****************************
          Hi Linde,
          No, I never told Angemon, Joseph, or anybody else I was a fundamentalist Muslim.

          You are indeed confused 🙂

          Joseph asked me what my qualifier is, and I told him “fundamentalist”. In other words, I make distinctions between various Muslims.

          There are Catholic Christians who accept the words of the Pope that certain portions of the bible are allegorical. There are fundamentalist Christians who attempt to take every written word of the bible literally.

          Similarly, there are Muslims who, as Robert Spencer said “keep a distance from Islam as it is officially codified and they live lives in accord with generally more Western values”, and there are fundamentalist Muslims who take every word attributed to Muhammad in the Qur’an and Sunnah literally.

          I am an atheist so I think all of the above belief systems are nonsense, but I understand the distinctions between them.

          ****************************

          This goes back to my suggestion to a number of posters that they should either put a limiting qualifier before their otherwise very general statements against simply “Muslims”, or else be considered bigots by virtue of lumping all Muslims together in their negative remarks.

          I think you somehow started using the word “qualifier” to mean “qualification” as in a degree or experience or reading or something that would qualify a person to have a valuable opinion.

          You are conflating the usages and forms of “qualify”.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 4:47 pm

          Hi Angemon,
          “And once again, SP fails to explain why and how muslims should be divided.”

          Are you really this much of an ignorant bigoted ass or do you just like to have fun pretending to be an ignorant bigoted ass?

          We have such an amazing brain trust of scholars here, let’s ask them.

          Google comes back with 1.57 billion as the present world population of Muslims.

          How should we divide them, or are all 1.57 billion of them functionally equivalent?

          Well, we could use sex, age, race, nationality…or we could consider the sect they identify with such as Sunni, Shia, etc…

          Most germane to our topics here, though, would be a fuzzier yet critically important notion of degree of fundamentalism, that is, how closely does the individual believe in the entirety of the texts as literal instructions to be carried out in the present.

          Perhaps the most dangerous kind of Muslim would be a male in his late teens to middle age who is of a sect and mindset to take the many violent teachings of Muhammad as literal instructions to be acted upon here and now.

          Among the innocent Muslims are women who were betrothed in early childhood, live under sharia and constant threat of violence, are uneducated, have little contact with the outside world, and virtually no ability to act independently.

          One can consider Western Muslims who have the opportunity to speak out against fundamentalist violence but fail to do so, and self identifying Muslims who simply have a superficial or buffet style approach to religion and are primarily focused on their daily lives.

          Robert Spencer draws distinctions between sub-groups of Muslims this way:
          … many Muslims obviously don’t want to partake of in their lives because human nature being everywhere the same,…

          … people are people, they want to have a job and raise their family and live a life and they don’t want to be bothered with strapping on a suicide vest and killing people and so on.

          …And so they keep a distance from Islam as it is officially codified and they live lives in accord with generally more Western values

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxcttDHIH7A
          AIFD’s Dr. Zuhdi Jasser debates Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer

          Why make divisions? What an incredibly stupid question. Professor Psyche will leave that as an exercise for his students.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 5:44 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “Are you really this much of an ignorant bigoted ass or do you just like to have fun pretending to be an ignorant bigoted ass?”

          The question should be whether you just like to call people ignorant bigoted asses or are you being paid to do so.

          “How should we divide them, or are all 1.57 billion of them functionally equivalent?

          Well, we could use sex, age, race, nationality…or we could consider the sect they identify with such as Sunni, Shia, etc…”

          Hold that thought. it will come back to bite you in the ass. Meanwhile, answer this: do any muslims in the divisions you propose read different qurans, pray to a different god, are instructed to pray less than 5 times per day, etc? Or do they not call themselves muslims?

          “Most germane to our topics here, though, would be a fuzzier yet critically important notion of degree of fundamentalism, that is, how closely does the individual believe in the entirety of the texts as literal instructions to be carried out in the present.”

          Which is something you can’t quantify from any one’s self-designation as a muslim, therefore it’s completely worthless as far as divisions go. “Fundamental” muslims claim that they are muslims. “Moderate” muslims claim that they are muslims. But you’re saying that we need to distinguish between people who call themselves muslims based on something you can’t verify or quantify.

          “Among the innocent Muslims are women who were betrothed in early childhood, live under sharia and constant threat of violence, are uneducated, have little contact with the outside world, and virtually no ability to act independently.”

          Exactly what is an “innocent” muslim?

          “One can consider Western Muslims who have the opportunity to speak out against fundamentalist violence but fail to do so, and self identifying Muslims who simply have a superficial or buffet style approach to religion and are primarily focused on their daily lives.”

          Keywords being “self identifying Muslims“.

          “Robert Spencer draws distinctions between sub-groups of Muslims this way:
          … many Muslims obviously don’t want to partake of in their lives because human nature being everywhere the same,…

          … people are people, they want to have a job and raise their family and live a life and they don’t want to be bothered with strapping on a suicide vest and killing people and so on.

          …And so they keep a distance from Islam as it is officially codified and they live lives in accord with generally more Western values

          AIFD’s Dr. Zuhdi Jasser debates Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer
          ”

          Notice the lack of “sex, age, race, nationality… or sect” in the example you’re quoting. Also, I don’t see any quote of him actually saying he’s drawing distinctions.

          “Why make divisions? What an incredibly stupid question.”

          The fact that not only you got so upset but also failed to provide a proper answer to such a simple question says otherwise. In the islamic state there are muslims from all over the world, from both sexes, from different age groups and races. The islamic state is sunni, but Iran, who is mainly shia, shares the same goal of restoring the caliphate and treating non-muslims as second-class semi slaves, and preaches the same hatred of the non-muslim world and of “heretic” muslims as the islamic state. Heck, the jihadi killed in the coffee house in Sydney was a shia who converted to sunni islam. So all – not one, not most, all – of the arbitrary divisions you asserted we should be making are worthless and of no help identifying potential jihadis, and therefore there’s no reason to use them in the first place.

          I would expect that someone who claims to be an atheist and whose alleged mission is to raise the level of debate in JW to realize something as simple as that. Now, a muslim apologist trying to silence critics of islam, on the other hand…

          (I’ll let you figure out the rest)

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 7:20 pm

          Hi Angemon,
          “The question should be whether you just like to call people ignorant bigoted asses or are you being paid to do so.”
          Hey, that would be great if I could get paid for this public service work I am performing here at JW!!! Unfortunately, no checks have come yet.

          “Exactly what is an “innocent” muslim? ”
          One example already provided, anyone who is not an ignorant bigoted ass can identify more.

          “Notice the lack of “sex, age, race, nationality… or sect” in the example you’re quoting.”
          So what? Those are factors one can potentially employ in making divisions but not every quote will employ them, duh.

          ” I don’t see any quote of him (Robert Spencer) actually saying he’s drawing distinctions. ”
          Stupid statement, that is what the quote does, draw distinctions between Muslims who do or do not follow the texts to violence.

          “(I’ll let you figure out the rest)”
          I figured out that you ask asinine questions, make stupid statements, and then you don’t even finish your own sentence.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 7:47 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “One example already provided, anyone who is not an ignorant bigoted ass can identify more.”

          I asked you the definition of “innocent muslim”. But hey, if you can’t define it then you can’t define. You should stick to what you actually know, regardless of how little that is. I won’t think you’re an ignorant bigoted ass anymore than I already do.

          “So what? Those are factors one can potentially employ in making divisions but not every quote will employ them, duh.”

          Because they’re worthless, like I explained. You still haven’t given us one good distinction that we should be making, despite your insistence.

          “Stupid statement, that is what the quote does”

          Nope. There’s nothing on that quote about making distinctions. But hey, we already know you have issues with verifying primary sources, by your own words.

          Here, let me refresh your memory:

          “Robert Spencer draws distinctions between sub-groups of Muslims this way”

          Nowhere on that quote Robert says he’s making distinctions.

          “I figured out that you ask asinine questions, make stupid statements, and then you don’t even finish your own sentence.”

          C’mon, you can’t even come up with fresh insults? God, you’re even more limited than you appear at first glance. I’m disappointed with you, SP, very disappointed. Tsk, tsk…

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:11 pm

          “Stardusty Psyche” wrote, among reams of other obfuscating crap:

          You are conflating the usages and forms of “qualify”.
          …………………………

          Nothing but obfuscation and bullsh*ttery.

          Many here have focused on the first part of this troll’s sobriquet—”Star” or “Stardusty”, but I believe the salient part is “Psyche”.

          “Psych”, in modern parlance, means this

          From the Urban Dictionary:

          Psych
          …………..

          To retract your previous statement, in an attempt to fool the person you’re talking/chatting to. Also see sike…

          5. A slang term used to defame a person after they have been persuaded to believe a false truth.

          The modern “Mindfuck” could be considered to convey similar meaning, as “Psych” may be interpreted as “psychologically fucking” with a person.

          6. Gotcha; shortened form of the phrase, “I just psyched you out!”

          7. The word often used as an exclamation which serves to tell what you just said was false or wrong.

          used to retract a lie

          used to fake, fool, or deceive someone in a funny joking sarcastic way

          means “just kidding” or “not!”

          8. (slang) To say something and not mean it or mean the opposite. (see sike) Messing with someone’s mind.

          http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Psych

          Mirriam-Webster:

          3 a : to make psychologically uneasy : intimidate,

          http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/psych

          “Messing with someone’s mind” is *exactly* what “Stardusty Psyche” has been doing here.

          He now has people arguing semantics with him, and has completely distracted from the appalling story above.

          This has been his aim from the beginning: to distract, to obfuscate, and to insult and denigrate those opposing the sanguinary horror of Islam.

          And why? Given his posting history both here and elsewhere, it may be to actually enable Islam, to posit false moral equivalence, or just to be a wiseass.

          Ultimately, it hardly matters—”Stardusty Psyche” is no ally of ours.

        • Champ says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:35 pm

          Ultimately, it hardly matters—”Stardusty Psyche” is no ally of ours.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Exactly, Graven!

          Great comment, too.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 7:51 pm

          Hi Angemon,
          “He now has people arguing semantics with him, and has completely distracted from the appalling story above.”
          He said after a long post with endless dissections of my moniker.

          Joseph got his words all wrapped around the axle. If you don’t like overemphasis on semantics tell your buddies to read more carefully and while you are at it save your fingers and skip the distinctions without a difference, red herrings, straw men, and extended minutia (see above) you are so fond of.

          If you want something of more substance I will repost something here:

          Stardusty Psyche says

          June 26, 2015 at 9:33 pm

          Hi Westman,
          Quite likely indeed.

          Of course, she might be lying, we don’t really have enough information. The wife of a French jihadi was featured in Dabiq:
          Because of his loyalty to the Khilāfah, the
          mujāhid Abū Basīr al-Ifrīqī (Amedy Coulibaly –
          rahimahullāh) arranged to send his wife Umm
          Basīr al-Muhājirah to its lands prior to his
          shahādah in the blessed operations of Paris.
          After her safe arrival, Dābiq had the opportunity
          to present some questions to the sister and
          she answered with beneficial responses.
          http://media.clarionproject.org/files/islamic-state/islamic-state-dabiq-magazine-issue-7-from-hypocrisy-to-apostasy.pdf

          In the interview she was very proud of her (dead) husband and her hijra to IS.

          Yet, most Muslims are women or children who likely have very little control over their own lives or of the men who are their “guardians”

          Her husband quite possibly kept his preparations entirely secret from his wife.

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 8:05 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “Hi Angemon,
          “He now has people arguing semantics with him, and has completely distracted from the appalling story above.”
          He said after a long post with endless dissections of my moniker.
          ”

          Today is simply not your day, eh? And you’re advising others to “read more carefully“? Tsk, tsk…

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 8:11 pm

          Angemon says

          June 28, 2015 at 8:05 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “Hi Angemon,
          “He now has people arguing semantics with him, and has completely distracted from the appalling story above.”
          He said after a long post with endless dissections of my moniker.”

          Today is simply not your day, eh? And you’re advising others to “read more carefully“? Tsk, tsk…

          True, graven’s bullshit is so much like your bullshit it does seem to run together after a while, my mistake.

          Correction
          Hi Graven
          “He now has people arguing semantics with him, and has completely distracted from the appalling story above.”
          He said after a long post with endless dissections of my moniker.”

        • Angemon says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 8:16 pm

          Stardusty Psyche posted:

          “True, graven’s bullshit is so much like your bullshit it does seem to run together after a while, my mistake.”

          No need to apologize, SP – that’s the standard we’ve learned to expect from you. The day you start resorting to rational discourse based on actual verified and verifiable facts is the day I start worrying about you. Until then, have fun throwing insults around, like a monkey with its feces, and touting your own horn. I doubt anyone here will think any less of you than they already do.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 29, 2015 at 12:21 pm

          @ Stardusty Puke
          You should stop using your big words all the time. I did not get confused and my shit wrapped around my axle(I like the term by the way) YOU read what qualifier means. This is what you replied
          Stardusty Psyche says
          June 28, 2015 at 2:46 am
          (you said)Brother Joseph
          (I asked)“What is your qualifier?”,
          (you replied)
          Fundamentalist

          As in fundamentalist Muslim.
          ___________________________________
          So from YOU and ONLY YOU fundamentalist Muslim came forth on this thread.
          EAT it! ! You typed it! ! You live with it! !
          I knew you were going to wiggle out of this one.
          You are a professional leftist liar.
          _____________________________
          Qualifier
          Also found in: Encyclopedia, Wikipedia.
          qual·i·fi·er (kwŏl′ə-fī′ər)
          n.
          1. One that qualifies, especially one that has or fulfills all appropriate qualifications, as for a position, office, or task.
          2. Grammar A word or phrase that qualifies, limits, or modifies the meaning of another word or phrase.

        • Champ says

          Jun 29, 2015 at 12:49 pm

          Angemon wrote:

          “No need to apologize, SP – that’s the standard we’ve learned to expect from you. The day you start resorting to rational discourse based on actual verified and verifiable facts is the day I start worrying about you. Until then, have fun throwing insults around, like a monkey with its feces, and touting your own horn. I doubt anyone here will think any less of you than they already do.”

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          I agree, word-4-word, Angemon!

          Funny and sooo true! 😀

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 30, 2015 at 10:18 am

          Thanks, Champ.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 30, 2015 at 2:00 pm

          Dear Linde—please take another look at “Stardusty Psyche”. He may seem superficially plausible at first glance, but if you look at his posting history, he is *not* a real Anti-Jihadist.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jun 30, 2015 at 3:22 pm

          To gravenimage- Hello deary. Always nice to hear from you. As to Stardusty Psyche, I think that he came to this website with the intention of airing his opinions, because JW is a “free speech” venue, and thank God for that. I asked him if he was a Muslim of middle eastern descent. He said he was an atheist (and I forget honestly) and something about living in and being in North America, with no ethnicity from the middle east. I don’t really understand what motivates him. He does strike me as being anti- Islam regarding the killing of innocent humans, but doesn’t always make himself clear. I asked him why he would tell Muslims not to vote, because to me, voting is an absolute right, and he gave me an answer that I didn’t really understand because, to my recall, he meant he would tell Muslims not to vote in their countries, but I didn’t know most Muslim countries have voting, for the most part. (I know a few do, but it seems like window dressing on their part. Correct me if I am wrong.) So, I’m done on that topic! I will leave you with this good quote: “The only entitlement I expect from my government is freedom.” From: The Political Insider. And if you have a moment, look at my Facebook picture. This way you will recognize me when you come to NY and I treat you to Starbucks!

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 9:12 pm

          Hi, Linde. You wrote:

          As to Stardusty Psyche, I think that he came to this website with the intention of airing his opinions, because JW is a “free speech” venue, and thank God for that.
          ……………………………………….

          I’m sure he did come here to air his opinions—the question is whether this opinions are actually Anti-Jihadist. I never called for his banning—one can question a poster’s positions without calling for his being banned.

          More:

          I asked him if he was a Muslim of middle eastern descent. He said he was an atheist (and I forget honestly) and something about living in and being in North America, with no ethnicity from the middle east.
          ……………………………………….

          Linde, one can be a Muslim apologist without necessarily being Muslim. One finds this, indeed, with useful idiots in the West all the time.

          More:

          I don’t really understand what motivates him. He does strike me as being anti- Islam regarding the killing of innocent humans, but doesn’t always make himself clear.
          ……………………………………….

          One notable point is that he actually seldom condemns Jihad murder at all. Tellingly, on this thread he excoriates brave apostate Miriam Rove multiple times, without saying anything negative about the Jihad killer or his wife in France.

          More:

          I asked him why he would tell Muslims not to vote, because to me, voting is an absolute right, and he gave me an answer that I didn’t really understand because, to my recall, he meant he would tell Muslims not to vote in their countries, but I didn’t know most Muslim countries have voting, for the most part. (I know a few do, but it seems like window dressing on their part. Correct me if I am wrong.) So, I’m done on that topic!
          ……………………………………….

          I missed that post from “Stardusty Psyche”. but it does not surprise me.

          And yes, you are quite right—”democracy” in Dar-al-Islam, where it exists at all, is mostly window dressing, with elections that are either rigged, reduced to a few “acceptable” candidates and issues, or allowed only on minor matters.

          More:

          I will leave you with this good quote: “The only entitlement I expect from my government is freedom.” From: The Political Insider. And if you have a moment, look at my Facebook picture. This way you will recognize me when you come to NY and I treat you to Starbucks!
          ……………………………………….

          Yes—an excellent quote. Only rational people want this from their governments—freedom, and the safeguards and protection of those freedoms.

          Just about the opposite of what pious Muslims are looking for…

          As regards “Stardusty Psyche” in general, I don’t expect you to take my word for his not being an honest actor here, nor the word of any other poster—although I’m sure you’ve noticed that he is no longer well regarded by many Counter-Jihadists here.

          But I would ask you to keep an eye on his posts—he is more subtle than many trolls, but it isn’t often long before he lets the mask slip.

          I did try to find your Facebook page, but had no luck—I just found a couple of other Linde Barreras. I do hope I can take you up on that Brooklyn Starbucks someday.

          Happy Independence Day!

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 10:55 pm

          Hi Linde,

          About the voting thing…I know sarcasm is not your thing so I will try to be serious about it…

          There was an article a while back wherein some Imam in Europe was urging his followers not to vote. That always kind of cracks me up, like that is going to bother anybody if fundamentalist Muslims do not participate in European elections.

          I, in one of my attempts at humor, mockingly agreed wholeheartedly with the Imam, saying, yes, please do not vote!

          Of course, all citizens who qualify have every right to vote. I would never advocate any kind of denial of voting rights to qualified citizens. It is just one of those things that kind of cracks me up, like, yes we agree at last, you don’t want to vote, I don’t want any candidate you would vote for to receive your vote, so, it’s all agreed then, stay home and don’t vote!

          Just consider Bradford West and George Galloway and you will get the idea of what I would prefer did not occur.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jul 5, 2015 at 12:35 am

          To Stardusty Psyche- Good of you to clarify your position on voting. I hope you can see how I would misunderstand or misinterpret your writing without that explanation.

        • Linde Barrera says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 11:58 pm

          To gravenimage- Good to hear from you! I know you didn’t suggest that Stardusty Psyche be banned, and I certainly didn’t imply that you did. I don’t really “get” SP, but I look to have a little fun with him where appropriate, while being truthful and sincere in my comments at all times. I am surprised that you found several people with my name but not me in a big navy hat. Thank you for taking the time to look. Finally, if you can get a moment, go to the article on the imam who wants to turn empty churches into mosques. I commented that the imam should turn into a sex slave or a male dancer in a club. And I have no regret writing this, even though some would say that that comment is not appropriate from a Christian lady, and I am a Christian lady. On that same thread, someone called Haya wrote the usual islamist “Our population numbers will overtake you soon” tripe. Please, please read my response to her. I consider it my best so far! Take care dear graven. Enjoy these summer days.

  3. Gin says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 12:59 pm

    She should have said. We are normal Muslims who r psychopaths.n have no conscious they are doing satsns work.

  4. Gary says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    “We are normal Muslims”

    …….Blinded by their father.

    The father of all lies, who comes to steal, kill, and destroy.
    (John 10:10)

  5. Angemon says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:16 pm

    We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan.

    And jihad, apparently…

  6. gravenimage says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:36 pm

    Wife of France jihad killer: “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan.”
    …………………………………

    As miriam rove notes, “killing and blowing up innocent people is normal part of muslims”. It is indeed.

    In fact, what could be more Islamic than bombing and decapitating Infidels? (Besides keeping Ramadan, that is…)

    And does she really believe at this point that emphasizing that he is a pious Muslim is a saving grace? Surely even a lot of “interfaith” types must realize by now that this is problematic.

    More:

    Her husband has done Ramadan in a grand fashion this year.
    …………………………………

    He sure has. In fact, acts of Jihad *soar* during Ramadan.

    This is not true of any other faith. Does violence spike during Easter? Passover? Holi? Of course not, nor during any other holiday of any other mainstream religion—just with Islam.

    More:

    In any case, her statement is refreshing: apparently the journos found her before the local imam could be found to say that he knew Salhi only slightly, and that the killer never came to the mosque and wasn’t a good Muslim.
    …………………………………

    Oh, it’s probably still coming…

    More:

    On Friday morning, a car – that he is believed to have been in – drove into the Air Product factory’s main gate and reportedly threw gas canisters, causing explosions.

    During the attack, two people were injured and a decapitated body was found nearby. The head is reported to have been put on the fence outside the factory.
    …………………………………

    Bombings and beheading—both fine ways to celebrate Ramadan…

    More:

    The suspect was put on a police watch list for possible radicalisation in 2006 because he attended a “very radical” mosque and prayer centres in Lyon, Roland Jacquard, of the International Observatory of terrorism, told France 24.

    One prayer centre he attended in particular was known for its links to an unnamed terrorist group at the time, he said…

    However, in 2008, he fell “completely off the radar”.
    …………………………………

    How many more ticking time bombs like Yassin Salhi are there? Who else attended that Mosque? Have they “fallen off the radar” as well? Is the Mosque still operating? What about the Imam? Will anyone think to even ask any of these questions?

    More:

    “I thought my heart was going to stop beating,” she asks.
    …………………………………

    Notice that she *doesn’t actually condemn the attack*. She also expresses no concern for the victims. This is not at all unusual.

    More:

    “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan. We have three children…
    …………………………………

    What are the children being taught, in this oh-so-observant household? Will they want to follow in dear old dad’s footsteps in a few years?

    • Georg says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 3:18 pm

      “What are the children being taught, in this oh-so-observant household?”

      Something “shocking” I’m sure.

      • particolor says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 6:15 am

        I think they get to watch old “Chucky” movies ?

    • harpertwo says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 4:04 pm

      Of course there is nothing abnormal about this in a Muslim’s mind, as she said we’re normal Muslims, so the only thing new about this story is the victim’s name. Muslims have been doing this for almost fourteen hundred years. There are three Islamic books the Qur’an is only one, if you’re a good Muslim you must be prepared to kill the Infidels or any type of Jihad that furthers the Islamic cause. Violent Jihad is only one way to spread Islam, in America it’s Stealth Jihad (Secret) which has been so successful they don’t have to be secretive about it, they have their man in the White Mosque I mean House. This Maniac in question here I’m sure was doing a form or forms of Jihad long before this. I wonder if the pro Muslim Vermin will make it another case of work place violence. Remember Screaming Ala-Akbar Muslim Maniac Major Nidal Hussan who murdered 13 of his fellow soldiers and injured 30 more, the last I heard he still sits in prison and makes demands and gets special privileges. I think finally they changed his crimes from work place violence.

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 8:41 pm

        Hi harpertwo,
        “Of course there is nothing abnormal about this in a Muslim’s mind,”

        Ditto miriamrove above.

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm

      “As miriam rove notes, “killing and blowing up innocent people is normal part of muslims”. It is indeed.”

      Ditto miriamrove above.

      • ermin says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 7:33 am

        F*** you , if you didn’t kill them you’ll undermine their country abuse , bully manipulate & make them suffer in every other way possible until you get the chance to kill them again F*** you

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 3:06 am

          Hi ermin,
          “F*** you , if you didn’t kill them you’ll undermine their country abuse , bully manipulate & make them suffer in every other way possible until you get the chance to kill them again F*** you”

          Thank you for elevating the general level of commentary at JW

  7. Kevin says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Any link between the Grenoble attack and the Tunisian?

    Both on the same day, and both with probably ISIS links.

    Ramadan is a blast!

    • Georg says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 3:21 pm

      It’s been just about a year since they declared a calipHATE, so it may be there way of having a blast.

  8. mortimer says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    Koran 47.04 When ye meet the Unbelievers smite at their necks.

    (That has nothing to do with Islam?)

    Koran 8.55, 9.5, 95.5, 9.111. Infidels are worst beasts and lowest creatures and must be killed wherever they are found.

    (That has nothing to do with Islam?)

    Tabari IX:69 Killing disbelievers (kufaar) is a small matter to us.

    (That has nothing to do with Islam?)

    Answer: “Islam is the only major world religion today that is cited by both state and non-state actors to legitimize beheadings. And two major aspects of decapitation in an Islamic context should be noted: first, the practice has both Qur’anic and historical sanction. It is not the product of a fabricated tradition. Second, in contradiction to the assertions of apologists, both Muslim and non-Muslim, these beheadings are not simply a brutal method of drawing attention to the Islamist political agenda and weakening opponents’ will to fight. Zarqawi and other Islamists who practice decapitation believe that God has ordained them to obliterate their enemies in this manner. Islam is, for this determined minority of Muslims, anything but a “religion of peace.” It is, rather, a religion of the sword with the blade forever at the throat of the unbeliever.”-Timothy Furnish, PhD

    • Georg says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 3:26 pm

      “Islam is the only major world religion today that is cited by both state and non-state actors to legitimize beheadings.”

      Ought it concern the world that the only difference between the IS and KSA flag is a sword?

  9. mortimer says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    SUDDEN JIHAD SYNDROME

    “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan and then we do jihad. We have three children and a normal family life and from time to time experience Sudden Jihad Syndrome.”

    • Georg says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 3:31 pm

      Sudden Jihad Syndrome = material submission to Islamic orthodoxy.

      • Stardusty Psyche says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 8:47 pm

        Hi Georg,
        Indeed, adherence to the texts of Islam leads directly to jihad..as well as fascism, homophobia, pedosexuality, polygamy, misogyny, slavery, homicide, suicide, conquest, and on and on…

  10. Bob Crosby says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    So your normal Muslims. That means you will kill people who draw cartoons, you will behead people who don’t bow to you religion, you will subjugate women and sell them as slaves or stone them because they were raped by you savage men who cant control themselves? Guess your right, you are Normal Muslims!!!!

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      Hi Bob Crosby,
      Ditto miriamrove above.

  11. France is finished says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    “Deradicalisation” is a word the media like using to infer that only a select group believe in violence. This is a blatant way of hiding the fact that the whole religion needs to be “deradicalised” which in turn means that every single muslim potentially needs to be “deradicalised”. If they believe in the Quran, they therefore believe in Quran 4:34, they believe in Quran 3:110, they believe in Quran 8:12 etc etc…. so really until France faces up to the fact that 10% of their population should not be in France at all and should all be exported back to Tunisia etc then these problems will persist. This is only the beginning…except the politicians will tell us it is all ok due to their “de-radicalisation” efforts.

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:51 pm

      Hi France,
      Ditto miriamrove above

  12. Keith says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    … 21st Century Nazi-ism in a Western world run by appeasing, frightened Neville Chamberlains… notice they haven’t messed with Putin’s territory?

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:56 pm

      Hi Keith,
      “in a Western world run by appeasing,”
      …other than our fine president who has a booming IS peace plan…

      There is a peace of jihadi over here, and another peace over there…boom, boom, boom.

  13. Jaladhi says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    Yes, lady we know that “normal” Muslims are killers!! They celebrate Ramadan and go out to kill an infidel!

  14. fido says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan. We have three children and a normal family life,” says the wife of the suspect….”

    Yeah, that’s the problem…too damn many “normal mooslimes” chopping off heads and sticking them on fences…while they’re out for their morning deliveries.

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 8:58 pm

      Hi fido,
      Ditto miriamrove above.

  15. abad says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 7:06 pm

    The harsh reality is this:

    PRIOR to 9-11 happening, Muslim violence during Ramadan in the Middle East was always at its very worst. Granted, things have not changed with the exception of these Peaceful Muslims(TM) now carrying out their criminal actions in the western world during Ramadan. The wife of this barbarian at least spoke the truth: A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim. There is no such thing as “Muslim extremist”, “Muslim terrorist” (a bit redundant), ad nauseum.

    France has a very serious problem to deal with – they made a HUGE mistake in allowing Muslim immigrants into their nation – a mistake just like the UK, Sweden, and the rest of what is now known as Eurabia. World War 3 is here, and the western world politicians need to clean up their act and recognize these Muslim immigrants for what they are – destroyers of their host nations.

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 9:02 pm

      “A Muslim is a Muslim is a Muslim.”
      abad is a flaming brazen bigot

      I doubt you have the intelligence to receive an education but Robert Spencer delivers one to you nevertheless”
      … many Muslims obviously don’t want to partake of in their lives because human nature being everywhere the same,…

      … people are people, they want to have a job and raise their family and live a life and they don’t want to be bothered with strapping on a suicide vest and killing people and so on.

      And so they keep a distance from Islam as it is officially codified and they live lives in accord with generally more Western values

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxcttDHIH7A
      AIFD’s Dr. Zuhdi Jasser debates Jihad Watch’s Robert Spencer

      • Joseph says

        Jun 26, 2015 at 9:51 pm

        @ Stardusty Psyche

        If you go any farther left you will be going in a circle. You are kind of like that guy with one foot nailed to the floor. You will walk 100 miles and get nowhere.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 26, 2015 at 11:06 pm

          Brother Joseph,
          “If you go any farther left you will be going in a circle.”
          Continually turning right leads to the same problem 🙂

          “You are kind of like that guy with one foot nailed to the floor. You will walk 100 miles and get nowhere.”
          Well, that’s one way to move a floor 100 miles!!!

        • Joseph says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 12:52 am

          Conservatives can only go so far. Leftists and liberals virtually have no end to their decadence.

          dec·a·dence (dĕk′ə-dəns, dĭ-kād′ns)
          n.
          1. A process, condition, or period of deterioration or decline, as in morals or art; decay.
          ____________________________
          Well, that’s one way to move a floor 100 miles!!!

          No…you walk around in a circle, you don’t get anywhere.

        • Stardusty Psyche says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 1:47 am

          Brother Joseph,
          Everywhere is somewhere,
          if one walks in a circle then one has been all the places on the circle, not “not anywhere”

          We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 8:17 pm

          Excellent catch, PJ.

        • Joseph says

          Jun 27, 2015 at 10:45 pm

          @ Philip Jihadski
          I guess I know what I’ll be reading soon. At least some good might come out of this T.S. Eliot fiasco.
          I have also quoted Martin Niemöller’s (1892–1984) “then they came for me”(so has R.S.) which I believe is more recognizable than Eliot, but I gave him credit for it(so has R.S.). Therefore my personal opinion is that Stinkstar is a liar and a thief, besides being a Muzlum.

        • voegelinian says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:13 am

          The more serious failure on Stardusty’s part is not his typing out verbatim a line from T.S. Eliot’s Four Quartets without attribution or quote marks, but his profound antipathy to the poetry therein — a failure he only would aggravate by denying his antipathy.

        • gravenimage says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 6:24 pm

          You are quite right, Voeg—the context in which “Stardusty Psyche” uses Eliot’s words shows that he either completely misunderstands them, or—more likely—is deliberately misusing them.

      • duh_swami says

        Jun 27, 2015 at 6:32 am

        Starchild…Jasser is a fraud…The ‘pious’ are all on the same page. Jihad is an obligation and duty to Allah…except for the blind and infirm. Jihad comes in different strengths, not everyone is suitable mentally or physically to engage in physical jihad, but they give emotional and when possible financial support of those who do, quietly supporting jihad is also jihad….The pious cannot escape this duty, and will die hypocrites if they do. There are no hypocrites in Allah’s paradise…

        • voegelinian says

          Jun 28, 2015 at 2:24 am

          duh swami, quite a few in the Counter-Jihad are fooled by Zuhdi Jasser. Even apparently Frank Gaffney, which particularly aggrieves.

  16. Andy says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    France has surrendered…

  17. Westman says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 8:48 pm

    “I know my husband”. Would you suppose this is one of the most inaccurate statements in Islam?

    • Stardusty Psyche says

      Jun 26, 2015 at 9:33 pm

      Hi Westman,
      Quit likely indeed.

      Of course, she might be lying, we don’t really have enough information. The wife of a French jihadi was featured in Dabiq:
      Because of his loyalty to the Khilāfah, the
      mujāhid Abū Basīr al-Ifrīqī (Amedy Coulibaly –
      rahimahullāh) arranged to send his wife Umm
      Basīr al-Muhājirah to its lands prior to his
      shahādah in the blessed operations of Paris.
      After her safe arrival, Dābiq had the opportunity
      to present some questions to the sister and
      she answered with beneficial responses.
      http://media.clarionproject.org/files/islamic-state/islamic-state-dabiq-magazine-issue-7-from-hypocrisy-to-apostasy.pdf

      In the interview she was very proud of her (dead) husband and her hijra to IS.

      Yet, most Muslims are women or children who likely have very little control over their own lives or of the men who are their “guardians”

      Her husband quite possibly kept his preparations entirely secret from his wife.

  18. More Ham Ed says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 10:10 pm

    “…never came to the mosque and wasn’t a good Muslim.” – is there a good ko ‘ran and a bad ko ‘ran?

  19. Wario says

    Jun 26, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Normal till you start to take Quran verbatim and serious.

    A normal Muslim is a dormant bot, activated by jihady verses

  20. Edward Cline says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 4:25 am

    So, she “does Ramadama Ding Don.” Does she also do the Twist? The Hokey Pokey? The Monster Mash? Is this woman suffering from a brain clot? She and her family are “normal”? If she and her family are “normal,” then France is in big trouble. Well, we already knew that.

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 27, 2015 at 11:59 pm

      To Edward Cline- I loved your 4:25 am comment about the wife of the disgusting Islamist beheaded in France. Some of the articles I read here at Jihad Watch really make me feel like I am in the “Twilight Zone” or “Outer Limits” tv shows and I can’t shut the box off! I ordered and received your book from Amazon Prime, “The Black Stone” printed by Patrick Henry Press, and I read your foreword from Williamsburg, VA 2014. I will start the book tomorrow, Sun. June 28. I am so looking forward to it!

    • Linde Barrera says

      Jun 28, 2015 at 12:02 am

      Correction: disgusting Islamist BEHEADER, not beheaded. My apologies.

  21. duh_swami says

    Jun 27, 2015 at 6:12 am

    You been crazy so long you think it’s normal…That is what happens to psychotic people when their psychosis becomes their life style. Islam creates acute psychosis in the pious, which normal for them. So the wife is right, they are normal, but they really don’t want you to look too closely as to what that ‘normal’, actually consists of…

  22. voegelinian says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 2:36 am

    By the way, it really helps when nearly everyone in here refers to “Stardusty Psyche” by a variety of permutations (some faintly clever, others pretty dumb), when I’ve had occasion to want to zero in on all his comments by searching for his name on a page.

  23. infidel_Indian says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 10:40 am

    History is repeating itself. first it happened in Indian subcontinent then in Middle east. then it will happen in Europe and lastly in North America.

  24. Peggy says

    Jun 28, 2015 at 11:51 pm

    “We are normal Muslims. We do Ramadan. We have three children and a normal family life,” says the wife of the suspect….”
    —————————————–
    Straight from the horse’s mouth. Normal means possessed and homicidal. And our leaders try to tell us that Islam is a religion of peace. This woman is telling them what it means to be a normal Muslim and they still don’t want to hear it.

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