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After Chattanooga, Franklin Graham says: “Shut borders to Muslims”

Jul 24, 2015 9:06 am By Ralph Sidway

Following the jihad attack at the Muhammad Art Exhibit and Contest in Garland Texas this past May, Rev. Franklin Graham criticized the entire idea behind it, concluding,

The organizers of the cartoon contest in Garland, Texas, had the constitutional right to do what they did—but just because we have the ‘right’ to do something doesn’t make it right!… I disagree with Islam. But just because I disagree, I’m not going to mock them or resort to violence. We need to show respect to people of other races and beliefs. What happened to civility and respect?

At the time, several of us made very strong cases as to why — when it comes to criticizing Islam — exercising our constitutional rights is essential, and that it has as much to do with the freedoms enshrined in the U.S. Constitution as it does with the supremacist, militant nature of Islam and the servitude under which non-Muslims live in Islamic societies.

For example, William Kilpatrick made the powerful case that resisting sharia blasphemy laws (which, in essence, is what the “Draw Muhammad” event was about) is key to inspiring “moderate Muslims” to do some resisting of their own against the jihadist strain of Islam:

If the moderate Muslim was inclined to resist the radicals, he will be less likely to do so if he looks around and notices that no one else is resisting, except for a handful of people whom the media has labeled as “haters.” Why should he stick his neck out? If the supposed guardians of free speech who are relatively safe from retaliation nevertheless bow to Islamic law, then prudence suggests that he do the same. The constant kowtowing to Islamic demands has the result of putting increased pressure on the moderate Muslim to do some kowtowing of his own. He won’t necessarily join forces with the jihadists, but neither will he do much to oppose them.

Franklin Graham’s objections completely miss such a simple observation.

In an article of my own at the time, I did a quick survey of Muslim persecution of Christians in the Islamic world, concluding, “The Muslim predisposition towards jihad means ‘no cartoons required’.”  Christians are hounded, persecuted and slaughtered in Muslim countries simply for wearing a cross, simply for being a Christian.

In that same article, I quoted Ryan Mauro of The Clarion Project, who said,

Whether or not one agrees with holding the event is irrelevant as to why this attack happened. It happened because of the desire to find a target; not because of the target itself.

Robert Spencer put it this way in his gracious response to Rev. Graham:

It is good to show civility and respect to all people as a matter of course. Our cartoon contest was an attempt to stand for the freedom of speech, which is the cornerstone and foundation of any free society, with the conviction that the principles of civility and respect are far less endangered by cartoonists than by those who demand civility and respect at the point of a gun. If we establish the principle that surrender is the best response to violent threats and intimidation, we will be ensuring that increasing numbers of Christians, and the Church in general, will face a future in which civility and respect will be stripped from them, and their subjugation obtained at knife- or gunpoint.

Our cartoon contest, then, as paradoxical as it may seem, was one small effort to try to ensure a future in which not just Muslims, but Christians and other non-Muslims also, can live with full dignity as human beings – not in fear, submission, and slavery. But the reaction to the contest has demonstrated that so many people are willing to submit, so eager to give the bully what he wants, so comfortable in slavery, that while the gentlemanly Franklin Graham may not live to experience it himself, his Christian descendants are likely to find living as Christians a great deal more uncomfortable, and difficult, and even life-threatening than he ever has.

“To ensure a future in which [we all] can live with full dignity as human beings.”  That’s what we’re all about here, those of us engaged in this epochal fight.

While we’re very glad to see Rev. Franklin Graham issue such a strong statement in the wake of the Chattanooga jihad attack, and are grateful for all allies from all quarters in this fight for freedom, we certainly urge everyone to a higher level of consistency and tenacity in resisting the threat of Islam and the encroachment of sharia restrictions on free speech.

The time for faux protective measures and denying the truth about Islam is long past. The time has come for tough, common-sense solutions to our national security and the threat from Muslim extremists.

“After Chattanooga, Franklin Graham Says: ‘Shut Borders to Muslims,'” by Enza Ferreri, July 22, 2015:

On 16 July 2015 Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, a Muslim man, opened fire at two different military centres six miles apart (the first a military recruitment station and the second a Navy and Marines reserve facility) in Chattanooga, Tennessee, wounding two service members and a police officer and killing four other service members immediately. One of the wounded servicemen died from his injuries two days later. The gunman was killed by police at the site of the second shooting.

The killer was a 24-year-old Muslim immigrant from Kuwait granted US citizenship, a college graduate with a degree in electrical engineering.

The authorities’ head scratching in search of a motive for the killing is slightly ridiculous, if the situation were not tragic.

Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez is dead now but has left vital clues in a blog he ran on his Islamic beliefs. The blog has only two posts, both posted just three days before his horrific crime. The Daily Mail reports:

The first post was entitled ‘A Prison Called Dunya,’ Abdulazeez refers to prisoner who is told he would be given a test that would either take him out of his earthly prison – or send him into a more restrictive environment.

According to the website [The Daily Beast], he wrote: ‘I would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide and stay patient with their studies, only giving time for the other things around to keep themselves focused on passing the exam.

He added: ‘This life is that test, designed to separate the inhabitants of Paradise from the inhabitants of Hellfire.’

The second post is called ‘Understanding Islam: The Story of the Three Blind Men.’ It suggests Abdulazeez felt his fellow Muslims had a ‘certain understanding of Islam and keep a tunnel vision of what we think Islam is.

He also wrote:

Brothers and sisters don’t be fooled by your desires, this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to Allah may pass you by.

As measures of terrorism prevention, six different governors of US states have authorised their respective National Guard soldiers to be armed for both deterrence and self-protection, while the Pentagon recommends “closing the blinds” (“that won’t stop bullets, but may help cut down on the air conditioning bill”, is The Examiner‘s sarcastic comment) and other “new security measures” such as increased surveillance.

These are not real, effective preventative measures, and nobody genuinely believes they are.

Much more sense makes what the American evangelist Franklin Graham proposed on his Facebook page, namely completely closing the US borders to Islam:

Four innocent Marines (United States Marine Corps) killed and three others wounded in #‎Chattanooga yesterday including a policeman and another Marine–all by a radical Muslim whose family was allowed to immigrate to this country from Kuwait. We are under attack by Muslims at home and abroad. We should stop all immigration of Muslims to the U.S. until this threat with Islam has been settled. Every Muslim that comes into this country has the potential to be radicalized–and they do their killing to honor their religion and Muhammad. During World War 2, we didn’t allow Japanese to immigrate to America, nor did we allow Germans. Why are we allowing Muslims now? Do you agree? Let your Congressman know that we’ve got to put a stop to this and close the flood gates. Pray for the men and women who serve this nation in uniform, that God would protect them.

Islam divides the world into two parts: Dar al-Islam (Arabic for “house of Islam”) and Dar al-Harb (in Arabic, “house of war”). The latter is the whole part of the world where Islam has not yet triumphed and Islamic law is not in force. For Islam, there must be war initiated by Muslims against all those peoples and in all those countries who have not yet submitted to Islam until they have done so.

What about all those peaceful and law-abiding Muslims living in the West? They cannot do anything to stop their extreme co-religionists, who not only are more determined but also have the Quran and Islamic jurisprudence on their side.

As Theodore Dalrymple put it, a minority can have much more power than a majority, on which it can exercise tyranny:

[A] handful of fanatics can easily have a much more significant social effect than a large number of peaceful citizens. There is more to fear in one terrorist than to celebrate in 99 well-integrated immigrants.

Yes, and there are many more reasons to stop Muslim immigration than to allow it. 

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  1. jihad3tracker says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:15 am

    For readers here who are not Old Geezers like Yours Truly —- Franklin Graham is the son of the late Rev Dr. Billy Graham, who for at least 30 years was a giant of Christian evangelism, beloved in American, and the “counsel” of at least one president on spiritual matters.

    His son Franklin now has most of the respect which his father took to his grave. So, I am at least thankful for his partial awakening to Islam’s essential danger to America, even if he still does not fully comprehend its relentless love of death. But, hey, give the guy some time to fully wise up . . .

    • wildjew says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 9:42 am

      I don’t think he is going to change. It is part and parcel of his faith and his worldview. I watch him from time to time interviewed on news channels. Graham tells the audience, he “loves” Muslims and he of course is praying for them to find Jesus Christ. Millions of Christians believe they are obligated to pray for evil / savages. I am thankful I am Jewish and am under no such obligation to “not resist evil” and to pray for evil doers and savages. That is part of the basis for Graham’s condemnation of R. Spencer and P. Geller, in my opinion. Then I suspect there is the element of fear and in Trumps case, he is compromised by business dealings in jihad supporting states like Qatar.

      Personally, I probably would not take part in a Draw Muhammad contest because it is not my style. I prefer to confront devout Muslims as Spencer and Geller have done for many years with reasoned arguments to the best of my limited knowledge. If Graham and Trump were respectful that is what they would say publicly (“it is not something I would care to do”) and then privately write Pamela, “I think you made your point.” If that is what they truly believed. But I suspect something else is going on. Donald Trump and Franklin Graham made no mention of the wonderful work these two activists are doing. Is it because they haven’t any idea what Spencer and Geller have been doing all these years? Is it because they don’t know all the great books Spencer has written or the ones Pamela has written and co-authored?

      • Papa Whiskey says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 10:33 am

        Personally, I did take part in the Draw Muhammad contest because it is my style. Confronting devout Muslims with reasoned arguments is a waste of time and is not what Spencer and Geller are doing in any case. Instead, they are sounding a tocsin — what Thomas Jefferson called a “fire bell in the night” — in a heroic effort to wake up a sleeping non-Muslim world to its dire peril. Four tools are needed to do this — exposure, analysis, criticism, and mockery — and the Draw Muhammad contest used them all. One other tool is needed to forestall Islam’s inevitable bullying response: a .45 automatic. That stopped it in Garland — stopped it dead.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 10:57 am

          Hello again P.W. — Since you brought up the subject of essential tools for oppositional strategy, I will mention that this weeked I will be buying a third can opener for the coming adventures with Allah’s Army.

          I already have a hi-cap mag .40 + a centerfire revolver in my bug out bag, but for the roughly half mile dash I will have to make to my friends and their car, I am going to add a Ruger 10/22 takedown with 25 round factory issue clips.

          Yes, rimfire stopping power is way low in comparison, but this is the gun I will have in a five minute run to suppress any Badboys I meet who want to keep me from getting to my destination.

          I hope to avoid engaging completely, but the police in my mid-size city will likely already have been nationalized or VERY busy, so a 911 “Please escort me” request is not going to be granted . . .

          BTW, I want to scope the Ruger with a 1x – to 3x variable or 3X fixed. Any strong recommendations as to manufacturer, from your own experience ?

        • wildjew says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 11:58 am

          I stand corrected. Confronting devout Muslims (Mr. Spencer has debated a few publicly) is one of the things they do. “Sounding an alarm bell or signal” may be (probably is) more important than debating Muslims publicly. I have watched Mr. Spencer debate Muslim clerics. I have watched videos on this website. I see / hear Pamela Geller especially on Fox News and on Sean Hannity’s radio program confronting Muslims quite a lot. Are you certain it is something they do not do and that it is a waste of time?

        • Papa Whiskey says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 3:47 pm

          Wildjew:

          Confronting devout Muslims with reasoned arguments on an individual basis falls under the old aphorism about the inadvisability to trying to teach a pig to sing: it wastes your time and annoys the pig. But when Spencer or Geller confront a devout Muslim with reasoned arguments publicly, they are trying to reach not the Muslim but the forum’s audience. Hence, such activity falls under the rubric of “exposure,” and it can reach many people who wouldn’t necessary pick up a book or access a blog.

        • Papa Whiskey says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 4:00 pm

          Jihad3tracker:

          Depends on what you can afford. If you have to go “cheap charlie,” Tasco is fine. If you can spend more, Leupold is the best. Instead of a conventional scope, consider an Aimpoint or an EoTech optic, either of which is quicker to pick up at speed. I strongly recommend something that hits harder than a .22 — a 12-gauge shotgun or a .223 carbine, for example.

          Hope your friends haven’t taken a powder by the time you’ve finished that 880-yard dash.

        • wildjew says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 4:36 pm

          Papa Whiskey, every discussion I have had with Muslims over the years on an individual basis is public because these Internet forums (WordPress, Disqus, etc.) are all public forums. Obviously not as many people will read or see them as happens on this site, on the radio and television but they are not individual in the sense that they are private. I have no Muslim friends or acquaintances.

          I do believe these debates or discussions fall under the rubric of “exposure,” no matter where they occur.

          Above you wrote, ‘…they are sounding a tocsin — what Thomas Jefferson called a “fire bell in the night” — in a heroic effort to wake up a sleeping non-Muslim world to its dire peril’.

          In the forward to one of Spencer’s older books, David Pryce-Jones wrote: “Elsewhere I have called for the Muslim equivalent of an Andrei Sakharov and a Solzhenitsyn, brave and challenging thinkers who showed their fellow Russians how to escape from the dead end of absolutism, to democratize and modernize.

          “Robert Spencer doesn’t see much prospect of such an eventuality. He tends to believe that the West has so lost confidence in itself and its spiritual, cultural and political values that it is defenseless before violence, in which case absolutism will triumph and the Muslim fantasy of superiority will come true. In its own lively style, this book puts down a strong and significant marker to what lies ahead, as Islam and the rest of the world strive to come to terms.

          -David Pryce-Jones

          “Islam Unveiled: Disturbing Questions about the World’s Fastest-Growing Faith” by Robert Spencer (Forward)

          I think it is imperative to sound the alarm though I likewise tend to believe the West (the U.S.) will have so lost confidence in itself and its spiritual, cultural and political values that it will be increasingly defenseless before violence. Not all, but many Americans are losing confidence. What can explain millions of conservatives circling the wagons around George W. Bush for seven years post 9/11/2001 as he repeatedly misled the public about Islam and he betrayed Israel, our only reliable ally in the region? What explains the election and the re-election of Barack Obama even as genocidal Iranian mullahs and their people shout “Death to America” / “Death to Israel”?

          I can see a day where Islamic supremacism combined with a nuclear-armed Iran / Islam will unleash such violence, millions or billions could conceivably be slaughtered in the years to come.

        • jihad3tracker says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 4:41 pm

          P.W. — no “reply” option below so I will do it here: Thanks for the Aimpoint and EoTech suggestions. My mind is not made up about optics yet — traditional tube versus quick-acquire. A chat with my brick and mortar retail gun shop is coming for me this weekend.

          And, YES, Leupold is my top choice . . I’ve owned 3-9 Vari-X and a 12X for my SAKO Forester in 22-250. WAY BACK IN 1974 when that fixed power scope cost $99.95 . . .Even adjusted into constant dollars, such a price makes me shed tears ! ! !

          I will consider the .223 carbine also — I am not set in concrete on a 22 rimfire. Do you have a fave make and model, with a price of around $700 unscoped ?

          BTW, LAST post by me on firearms . . . I am not going to turn this forum into that off-topic subject.

        • wildjew says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 4:51 pm

          Pappa Wiskey:

          Your analogy to Jefferson’s “fire bell in the night” warning….

          Jefferson historian Josesh J. Ellis wrote: In a justifiably famous letter to John Holmes, a congressman from Massachusetts, Jefferson claimed that the Missouri Question had aroused him “like a fire bell in the night, awakened and filled me with terror.” No man on earth wished an end to slavery more than he did, Jefferson insisted, and banishing slavery from the entire United States “would not cost me a second thought, if, in that way a general emancipation and expatriation could be affected,” meaning a removal of the freed black population back to Africa or some location in the Caribbean…..

          Biographers of Jefferson and historians of the period have frequently misread this letter, thinking that the “fire bell in the night” for Jefferson was slavery, when in fact it was the act of talking publicly about slavery. In our search for an answer to the question about Jefferson’s failure to prohibit the expansion of slavery into the Louisiana Territory, it seems clear that a big part of the answer is that Jefferson believed that doing so would provoke a debate akin to the debate over the Missouri Question, a destructive debate that might lead to civil war. He wished to extend the Virginia code of silence over the entire nation.

          American Creation by Joseph J. Ellis

      • jihad3tracker says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 10:43 am

        Hello wildjew — Thanks for your remarks on evangelism’s hope for conversion of people who “have not accepted the Savior” . . . as they often put it. I am what might be called a “Big Mind” guy, not a person of denominational faith, so for me there is no religious dog in this fight, so to speak. I should have made the point of my post more explicitly : Graham’s followers and listeners now at least have an major imprimatur that their Kahuna-in-Chief wants Muslims to stop coming here.

        As to Trump — I hesitate to open the floodgate of commentary — but IMHO he is just having a pleasant diversion from counting his money for the thousandth time, and attempting to hustle up some evanescent self respect. This guy has the maturity of dweeb friends we all had in 7th grade, who would have considered giving out the home phone number of a school’s principal during an assembly as hilarious fun. WTF does he need to learning ANYTHING FACTUAL regarding Islam, being, like Graham, insulated by fame and comfort from everyday-workin’ Joe’ & Jane problems ?

        • wildjew says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 12:24 pm

          “Graham’s followers and listeners now at least have an major imprimatur that their Kahuna-in-Chief wants Muslims to stop coming here….”

          jihad3tracker, I agree with you. That is an important step.

        • harridan says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 2:50 pm

          re: trump… jihadtracker, don’t discount the impact of the “guy has the maturity of dweeb friends we all had in 7th grade”….surely you see that this country has been purposely dumbed down since the 60’s (by those same radicals who now hold our country hostage to their kumbaya world view) and this is the result, why else would trump resonate w/the high polling numbers he has? i enjoy his righteous aggressive plain speak pushback, i revel witnessing how he handles EVERYONE…. he speaks HIS truth, which typically aligns w/mine… i’m DONE w/being disappointed in rinos…. trump serves an important role at this point in time under the regime of the 60’s radicals and the lead up to the next presidential campaign..NONE of the topics would have been “debated” from the defense by the stinkin’ libs… he and carli fiorina are a breath of fresh air, they speak the words of logic and reason ….. IT’S OVER KIDS, time for a slap down and for the grown ups to clean up your mess…

        • Kepha says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 11:32 pm

          jihad3tracker, wildjew, and other non-Evangelical friends:

          Please recognize that we Evangelicals have no Pope, even though the media is quick to anoint for us. I respect the Grahams, father and son, but they didn’t die for my sins after thousands of years of Old Testament prophecy, and they didn’t conquer death on the third day on my behalf, either.

          Believe me, if we were as humble and easily led as many liberal reporters think we are, we wouldn’t be split into a thousand denominations and countless independent congregations; there would probably be no theological liberalism in the Christian world at all (three hundred years ago, all Protestants were “Evangelicals”); and the eighteenth century Unitarians of New England would’ve been given no foothold. We’re actually very ornery, factious, prone to wander and stubborn–may God in his infinite mercy forgive us. If you really want to know what we’re like, read the narrative portions of the Old Testament. Do that, and you might realize that all this talk of being “chosen people” (elect, in our parlance) isn’t a boast, but a confession that God is very merciful to people who don’t deserve it.

          Long ago, there was a book entitled _A Shepherd Looks at the 23d Psalm__by a guy who had been a sheepherder before becoming a minister of the Gospel. He points out what stupid, ornery, and ridiculous animals sheep are–and how they’re a lot like groups of people.

          I love Muslims, too. Maybe not in an abstract mass, but there are kids I’ve taught, neighbors, merchants from whom I’ve bought things, and others whom I honestly and truly like as people, and for whom I pray that their eyes will be opened to a better way.
          And as more cracks appear in Islam (the defection from Islam of a large number of Iranian-born or Iranian-descended Americans; the former guest workers in Europe who re-planted indigenous churches among the Kabyles and replaced some of the Syriacs and Armenians of Southeast Anatolia with ex-Muslim Evangelicals), I will continue to trust God’s mercy. If God could take a stupid, straying sheep lost in the follies of mid-20th century secularism like Uncle Kepha and show him mercy, then He can do the same with someone lost in that spiritual waste called Islam.

        • shams78 says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 11:57 pm

          Mind telling us why Protestants try to convert other Christians (Orthodox and Catholic) if you think they are “re-planted indigenous churches” and “replaced” these Orthodox and Catholic Christians?

          Go to an Eastern Europe, ask them what the Protestant missionaries roaming around trying to convert them are saying to them about their beliefs and you will know why they don’t like them.

          And there is this happening in Iraq right now to Yazidis.

          http ://www.jihadwatch. org/2015/07/proselytizing-for-and-whitewashing-islam-in-teen-vogue/comment-page-1#comment-1272227

          http ://www.voanews. com/content/yazidis-say-they-are-begin-targeted-for-christian-conversion/2872137.html

          http ://www.basnews. com/en/news/2015/06/08/yazidis-unhappy-with-christian-missionaries/

          https ://www.linkedin. com/pulse/christian-missionaries-encouraging-yazidi-kurds-give

          [i]Islamic State Drives Yazidis to Christ[/i]

          http ://www.christianaid. org/News/2015/mir20150205.aspx

      • ploome says

        Jul 25, 2015 at 7:28 pm

        some religions are based on faith

        you cannot talk someone out of an irrational belief

      • Greyhound Fancier says

        Jul 25, 2015 at 11:47 pm

        I pray for the Mohammedans’ mass conversion daily. That does not in any way mean that I don’t support hard war against the terrorists.

        My opinion is that the Mohammedans will drive us to turning Mecca and Medina to glass. Better that than to keep giving them hope by fighting a war by a thousand pinpricks. These views are not incompatible — beat them into submission first, and then make them behave.

    • Ebins says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 10:46 am

      Um, unless I missed some really important news in the past couple days, Bill Graham isn’t dead. He’s in his 90’s. His wife is dead.

      • jihad3tracker says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 12:19 pm

        Thanks, Ebins, for a correction. I was too lazy to look up his bio. But that reminds me of an old joke.

        Retired fellows are chatting during a game of cards at the senior citizens’ recreational center. One asks, “Mrs. McGillicuddy has not been here in a long time. Did she die?” Another player replies, “I hope so . . . they buried her!”

        • harridan says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 2:53 pm

          lol, i BURST out laughing….

        • Jack says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 3:02 pm

          LOL that’s funny{}:-)

    • Jack says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      I’ve been warning people about this Fascist Ideology for over fifteen years, when their numbers are sufficient they become highly political, and with the many ABC Muslim organizations in America it’s not if but when they will become the dominant force. With almost 1400 years of ISIS like atrocities committed against the innocent only fools would believe they will act differently in America. Most Americans never heard of Stealth Jihad much less understand it; it’s just another way to further Islam which is a requirement of all Muslims, this is done in secret, or silence such as becoming school teachers getting elected into the government of their host countries. Today in America we see the results of this form of Jihad, ever playing the victim while advancing their religion and the fools who Muslims consider the Infidels/Kafirs are lapping it up. Imams, Ayatollahs Etc.have given speeches on what must be done to make Islam the worlds religion: 1. Kill all the Jews, 2. Take Jerusalem. 3. Wipe out Christianity by any means necessary.

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 9:47 pm

      Jihad: Rev. Billy Graham is alive tho’ mostly an invalid. Perhaps you were thinking of his late wife, Ruth, who went to her reward a few years ago.

  2. duh swami says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:37 am

    If the moderate Muslim was inclined to resist the radicals,

    I wish these kuffar would stop fooling around, this is no time for jokes…

    If the Quran really is the very, holy-holy-holy words of Allah, good for all times, then unquestioned belief, and obedience is mandatory.
    The Quran can be divided into two sections…information only, and the other, ‘calls to action’, Allah want’s the pious to ‘do’ something, and often give directions on how to do it….All the war verses are calls to action…jihad…and Allah expects all Mahoundians to participate. Those that don’t have a lot of explaining to do to him when they arrive at the pearly gate…

    • Gary says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 9:42 am

      Correction. The Quran IS and will always HAVE one theme:

      A Lie from the pit of Hell.

      Muhammad was a liar. Who listened to his father: The father of all lies.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 2:00 pm

        “Everything in Islam depends on the word of this one man.
        The man who said it was all right to lie for his cause.
        Think about it.”
        http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6829-one-man-s-word-is-all-islam-has

      • Edith Weberbauer says

        Jul 26, 2015 at 7:45 pm

        Gary says”Muhammad was a liar. Who listened to his father.”
        Don’t you think that should be “Who listened to his master” since Muhammad was the slave of Allah?

    • The vilest of creatures says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 8:56 pm

      Swami,

      You have been commenting on JW for some time so you are probably about as informed as anybody here. (excepting Robert, but I doubt he responds to comments)

      I keep running into apologists that keep citing a supposed ‘REPORT’ that the FBI did that says Non-Muslims did 90% of the terrorist attacks between 1995 and 2005 in the US. Even says there was far more “Jewish” terror than Muslim. I personally think it’s all BS, (I don’t recall any terrorist attacks by Jews at all, let alone more than Muslim). Anyway, here is the ‘REPORT’ as cited by something called ‘globalresearch.com’ .

      If you (or anybody else that reads this comment) can shed any light on the authenticity of the ‘REPORT’, I would appreciate you sharing this with me.

      Thanks

      TVOC

      • Angemon says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 9:01 pm

        If that’s the report that I’m thinking about, then they considered that, for example, a PETA member throwing a bucket of blood on someone wearing fur while shouting “FUR IS MURDER!!!” qualifies as terrorism.

        • The vilest of creatures says

          Jul 24, 2015 at 11:47 pm

          I meant to put the link in but stupidly forgot……Here it is….

          http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

          Is this what you were thinking of?

        • Angemon says

          Jul 25, 2015 at 2:58 pm

          Probably. That list includes vandalism and destruction of property (which are handy blanket terms and could include, for example, graffiti on a wall) by groups such as Earth Liberation Front or Animal Liberation Front as being terrorists attacks – throwing a bucket of blood onto a fur coat would probably qualify under one of those. Heck, there are bank robberies on that list – it’s definitely using a loose and stretched definition of “terrorism”

  3. Gary says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:37 am

    I’m so sick and tired of hearing muslims MISREPRESENT God! It’s time for some truth regarding our Heavenly Father:

    “But God commends his own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)

    “For God didn’t send his Son into the world to judge the world, but that the world should be saved through him.” (John 3:17)

    “Tear your heart, and not your garments, and turn to Yahweh, your God; for He is gracious and merciful, slow to anger, and abundant in loving kindness, and relents from sending calamity.” (Joel 2:13)

    “This is the message which we have heard from him and announce to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
    If we say that we have fellowship with him and walk in the darkness, we lie, and don’t tell the truth.
    But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus Christ, his Son, cleanses us from all sin.
    If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us the sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    If we say that we haven’t sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.” (1John 1: 1-10)

    • Ralph Sidway says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 10:48 am

      And they MISREPRESENT Jesus just as badly. Think of all the Muslim billboard and bus ads claiming “Jesus is a Muslim.” Paul had something to say about that:

      “But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted—you may well put up with it!” (2 Cor 11:3-4)

      But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be anathema!” (Gal 1:6-8)

      Islam preaches a “different Jesus,” a “different spirit,” a “different gospel” — a VERY different god. Christians have got to stand firm on this point.

      • Gary says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 11:28 am

        AMEN!

    • Jack says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 4:12 pm

      Jesus said those who reject me. reject The Father. Islam is an anti-Christ religion because they believe Jesus was just a man, a prophet, fitting the Apostle John’s definition of antichrists..

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 9:52 pm

      Gary: The muslims aren’t misrepresenting [their] god, which is satan.

      At first, after 9/11, we kind and open minded Americans all said, ‘Different religion, same God’. But then we started to learn. And once we did we had our eyes opened.

      Our God is all you’ve quoted from sacred Scripture. Theirs is the opposite.

    • Kepha says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 11:35 pm

      Amen.

  4. Jaladhi says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:40 am

    Muslims do not integrate with the natives anywhere they go in the world. The West is simply fooling itself and it’s citizens by hoping that the Muslims immigrants will integrate and live peacefully. This is such a foolish supposition – just look at the behavior of Muslims where they have lived for 1000 years or more – India, Bosnia, Africa. They do not respect the the native religions – Hinduism, Christianity, Buddhism, etc and are alwys rioting and killing non-Muslims. Now why would you invite followers of such religion unless you have suicide wish which the West seems to embarked on!

    Time now to stop all Muslim immigration. Period. And those who don’t live peacefully and don’t respect out laws need to emigrate to Islamic hell holes. There are 57 of them – what a wonderful choice instaed of running to infidel lands!!

    • Gary says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 10:51 am

      As I sit here now an old man reading with disbelief concerning the way our politicians are betraying us I wonder if Islamists are masters of hypnosis! In England our leaders treat this murderous religion with kid gloves! Nuke the sources of it, send special forces to irradicate any even suspect remnants or kick out these treacherous bastar.. and put in power someone that will!

  5. Michael Copeland says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Does USA need more of these?
    “..if you can’t travel, kill somebody where you are.
    Kill somebody in uniform, preferably in the military
    or law enforcement, but just kill somebody.”
    Islamic State message
    http://pamelageller.com/2015/07/fbi-chief-the-islamic-state-is-recruiting-in-all-50-states

  6. Michael Copeland says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:54 am

    Daniel Greenfield suggests increasing the penalties:
    If Mohammod Youssef Abdulazeez had been growing pot in the basement, his family might have lost their home and their cars. Since he only carried out a brutal domestic terrorist attack against American military personnel, neither he nor they had nothing to worry about. And that’s just wrong.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/259540/deport-abdulazeez-family-daniel-greenfield

  7. duh_swami says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 10:21 am

    ‘We are going to get sharia law if we want it or not, the only question is, will it be by consent or conquest’…

    Of course, we can always take the attitude, ‘That’s what you think Abdullah, but we got a few surprises for you’.
    We will not submit and conquest is going to be very hard to do…of course the gun grabbers could always disarm us and then we would be helpless before conquest…

  8. mortimer says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 10:32 am

    America received over 5 million German immigrants during the great period of immigration. Most became totally integrated Americans, blending in with everyone else. At the start of WWII some German Americans (like Lindberg) were seduced to join the pro-Nazi German American Bund, but they soon realized their mistake and all joined in fighting fascism.

    However, in spite of the events since 9-11, one Muslim in six still supports terrorism. Franklin Graham is not wrong in his concern.

    The US would NOT have imported believing Nazis in WWII and provided them with financial help in resettlement, but it certainly locked up the ones they discovered!

    • Papa Whiskey says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 10:41 am

      The reason the U.S. adopted sensible policies during World War II is that the left supported them after Hitler made the mistake of attacking the Soviet Union. Had he not done so, the left would have striven to sabotage the war effort, even as it does today, which might have cost us victory — or even survival.

      • mortimer says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 10:56 am

        Good point. The cultural Marxists are supporting the Islamic supremacists.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 11:39 am

      Overall, muslims aren’t here as migrants wanting to help to produce the ingredients and cook the pie before getting a piece of it, they’re here as colonizers, who feel entitled to have others produce the ingredients and cook the pie for them, and a certain political spectrum is more than willing to ensure that they’re free to colonize us as they see fit.

    • Jaladhi says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 11:44 am

      They all support terrorism in one form or the other and mask their support with all irrelevant statements. I don’t and won’t trust what they say to our face! If it means lumping them all together then so be it. their record clearly speaks for itself!!

  9. ECAW says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 11:00 am

    I wonder if those who quote Enza Ferreri for support (last link in the article) know everything they should know about her:

    “The second phenomenon is the exposure of how easy it is for Jews to ally themselves with (or taking the side of) Muslims, if it suits their interest either in their war against the White gentiles — their perceived main Western enemies — or in other ways.”

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2015/02/un-reveals-israels-support-for-isis/

    http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/author/enza-ferreri/

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 2:34 pm

      Well, well, well.

      *Many* thanks, ECAW, for posting this.

      I must admit, I simply assumed she was a staunch Counter-Jihadist; I had no idea she was also a rabid anti-Semite, with a virulent hatred for Israel.

      And the comments ! Absolutely vile.

      No-one should quote this vile bitch for support in anything.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Jul 26, 2015 at 9:03 am

        Mirren

        and ECAW

        thanks for the heads-up. I went and had a poke around. Oh, dear. I had a careful read through those articles – and attendant comments – that ECAW flagged. Dear god it felt like plunging through shiny green grass into an open cess pit. You flounder round desperately, crawl out and when you’ve finished throwing up you rush off to bath yourself in disinfectant. The ‘comments’ at that and a couple of other places I came across, were, overwhelmingly, beyond bizarre. And very, very creepy. It reminded me exactly why Hugh Fitzgerald – who used to post here (and sometimes put up featured articles) quite a lot, some years ago, and has recently reappeared (the article on Arab supremacism in Islam) – has called antisemitism “a pathological condition”.

  10. mortimer says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 11:08 am

    The Abdulazeez family is an illustration of the problem we have with Muslims living among us. They look innocent and integrated until they start shooting…and afterwards no one knows anything about it. (‘He was a normal boy.’)

    It turns out that ‘Instant Jihad Syndrome’ isn’t ‘instant’.

    It should be called INCUBATION JIHAD SYNDROME. The Abdulazeez family created the monster.

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 2:05 pm

      Islamic Russian Roulette, as Raymond Ibrahim says.

  11. mortimer says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Franklin Graham wants people to be ‘nice’ and non-provocative. He fails to see that the SUPREMACISTS are ALREADY PROVOKED.

    When black people in the American South insisted on exercising their right to equality on buses, all hell broke lose because SUPREMACISTS wanted to shut them down.

    We must insist on our right to blaspheme by BLASPHEMING. The MUSLIM SUPREMACISTS should leave the country if they don’t like it.

  12. Agent of Liberty says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 11:27 am

    Shut em down, Muslims off our soil. Can I get a bumper sticker?

    • Cecilia Ellis says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 2:37 am

      Agent of Liberty, you know if you put that bumper sticker on your car, you’ll get pulled over for DWI (Driving While Islamophobic) . . .

  13. Wellington says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 12:25 pm

    Franklin Graham took a step backward with Garland, a step forward with Chattanooga. A larger issue in all this for Americans, who are a remarkably tolerant people with a remarkable constitution drawn up in the late 18th century governing them, is the difficulty I have personally witnessed with people wrapping their head around the idea that mankind could get a major religion which is rotten to the core.

    I just came from a dinner party last night where I spoke a bit abut Islam. People listened as I narrated certain facts they did not know (e.g., “aspects” of the character of Mohammed) and they were shocked by much of what I had to say but I could see by how they replied that they are increasingly being faced with a conflict in their own minds, to wit, on the one hand, like so many Americans, they don’t want to interfere with or criticize other peoples’ religious beliefs but the sheer amount of Islamic terror and bad behavior by Muslims worldwide is challenging their assumption about the importance of religious tolerance for all.

    I believe we’re in the midst of a game changer here in America. Franklin Graham in microcosm is evidence of this. He himself is conflicted but Islam is so awful and will indeed reveal its true nature over time that I am convinced that more and more Americas will come to make an exception for Islam in their calculation about religious tolerance for all. Still a long way to go but the journey has already begun. I can only hope the destination will be reached.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 4:55 pm

      Spot on, Wellington, as usual.

      The way my long-dead redneck Alabama daddy might have put it regarding CAIR’s Islamophobia charade: ISIS DECIDED “WE DON’T LIKE FRIGGINLY PATIENT CALENDARS! After we finish with our cutest goat, you pussies in Washington are next . . .”

    • mortimer says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 5:08 pm

      Wellington wrote: “they are increasingly being faced with a conflict in their own minds”

      Your friends and acquaintances are unwilling to consider that violent behavior comes from a CULTURE that believes in violence…a supremacist culture of entitlement to subjugate disbelievers. They do not want to consider that Islamic culture is so entitlement by the Supreme Being Allah who directs them to create a worldwide dictatorship. Muslims do not feel terrorism is wrong or evil, but the will and divine command of Allah (‘turhibunna’…terrorize them… K.8.60).

      Your friends and acquaintances do not want to connect the dots. I also know such avoidant people. They are unable to consider the obvious, because they are resisting doing anything about it. Softly, softly, gently, gently down the stream…

    • Angemon says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 8:25 pm

      Wellington, don’t you, Americans, have a precedent of federal law superseding religious freedom with the prohibition of polygamy for the mormons?

    • Kepha says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 11:46 pm

      Basically, I think that Graham hates Islam but is concerned with Muslims as people. We Christians have an old tradition of hating the sin, but loving the sinner–knowing full well that we differ from them only in that we know God’s forgiveness given through Christ.

      But I respectfullly disagree that it is the case that Americans who love their Constitution can’t wrap their heads aroundd the idea that there’s a world religion that’s downright evil. I, for one, have no problem with accepting that a lot of human religions are downright evil. A lot of Americans alive back in the late 18th and early 19th centuries believed firmly that without the shed blood of Christ, we’d all be headed for the pits of Hell; and if aware of Calvin’s adage that the human heart is a factory of idolatry (something bad, BTW), they’d have nodded in agreement.

      Our issue is that we’ve come through a century or so of being taught to read the Constitution through a Rousseauan set of glasses that are utterly alien to the minds of the American founders and their intellectual forbears.

      Another issue is that whereas our founders sought a system in which we could respecfully disagree (hence the first and tenth amendments); we now live in an age in which powerful cultural forces demand that certain points of view be penalized. Hence the Marxist-Muslim alliance from Hell (MMAFH).
      Well, I’m getting sleepy. Talk to me later. Good night all.

  14. Jovial Joe says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    ‘Law-abiding Muslims’? NO; muslims biding their time.

  15. voegelinian says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    The fine and astute journalist Enza Ferreri, who wrote this article, notes:

    Islam divides the world into two parts: Dar al-Islam (Arabic for “house of Islam”) and Dar al-Harb (in Arabic, “house of war”).

    One wonders whether Angemon & Phillip Jihadski think Muslims, when they do this, are only imagining a realm beyond planet Earth, or have actual geographical territory in mind motivating them to actually attack various lands throughout history into our bloody present. One reasonably wonders this, because they attacked me many times in various comments for my use of those terms as geographical realities only because Muslims put those geographical (or one should say theographical) ideas into bloody practice. Angemon & Phillip Jihadski in their attacks on me acted like they had never heard of these terms before — odd behavior for individuals who have been studying Islam for fucking years.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 2:42 pm

      Before you applaud Enza Ferreri, voegelinian, I suggest you click on the links provided by ECAW.

      This “fine and astute journalist” is a vicious anti-Semite who bears a virulent hatred for Israel.

    • Angemon says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 8:21 pm

      Huh, voeg, don’t you have a blog where you can lie and fantasize about me, PJ, Robert Spencer, Hugh Fitzgerald, and everyone else around here you so clearly hate? Don’t you think your constant propaganda and demonization of myself and PJ (among others) is getting a little out of hand? Either stick to the topic or go spew your poison elsewhere.

  16. voegelinian says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 2:32 pm

    Enza Ferreri writes:

    “What about all those peaceful and law-abiding Muslims living in the West? They cannot do anything to stop their extreme co-religionists, who not only are more determined but also have the Quran and Islamic jurisprudence on their side.”

    More accurately and carefully, that should be worded thusly:

    “What about all those OSTENSIBLY peaceful and law-abiding Muslims living in the West?”

    She then quotes Theodore Dalrymple:

    “[A] handful of fanatics can easily have a much more significant social effect than a large number of peaceful citizens. There is more to fear in one terrorist than to celebrate in 99 well-integrated immigrants.”

    More accurately and carefully, that should be worded thusly:

    “There is more to fear in one terrorist than to celebrate in 99 SEEMINGLY well-integrated immigrants.”

    Or have Ferreri and Dalrymple not been keeping up with the mountain of data indicating systemic fanaticism among the vast majority of Muslims; countless cases of the False Moderate throughout the West and the world; and the crucial concept — and tactic — of taqiyya?

    At any rate, to focus on their main question, which we may reword with more verve and clarity — “What about all the millions of Muslims living in the West who are not currently (as far as we know) expressing seditious hate, or stabbing, or shooting, or exploding, or plotting to stab or shoot or explode?

    Does one honestly think they will not go ape-shit if the West or the most major part of it (America) stops immigration of their brothers and sisters whose only reason to be denied entry is that they follow the same culture which the entire mainstream West defines as a great world religion assimilable with the modern world?

    And this is not even factoring in the reasonable likelihood that such a measure as Franklin Graham suggests will not be even discussed seriously — let alone implemented — for many years if not decades, during which time more millions of Muslims will immigrate and aggrandize inside the West.

  17. The Last English Prince says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    I attended the Draw Muhammad event. The venue was excellent.

    But I have also visited this:

    https://www.kimbellart.org/exhibition/palace-and-mosque-islamic-art-victoria-and-albert-museum

    And attended this:

    http://archives.dailytimes.com.pk/editorial/10-Dec-2010/comment-of-the-arts-and-crusades-tammy-swofford

    I have also attended an Association of Muslim Social Scientists event at TCU and Dr. John Esposito was the speaker.

    And the beat goes on.

    It is all about Constitutional right. There should be no controversy regarding freedom of expression.

    This Constitutional right is somewhat like the response of G-d when Moses encountered him in the burning bush. When Moses asked who He was, the response was “I am”. Freedom of expression is no different. It is a state of being. It is the ultimate state of being free – which of course, is what the Creator wants for us.

    The Last English Prince

    • Davegreybeard says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 9:52 pm

      @The Last English Prince
      “Freedom of expression is no different. It is a state of being. It is the ultimate state of being free – which of course, is what the Creator wants for us.”

      Of course, Allah wants us to be slaves…

  18. rcourtemanche says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 9:54 am

    Shutting the doors to Muslims might be the only solution. How can the problems be fixed by leaving the back door open?

  19. Uncle Vladdi says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Graham initially took the common liberal trope stance – that not having one’s feelings hurt trumps risking being offended by the often-painful truth, as if all humans didn’t naturally first react in denial to all new ideas (see Elizabeth Kubler-Ross and others).

    Islam can be easily studied and known in its entirety, by anyone. It will never change!

    So, when Western people won’t educate them *selves* about islam because our culture defers all thinking to those “authorities” we PAY to do our thinking and research for us, while they secretly know full-well that the salesmen in charge will always sell us all out, they ARE CRIMINALLY NEGLIGENT INFANTILE DELINQUENT TRAITORS TO RATIONALITY AND CIVILIZATION!

    It should never be allowed by backwards people to be considered “illegal” to accuse these criminals (muslims) of their crimes, allegedly because the painful truth might offend them or hurt their feelings, and so “make” them commit even more crimes!

    No problem was ever solved by ignoring it, and nobody is doing even these muslims any favours, by indulging their historic lies that islam is a “religion” (at all, much less one “of peace”) or a “race” (much less one of poor oppressed “People Of Colour”)!

    Pretending there is NOT a Muslim problem but only a white racist problem accepting diversity, is criminally negligent TREASON.

    Keeping the muzzie masses ignorant of their own hate-crime death-threat canon seems to be the self-imposed mission of most of the enemedia, government and of course their corporazi owners these days – it’s most likely why they keep lying about islam being a “great religion of peace” all the time! That, and their inherent racism, of course!

    We wouldn’t want any of these poor oppressed mentally-inferior swarthy holy-mobster criminals to suffer any “blowback” retaliation (i.e: JUSTICE) for their crimes, now, would we?

    😉

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