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This week’s special edition of The Glazov Gang was joined by London Imam Anjem Choudary, Freedom Center Shillman Fellow Raymond Ibrahim and American Muslim Activist Isa Hodge.
They came on the show to battle it out over whether Islamic theology inspires Islamic terror.
Don’t miss the fireworks!
Peter Buckley says
As usual, the convert seems to know little about his new religion.
He seems to think Malaysia submitted to Islam “peacefully”. Here is a detailed history:
http://www.islam-watch.org/HistoryOfJihad/Jihad-against-Malaysia-Indonesia-Thailand-Philippines.htm
Maybe someone could pass the facts on to Isa Hodge………
As usual, Choudhary represents the authentic picture of how the first muslims understood the Quran and Muhammad.
Finally, and as usual, both adopt the default position of ” it doesn’t matter what you say Islam is the fastest growing religion”. Really? I only note down what muslims themselves say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APVCAxF4C8Q
http://www.exmna.org/
Mosques starting to empty due to lack of young muslims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d-ySfbhILQ#t=156
Maybe someone could also pass those on to Isa Hodge.
Isn’t it wonderful to live in the West where self-delusion is still legal?
Hilarious…..
Liam1304 says
I had the privilege of listening to Mark Durie talk a few weeks ago. He has 80 or so converts from islam to Christianity in his church in Australia. He mentioned that Iran’s population is becoming extremely disillusioned with Islam – having had a real good look at it for a real long time they really don’t like what they see. (Perhaps we can see similar responses in Egypt after the Arab “Spring”.)
Iranian Mosques are now having to be locked during the day to save them from being vandalised. People are so discouraged that they have no confidence to bring children into the world so the birth rate is dropping precipitously. An Iranian friend told Durie that a boat with 130 Iranian Shi’a aboard which recently docked in Australia will have 90% of them converting to Christianity soon after they arrive.
Some good things are happening.
Peter Buckley says
For a book that claims to be “clear” on a number of occasions, it is always heartening to watch its followers completely disagreeing on its true meaning.
As usual, the convert seems to know little about his new religion.
He seems to think Malaysia submitted to Islam “peacefully”. Here is a detailed history:
http://www.islam-watch.org/HistoryOfJihad/Jihad-against-Malaysia-Indonesia-Thailand-Philippines.htm
Maybe someone could pass the facts on to Isa Hodge………
As usual, Choudhary represents the authentic picture of how the first muslims understood the Quran and Muhammad.
Finally, and as usual, both adopt the default position of ” it doesn’t matter what you say Islam is the fastest growing religion”. Really? I only note down what muslims themselves say:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APVCAxF4C8Q
http://www.exmna.org/
Mosques starting to empty due to lack of young muslims:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d-ySfbhILQ#t=156
Maybe someone could also pass those on to Isa Hodge.
Isn’t it wonderful to live in the West where self-delusion is still legal?
Hilarious…..
Concerned Citizen says
Then why are all of these ISIS people making videos stating kill all non believers wherever you find them? Then there are videos out there stating there are ISIS talking about sex slaves…a blonde is worth more, etc?? Anjem is saying that they (ISIS) are all peaceful and they are not doing things that Fox News and the BBC are stating, but yet there are so many videos stating otherwise! I’m so confused.
mortimer says
CC wrote: “Anjem is saying that they (ISIS) are all peaceful and they are not doing things that Fox News and the BBC are stating, but yet there are so many videos stating otherwise.”
Exactly. The facts are visible for even the illiterate. A picture (video) is worth a thousand words and cannot be credibly contradicted.
The lies of Islam are being exposed by the actions of ISIS. It’s the end of Islamic credibility. The West has lost patience and most people now know it is a death cult.
Concerned Citizen says
So true. My question is…how do I get my husband to wake up? He told me the other day that I need to stop looking at JihadWatch! He thinks I’m obsessed!
I just want to be aware of what’s going on in the world!! Yesterday was a bad day for America and I am sure there is more to come unfortunately!!
Liam1304 says
I found the video “Islam: What the West needs to know” is an excellent introduction. Also Robert Spencer’s book “The truth about Muhammad: Founder of the world’s most intolerant religion” while provocatively titled is extremely sound.
What is his religious background – if any? There will be atheist authors and authors of various religious backgrounds that he may be open to listening to more than others.
In the end though, people don’t want to hear until they get to a certain point – like every other area. I was surprised several years ago when chatting with the American parents of our daughter-in-law when the mother said, “Look, I haven’t got time to think about Islam. I have a job and a family. My life is too busy.” I remember thinking “OK, it wasn’t my country that was attacked on 911; it isn’t my country that is the comitting billions of dollars and thousands of lives to try and stop the march of Islamic evil in Iraq and Afghanistan. I can’t make you be interested if this stuff hasn’t already got your attention.”
The good thing is though, the day is coming, not too far away, when he will realise along with many others that he really really needs to know this stuff. Then he’ll be glad he has you 🙂
Concerned Citizen says
Thank you so much for your reply! He is not religious really. He believes that “something” created this world. I guess he thinks he’s invisible. Like nothing will happen to him, only to others! I’m a registered gun owner and I’m on the road a lot, so I will say something to the effect of “you never know if some lone wolf will start shooting and I’ll have to defend myself” and my husband will say “oh my god, really?? You’ve been watching too many YouTube videos and you need to stop reading Jihad watch!” I just don’t want to be naive to think I’m invisible and I’m always cautious wherever I am. Thank you for listening to me ramble on!
Caroline says
My son said the same thing, that I am obsessed. I call it knowing your enemy I know that there are people living in my country, people we have offered sanctuary to, who hate us and want us dead. Ignorance certainly ins’t bliss and I see civil war in our future
Concerned Citizen says
Knowing your enemy is key in battle. People just need to be aware of what’s going on around them. There are so many people that hate America and feel we deserve all of this! Why?! Then why do so millions of people want to come here to live? America is a great country but I am very disappointed in our current government and may God help us all if Hillary gets into office. Now I can say that my husband is very proud of me for my political stance and how I have learned so much in the last 10 years being with him! ☺️
cs says
That is a good question, what is the first video or book one should present to a person, that is not too radical in order to not scare them too much, or not too superficial so they rationalize it. I have seen so much that I am really undecided, to me what worked the most was watching Memri.org videos, I watched thousands of videos from the ME, seen muzzies acting natural, for that I mean, been extremely mizogenist, anti-semitic, backward, unfair, violent, and so on, and always quoting from the Quran, there was no way to go, not apologist to mediate the crap, it is crap first hand. Very authentic.
Angemon says
Concerned Citizen posted:
“Anjem is saying that they (ISIS) are all peaceful and they are not doing things that Fox News and the BBC are stating, but yet there are so many videos stating otherwise! I’m so confused.”
It’s quite simple: ISIS is not killing innocents, as Fox and BBC would have us believe, because the people ISIS is killing aren’t innocents, according to islamic law. Likewise, they’re not raping women because islamic law allows muslim men to have sex with women captured in war.
Stephanie says
OUT:_of_historical context™ Mr. Hodge 🙂
Photos of today,
cruel_punisher#1, Q5:38(-40) “AMPUTATE hands” (without anesthesia)
4:34 women_BEATER#1 allah, “BEAT them”
https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/622032060354588672
G179 says
I am impressed by Choudary’s ability to spout lies at an unprecedented rate. What is it, about 8-10 lies/minute? I couldn’t keep track. You would have to replay the film in slow motion to point out all of them. The other guy isn’t falling much behind.
Jack Diamond says
Debates, discussions, dialogue with Muslims are pointless. This is exhibit A.
Just keep getting out the truth.
vlparker says
Debating the idiot convert is certainly pointless. Choudary serves a purpose. Although he lies like a rug about some things, he still tells the truth about the goal of converting the world to islam. And Raymond does a good job, but I would like to see some apostates, like AyaanHirsi Ali or Bosch Fawstin on, people who were raised in the religion. More importantly, these shows need as big of an audience as possible. We need to continue to steer our friends and family members to these shows. The American people are slowly waking up but there are still too many clueless people.
Jack Diamond says
Who wants to listen to another Muslim? The time for talking is over. It’s time to tell them a thing or two.
Caroline says
In the good old days, Choudray would have been ‘disappeared’. When I see his smirking face, I want to punch it. I am not a violent person, but I would make an exception for him.
jayell says
Everyone look at the nice room in the background behind the obnoxious Choudhary. Everybody look at the nice clothes Choudhary is wearing and observe his nice (unfortunately) healthy condition. All the result of observing Sharia Law and the benevolence of Allah? Is it hell! More like the generosity of the British tax payer!! The man is bigotted, fraudulant scrounger. End of.
Sam says
All of this conversation leads to the fact that “Islam is a religion of peace”, all violence we see by Muslims all over the world has nothing to do with Islam. Islam is a wonderful religion and will conquer the world by peace and if needed by violence. What ever Islam does it is a peaceful religion.
The whole f***** world is crazy and I believe that Islam has caused, is causing, and will cause mayhem on humanity until it is wiped off the face of the earth, We are looking at another 300 or so years for this to be accomplish. In the meantime get a gun to protect yourself and family from a random attack by a “True Muslim”
celticwarriorcanada says
The attitude and body language of these three men is so telling : Hodge puts on the arrogant Islamic Superiority face ; but his use of Ridicule and his mocking laughter at Raymond (to me ) makes Hodge appear very insecure , and unsure . Choudary on the other hand, ( though I think he is a pompus arrogant ass) seemed very confident and assure of himself . I can understand why young men might look up to him . I was amazed how well he behaved himself . Raymond on the other hand appears like the Confident Scholar, Unmoved Because he has so many well researched facts and truth on his side . Even though I think Choudary should should be Deported or better yet Imprisoned , I personally see Hodge as the greater threat and his references to the KKK and Westboro Baptist as quite ridiculous and a Desperate DeFence . Choudary’s reference to Hitler being a Christian I did find truly laughable . Perhaps he doesn’t understand that Aryan Paganism and Christianity are Not Compatible !
More Ham Ed says
Someone show me where upwards of 400 MILLION baptists believe in the death penalty for leaving Christianity.
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia/
Sura 9:5 – spoken to CURRENT DAY followers.
Sura 4:3 – spoken to CURRENT DAY followers.
Sura 4:24 – spoken to CURRENT DAY followers.
Exodus 22:20 – spoken to the people of that time.
Matthew 14:10 – spoken by king Herod a man who took the wife of his brother i.e. acted like moham_MAD.
By the way (Hodge) it’s “Revelation” not “RevelationS”
THERE IS NO REVELATION 20:40
Rev 20:4 – “And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus…” In other words beheaded by muslims.
The Deyanov killing, there’s nothing in the New Testament he could point to. Exactly.
Sharia is being implemented, they don’t have gambling, alcohol, pornography, hands, feet or heads.
In debates like this muslims have to jump in, interrupt, make ad homenim attacks laugh mock etc. Robert Spencer knows this all too well.
26424 deadly ISLAMIC terror attacks since 9/11.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
Offensive Jihad, taken by the sword – exactly.
sidney penny says
25.19 Anjem Choudary, :
“i believe that one day the whole world will be governed by Sharia”
Other Muslims say the same thing
Other Muslims want the same thing.
That is why you need anti Sharia laws in non muslim countries.
The Shari’a runs countries of Afghanistan and Irag are not good role models
Red says
ISA, I hope you get to read this. You were never a Christian because you were never regenerate by the Holy Spirit. Islam is growing fast because Christians are not evangelizing like they used to, and Satan is prowling like a lion devouring souls, by using Islam to do it. Paul said that if another Gospel is preached other than the one I have preached to you, let him be accursed. Even if Islam conquers for a time, it does not become in itself the truth based on numbers of converts or controlling parts of the globe. This world belongs to our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. ISA, give your life to Christ and repent for you evil. God will forgive you if you come to Him with a honest heart in seeking Him. I hope you leave this vile path which leads to everlasting punishment.
Kilfincelt says
First, Hitler was not a Christian. Stalin was not a Christian, Mao was not a Christian.
Second, Christians, Muslims, and Jews did not live in perfect harmony. Muslims killed over 5,000 Jews in one Spanish community.
Peter Buckley says
“Islam is growing fast…”
Where is the evidence? Why do you say that? Do you believe it just because people keep repeating it?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f92Nx4u-SMQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyD4PjokjTI
Yes, Islam is “growing” in the West -only because of large-scale immigration.
According to the last British census, Atheism/ Agnosticism is growing FIVE TIMES FASTER than Islam.
These are the official figures:
http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/census/2011-census/detailed-characteristics-for-local-authorities-in-england-and-wales/sty-religion.html
People really need to stop panicking about Western Countries becoming Islamic States.
It ain’t gonna happen,OK?
The biggest change, which is now beginning, will be in “muslim countries”, where you will find huge increase in Atheism and conversions to Christianity. Once these countries become truly secular, with no trace of Sharia, they will change very quickly. It is only elements of Sharia that is maintaining the appearance of being “muslim countries”.
http://www.aina.org/news/20080402155722.htm
Angemon says
And, of course, one of the muslim apologists had to mention al-Andalus as being an utopian society where people from all religions (well, Christians, Jews and muslims – we know what muslims did to pagans once they got there) worked together and side-by-side to achieve things greater than they would have if they worked together. It’s a load of bollocks – al-Andalus, like any other given muslim-controled area, was a reign of terror for non-muslims and a marginally better reign of terror for muslims.
A couple of examples:
http://libro.uca.edu/martyrs/cm2.htm
“Perfectus, who served at the basilica of St. Aciscius just outside the city walls, was stopped one day on his way to market by a group of Muslims. Seeing that he was a priest, they asked him to explain the “catholic faith” and to share with them his opinions about Christ and Muhammed. Fearing that he would only provoke his audience, Perfectus declined. But when the Muslims swore to protect him, he proceeded, in Arabic, to decry Muhammed as one of the false prophets foretold by Christ and as a moral reprobate who had seduced the wife of his kinsman.
Though angered by the harsh attack, the Muslims respected their oaths and let Perfectus go on his way. But a few days later the priest ran into some of the same group, who no longer felt constrained by their earlier promise. Seizing Perfectus, they took him before the magistrate and testified that he had disparaged the prophet. As they led Perfectus to prison to wait out the holy month of Ramadân, he repeatedly denied his guilt. Only when he realized that his fate was sealed did he repeat his denunciation of Islam. On April 18, 850, Perfectus was decapitated before the crowds that had gathered to celebrate the end of the feast.”
http://jewishcurrents.org/december-30-the-grenada-massacre-13617
“A Muslim mob stormed the royal palace in Granada, Spain on this date in 1066, crucified Joseph ibn Naghrela, the Jewish vizier to the Berber king, and massacred more than a thousand Jewish families. According to the 1906 Jewish Encyclopedia, “Arabic chroniclers relate that [the vizier] believed neither in the faith of his fathers nor in any other faith,” and that he “controlled” the King and “surrounded him with spies.” The most bitter of his enemies was Abu Ishaq of Elvira, who wrote a maliciously anti-Semitic poem that helped spark the pogrom. Joseph’s father Samuel was a Talmudic scholar, grammarian, philologist, poet, warrior, and statesman who died ten years before the massacre. Among the Jews who fled the Iberian Peninsula after the massacre were the famed Bible commentators Abraham Ibn Ezra and Rabbi Yosef Karo (author of the Shulchan Aruch).
“Do not consider it a breach of faith to kill them, the breach of faith would be to let them carry on. They have violated our covenant with them, so how can you be held guilty against the violators? How can they have any pact when we are obscure and they are prominent?””
This is the kind of stuff that is overlooked and stuffed into a fridge , which is then thrown into a landfill and covered with tons of dirt, when pretending that al-Andalus was all peace and love. Whatever “acceptance” muslims had of Christians and Jews came either from necessity (early on, when muslims conquered the Iberian Peninsula and were in the minority) or from the acceptance of the dhima by Christians and Jews. Under the dhima, muslims were to dominate Christians and Jews in all spheres of political and social life. And a fun fact, while Christian Spain and Portugal get a bad rap for forcing Jews to convert to Christianity, barely anyone points out that centuries before, when muslims controlled most of the Iberian Peninsula, they did the exact same thing. They took children from their Christian and Jewish families and forced them to convert to islam.
It’s no accident that for centuries Europeans in general – North to South, East to West – shared a common image of muslims as rapacious, bloodthirsty, imperialist barbarians who indulged in all manner of atrocities and perversions against non-muslims and justified their actions on religious grounds.
killerjools says
Chaudury is right. Isa is not a practicsing muslim and would not be accepted as a true muslim if he were to move to an islamic country.
Isa is well and truly outgunned in this debate. It gets really sad.
Don Foss says
Isa, you Taqiyya Foaming Tool…the only way you and your ilk are able to get away with your lies is the intellectual laziness of most people. But, unfortunately for you, the truth is right in your scripture for all to see. And as far as any “misinterpretation”….let’s not forget that the Qur’an is the very word of Allah handed down to mankind in the language he consdered perfect. Strange, then, that so many millions “misinterpret” him.