“Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson says that in order to keep ISIS from radicalizing Americans inside the United States, it is ‘critical’ not to use the word ‘Islamic’ when describing attacks or other actions tied to the terrorist group.”
The fallacy here is that Muslims are looking to non-Muslims to define for them what is and isn’t Islamic. Does Jeh Johnson really think that some young Muslim who is impressed by the Islamic State is going to stop and think, “On the other hand, Jeh Johnson (or John Kerry, or David Cameron, etc.) says they’re not Islamic, so I better not join after all”? Does he really think that someone whose holy book tells him he is one of the “best of people” (Qur’an 3:110) is going to care one way or the other about what one of the “most vile of created beings” (Qur’an 98:6, on unbelievers) says about what his religion is and isn’t all about?
“DHS Secretary Won’t Describe ISIS As ‘Islamic’ Terrorists,” by Mike Levine, ABC News, July 23, 2015:
Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson says that in order to keep ISIS from radicalizing Americans inside the United States, it is “critical” not to use the word “Islamic” when describing attacks or other actions tied to the terrorist group.
“[ISIS] would like to be referred to as ‘Islamic extremism’ because it therefore concedes that what they are saying and what they are doing occupies legitimately some form of Islam,” Johnson said today at a national security forum in Aspen, Colorado.
“The Muslims I know and that I’ve spent a lot of time with in this country believe just the opposite,” he added.
Rebuffing any suggestion that he’s being “politically correct,” Johnson said “building trust” with Muslim community leaders across the United States is “fundamental” to the U.S. government’s counter-terrorism efforts….
Johnson has sat down with as many as 100 community members at a time – in meetings from Minneapolis to Maryland – to discuss how they can help identify and stop Americans like Abdulazeez from being radicalized by an onslaught of online ISIS propaganda in particular, the secretary said.
In each of those meetings, according to Johnson, he “consistently” hears this: “[ISIS] is trying to hijack my religion.”
“And so if you call it ‘Islamic anything,’ we are dignifying this terrorist organization with occupying a part of the Islamic faith which Muslims in this country I know push back very strongly on,” Johnson said. “If I went into these meetings calling it ‘Islamic extremism,’ I’d get nowhere.”
“I think it’s critical that in order to build our relationships and build our level of cooperation with the Islamic communities here, we have to say to them ‘Look, we understand that what this depraved terrorist organization is doing is no part of your religion,’” Johnson told those attending the Aspen Security Forum, which brings together some of the highest-ranking officials in counter-terrorism and intelligence from around the world.
Dave J says
To the contrary, it appears to be the core of the “religion”. To claim the opposite is magical, wishful thinking.
john spielman says
all I can say is: son, being STUPID and POLITICALLY CORRECT is no way to go through life! (to paraphrase Dean Wermer from Animal House)
jihad3tracker says
THANKS, JS, FOR REMINDING ME OF A CLASSIC LINE — from one of the all-time great comedies. Herewith is sent an emphatic recommendation to readers here who have not seen “Animal House” to do so (or at least Youtube for clips) when Islam’s relentless subjugation and slaughter start to get you down in the dumps.
But, if my Swiss-cheese memory is correct, Dean Wermer — acted superbly by John Vernon — also included “fat” and “drunk” along with “stupid” as being “no way to go through life” in his admonition to pledge Flounder.
I have never seen Jeh Johnson without that inch-thick suit he wears (Kevlar weave just in case peaceful Muslims get “radicalized” during fellowship conferences ???) so if he is fat I cannot say. But I would bet dollars to doughnuts that he goes home at workdays end and has multiple stiff drinks to counteract all the abundant BS that bossman Hussein insists he perform with.
And if you DO watch some clips, include “toga party” in search terms, along with “Otis Day and the Knights”, “I got a lot of catchin’ up to do” (said by the town mayor’s daughter) as she arrived at the frat bacchanale, and, finally, the girlfriend of a Delta House member immunizing Bluto Blutarsky (John Belushi) against Muzzie attacks —- just after he impersonated, via a mouthful of mashed potatotoes, a zit: “That boy is a P-I-G . . . pig”.
mortimer says
PRESUMPTUOUS AND RASH CONJECTURE!
Rather than say: ‘I’m not sure what Islam actually teaches’ (factual)…Johnson chooses to reveal his lack of preparation to speak on the subject.
This politically-motivated BS is worse than being misinformed. It’s goes against what 80% of Americans now believe: that jihad is a threat to Americans.
By telling Americans he understands Islam better than the top authorities of Islam, Johnson is a liability without credibility to anyone. He should be retired immediately.
mccode says
Clueless
miriamrove says
Sec. Of PC. m
Stephanie says
Airhead,
NO_part_of_Islam™ Allah, 9:111 “SLAY and are SLAIN … that is the achievement SUPREME.”
LOVE™ Allah 🙂 5:38(-40) “AMPUTATE hands” (without anesthesia)
vs. German Constitution Art 2, 2
Stephanie says
Airhead, or coward traitor is “Homeland SECURITY(!!) Secretary Jeh Johnson 🙁
Voytek Gagalka says
“Jeh Johnson says…” Yea, he is SUCH expert on Islam, along together with his boss (whose only knowledge of Qur’an is to be able to perfectly recite its Call for Prayer, in perfectly pronounced and well accented Arabic). And subsequently all those adepts to jihad should listen to them! If only pigs could fly (perhaps on carpets?)
Georg says
Funny Obama et al. have no compunction about speaking of the “horrible deeds” done “in the name of Christ” as people sit down to Easter breakfast. I’ll go out on a limb and guess he didn’t mention any of Mohammed’s misdeeds at the recently celebrated Eid dinner attended by the Obamas — call it a hunch.
How much of this can we really take?
RCCA says
Sounds like a nice trick, a mind game that will fool no one. The type of people who are going to show up at a community meeting with the Director of Homeland Security are not the type of people who are going to associate with fanatics and jihadis. That group is like a meeting of nice people who have never smoked or done drugs getting together to discuss how to identify someone who might become a smoker or drug addict. They have zero insight on that topic and no kid is going to be swayed by anything they have to say about how bad smoking or doing drugs is.
Abdulazeez is an obvious example of a young man vulnerable to violent jihad. He had emotional problems — and his father sent him to Jordan to get away from the Western “bad influence” of his friends who drank and did drugs. Religion was supposed to solve his problems. Jordan is probably where Abdulazeez became entrenched in traditional, pure Islam.
Sam says
Idiot. This whole Obama administration is full of ignorant idiots.
john spielman says
idiots -maybe, BUT TRAITORS ALL- definitely
EYESOPEN says
Absolutely!
nicu says
What a BS !
We see it everyday what islam is – stop lying to us and make it better as it is !
Cecilia Ellis says
“In each of those meetings, according to Johnson, he “consistently” hears this: “[ISIS] is trying to hijack my religion . . . I think it’s critical that in order to build our relationships and build our level of cooperation with the Islamic communities here, we have to say to them ‘Look, we understand that what this depraved terrorist organization is doing is no part of your religion.’”
If that is the case, where are the expected marches of tens of thousands of Muslims denouncing ISIS or any other Islamic terror organization for hijacking their religion? Conveniently, these whispered disavowals typically come in closed meetings with Muslim community members, subsequently to be leaked to leftist and politically correct journalists. Admittedly, interviews with local imams do promote the religion-of-peace narrative on mainstream media, but not once have I heard any imam issue a nation-wide or community-wide call for Muslims to denounce the murder and violence exhorted by Qur’anic verses or by emulation of Muhammad, “the perfect man.”
We do not need to “build our relationships and build our level of cooperation with the Islamic communities here.” They need to build their relationships and their level of cooperation with the non-Islamic communities here in America. A good starting point would be their acknowledgement that ISIS, et al., does in fact represent the core concepts of Islamic ideology.
Linde Barrera says
To Cecilia Ellis- Your 1:11 pm July 24 post “hit the nail on its head” when you wrote about the lack of marchers and parades by so-called “moderate” or “peaceful” Muslims protesting what IS does in the name of Islam. And that idea, Ms. Ellis, is one which should be asked by all of us when the conversation turns in that direction. Your point about imams issuing a directive against IS is also well taken. Thank you, thank you, thank you.
Cecilia Ellis says
Linde, thank you for your kind reply! The hardest part will be getting the conversation to turn in that direction . . . if it ever does.
Shmooviyet says
In other words Jeh wants everyone to lie the way he and his cohorts do.
The muslims HE knows don’t feel this or that way…
Has he paid any attention to the polls from ‘muslim communities’ which show the percentages of sharia-supporting members? How much time has he spent living in cities that are being choked with very recent plane-loads of fresh “refugees”??
He lies like a rug.
Don McKellar says
“Your Jedi mind tricks won’t work on me!” said Jabba the moslem.
Westman says
Government: “Look, we understand that what this depraved terrorist organization is doing is no part of your religion.”
To be true a small correction is necessary: “Look, we understand that what this depraved terrorist organization is doing is no part of your PERSONAL religion.” And that assumes only poorly informed Muslims, with a shallow knowledge of Islam’s doctrine, are listening.
What the US government refuses to accept is that official, orthodox, Islamic Doctrine is seditious, anti-democratic, violent, and supremist. There are wonderful, peaceful Muslims. There is no peaceful Islam.
A wise person would observe majority-Muslim countries to lean the reality of Islam.
Bob Smith says
This clown is a talking sock puppet for the Islamic Manchurian Candidate – Obama.
Thank a democrat for the change.
Michael Copeland says
Swallowing the lies he is fed and regurgitating them to the nation makes him dangerous.
Angemon says
Jaladhi says
Morons, morns and more morons!! The ex-moron was replace by a new moron!! How is that our government finds only stupid people to head all departments!!
Jaladhi says
There is nothing to hijack in Islam – it will be hijacked only of there was anything valuable in it. The whole religion is full of jihadic atrocities – where do these Muslims come from – they don’t know their own religion!! LOL..
Champ says
“I think it’s critical that in order to build our relationships and build our level of cooperation with the Islamic communities here, we have to say to them ‘Look, we understand that what this depraved terrorist organization is doing is no part of your religion,’” Johnson told those attending the Aspen Security Forum
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Nothing to do with islam? Oh my lying eyes …read the quran!
The unholy quran instructs mohammedans to commit jihad, including terrorism.
Wow the lies continue to snowball, one right after the other …
Goat Pimp says
What a moron, the exact opposite is the case. You are just emboldening the whole group of Muslim youth.
What influences them more, their Imam who preaches to them about how holy war against the Kafir is every Muslim’s duty according to Mohammed and thus Allah, or this dude (Kafir) who says that holy war is not Islamic?
The Imam has the authority. He is the interpreter of Islam which is very important to the young Muslim because if he pisses in the wrong direction he is going to burn forever in a well-described hell.
Tell the truth! Everybody knows it is Islam, especially the potential terrorists who are riding the fence between terrorism and normal Muslim misogyny and Jew hatred. All you are doing is making them laugh at the stupid Kafir.
blitz2b says
Who will educate these fools? Is it so hard to pick up and read the damn trilogy of hate (Koran, Hadiths, Sira), that constitute the CORE teachings of the religion of Islam, and responsible for the brainwashing of gullible minds, and the disastrous wrath on unbelievers they spew?
How hard is it? huh?
Twice, we have willfully elected and surrounded ourselves with idiots and imbeciles….
God help us all!
nacazo says
We must listen to Imam Jeh Johnson. After all, his islamic credentials are impeccable. I think he spent about 10 years studying in Al-Azhar islamic madrassa….
What??? He has not done any islamic studies anywhere????
Are you implying that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about and he’s drinking the islamic kool-aid???
/sarc off
somehistory says
o tries to tell Christians what they should/shouldn’t do, having no personal knowledge of his own upon which to rely. o tries to tell Christians what they have done wrong and how Christians must change in order to be doing right, although he has no personal knowledge of what it means to be a Christian and have a faith in Christ….just a pretense at the beginning.
o has tried to tell the Jews in Israel how and when and what they should/shouldn’t be doing.
o claims to be *a member of the tribe,* but has no personal knowledge of what it means to be a Jew and follow the faith of the Jews.
jeh has personal knowledge of islam, but is endeavoring to pull the wool over the eyes of those who have no knowledge of islam, or not enough knowledge, in order to keep the image of islam intact.
Mind control…control the narrative…control the population…pay no attention to those persons behind the curtain.
Raja says
And the people the curtain are the Islam masters(think tank) and sophisticated modern day mafia if I may add so…..
Lynn says
He’s already a dhimmi. Amazingly choosing to stay ignorant and believe the taqiyya.
mortimer says
65% of Muslims worldwide disagree with Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson.
They consistently say they want strict Sharia law and a caliphate…that describes ISIS.
Al Azhar University, the top authority in Islam has not said that ISIS is un-Islamic.
Is Jeh Johnson an AYATOLLAH?
Raja says
Well said Moriimer. This idiot beside giving false certificates and preaching assumes he knows more than Al Azhar University. His ego is bigger than that of Ayatollah just because he is from the West. Whatever the size of his brain he seems to be too immature to speak out for terror. These stupid guys just want to thrust another holocaust on humanity!!!!!!!!!!!!
Guy Macher says
This joker got the job because he is black. He is incompetent, unqualified, unsuited, ignorant and without accomplishment. Just like the usurper who appointed him.
Baucent says
Johnson is actually showing a patronizing attitude to muslims as if they are not mature enough to recognize some of their co-religionist’s are a problem.
It’s like not being able to talk about Nazi’s as it might offend all Germans. Pure and simple PCBS.
Wellington says
Typical for what passes for public servants in the West nowadays———and all part of the reason why the West is in such deep shit nowadays.
Kepha says
In the immortal words of Charlie Brown, AUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHGHGHGHGH!
But, what more do you expect from people steeped in a relativistic view of things?
Raja says
Muslims know their religion better than anyone else. How else would explain the lack of interest(of mulsims) to join anti-ISIS war plan? It is high time the administration quit preaching about Isam to muslims.
This guy seems to be a thorough bred idiot having no regard whatsoever of what muslims think of him (as a useful idiot) They will only use him as a tissue paper!!!!!!
Nimrod says
I’m a little confused here. Is it Grand Mufti Jeh Johnson or Grand Mufti Barak Obama saying this? Or is someone else the Grand Mufti?
It seems to me that if they are going to issue Islamic rulings on what and what isn’t Islam then they need to appoint a Grand Mufti. Obama ought to be able to do it with an executive order since the constitution seems to be no obstacle to such things anymore.
afrostreetwise says
Nimrod, Prezzo Obama will be addressing us( he is here in the land of his father-Kenya). Depending on how/what he will say on terrorism which obviously is closely linked to terrorism, then your confusion should ease somewhat. We live him though, after all he is family. You guys should visit kogello village and see the jubilation.
particolor says
Yes they are even Jumping up and down with Glee in the ISIS Camp’s ! 🙂
sidney penny says
“The fallacy here is that Muslims are looking to non-Muslims to define for them what is and isn’t Islamic. Does Jeh Johnson really think that some young Muslim who is impressed by the Islamic State is going to stop and think, “On the other hand, Jeh Johnson (or John Kerry, or David Cameron, etc.) says they’re not Islamic, so I better not join after all”? Does he really think that someone whose holy book tells him he is one of the “best of people” (Qur’an 3:110) is going to care one way or the other about what one of the “most vile of created beings” (Qur’an 98:6, on unbelievers) says about what his religion is and isn’t all about?”
Another great summary from Robert Spencer
Atheist American says
Why doesn’t this asshat read the Qu’ran? That might awaken him from his clueless slumber. On second thought, no it wouldn’t. This leftists are so dogmatic in their belief that Islam is peaceful that they could witness a Muslim quote the Qu’ran publicly, detonate a bomb immediately thereafter, and still not think the explosion was, in any way, connected to the religion of “peace.”
Robbie says
I’m sure that fools like Jeh Johnson believe that actually READING the Qu’ran would be an act of islamaphobia. Lets face it folks, we in the U.S. are now living in a nation whose Federal government is both stupid and anti-American.
PRCS says
“the highest-ranking officials in counter-terrorism and intelligence from around the world.”
I think they’re just high.
I’d bet Uncle Nihad is feeding him that crap.
Gary Scholl says
This mentality and false narrative about Islam will doom us all. Our govt has got to accept Islam for what it truly is.
medaber_emet says
is this guy for real ????????????
i started to read what he says and he is so funny
i tell you this guy is so detached from reality
can anyone tell me how the americans are choosing such incompetent people to function in so important positions
your president put around him so many jokers
its buffoons administation
forgive me if all i have is contempt but i truely expected more from america
you sing about the land of the free and the home of the brave
and you are so afraid of the fucking arabs that you let them be the lords of the land and you relinquish your freedom and you are willing to change your glorious constitution for a fucked up 7th century SHARIA
america has disappointed me so much
mortimer says
Johnson is unprepared to speak about Islam. He should be replaced by someone who has read the Koran and hadiths.
PRCS says
We can only speculate whether he’s unprepared to speak about Islam or is just parroting the PC/bipartisan line.
I’m not aware of a single Republican presidential candidate who has actually articulated the real problem with Islam; Qur’an and sunnah: all of them–as far as I know–resorting instead to variations of the “radical/extremist” meme to avoid telling the uncomfortable truth–if they know it.
And we know that so-called “journalists” aren’t telling the truth either.
RG says
@medaber_emet, You sound more ‘American’ than most who proudly call themselves Americans! Sadly ‘free’ people never know what they’ve got until they lose it all! That’s exactly where we are at! Prosperity and self-indulgence has blinded us to the impending holocaust which is not far off! America’s days as a sovereign independent nation are not very much longer. Just wait till Iran has the bomb! Does Obomba really think that anything he says will stop them from actually using it?????
mortimer says
Authentic Islamic verses for Ayatollah Johnson:
Some Islamic source texts for Johnson:
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:50 “The Prophet said, ‘A single endeavor of fighting in Allah’s Cause is better than the world and whatever is in it.'”
Muslim:C9B1N33″The Prophet said: ‘I have been commanded to Fight against people till they testify there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prostration prayer, and pay Zakat. If they do it, their blood and property are protected.'”
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:63 “A man came to the Prophet and said, ‘Shall I Fight or embrace Islam first?’ The Prophet said, ‘Embrace Islam and then fight.’ He became a Muslim and was died shahid. The Prophet said, ‘A little work, but a great reward.”
Sahih Bukhari 4:53:386 “Our Prophet ordered us to Fight you till you worship Allah alone or pay us the Jizyah tribute tax in submission. Our Prophet has informed us that our Lord says: ‘Whoever amongst us is killed as a syahid shall go to Paradise to lead such a luxurious life as he has never seen, and whoever survives shall become your master.'”
Narrated By Ibn ‘Abbas : ” The Prophet said, on the day of the Conquest of Mecca, “There is no migration (after the Conquest), but Jihad and good intentions, and when you are called for Jihad, you should immediately respond to the call.'”
Sahih Bukhari 4:52:45 “Someone asked, ‘Allah’s Apostle, who is the best among the people?’ He replied, ‘A believer who strives his utmost in Allah’s Cause with his life and property.'”
Jack Holan says
Oh this is so simple to shut Jeh Johnson down with one question: Jeh if the practice of IS is not Islamic, please explain how it comes to be that for the Sunni Saudi Arabia adheres to many of the same practices and beheads for blasphemy apostate LGBT confines women (owns) and for the Shia Iran is demonstrably the same? Please explain how one follows the Qur’an and one doesn’t?
Peter says
Department of Hyper Stupidity
jewdog says
The Qur’an is wrong about unbelievers being the vilest of created beings, government bureaucrats are.
Lee Hicks says
More lies from Obama’s home team. They may not all be Muslims, but all are operating as Dhimmis, non-Muslims living under the rule of a Muslim (Obama), parroting his lies and deceptions. Such acts have everything to do with Islam, and only the hopelessly blind would infer otherwise. The real ignorance of the evil nature of all of Islam is mind-boggling and very dangerous. You can’t resist a mortal enemy that your refuse to recognize.
Betty says
ROBERT I think you need to try and hold a few classes with this man. he is dumb as a rock when it comes to the muslims. maybe you put a few bugs in his ear.or beer.
Uncle Vladdi says
Keeping the muzzie masses ignorant of their own hate-crime death-threat canon seems to be the self-imposed mission of most of the enemedia, government and of course their corporazi owners these days – it’s most likely why they keep lying about islam being a “great religion of peace” all the time! That, and their inherent racism, of course!
We wouldn’t want any of these poor oppressed mentally-inferior swarthy holy-mobster criminals to suffer any “blowback” retaliation (i.e: JUSTICE) for their crimes, now, would we?
😉
b.c.terry says
https://youtu.be/Rd8cRvZZv44
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
This IS to be Expected from the DHS.
What IS the DHS Part of – the Obama Administration.
What “Words of Wisdom” has America’s “Imperial Potus”, and HIS Administration, which IS Obviously VERY Pro Islam, Pro Muslim, BUT Obvious;y VERY, Anti Christian Values, Anti American Values, Anti American Constitution, used to Lecture and “Brainwash” America AND the World with: “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”, “The Islamic State ISIS is not Islamic”, Islam has always been part of America”, The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”, “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”, and MORE.
http://www.nowtheendbegins.com/blog/?p=15200 “40 Mind-Blowing Quotes From Barack Hussein Obama On Islam And Christianity When someone shows you who they are, believe them”
slcocker says
Maybe Obama should tell them that they’re clinging too tightly to their Korans and their guns, bombs and swords to see if that works. ISIS is Islam, Islam is packed with murderous psychopathic terrorists: Boko Haram, Taliban, Al Qaeda, ISIS and many others that have everything to do with Islam.
The moderates are just not as well-versed in their Koranic studies or just providing cover for true Islam!
The US should have nothing to do with Islam, no US aid, no Islamic immigrants, no more Muslim presidents!
BommelBen says
What Jeh Johnson should have said to his moderate Muslim friends is: “If you are a decent and intelligent person you would condemn the Islam as a criminal ideology and refuse to remain a part of it and most certainly not hold the robber, murderer, rapist, pedophile and torturer Muhammad as your idol.