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EU’s foreign affairs and security chief: “Islam is a victim…Political Islam should be part of the picture” in Europe

Jul 3, 2015 11:49 am By Robert Spencer

Federica MogheriniOn the one side, you have people saying, “We will conquer your Rome, break your crosses, and enslave your women, by the permission of Allah.”

On the other side, you have the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy saying, “Any attempt to divide the peoples of Europe into ‘us’ and ‘them’ brings us in the wrong direction….The Muslims and us….We learnt from our history that we all are someone else’s ‘other’. The fear of the other can only lead us to new conflicts.” But she was not referring to the Muslims who divide Europe into “us” and “them” by saying, “We will conquer your Rome.” She was referring to those who say that such people should be resisted. For even though she says, “Daʼesh is Islam’s worst enemy in today’s world,” she has no plan to distinguish its many, many thousands of adherents among Muslims in Europe from those who reject it. And so she and her ilk are heading Europe toward a future of chaos and bloodshed.

“Federica Mogherini’s remarks at ‘Call to Europe V: Islam in Europe”, FEPS conference,'” European Union External Action, June 25, 2015:

“The idea of a clash between Islam and “the West” – a word in which everything is put together and confused – has misled our policies and our narratives. Islam holds a place in our Western societies. Islam belongs in Europe. It holds a place in Europe’s history, in our culture, in our food and – what matters most – in Europe’s present and future.”

“Some people are now trying to convince us that a Muslim cannot be a good European citizen, that more Muslims in Europe will be the end of Europe. These people are not just mistaken about Muslims: these people are mistaken about Europe, they have no clue what Europe and the European identity are.”

“The so-called Islamic State is putting forward an unprecedented attempt to pervert Islam for justifying a wicked political and strategic project. … Daʼesh is Islam’s worst enemy in today’s world. Its victims are first and foremost Muslim people. Islam is a victim itself.”

“I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture. Religion plays a role in politics – not always for good, not always for bad. Religion can be part of the process. What makes the difference is whether the process is democratic or not.”

“Maybe we should also take time to brush up on the “acquis” with some Member States. We have a problem of internal coherence. … We have supported the “bring back our girls” campaign for Nigerian girls kidnapped by Boko Haram. There is such a contradiction between our solidarity when these girls are far away, and our lack of solidarity when they are at our door. This is impossible to sustain. In the coming days and months we need to find solutions not only for the girls in Nigeria, but for their sisters and mothers and daughters who are forced to flee by the very same radicalised movements.”

“Any attempt to divide the peoples of Europe into “us” and “them” brings us in the wrong direction. The migrants and us. The Muslims and us. The Jews and us, as anti-Semitism has not been defeated at all. The “other” and us. We learnt from our history that we all are someone else’s “other”. The fear of the other can only lead us to new conflicts.”

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  1. pdxnag says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    So, is the hate filled koran found round the world a fake? If so where is the real one, the one which no living person has ever seen?

    • Georg says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      She does give an excellent critique of the Koran…

    • Holy Prophet APF says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:17 pm

      It’s in the library at the men’s state penitentiary, just past the shower room. But be careful as you read The Book, if you make a commotion the scowling correctional officer/librarian will wash your mouth out with a bar of soap he picked up on the floor of the shower room.

    • Brian says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 12:40 pm

      She is yet another Italian pro-Islam far left politician:

      Wikipedia:
      “Mogherini attended the Sapienza University of Rome where she studied Political Science graduating with a Diploma in Political Philosophy with a thesis entitled “Relationship between religion and politics in Islam”, which she wrote whilst on the Erasmus programme at Aix-en-Provence, France.”

      That says it all…

      • pdxnag says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 1:03 pm

        So, she has absolutely no excuse for saying that Islamic State (and al Azhar University) practice a perverted form of Islam. It is she who must have perverted thoughts in her head about something.

      • Georg says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 2:21 pm

        Does anyone know of a link to, or an example of, an individual from the left who’s supportive of Islam and addresses in more than a passing/anecdotal way the bigoted rhetoric in the Koran?

        Even after years of observing the counterjihad, the Islamophilic left’s position on the Koranic text isn’t explicitly clear — only implicitly so through their support of Islamism.

      • Bamaguje says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 pm

        For goodness sake, how did such a willfully blind mis-educated blithering idiot become an EU leader? These foolish Western leaders will be the death of Western civilization.

        “Some people are now trying to convince us that a Muslim cannot be a good European citizen” – Frederica Mogherini.

        Who are the people trying to convince you that “Muslims cannot be good European citizens”?
        By now, isn’t it obvious that Muslims are the ones who don’t want be “good European citizens”?
        They carve out no-go Sharia enclaves in European cities.
        Even though they are citizens of the West, they run off to join Islamic State savages… as their primary loyalties are to the Umma, not any European country.
        They massacred Charlie Hebdo journalists in flagrant violation of free speech, which the West holds dear.
        Although they are less than 10% of France’s population, they comprise most of her prison inmates.
        They run rape gangs in UK that prey on little girls, and are responsible for most rapes in Scandinavia.
        They hacked a British soldier to death in London, and in the Trojan horse affair, tried to take over British school system.
        They keep multiple wives in violation of the laws and cultural norms of the monogamous West… and at taxpayer expense.
        They are perpetually plotting terror attacks against the West.

        What would it take for willfully blind numbskulls like Ms Mogherini to appreciate the glaring Muslim threat to Europe?

        • Georg says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 9:28 pm

          “What would it take for willfully blind numbskulls like Ms Mogherini to appreciate the glaring Muslim threat to Europe?”

          Nothing. There is no thing which could transpire that would cause this unelected pestilent ideologue to change course. How can our fate be at the discretion of some gullible and cocksure statue of misdirection?

          What can the people do?

      • Green Infidel says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 3:04 pm

        Yes, of course she’s a “political scientist”. The domain of idealistic trendies, usually without the mental skills to take them into the real sciences, medicine, maths or engineering.

        A field where there is no “right or wrong” answer, only the chance to write thousands of words of smooth-sounding waffle.

        And of course, the students would likely meet lots of smooth-sounding imams, and be taught a thousand times over about the “diversity of opinion” in the Islamic world, possibly over an expensive dinner, or maybe even during an expensive trip to Dubai (part-financed by a centre for outreach or “intercultural dialogue”).

        And after being engaged for hours on end in waffle about multi-kulti, tolerance, diversity, respect and the West’s own “terrorism” in the Middle East, why would such a student worry herself with considering the more cumbersome aspects of the Koran, Hadiths or the life od Muhammed?

        • Georg says

          Jul 3, 2015 at 9:16 pm

          Excellent post, Green Infidel. The long and short of it is that many who end up in political science and write theses like hers are waffling pretenders. There are certain well-greased pathways within the public sector where a proper dolt can make it into the control room of civilization.

          An unacceptable percentage of those with a PhD in the social sciences lack the raw intelligence to execute effectively and wade their way through the myriad decisions of superlative complexity which demand a body of knowledge and natural brilliance much rarer than the PhD. Once again, we look to academia as a tragic contributor to the Islamization of the West. That Mogherini is appointed pushes us down the continuum of revulsion to civil disobedience, as we’ve no democratic access to her reign.

  2. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:11 pm

    We learnt from our history that we all are someone else’s ‘other’. The fear of the other can only lead us to new conflicts.

    We’ve learned from the time of Karl Marx that a constant mountainous onslaught of pseudo-intellectual bullshit brings with it bad results. Very bad. This is because the mountains all involve decoupling from reality, the directive to live by a fictive reality instead of the real thing. A lot of history has been made in the 148 years since Karl published his fraudulent tome Das Kapital, a lot of fake reality has been experienced since then, occasionally interrupted by the odd spat of reality, usually in a violent form.

    Islam is a victim itself.

    But we know for sure that the Moslems who comprise Islam are not victims. They are brought into civilization from their respective hellholes at taxpayer expense to receive all manner of benefits for doing nothing of value. Even intellectual counter-intuition cannot conclude that the Moslems are victims. Ms. Mogherini seems to be saying that the Islam of EUrabian Moslems is better than that of the Levant Moslems or the South Asia Moslems, and gee that’s a shame but who gives a damn how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

    Choices now are made between confusions and frauds. Sooner or later we will be forced to confront that unpleasant thing called reality. Even if we prove willing to give up all our prosperity and all our freedom, the point will still come where even that is not enough for the Moslems, who will be aggrieved and feel victimized by their lack of this or that, their wants and needs for more, whereupon they will have no choice but to finally get violent with their Infidel hosts, us, however reluctantly.

  3. Jaladhi says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    Oh Islam is such a goody goody religion being perverted by ISIS – how much more stupid this person can get??? These people just keep digging hole deeper and deeper from they will never ever be able to come out and Muslims will simply bury them!!

    • cs says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 5:25 pm

      It is very worrying that she is high ranking. With such incompetent leadership and intelligentsia I must say things do not look good.

  4. Angemon says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    “The idea of a clash between Islam and “the West” – a word in which everything is put together and confused – has misled our policies and our narratives. Islam holds a place in our Western societies. Islam belongs in Europe. It holds a place in Europe’s history, in our culture, in our food and – what matters most – in Europe’s present and future.”

    “Some people are now trying to convince us that a Muslim cannot be a good European citizen, that more Muslims in Europe will be the end of Europe. These people are not just mistaken about Muslims: these people are mistaken about Europe, they have no clue what Europe and the European identity are.”

    That historically ignorant jackass needs to be put in a place where she can’t harm anyone. Give the woman a ticket to Saudi Arabia. Let her convert to islam and live there as a muslima. Perhaps her delusions will be cured.

    “The so-called Islamic State is putting forward an unprecedented attempt to pervert Islam for justifying a wicked political and strategic project. … Daʼesh is Islam’s worst enemy in today’s world. Its victims are first and foremost Muslim people. Islam is a victim itself.”

    I’ve heard this garbage being regurgitated over and over, but no one has actually managed to explain what the islamic state project is. I mean, they say they want to create a nation where islamic law rules, but our “enlightened” “elected” leaders tell us that isn’t it, without ever giving us an alternative.

    “I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture.

    Yes, let’s throw secularism out like yesterday’s trash, shall we?

    • Georg says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 2:32 pm

      “Yes, let’s throw secularism out like yesterday’s trash, shall we?”

      This woman is terrifying. She unknowingly makes a case criticizing the antisocial nature of the Koran and uses it as reason to invite it into Europe in a zero-sum matchup against secular democracy. Aren’t reasonable people scared for their kids and grandchildren? What is the endgame this woman is working toward? I’d love to see her dissertation about just how Islam will benefit Europe and why it’s worth losing secular democracy in its place.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 2:39 pm

      That historically ignorant jackass …

      Now hold on just a minute, Ang, you’re talking putting her into the pantheon ahead of some serious competition right there. Prez Barack Hussein, for example. Or our slated next president Hill. Or Secretary of State War Coward, who would turn us to the urgent threat of global warmi… er climate change. Or ex-Prez Dubya. Or Secretary Janet. Or how about Iraq Jacques Chirac, who brought about the calamitous EAD? And what of ex-PM Tony or PM David? These are some very serious competitors for a throne in the pantheon.

      Yes, Ms. Mogherini made a near perfect fool of herself with this speech, especially for somebody with the word “security” in his job title. With the emphasis on the word “near” cuz she has much more damage to inflict on civilization before she can be elevated into the pantheon of historical significance.

      Let’s not cheapen things.

      • cs says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 5:47 pm

        oh, and BTW, she does agree with this imam here.
        Europe is a ungrateful daughter …

    • cs says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 5:29 pm

      Islam belongs in Europe, and so the beheadings, hand amputations, FGM, honor killings, blasphemy laws, antisemitism, misogyny, homophobia, jihad, cross breaking, intimidation, child grooming, welfare abuse, et al. Did I forget anything? I probably did.
      Thanks for your post Angemon, it is just about perfect.

    • Georg says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 9:55 pm

      What could possibly be the achievements of political Islam she wants in Europe? What problem does Europe have that only the Muslim Brotherhood could solve?

      This woman is mad.

  5. VRWC member77 says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    *Scum of the earth* ………..that about sums up what she is. How about Federica be a leader and show all those “bigoted others’ “the virtue of the islamic tradition known as FGM and volunteer to be a subject. How about Federica lead by example and house 10 of those MUSLIM -not Christian- refugees landing on the doorstep of Italy from North Africa.

    Why doesn’t she go to Britain and talk to some of the women and GIRLS who have been subjected to the MUSLIM rape gangs and get their take on the opinions of “others”?

    How does an ignorant punk like this end up in these positions of power?

  6. Jaladhi says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    >“The so-called Islamic State is putting forward an unprecedented attempt to pervert Islam for justifying a wicked political and strategic project. … Daʼesh is Islam’s worst enemy in today’s world. Its victims are first and foremost Muslim people. Islam is a victim itself.”<

    This says it all about the this moronic person. How many things are wrong here, count the ways.

    Refusing to call ISIS as ISIS and calling it Da'esh as if this will absolve Islam/Muslims from the atrocities that ISIS is inflicting on innocent men, women and children is the height of immorality!!

    • Holy Prophet APF says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 2:43 pm

      As the wisest of men once said: To name is to know, to know is to control; to incorrectly name is to lose all control.

  7. IQ al Rassooli says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:44 pm

    The High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini’s statements demonstrate the TOTAL lack of intellect and comprehension by most of the Western leaders when they encounter the subjects of Islam & Muslims

    To call her STUPID is an INSULT to the word stupid!

    Yet, among the millions in Europe, there is not a single politician, academician or media person who would point out to this despicable creature how WRONG her conclusions are based entirely upon the Islamic sources.

    When the INMATES are running the asylum, what else can be expected?

    IQ al Rassooli
    Kafir & Proud!

  8. Joe Shmo says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:48 pm

    “so-called Islamic State”, seems there is Europe-wide or worldwide mandate now from on how to deligitimise the Islamic State to become so-called. It’s ever more vital that we help people realise that the Islamic State really is Islamic and is Islamic implementing so-called Islamic law.

    I hate the “so-called” EU btw.

  9. pamela indo says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:52 pm

    The only bigger lie (and thus a longer nose like Pinocchio) that I read today (that is as big a lie if not bigger than what this EU leftist idiot lady just said, is what I just read on the Internet saying that Islam practices and advocates for “multiculturalism”. Are any of us so stupid and gullible as to believe either of these 2 sources of insanity????If so, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I will sell you for $3 million . Let me know and I will give you a PO Box to send the cash ,OK?

  10. somehistory says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    What’s with this *brings us in the wrong direction*? And what about her last name?
    As for her, she should listen to these words, in a song, in a speech, read in a book,
    “Fools rush in where wise men never go” or “Fools rush in where wise men fear to go”
    and see for herself into which category she fits.

  11. mortimer says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 12:57 pm

    Many of the Muslims that Federica Mogherini believes her friends read and/or believe the ideas of modern Islamist Maulana Maududi.

    Such as this: “It must now be obvious that the objective of the Islamic jihad is to eliminate the rule of an un-Islamic system, and establish in its place an Islamic system of state rule. Islam does not intend to confine his rule to a single state or a hand full of countries. The aim of Islam is to bring about a universal revolution. Although in the initial stages, it is incumbent upon members of the party of Islam to carry out a revolution in the state system of the countries to which they belong; their ultimate objective is none other than world revolution.” – 1970, Jihad in Islam’ (Jihad Fi Sabillilah), p. 20, Islamic Publications Ltd., Pakistan

  12. Vox populi says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:00 pm

    … is basically impossible to find a form of life more useless than this “lady” ….

  13. William says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:01 pm

    In the past, the obfuscators tried to pull wool over our eyes by claiming that Islamic terrorists, such as the PLO, Hamas, Al-Qaida, the Taliban, et al, existed because they were fighting for their homeland. They were responding to western or Israeli imperialism and interference into their lands. The obfuscators used the slogan that what is one man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter. However, with the appearance of Islamic State, it is not so easy to pass them off as freedom fighters. Consequently, the light is beginning to shine on the source of the problem that connects all the previous terrorist groups and that source is Islam.

  14. mortimer says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:06 pm

    If she wants more political Islam, Naïve Federica Mogherini should read the following concerning Islamic political expansionism:

    “…a ‘Muslim Party’ will not be content with the establishment of Islam in just one area alone –both for its own safety and for general reform. It should try and expand in all directions. On one hand it will spread its ideology; on the other it will invite people of all nations to accept its creed, for salvation lies only therein. If this Islamic state has power and resources it will fight and destroy non-Islamic governments and establish Islamic states in their place.” – Maulana Maududi (Islamic theorist widely admired and quoted)

  15. Don McKellar says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    The EU and the United Nations — both a hopeless, delusional, corrupt disaster causing almost irreparable damage to the advanced, modern countries and their peoples, all while advancing the black flag of Islam.

    Is Federica Mogherini simply yet another politically correct useful idiot who has no idea what she is talking about and doesn’t want to know? Or is she on a secret payroll or planning to be on a payroll after her term with the EU is over? Or is she an Islamic convert? These truly are the only three possibilities. Which is it?

    • mortimer says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 1:22 pm

      Federica Mogherini is a cultural Marxist who is doing her best not to read Islamic source texts or modern political commentaries by the leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood movement.

      This is so she may preserve INTACT her almost complete ignorance about Islam, and so she may continue to make assine platitudes about something she has never studied.

      Federica Mogherini needs to learn about the goals of political Islam. It’s unacceptable when a politician with such big responsibility as hers doesn’t do any damn homework whatsoever about the major problem in her portfolio.

      • quotha raven says

        Jul 4, 2015 at 6:17 am

        @ Mortimer – but, but…she wrote a PhD dissertation on the religion and politics of Islam! My head is spinning trying to figure out how this chick can spout such crap. Cheers! Quotha

  16. mortimer says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:13 pm

    Question for Federica Mogherini:

    “What are some of the religious differences between Saudi Arabia, Al Qaeda, Boko Haram and the Taliban and Syrian Sunni rebels? Are there any differences?

    • Georg says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 10:13 pm

      And theirs with the Muslim Brotherhood?

  17. duh_swami says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:18 pm

    Man, that’s a whole lot of ‘divine Islamic logic’, right there…
    I wouldn’t hire this woman to protect a house plant…

  18. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture. Religion plays a role in politics – not always for good, not always for bad. Religion can be part of the process.

    1) Islam is not a religion, per se. It is also a government and a military.

    2) To the extent that Islam is a religion, is it a good one or an evil one? And does the answer to this question bear on which the religion part of Islam should be incorporated into EUrabian politics? (If its religion part can somehow be separated from its government and military parts.)

    What makes the difference is whether the process is democratic or not.

    I know this is asking too much from an elite intellectual, but could you please look up Islam’s position on democratic processes in its holy scriptures?

    But what the hell, Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei is our negotiating partner now. So is the Taliban. It’s a process. But not necessarily a good one.

  19. William says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Miss Federica Mogherini is as stupid as the two Italian young women who went to Syria with the naive intention of helping Syrians, and who were captured by the terrorists, and who were released only after their country had to pay a huge ransom.

  20. Paula Boddington says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:26 pm

    Is this woman a certified moron?
    ‘The “other” and us. We learnt from our history that we all are someone else’s “other”. The fear of the other can only lead us to new conflicts.’
    Well we learn from the Quran that the divide between the us and them is at its strongest in Islam. Us, them, us, them, believer, unbeliever, believer, unbeliever, on page after tedious page, and moreover, the constant fear instilled in Muslims that unless they are not good enough, they might turn out to be ‘other’ as well.
    I could start on about how lazy, sloppy and crude this fashionable idea that thinking in terms of ‘the other’ explains all the world’s ills and is the route of all evil, but I have ‘other’ things to do.

  21. Paula Boddington says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:28 pm

    Is this woman a certified moron?
    ‘The “other” and us. We learnt from our history that we all are someone else’s “other”. The fear of the other can only lead us to new conflicts.’
    Well we learn from the Quran that the divide between the us and them is at its strongest in Islam. Us, them, us, them, believer, unbeliever, believer, unbeliever, on page after tedious page, and moreover, the constant fear instilled in Muslims that unless they are good enough, they might turn out to be ‘other’ as well.
    I could start on about how lazy, sloppy and crude this fashionable idea that thinking in terms of ‘the other’ explains all the world’s ills and is the route of all evil, but I have ‘other’ things to do.

  22. mortimer says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Mogherini said: “The so-called Islamic State is putting forward an unprecedented attempt to pervert Islam”

    Name ONE way they have perverted Islam.

  23. zulu says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    Ezra Levant, at the Rebel.Media posted a video about this. Check it out.

    http://www.therebel.media/you_won_t_believe_what

  24. Renee says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 2:15 pm

    Obviously she wants the worst for Europe. She should be kicked out of office immediately. Hope she starts wearing a burka so we do not have to see her again.

  25. JamesonRocks says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 2:16 pm

    If she really wants to stand in solidarity with the moozies, she needs to get her FGM done…

  26. Jon says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:03 pm

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  27. Lisa says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:06 pm

    She is very confused. She has said that no migrant will be sent back against their will. She has said that all these people are not economic migrants but the most vulnerable of people’s. Then she says that European nations will only take a quota of Syrians and Eritreans and the rest? I agree with her example of the Nigerian girls however it’s not girls coming on these boats, it’s men. Men who are supposedly so vulnerable that they risk their lives for safety yet leave women, children,elderly and the infirm to die. They are making a complete mockery and shamble of the entire asylum seeking process. There are vulnerable people beyond the Syrians and Eritreans and those are the christians but it appears that they are not welcome in Europe. In the meantime, all countries are somehow allowed to police their borders except Italy. Navies of a dozen other European countries are plucking these people off the Libyan coast and taking then 185 miles to italy, the same countries that don’t want quotas?

  28. Jaladhi says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:19 pm

    Only a utterly stupid person get Islam wrong and think it is like any other reliogion!!!

  29. Xero_G says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    According to Mogherini, Islam must be accepted because it “holds a place in Europe’s history”. The Nazi Party also has that distinction, so why not bring back the Hitler Youth, the SS, the death camps?

  30. Buzzdroid says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    Hello Robert – thanks for posting this. I’m a UK citizen and I’m utterly shocked that this idiot is in a seriously influential position of power in the EU.

    Can I remind all your readers that the UK wi have a referendum on leaving the EU next year – I would humbly suggest that our anti jihad coalition seriously help the UK “no” campaign. It literally has come to this – if you want to help us in Britain , and to stop these proto Jihadist maniacs , please support the No campaign. The EU has turned into a pro Islamist organisation. As clearly exposed by your post.

    Well done Mr Spencer – and thank you again and again for exposing this.

    • Renee says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 7:20 pm

      Like a candybar, the politicians ate it all and tossed the wrapper to the people and the following generations. Wish all EU countries would say NO and follow Greece, UK and so on.

  31. Champ says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 3:52 pm

    “The so-called Islamic State is putting forward an unprecedented attempt to pervert Islam for justifying a wicked political and strategic project” …

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The false obama narrative is spreading like a cancer …

    Of course IS is islam. In fact, they are truly *devout* muslims.

    What, are some people under obama’s evil spell? …so it seems!

    • underbed cat says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 11:04 pm

      The deception is mind altering, to deny the very existence of the conquering, terrorizing, and slaughtering IS, money must first be spent buying the news media, extending outreach into churches and creating centers for Musliim Christian understanding., socializing and aiding politicians.., giving to charities, denying suicide bombers with martyrs for the cause…creating muslim victims, sending them abroad to populate foreign lands and having lots of children. Creating havoc, protests of racism, demanding silence, demanding compliance, prayer rugs, spreading misinformation about Israel, the U.S. and terror attacks in the U.S. and any knowledge of the connections to 9/11. So breathtaking that no one would believe it and apparently nobody does, unless they study the issue. 32 billion or so should help.

  32. KrazyKafir says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    What a magnificent buffoon

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 4:58 pm

      Yes, there is a certain awe in the multicolor panorama she presents to us, all dressed up in the modern clothes of insight and correctitude. These are the hallmarks of how globo-socialists deal in turnspeak, denial, scolding and implied threats of more government in exchange for less freedom, the unavoidable and immutable tradeoff. Like global warming, the whole tired “debate” is made atop a giant fiction.

      • KrazyKafir says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 6:48 pm

        The poster child for civilization’s demise.

      • quotha raven says

        Jul 4, 2015 at 5:16 am

        APF – Once again, the handy phrase “ethical narcissism” occurs to me…it both informs and explains the sanctimonious tone taken here by Ms Mogherini and generally describes the “new” religion of the gum-flapping Left. Cheers! Quotha R

    • Godwin says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 7:47 pm

      She spotted a guilty smile. Was she paid a handsome sum of petrodollars to say this?

  33. alyn21 says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    Obviously this lady knows nothing about Islam. Or chooses to hide her knowledge for the sake of political correctness.
    It is disturbing to think that anyone could be as stupid as she is portraying herself to be.

    • Infidel from Down Under says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 7:16 pm

      The stupid Federica would be considered nothing more than a ‘trophy’ sex slave if muslim extemists got hold of her , and when they were tired of her they would find some excuse for an honor killing

      • Godwin says

        Jul 3, 2015 at 7:36 pm

        Tired of her , they will put her into the slave market for sale.

  34. Keith Durso says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 4:52 pm

    Somewhere a village weeps.

  35. Lu says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 5:35 pm

    We may as well say that her statements should be probed in terms of a suspicion from committing act of high treason; assuming she is Italian,”Attempt with purposes of terrorism or of subversion (art.280)” is reportedly one of the possible qualifiers Italian jurisdiction recognizes as a base for treason (tradimiento).

    • tilda says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 6:31 am

      I think it’s reaching a point where treason legislation might need to come into play — and it might provide the kind of wake up call that certain people seem to need.

  36. Joseph says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    The only thing that really pisses me off about dumb twats like Federica Mogherini is that she thinks everyone believes her. The other is that people like this are FULL of themselves.
    Like I have said before, don’t piss on my back and tell me it is raining.
    OR
    If you can’t dazzle them with your brilliance, blind them with bullshit. She most certainly flings enough crap around to blind the gullible.

  37. Westman says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 5:46 pm

    Another Ignoramous and Pollyanna for the failing European Union who makes peaceful claims for European Muslims without the ability to quote Islamic doctrine to support those claims.

    If she knew Islamic doctrine she would be embarassed by her “us and them” statements because Islam divides the world to “we” Muslims and she as the “other” who is to be shunned unless she can be used for some Jihad or Da’wa. Since she is being a tool for Da’wa, she thinks her friendly Muslim relationships are genuine.

    “…What makes the difference is whether the process is democratic or not.”. Another stunningly display of ignorance; not knowing that there is no Democracy in Islam. A Dhimmi-Dummy on steroids.

    “.. There is such a contradiction between our solidarity when these girls are far away, and our lack of solidarity when they are at our door. ” Do you mean those girls groomed/raped right under your nose in the UK? Where the hell were you, Oh great High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy, when the security of these girls and community was failing?

    Of course there peaceful Muslims in Europe and there are also millions of Muslims that would not be sad to see Federica Mogherini forced into a black tent or her hair flying in the wind on a post. She is the female equivalent of Neville Chamberlain. The non-Nazi Germans were peaceful, and the majority; what went wrong?

  38. Jan says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 5:59 pm

    Islam really doesn’t “belong” anywhere except Saudi Arabia. Everywhere else that is Islamic got that way as a result of conquest.

    • Karen says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 11:48 pm

      A very excellent point….

    • gerard says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 12:36 am

      Even Arabia was conquered by Muslims. Jews and Christians were killed or driven out. Islam doesn’t belong anywhere.

    • tilda says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 6:52 am

      Interesting point. The Koran itself says (3 different translations)

      012.002
      Y: We have sent it down as an Arabic Qur’an, in order that ye may learn
      wisdom.

      P: Lo! We have revealed it, a Lecture in Arabic, that ye may understand.

      S: Surely We have revealed it– an Arabic Quran– that you may
      understand.

      Which suggests that the Koran [Qu’ran] was meant for native Arabic speakers only; it was only for the Arabs. (And that is Allah speaking.)

  39. voegelinian says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    Federica Mogherini needs to be bitch-slapped by Alessandra Mussolini.

    More broadly, I notice yet again that commenters from the amorphous pool of the Counter-Jihad movement (i.e., Jihad Watch commenters) seem to think that a Federica Mogherini is singular or something. In fact, the incoherent, politically correct multiculturalist tripe she dishes out is painfully dominant and mainstream throughout the entire West. Yes, Federica is a flamingly hard-core Leftist; but the the Leftism she purveys reflects a minority in the West. The mainstream West is PC MC, not Leftist. As such, the Western mainstream is not malevolent; only sincerely and convolutedly deluded in its Weltanschauung. And here’s the crucial point: Were it not for the PC MC mainstream, the geopolitical engineering of the front-line Leftists like Federica would not enjoy the influential traction that it does in fact enjoy.

    This is both bad news and good news: bad news in that it means the vast majjority of Westerners remain sincerely and convolutedly deluded in their grasp of the menace of Muslims — whether murderous (violent jihad) or mendacious (stealth jihad); but good news in that this sincere and convoluted delusion is not a matter of nefariously inimical opposition, but of a grievously erroneous worldview which can be deconstructed, hopefully in time before Muslims mass-murder a few million of us (and inflict wide-scale destruction of parts of our infrastructure along with dislocations of our economy).

    • KrazyKafir says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 6:54 pm

      It still boils down to the West is done, unless enough snap out of this thick PC fog. The longer it takes the more violent the awakening will be.

    • simpleton says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 7:18 pm

      incoherent, politically correct multiculturalist tripe she dishes out is painfully dominant and mainstream throughout the entire West. Yes, Federica is a flamingly hard-core Leftist; but the the Leftism she purveys reflects a minority in the West. The mainstream West is PC MC, not Leftist

      It certainly comes across to me as leftist as many “young people” from Europe (and USA for central federalist control ) are very much for the EU and do not want to hear a word about national patriotic feelings. That for me is the ownership of their country and responsibility to solve their country’s problems. Instead they are sweeping it under the mat and welcoming their salvation of inclusive EU embrace. This is very ingrained into students, (and msm) and they use all the ploys of “racism” “phobias” “inclusiveness” “poverty gap” “privilege” to defend their (leftist) points of view

      “but of a grievously erroneous worldview which can be deconstructed,”

      It is hard work to try and change one person, and takes time. Particularly doing it one by one as you meet and kindly discuss things.
      If you are being very effective or become more higher profile, then there are systems that are awakened to self defend itself that goes public as Hillary said to “name and shame” and other movements (msm) that interlink to bring on unbearable pressure.

      Still fly under the radar and keep at it to the levels that you can cope with and support others that are more active.

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 4, 2015 at 3:49 pm

        “It certainly comes across to me as leftist as many “young people” from Europe (and USA for central federalist control ) are very much for the EU…”

        And there are many more examples of seeming Leftist ideas and behaviors. The point of the category “PC MC” as distinct from Leftist is that it denotes or describes our sociopolitical situation by a Process of Elimination and an Assumption of Affirmation:

        Given that the majority of the West seems to believe in Leftist-seeming ideas, and given that Leftism is strangely irrational and self-hating, we cannot conclude that the majority of the West is this deeply neurotic (if not, indeed, psychotic — imagine a billion Stardust Psyches!). Not only do we reject that conclusion, we have had experience with innumerable Leftist-seeming individuals and we have encountered innumerable others who do not strike us as malevolent or toxic in their sociopolitical deformation; indeed, they seem relatively decent and intelligent. Therefore we assume there must be a type of person who is sorta kinda Leftist — hence my quaint qualifiers of “decaffeinated” and “sweetened with cream & sugar” to try to capture the phenomenon of a Leftism that has been diluted and made more palatable by being less deranged and fanatical — more conventional, “neo-Yuppie”, respectable, and fashionably cool.

        This has come about because of good values and virtues — respect for, and curiosity about the Other; a belief in universalism transcending tribalism; and a cultivation of self-criticism. These three virtues are good — but become deleterious when taken to excess.

        In a nutshell: PC MC basically is a vast process & enterprise of Having Your Cake (of Leftist Revolt) and Eating Too one’s dependency upon the very same system and tradition one is supposed to be in revolt against.

        • Champ says

          Jul 4, 2015 at 3:59 pm

          if not, indeed, psychotic — imagine a billion Stardust Psyches!

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Voeg, your analysis became more crystal clear upon naming *that* Clown! 😀 …he’s a prime example.

  40. R Cole says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    That’s the so-called higher ground.

    For example – the rising antisemitism is Europe is mainly Muslim driven.

    The difference here is the theory – we believe Islam to be and – and what we see in practice.

    Egypt for example elected and then threw out a political Islamic government.
    The Muslim Brotherhood party election slogan was “Islam is the solution”. There would be freedom in Egypt ~ they announced ~ to practice Islam!

    ::

    Most people across Europe – who complain about Islam – are talking about its political aspect. If Islam remained in the confines of the mosque – and its religious practise contained – then we would not be having these discussions.

    We have freedom of religion – but for Muslims – Islam should extend into politics, and include a military function ~ see jihad, as well as a country’s laws should be based upon it. [When they say all aspects of life – that is what they mean – which also stipulates their relationships with the non-Muslims – such that the norms and practices of the non-Muslims most be changed to accommodate the lives of the Muslim.]

    It is these ideas that we are at odds with.

    She says – so long as there is democracy. Yes that is right and we are choosing not to have these Islamic things – unless her plans to introduce political Islam or Islamism into the fabric of European society – include circumventing the democratic process – likely her boat has already sunk.

    Her argument is based purely on the xenophobic narrative – which is nonsense – because Muslims are not the only immigrant groups in Europe – and further it says nothing of Muslim responsibility to the values of western society [read: integration ].

    In Europe – the right of the individual is paramount – life and liberty is held above creed. Whereas political Islam – holds that the sanctity of Islam be given priority – even over life itself.

    That is the very definition of a civilizational clash.

    ::

    What is it that Islamic State does that Saudi Arabia doesn’t do?

    The current king is the son of a sex slave – his mother was a concubine taken from Yemen.

    They too behead people and leave the bodies on public display – those most affected are Muslim here too.

    Iranian courts sentence people to be thrown off the side of cliffs.

    We are being asked to play spot the difference!!

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 5:48 am

      @ R Cole – I’d only take issue with one of your points:

      “…for Muslims – Islam should extend into politics, and include a military function ~ see jihad, as well as a country’s laws should be based upon it. ”

      There is NO DISTINCTION NOR SEPARATION between “religious” and “political” in Islam. It is a theocracy and, as such “religion” EMBODIES a totalitarian political system and enabling laws. There is absolutely no separation of the two. And the objective is the expansion of that power of the Islamic State through violent and stealth jihad , not precisely the (host) “country’s laws”…Islam simply does not recognize or respect the “country” in which Islam is expanding, nor its sovereignty, individuality (except as Kuffir), laws, constitutions or customs.

      Other than this, spot on! Cheers! Quotha R

  41. Wellington says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 7:08 pm

    I can’t bother with any long assessment here, even though I was tempted to do so at first. So, here is the matter in brief: She’s a useful idiot.

    • Westman says

      Jul 3, 2015 at 10:11 pm

      Sustinct!

    • Vostro says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 9:48 am

      She belongs in a burqa.

  42. Kepha says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    Federica Mogherini, who got her political start in the youth wing of the Italian Communist Party back in 1988, ought to be expected to embrace a migration that weakens and undermines the West.

    If, thanks to her predilections, Europe gets Islamicized and, if by some fluke, Uncle Kepha finds himself in charge of refugee admissions to the USA, Mogherini is one of the people I would screen out and have her swim back home. The Left has been and remains a terrible cancer in the vitals of Western civilization. In my early childhood, the Bundesrepublik of Adenauer and Erhard allowed all those “independent Marxists” from the Mecklenburg-Thuringia salient entry, and they paid it back by fostering the likes of the Bader-Meinhof Gang. I read some history and found all this gush about the influence of the purveyors of Weimar so-called “culture” who came to the USA, and we ended up with both a softening of resolve to confront Communist totalitarianism plus the New Left, which, now that it has changed into a suit and tie, is busy dismantling our country.

    Many people here at JW marvel that the Left, despite its love of family breakdown and sexual perversion, should be so enamored of radical Islam. I marvel not at all. The Left is the West’s death wish embodied; and as such, cannot be trusted even in the position of county dogcatcher.

  43. Shooba doobs says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 10:59 pm

    So I take it that there is an agenda amongst American and European policy makers to turn the world into an Islamic Caliphate?
    What else could explain this?
    Is being rich so important to our leaders they are prepared to destroy the very Europe they grew up in?
    Don’t they know that they will be the very first to have their heads removed?

  44. pongidae rex says

    Jul 3, 2015 at 11:18 pm

    Do people who breed like rabbits, overpopulate, and destroy their homelands have an inalienable right to migrate to the homelands of people who held their populations in check to build livable societies? Once arrived, do migrants have the right to persist in the ideologies and behaviors that destroyed their homelands and made them migrants, all while being supported indefinitely by their new host nations? When half the population of an overcrowded world is legally defined as refugees fleeing catastrophe, do they all have an inalienable right to migrate to their choice of Western nations with the most generous social welfare systems to support them and their many children for life? And what are the consequences of this?

    These are the great questions of our age that no one dares ask.

  45. gerard says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 12:32 am

    She ought to go and live in Iran for a few years and then come back and tell us how wonderful Islam is. If she survives.

  46. Baucent says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 2:14 am

    Ah, another leftist fool who knows nothing about her chosen topic.
    As for her claim “Islam belongs in Europe”, many would disagree. The history of Islam’s encroachment into European lands has not been a happy one and few in the Balkans or Spain, or Greece would hold any nostalgic feelings towards that time.

    • Charli Main says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 6:20 am

      This brain dead moron has go it arse about face—— Islam does not belong to Europe—-Europe belongs to Islam. The 1400 year war to Islamise Europe appears to be entering its final stages, thanks to retards like this woman.

  47. Edward Cline says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 6:43 am

    It’s Islam, Miss Bimbo, that divides the world into “them” and “us.” Daʼesh (wasn’t that once the name of a laundry detergent?) or ISIS or the Islam State is Islam practiced in its purest form. Perhaps this blonde moron would have her eyes opened if she wandered into an ISIS camp and got the Yizidi treatment, or got kidnapped by a British Muslim rape gang. I think she’s good-looking enough that no Muslim “groomer” would turn her down. These halfwits really need a dose of the “tolerance” they recommend we practice on Muslims. Better yet, put a burqa bag over her head.

  48. duh_swami says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 7:25 am

    How old is this woman? Is she old enough to know better, but too young to resist? Is she married? To an infidel, or…?
    Her qualifications for ‘security’ seem to be about the same as the mayor of Baltimore. If it was not for her lofty position, the adults in the room would tell her to shut up and sit down…

  49. cesar says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 7:53 am

    Stupid italian girl Mogherini… With such weak, leftists alienated politicians the conquest of Europe by Islam is a question of time…

  50. Savant says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 8:09 am

    She looks like she still has a clitoris. Maybe that is the source of her madness.

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 12:01 pm

      @Savant – LOL – or at least the source of that big, goofy smile….Cheers! qr

  51. shrugger says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 8:15 am

    Europe’s Progressives* are so confident, they aren’t even pretending anymore.

    *Pronounced ‘Marxists’

  52. pongidae rex says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 8:16 am

    Do not kid yourselves. These EU bureaucrats are the new Nazis and their mindset is identical. This is mindless ideology speaking. These bureaucrats will have you believe that Europe can absorb the exploding populations of the third world and all will be well. These people do not understand the mathematical, social and economic impossibility of their vision of the future.The ability to reason and notice this basic fact has been declared unacceptable thought crimes.

  53. Lioness says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 10:23 am

    She is everything that islamists hope for. A true useful idiot who promotes the islamization of the west and the destruction of our civilization. Funny that she mentions antisemitism, which is the core belief of islam and the reason for it’s spread in Europe. I can’t wait for her to convert to Islam and wear a garbage bag on her face.

  54. righto says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 10:32 am

    She’s so right, where Islam is more of an influence and a part of us (immigration, integration) in a way that say Carthage was not in Rome, it’s much harder to maintain a contemptuous smile and distance myself too much without soon accepting that they are now a part of us.

    Next best thing is adopt an only ‘us’ attitude and kick the majority of bad Islamic ideas and over a thousand years of washed brains in the teeth. This is a challenge but will corner ‘bad’ attempts by Muslims trying to change anything we have and marginalize them and their ideas until they are forced to either undergo a internal cleanse, leave or become a terrorist which will see them deported or end up in jail.

    All this talk of political Islam being a part of us is just a way of being polite and shows how much this politician can fit in her mouth.

  55. Scott says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 11:21 am

    UK – Stay in the EU to your own peril……….
    This article is exactly why Europe soon will be finished or it will foment a Continental Civil War.

    Australia and New Zealand take care. These Islamist Eurarabia-philes will be after you next.

    On the 4th of July, we must all stand tall, for America is the worlds last best hope – yes, The Exceptional Nation – Long may she prevail.

  56. KJ says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 11:27 am

    Where’s the Pope?

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 2:58 pm

      @KJ – If I’m not mistaken, he’s hanging out on the far Left, urging Christians to embrace the Islamists. Didn’t he come out with a big “be nice to Islam” directive a couple of weeks ago? Cheers! quotha r

  57. Linda Rivera says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    The wicked woman talks about Islam in Europe and history as if it’s a good thing. Invading Muslim captured millions of Europeans for slaves and sex slaves. This is what the wicked EU witch envisions for Europe.

    Jihad Slavery in Sudan, with Dr Charles Jacobs

  58. underbed cat says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 12:34 pm

    Has anyone else read the news about the 32 billion from a particular Saudi P ? I think it is going to be delivered to the U.S. Nervous to write this, it is a huge amount going to “charities”, we are being seduced and influenced to the order of 10…so are the countries of the E.U. so maybe (outreach for understanding) the “conversion of non believers has a price tag…. She is smiling for now, until the inhumanity comes crawling in and demands are made. By that time the population will be growing and so will the permanent birth control meds that will reach the markets,….that should do it. Unless of course the many others start inquiring about some necessary facts which some call hate speech.

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 2:53 pm

      @Underbed cat –

      “…32 billion from a particular Saudi P ? I think it is going to be delivered to the U.S. Nervous to write this, it is a huge amount going to “charities”…”

      EEK! There you go again, kittykitty, messing with the roots of my hair! Now they are tingling, because I, too, have this under-reported bit of news item rattling round the back of my mind, but I hadn’t followed up. Yet. Your post pushes me to action, but believe me, the subject makes me nervous as well. Again, I am reminded of a super song by Steeleye Span, a Scottish group. The song is “Such a Parcel of Rogues in a Nation”, and it is about the Scottish Nation being sold out from under its people by its own.

      We Are There. All the best, Underbed. Thanks for the reminder. Too early in the day (here) for a whiskey…Cheers! )))Quotha R

  59. Linda Rivera says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    Alija Izetbegovic stated in the Islamic Declaration that: “there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions”.

    A briefing paper produced for Members for the 1992/3 Session of the British Parliament Monday 21 December 1992.
    http://www.balkanpeace.org/index.php?index=/content/balkans/bosnia/izetbegovic/bosi01.incl

    The EU, British and European leaders are fully aware that “there can be neither peace nor coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic social and political institutions”.

    The EU head of security might just as well have announced that they had all sold their souls to the devil.

    The EU, British, German, French and other European God-hater leaders seek to utterly destroy Christianity, Judaism, the Ten Commandments — God’s Biblical Laws and the Bible from the earth. And completely annihilate Western civilisation and the Biblical Golden Rule.

    This world doesn’t belong to them and doesn’t belong to Islam.

    This world belongs to Almighty God, the Holy One, who will show them at a future time Who it is that rules.

    Bible, Psalm 2
    Why are the nations in an uproar and the people devising a vain thing?
    The kings of the earth take their stand and the rulers take counsel together against the Lord and against His Anointed , saying, “Let us tear their fetters apart and cast away their cords from us!”

    He who sits in the heavens laughs. The Lord scoffs at them, then He will speak to them in His anger and terrify them in His fury…

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 3:09 pm

      @Linda Rivera –

      “…The EU head of security might just as well have announced that they had all sold their souls to the devil.”

      Now you’re talkin’. HOWEVER…

      “He who sits in the heavens laughs. The Lord scoffs at them, then He will speak to them in His anger and terrify them in His fury…”

      Um, not if the infallible pope has any say in the matter….Cheers! Quotha R

      p.s. Always find your posts thoughtful and informed. Keep ’em coming! Thank you.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 4, 2015 at 3:32 pm

        quotha raven posted:

        “Um, not if the infallible pope has any say in the matter….”

        I think Catholics need to be reminded that the Pope’s alleged infallibility only applies to matters of Catholic doctrine.

  60. Truth Seeker says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 1:49 pm

    What does it show? The Extent of Infiltration of Islamic Trojan Horses into the Ruling/ Administrative Machinery.
    Seems present day Europeans prefer to Bury the European Culture and Civilization.

  61. Linda Rivera says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    “There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.” – General Wesley Clark

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 4, 2015 at 3:25 pm

      @Linda Rivera –

      “There is no place in modern Europe for ethnically pure states. That’s a 19th century idea and we are trying to transition into the 21st century, and we are going to do it with multi-ethnic states.” – General Wesley Clark

      This quote inspires all kinds of response from me, but I’m afraid it would just be sputtering. It’s unclear what Wesley means: does he mean we are going to INSTALL and enforce diversity “in modern Europe”? Or just that it’s what we are already looking at? Wesley is parroting globalist, totalitarian spew, and I hate it with every fibre in me.

      The last “ethnically pure” state on earth probably ended when residents of Borneo saw their first white man in the early ’60s. What is Wesley talking about?

      He seems quite detached and arrogant in this pronouncement, whatever he means. Cheers! qr

  62. Gbox says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    “It holds a place in Europe’s history…” She is technically correct, but doesn’t know why. Constant Muslim invasions and piracy over a thousand years is a part of European history.
    Would it not be a good idea that candidates for leadership roles in government pass a history exam?

    • kay says

      Jul 7, 2015 at 3:13 pm

      Re:
      “It holds a place in Europe’s history…” She is technically correct, but doesn’t know why. Constant Muslim invasions and piracy over a thousand years is a part of European history.
      Would it not be a good idea that candidates for leadership roles in government pass a history exam?
      ———————
      Well said! Correct on both counts.

    • Derek Schmidt says

      Jul 8, 2015 at 1:54 pm

      Oh right. because the crusades never happened. because world War I never happened. because the colonization of the middle east and Persia and Africa throughout never happened. There’s no possible reason that Muslims have to feel oppressed or threatened when going through a history lesson 1000 years back.

      • Angemon says

        Jul 8, 2015 at 3:36 pm

        Derek Schmidt posted:

        “Oh right. because the crusades never happened. because world War I never happened. because the colonization of the middle east and Persia and Africa throughout never happened. There’s no possible reason that Muslims have to feel oppressed or threatened when going through a history lesson 1000 years back.”

        The crusades were a small scale, defensive response to centuries of unprovoked islamic aggression on Christians. European colonization of the Middle East, Persia and Africa was in a very small scale and time-frame when compared to the islamic colonization of those areas (let alone Europe), and it wouldn’t have taken place if muslims weren’t constantly raiding non-muslim nations and ships. As for WWI, they bet on the wrong side and lost. Big f***ing deal. So did Germany, Italy, or Japan, and you don’t see German, Italian or Japanese suicide bombers or German, Italian or Japanese groups murdering and raping while trying to create a nation of their own, despite loss of land and decades-long presence of foreign troops in their soil.

        • Derek Schmidt says

          Jul 8, 2015 at 5:02 pm

          I suppose next you’ll say the Kingdom of Jerusalem had nothing to do with it. Yes, the Muslims had territory in Europe, but the defensive action would more logically have been to focus on Anatolia or Sicily or Spain, but no. They went for Jerusalem–a holy place for Christians, Jews, and Muslims. Clearly it was an action triggered only by religion and would have taken place whether or not the Muslims had ever been invasive elsewhere. In fact the Christians and Jews there coexisted quite well with the Muslims under their government, but of course all that went to pot when the Christians decided to invade the Levant.

          And Christians were the big pirates of the Caribbean, not Muslims. The Barbary pirates may have been Muslim just as much as the Christians of the Caribbean, but surely they were no more subsidized by Islam than the Christians were subsidized by either the pope or any other head of church.

          So Gbox mentioned Muslim raiding and piracy over the last 1000 years. I’ve responded by mentioning Christian raiding and piracy. You may have specific examples of Muslim activities, and I have my examples of Christian activities. Neither side is blameless. Don’t pretend otherwise.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 8, 2015 at 9:17 pm

          Derek Schmidt posted:

          “I suppose next you’ll say the Kingdom of Jerusalem had nothing to do with it. Yes, the Muslims had territory in Europe, but the defensive action would more logically have been to focus on Anatolia or Sicily or Spain, but no. They went for Jerusalem–a holy place for Christians, Jews, and Muslims.”

          Huh, re-read what I wrote, Derek. I said that the crusades were a small scale, defensive response to centuries of unprovoked islamic aggression on Christians. That you mentioned Anatolia and Europe proves you knew about it beforehand, meaning you saw fit to leave it out. Muslims were attacking Christian pilgrims to the Holy land, and the Byzantine Emperor asked Rome for help.

          “Clearly it was an action triggered only by religion and would have taken place whether or not the Muslims had ever been invasive elsewhere. ”

          No, it clearly didn’t. Also, muslims were also invaders in the Holy land, so stop trying to pretend they weren’t.

          “In fact the Christians and Jews there coexisted quite well with the Muslims under their government, but of course all that went to pot when the Christians decided to invade the Levant.”

          Except for the Christian pilgrims being attacked by muslims. And I suspect that neither Christians and Jews were not happy living as dhimmies – being forced to wear distinctive clothing, taking in muslims for 3 days, not being able to bear arms, having to pay exorbitant taxes or else their life was forfeit, etc.

          Truth is, given the choice, muslims preferred to live in the Crusader kingdoms than in muslim-controled lands. Let that sink in for a moment. Muslims preferred to live ruled by Franks than by other muslims.

          “And Christians were the big pirates of the Caribbean, not Muslims.”

          Irrelevant.

          “The Barbary pirates may have been Muslim just as much as the Christians of the Caribbean, but surely they were no more subsidized by Islam than the Christians were subsidized by either the pope or any other head of church.”

          What Europeans called pirates were the state navy of the north african muslim realms. They routinely attacked European shores and ships because, as the ambassador of Tripoli told Thomas Jefferson:

          It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.

          “So Gbox mentioned Muslim raiding and piracy over the last 1000 years. I’ve responded by mentioning Christian raiding and piracy.”

          No, you haven’t. Like I said, the Crusades were a small-scale, defensive action after centuries of islamic aggression. As for piracy, I’d say that whatever took place in the Caribbeans is unrelated to the subject.

          “You may have specific examples of Muslim activities, and I have my examples of Christian activities. Neither side is blameless. Don’t pretend otherwise.”

          Don’t you pretend that they’re equivalent in any way or fashion. Comparing piracy in the Caribbeans with piracy in the Mediterranean Sea, implying that none of it had religious motivations? You’re either very ignorant or you think we are. Anyway, you’re backpedaling now – you started by implying that muslims attacks on Europe came as a result of the Crusades (even though they preceded it by centuries) and now you’re playing the false equivalence card. Not going to work, kid.

        • Derek Schmidt says

          Jul 8, 2015 at 9:32 pm

          Anyway, you’re backpedaling now – you started by implying that muslims attacks on Europe came as a result of the Crusades (even though they preceded it by centuries) and now you’re playing the false equivalence card.

          not sure where you get that impression. I had said neither that they were in response to the invasions nor precedent. I merely said that they did do that.

          on the point of the Caribbean I was merely saying that Christians did it to other Christians, not implying that Muslims needed to be in that equation. and even though the Barbary pirates were the state navy doesn’t matter because they weren’t the CHURCH navy. the religion is all that this is about after all. it isn’t about the Berbers.

  63. keith says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    ,,, just more politically correct rubbish! I feel sorry for Europe, land of my forebearers… Islamic fascism will destroy it, and with its own acquiescence…

  64. Champ says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    That picture of her is perfect! …Robert you have a great sense of humor 😀

  65. dante says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 6:40 pm

    This idiot and all the others like her are going to be the death of us all.

  66. Raja says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    This kind of useful persons should move to those nice nations like Pakistan, Egypt and any other Islamic nations and get a taste of their medicine(Islamic) and then preach.

    What a dumb lady !!! Satan’s very own!!!!

  67. Uncle Vladdi says

    Jul 4, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    So, this “Federica Mogherini” is the Eurabian spokesmadwoman? Sounds IRANIAN.

  68. Matthieu Baudin says

    Jul 5, 2015 at 12:03 am

    Perhaps behind Madam Mogherini’s confident persona there is also a victim to be found; someone who daily has to cope with ill informed and offensive opinions that clash with her progressive world view. Maybe my first impression of her was mistaken; I took her to be a lazy, whining, overpaid European bureaucrat, swaning around safe social circles while avoiding the back-blocks of the large cities of Europe where todays Islamic Ghettos are consolidating. How appearances can be deceptive.

  69. bewick says

    Jul 5, 2015 at 8:33 am

    The EU’s use of the title “high representative” always makes me laugh and puts me in mind of the Gilbert and Sullivan satirical operettas. No doubt appeals to the arrogance of the inadequate and unqualified people (such as Cathy Ashton) appointed to such positions.

  70. kay says

    Jul 7, 2015 at 3:16 pm

    She supports Political Islam. That means she REALLY supports Islamic Sharia. That means she really wants to bring down freedom of speech and freedom of thought.
    Here’s what the Europeans would get:

    Sharia Law 101 – the essential statistics
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYHGDBC19qo
    25,123
    Published on Oct 20, 2014
    What would life be like under Sharia Law? Is any of it compatible with the West? We can answer that by examining the results Sharia Law has got and continues to get. The video provides you with many Facts about Sharia Law and has collected these from very reputable sources. Directed to Westerners, the video examines the results of Sharia Law by zoning in on different areas of life under Sharia Law. These results are in very stark contrast to what we here in the West get. Our western ancestors have taken a different path so we can now enjoy a far higher level of equality and quality of life.

    • Derek Schmidt says

      Jul 8, 2015 at 1:57 pm

      let’s see a quote where she acknowledges sharia as part of what she’s promoting. I’d posit that she’s promoting more discussion and input.

      • kay says

        Jul 14, 2015 at 2:30 pm

        Re Derek Schmidt:
        “let’s see a quote where she acknowledges sharia as part of what she’s promoting. I’d posit that she’s promoting more discussion and input.”

        Apparently you didn’t read ( or understand ) this very clear and straightforward short article. This is what the chick said, officially:
        ““I am not afraid to say that political Islam should be part of the picture.”
        POLITICAL Islam, as opposed to religious Islam, is a fascist theocratic system in which Christians and Jews are ( at best ) second or third class citizens, and others ( like Hindus and Buddhists ) do not have the right to live. And in which no one can leave Islam, including those “born into it”. That is fascism and it is supported by the death sentence of Sharia Law.
        Political Islam governs a society and supports slavery and denies fair trial, denies freedom of speech, freedom of belief, and freedom of assembly.
        Political Islam is a legal and social order, and it is well defined and very clear in both principles and applications. Political Islam is also jihad. So, if Europe went full political Islam, then they’d have to go forward with the global jihad program and make war against the kafir states United States and Australia. I think for the time being they will be happy to crush freedom of speech as a basis step.
        I have just given the references on this thread to Dr. Bill Warner. But for purposes of completeness I will post them again here to this thread branch. Because some people don’t get the picture yet and I never lose an opportunity to break the false narrative of collaborationism, appeasement and acquiescence.
        There is no middle ground. There is only submission, dhimmitude, or the fight for basic human rights and equality under the law,. The latter entails complete rejection of Islam and complete rejection of Political Islam and complete rejection of Sharia. And once again, here is why:
        http://www.politicalislam.com/the-study-of-political-islam-2/
        http://www.politicalislam.com/product/sharia-law-for-non-muslims-2/
        http://www.politicalislam.com/about/
        That is the input that shows Derek Schmidt and any others how to get to square one. I rest my case with yet another decisive formal statement of evidence before the court of social opinion. These are the tools we need to win the public, so let’s broadcast them everywhere.
        This is war, and we cannot afford to lose this war. The weapons are understanding and reason and communication. Without these weapons we will surely lose over time, by degrees. Success is the opposite of failure.
        Albert Camus said “We have nothing to lose but everything, so let us begin.”
        And I have already given the references to the Andrew Bostom books. You need to read those, Derek Schmidt. Then you will have a clue. ‘Nuff said!

        • quotha raven says

          Jul 15, 2015 at 1:23 am

          to Kay – Your post is lucid, compelling, direct and VERY clear. I try to say some of what you’ve said, but your presentation is more comprehensive and concise than I can be; I can’t write as well as you. Well done! I agree with every word, and the theocratic aspect of Islam is one of my hobby horses, if you will. Thanks v much for your powerful post. Again: well done! Cheers – quotha r

  71. b. gast says

    Jul 14, 2015 at 7:03 am

    We have a moron woman jihadist as the head of foreign affairs. She says if political Islam is instored in a democratic way, it is good. She is a complete lunatic. So if jihadists will be in the majority we have to follow them. What a dangerous woman.

    • quotha raven says

      Jul 14, 2015 at 1:02 pm

      Tp B GAST -Democracy is not always a pretty thing…just take a look at Greece. That is why our forefathers fashioned a republic here in USA…but most (misinformed) citizens are perfectly content to see democracy destroy that very republic. Cheers! quotha r

      • kay says

        Jul 14, 2015 at 2:06 pm

        Re B. Gast:
        “We have a moron woman jihadist as the head of foreign affairs… So if jihadists will be in the majority we have to follow them. What a dangerous woman.”

        Is this statement reasonable? Yes. Federica Mogherini is a jihadist. She expressly wants to bring in ( more ) POLITICAL ISLAM to ALL of Europe. One does not need assault rifles or bombs to be a jihadist. Federica Mogherini is much much more dangerous to Europe and to western civilization than a whole wrecking crew of armed bloodthirsty Islamic State jihadis.
        So, yes, Federica Mogherini is a most dangerous woman for Europe and for western civilization. She wants to legitimize fascist Sharia Law ( a.k.a. ) classical Islam as part of the POLITICAL structure of Europe OVERALL.
        Yeah, I’d say that’s pretty terrifying, since this Marxist jihadi-collaborator chick is the the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security! That’s like being a chief of police who works for the Mafia, only much much worse. Islamic State and the currently surging Salafist jihadi movement is much much worse than anything the Sicilian Mafia could ever dream up.

        Clearly, Federica Mogherini is a traitor to western civilization and to the basic principles of free thought, free speech and free assembly, which Sharia religious law vehemently and fiercely oppose ( see below ). And anyone else who supports her and Political Islam. Because we all know what Political Islam really is.

        Dr. Bill Warner laid it out. Here is the real story:
        http://www.politicalislam.com/the-study-of-political-islam-2/

        http://www.politicalislam.com/product/sharia-law-for-non-muslims-2/

        http://www.politicalislam.com/about/

        This is pure fascism, theological fascism. The kind the Europeans spent much blood to keep out. Now there is a new war for the future of Europe, based on cultural jihad and counter-jihad. This war is waged primarily in terms of social media. Dr. Bill Warner and others provide resources for counter-jihad, and I promote those resources for people on three continents.

        This Islamofascist-collaborator chick Federica Mogherini is one of the greatest threats to Europe overall. Hitler and Stalin were very bad for Europe, but Mogherini is supporting something even worse and more virulent than National Socialism and Marxist-Leninism. The risk here is absolutely enormous. Europe has to wake up as a group of people who defend human rights and self-determination. Europeans must decide to defend basic principles of the open society and civilization. They must decide to defeat Political Islam, and remove the traitors from government.
        I will of course write her up and publicize her completely anti-social traitorous agenda. A lot. Saving western civilization – or at least trying – is a Very Cool Thing To Do.

        • quotha raven says

          Jul 15, 2015 at 7:53 pm

          to Kay – Thank you for both your posts re Federica Mogherini and for the links you provided. I just got to looking at those links, and the Dr Bill Warner interview is a clear and compelling recap of theocratic/political Islam. I recommend it to all JW readers, even if they already know a lot. Warner covers some material that is new to me – the dualistic nature of the fundamentals in the Qur’an, dualistic logic and the difference between that duality and the West’s “golden rule” and how we westerners are myopic…and why. Most edifying. Cheers! quotha r

        • kay says

          Jul 16, 2015 at 3:17 pm

          Re Q.R. “to Kay – Thank you for both your posts re Federica Mogherini and for the links you provided.”

          I push Dr. Bill Warner a LOT. I push Dr. Andrew Bostom’s jihad books a LOT.
          If I push those references and Jihad Watch out many times to the public, then I am making a real contribution.
          I’ve posted Andrew Bostom links on youtube videos, and I have defended Bill Warner videos on youtube with Andrew Bostom. This works well to break the Islamist narrative and appeaser narrative.
          It’s kinda fun.
          Gotta win in the social media space. Over and over and over again.
          It’s repetitive but it is of highest importance.
          Amazon should give me a percentage. I push a lot of counter-jihad books.
          I wish we had a whole crew of people pushing Bostom and Warner and Clare Lopez ( Q Society videos ) and Dr. Wafa Sultan, especially on youtube comments.
          But I have gotten a lot done by myself. It’s my own bootstrap strategy for counter-jihad, and I think it works.
          What makes a huge difference in counter-jihad is when somebody says Thank You, as here, and/ or when there is another good guy working with you on some thread.
          Good compelling references and some support in the public arena break the bad guy narrative and build the good guy narrative.
          I do not know haw many people I have brought to Jihad Watch in the last 16 months or so, but I do know this: when I push some music videos, their view counts can jump 30% or even 100% in a matter of months.
          Therefore I really expect that I HAVE brought a lot of people to Jihad Watch and other good counter-jihad resources.
          This is called “solving the last mile problem”.
          And your thank you means a lot. It shows I connected.
          It turns out I have a lot of passive readership where I do massive outreach. People read but they don’t respond. But they ARE reading. It can be very very hard to quantify. I do wish I knew the ratio by which Jihad Watch readership ( page views ) went up in the last 16 months. I really would like to take significant credit for that, but except for Youtube and my own article listings, it’s impossible to know.
          Anyway, there is concrete evidence that my strategy really works, that I have real social media traction, so I intend to continue. And I will massively hammer and excoriate Mogherini in Italy and Europe and so forth.
          Using the same strategy and resources I always use.
          If it were not for Jihad Watch I would not have learned about Mogherini. Jihad Watch really is critically important. As are the website for Religion of Peace and Clare Lopez.
          We have the honest story and the big picture, it is very important and we can communicate it broadly.
          I know much good can be done and that we can make the collaborationists ( like Ben Affleck and the evil CNN anchors like Chris Cuomo and Alisyn Camerota ) extremely uncomfortable.
          So basically hammering on the collaborationists is key to the strategy. And once you have the key resources, that is very doable by yourself or anyone. This is a real grass-roots campaign.
          And when they went for Charlie Hebdo in Paris the evil orcs and Mordor made a lifelong fierce enemy out of me.
          I just want to crush evil and hatred and dishonesty and oppression and sociopathy and and psychopathy.
          I just want to crush Islamism.
          As the Glee saying goes: “Being part of something special makes you special.”

  72. b. gast says

    Sep 21, 2015 at 4:58 am

    She wants to have more political Islam, sharia, to unite the West with Muslims. But Sharia divides non-muslims from muslims. It contains the most discriminating apartheids policies ever and it gives supreme power to muslims over non-muslims. So she wants to introduce islamic discrimination and apartheid to unite muslims and non muslims. This woman is a dangerous sociopatic lunatic.. Above she violates the separation of religion and state, she should be sacked immediately.

    • kay says

      Sep 21, 2015 at 5:06 pm

      Re: “She wants to have more political Islam, sharia, to unite the West with Muslims. But Sharia divides non-muslims from muslims.”
      —————————–
      TRUTH.

      And look how bad things are getting in Germany. Please share this in all languages.

      Germany: Migrants’ Rape Epidemic
      by Soeren Kern
      September 18, 2015 at 5:00 am
      http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/migrants-rape-germany
      —–
      I said this before, and I was proven right. It was no exaggeration. It was a very realistic expectation, now confirmed in the worst way for Germany.

      “There should be protests in the streets to remove her from office. Shame on this evil Islamist-collaborationist! People like her can destroy Europe from the top.
      Islam is based on cruelty to women, piracy and slaving and abduction. That is core strategy for jihad and it is built in to Islamic Law even today.
      Federica Mogherini SUPPORTS Political Islam, meaning cruelty to women.”

      We now have concrete reports from Germany. This is going to get very bad ,especially for girls and women.
      I have posted the Gatestone report a couple times, including once in German.
      This is a very important report for Germany, for Europe, and for western women generally.
      We have to get the relevant facts and to make these facts known very broadly. Gatestone is very important, and youtube is a good social platform for outreach.
      I have lots of traction there.

      See also
      Did Merkel just “read out Germany’s suicide note”?
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_8kc19DL70

      Jamie Glazov Moment: Our Suicide Through Blindness to Hijrah
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/09/jamie-glazov-moment-our-suicide-through-blindness-to-hijrah

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