This is the kind of article that the mainstream media churns out by the pound after every jihad attack, and there is nothing striking or unusual about this one — which is precisely why I am posting it. Mark Hall of WHTM in Harrisburg, Pennsylvania doesn’t alert his readers to the fact that he is interviewing not mainstream Sunni Muslims, but Ahmadiyya, who preach peace and are despised and persecuted as heretics by Sunnis in Pakistan and Indonesia. In Pakistan, they’re even forbidden by law to identify themselves as Muslims. Thus their views, however soothing to American Infidels, are hardly mainstream in Islam, and Hall, wittingly or unwittingly, is misleading his readers into a dangerous complacency.
Note also that the Chattanooga jihadist, Mohammad Youssuf Abdulazeez, was quite explicitly and self-consciously devout in his Islam. When therefore someone says, as here below, “unfortunately, there are a few extremists that have given Islam a bad name, but those people have no connection with the religion,” this doesn’t clear up anything. It only raises the question, left unpursued by Mark Hall, as to why and how people who so clearly wish to be devout and scrupulous in their observance of Islam, such as Abdulazeez, get their religion so wrong as to do something in its name that actually has no connection to the religion at all. This is the key question, and in the mainstream media it’s always left unanswered, and unasked.
“Local Muslims on Tennessee shootings: Islam does not teach hate,” by Mark Hall, WHTM, July 17, 2015:
HARRISBURG, Pa. (WHTM) – Members of the Hadee Mosgue took part in a prayer service on the last day of the holy month of Ramadan. Many of those in attendance have been fasting to remember those who are less fortunate.
A lot of those in attendance said they always feel the pain of innocent people killed at the hands of Islamic extremists.
Aquil Sharif was born in York County and has been a Muslim since birth. He says violence is not the answer among the true followers of Islam, but he says it happens all the time.
“Unfortunately, there are a few extremists that have given Islam a bad name,” Sharif said, “but those people have no connection with the religion.”
Sharif says as soon as he heard about the shootings in Chattanooga, he expected an attack on Islam by those who call Islam a religion of hate.
Dr. Zarar Bajwa says true followers of Islam love all people, and those who were responsible for the attacks on September 11, 2001 also hijacked the religion.
“Islam does not teach hate,” Bajwa said. “There may be some radicals, but that does not make the religion bad.”
duh_swami says
These people must be playing to an audience of fools…Islam loves everyone? Tell me another funny story Doctor…
John spielman says
yes and tell us why wahhabi’s always targets ahmadiyya’s with death as apostates from islam!
mortimer says
Ahmadis cannot speak for Sunnite Islam, just as Sunnite mullahs cannot speak for Ahmadism.
Ahmadis begin every press conference with MISREPRESENTATION, with FRAUD. They pretend they are Sunnis. Shame on them. They are practiced liars.
Ahmadis have heretical, NEW, deutero-canonical writings. Ahmadis have their own re-written Koran the flavors verses to support their heresies. The Ahmadis also have their own BRAND NEW prophets to replace Jesus and Mohammed. These BRAND NEW revelations abrogate the Koran, but they do not tell the reporters that and because most reporters have read virtually NOTHING ABOUT ISLAM, they are easily hoodwinked by Ahmadis…professional liars.
(Dr.) Sandy Kramer says
re: Mortimer. Mortimer writes: “They are practiced liars. ” Indeed. One of the tenets of Islam is “taqiyya”. Taqiyya is the doctrine that permits – nay, MANDATES – dissemblance (lying) when such mendacity is beneficial to the cause of Islam.
Great Dane says
Interesting timing of this post. Last night on one of the Fox News segments a very reasonable sounding muslim was interviewed. He said he was an Ahmadiyya muslim. I thought he was giving us a great example of taqiyya until I Googled Ahmadiyya and found that he, in fact, was speaking the truth for his particular brand of Isalm. Too bad all the other mainstream muslims consider them non muslims and they are prohibited from entering Mecca. Just a couple of small details that he and the interviewer left out.
Philip says
How do e know he wasn’t giving us an example of taqiya? Ahmadiyya is a great cover or esp. Pakistani Jihadists… Preaching Ahmadiyya while planning something entirely different… Call me paranoid or call me alive to deception in all its forms…
Peter Buckley says
“Dr. Zarar Bajwa says true followers of Islam love all people….”
Really? Allah doesn’t agree I’m afraid.
Qur’an 3:31-32—Say [O Muhammad]: If you love Allah, then follow me, Allah will love you and forgive you your faults, and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful. Say: Obey Allah and the Apostle; but if they turn back, then surely Allah does not love the unbelievers.
Qur’an 30:43-45—Then turn thy face straight to the right religion before there come from Allah the day which cannot be averted; on that day they shall become separated. Whoever disbelieves, he shall be responsible for his disbelief, and whoever does good, they prepare (good) for their own souls, that He may reward those who believe and do good out of His grace; surely He does not love the unbelievers.
Qur’an 98:6-Those who disbelieve from among the People of the Book and among the Polytheists, will be in Hell-Fire, to dwell therein (for aye). They are the worst of creatures.
Are you sure this man has read his Holy Book?
Hilarious…………..
Valentin says
All of the so called moderate muslims fall under three categories, those that don’t know Islam and aren’t really interested in it, those that think they know Islam, but really do not, and then you have these guys in Harrisburg that like to make their own fantasy Islam where rather that taking the Quran whole heartedly, they kirtsie around all the controvesial stuff because deep down they know it’s what will make people realize the devil Islam really is.
SEVE says
Quran 8:12
Sahih International
[Remember] when your Lord inspired to the angels, “I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike [them] upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.”
iSLAM IS HATE .PERIOD .
Ed says
This is a well executed PR damage campaign ready to roll out every time.
MSM loves to receive all that cash AND all the pre-packaged stories ready to be dish out.
Plus, the timing of other theme stories right after to detract attention.
For example, this weekend is CNN “Selling Children for Sex” marathon front page. Although no doubt very important, the timing is strange. They were clearly sitting on this story.
The author writes: ” Nearly 15 years ago, I wrote a series of stories called “Selling Atlanta’s Children” ”
So, where was she during the last 14?
Tequila Not Taqiyya says
It seems the more Muslim killings that happen, the better the press Islam gets. It is sick.
bobm says
Lying runs in the family of islam… their father being the father of lies.
John spielman says
yup! allah is just another name for Satan
Valentin says
My theory is that the angel that the prophet Allah thought was the angel Gabriel was actually the fallen angel satan.
Budvarakbar says
Hey the scumbag was all doped up on some bad stuff and hanging in a cave — he didn’t see anyone but satan
Valentin says
I meant to say the prophet Mohammed. If you ever get the chance to watch the hilarious film about muhammad (I forgot what it’s called) you see him being lied to by his parents and a pagan wizard, which is not totally inaccurate.
jayell says
“Extremists…have given Islam a bad name, but…have no connection with the religion”…. Really? For those of us with nothing better to do than look into the ‘Religion of Peace’, I thought that it was someone called ‘Mohammed’ who gave it a pretty awful name about 1,400 years ago. But. of course THAT had no connection wuth Islam!
Wellington says
“Islam does not teach hate.”
Stunning statement since hate is all over the place in Islam——in the Koran (e.g., Sura 60:4 which encourages hate and hostility forever by Muslims towards those who do not believe in Allah with such hate and hostility ending only when a former non-believer comes to believe in Allah only); in the ahadith (e.g., Bukhari 4.52.220 where Mohammed himself says he has been made victorious with terror); and in the Sira (e.g., Ibn Ishaq 515 which narrates how Mohammed had a fire built upon a man’s chest so that he might reveal where some treasure was hidden and when he {Kinana} didn’t Mohammed had him beheaded).
Maintaining that Islam does not teach hate is as ludicrous as asserting that Hitler did not hate Jews.
Great Dane says
I sent the following to Eric Hall at WHTM. Thank you Robert for the end quote. Doubt I’ll receive a response.
Dear Mr Hall,
It would have been nice had you done some homework prior to airing your segment on “peaceful Muslims” The group that you interviewed are, in fact, peaceful and belong to a branch of Islam that was founded in 1889. Unfortunately they are shunned by mainstream Muslims. The largest population of them is in Pakistan where Ahmadis have have been officially declared to be non-Muslims as they do not regard the Prophet Muhammad to be the final prophet. In other Muslim countries they are resecuted and considered “kafirs”, or infidels, and in Saudi Arabia they are forbidden entrance to Mecca. It is thus disingenuous to present their views as representative of the greater Muslim community as a whole. I hope this was an honest oversight on your part rather than an effort to divert attention away from the discussion that our leaders so vigorously are avoiding, namely “why and how people who so clearly wish to be devout and scrupulous in their observance of Islam, such as Abdulazeez, get their religion so wrong as to do something in its name that actually has no connection to the religion at all. This is the key question, and in the mainstream media it’s always left unanswered, and unasked”
Cecilia Ellis says
Great Dane, what an excellent letter! Powerful! Please keep us posted on any response . . . although we might all not hold our breaths . . .
Michael Copeland says
“Islam does not teach hate”, says Zarar Bajwa.
Memo for Mark Hall: actually (a) it does, and (b) it authorises muslims to lie.
“between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone”
is the “excellent pattern” praised in Koran 60:4, part of Islamic law.
See “Islam Instructs Hatred: Muslims Speak” st LibertyGB:
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/5968-islam-instructs-hatred-muslims-speak
Don Foss says
These words are nothing but grass for mindless sheep to munch on; people too lazy to go directly to the sources – the Qur’an, Hadiths and laws – to learn for themselves. Bajwa knows most Americans are intellectually lazy.
wildjew says
OT:
There are litmus test issues for me in this post-9/11 world. When a candidate (like Bush, Romney, Christie, Trump, etc.) show any sympathy for the global jihad, for Islam, shariah, etc., it is a red flag. Why wasn’t Trump a red flag for Ben Shapiro (Breitbart), Mark Levin, Rush Limbaugh, etc.? I will tell you why. They have issues like securing the southern border (which is very important) that “trump” the global jihad.
‘Trump attacks McCain’s record as war hero, draws rebuke from GOP presidential field’ (Fox News)
McCain isn’t much of a conservative; he needs to retire but attacking his military service is a big mistake.
Mgoldberg says
The self deception disorder that Islam affects it from top to bottom.
Those who are committed to never critiquing let alone criticizing Islam
Must forever either tell themselves a story or, if they are devout must lie
To all others in order to avoid being swallowed by a story whose they can never comprehend
mgoldberg says
my apologies for not spell and grammar checking my post.
‘The self deception disorder that (is) Islam, affects it from top to bottom
‘Those who are committed to never critiquing, let alone criticizing Islam,
Must forever either tell themselves a story or, if they are devout must lie
To all others in order to avoid being swallowed by a story (whose details), they cannot criticize, they can (never understand and which they can) never comprehend, except as a lie.
Angemon says
I agree with this. A religion should be judged by what it preaches, not by of what someone does on its name. And islam, to quote Sam Harris, is “the motherlode of bad ideas”.
underbed cat says
I agree. The Sam Harris quote was great, he “unwrapped” it well.
Huck Folder says
motherflode?
Jaladhi says
Oh really, why are calling them extremists just as our government calls them – they are jihadis and are only following what their ideal man Mo/allah has practiced. How can you say they are not Muslims. Maybe you guys should go back and read Quran and Hadiths again to find out real Islam. No wonder real Muslims don’t even recognize you as Muslims – in case you don’t know – they call you apostates. Find out what Pakistan calls you guys?? You guys are living in a la, la land – all I can say is you are wannabe Muslims and don’t speak for them!
Ahmadiyas are outcasts of Islam!!
Veacous_one says
“Islam does not teach hate,” Bajwa said…….bwahahahahahahaha!!!
Champ says
“Extremists…have given Islam a bad name, but…have no connection with the religion”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Webster’s ought to add this nonsense as an example to define the word: LIE
Budvarakbar says
Or Bush’s: “Islam is a religion of peace”
jewdog says
Islam loves everyone. And I’m the Easter Bunny.
Western Canadian says
But I thought you were Jewish???
Huck Folder says
Jewish Easter Bunny,
call me Jeb.
RonaldB says
Ahmadiyyas are peaceful, cuddly, warm, fuzzy, safe….
Ah, there are a couple of problems with that.
In 1947-48, the head of the Ahmadiyya sect called for a general jihad against Israel, the upstart Jews. Yes, he used the word “jihad”. The head of the peaceful Ahmadiyyas called for a jihad against the upstart Jews:
” the speaker has urged them to organize themselves to with-stand the onsets of the Zionist criminals who are being supported by the United States and Communist Russia in pursuance of their interests and special purposes. He has asked the Muslims not to display weakness or distress, but to keep in mind their obligations of Jihad for the upholding of Islam and Muslims.”
https://www.alislam.org/books/truth/israel.html
And the peaceful, peaceful Ahmadiyyas…it was an Ahmadiyya, Abdus Salaam, a nobel prize winner in nuclear physics, that was responsible for the development of the nuclear bomb in Pakistan. Now, the Indian army can clean up the Pakistani army six ways from Sunday, but because of the nuclear weapons in Pakistan, the Indian army had to sit on its hands while the Pakistani army all but openly sponsored waves of terrorists infiltrating Kashmir and India (Mumbai). Of course, Pakistan denies the Muslimhood of Abdus Salaam, but the Ahmadiyya are past masters at carrying the water of Muslims and getting kicked in return. They continue to carry the water.
The “mainstream” Muslims and Ahmadiyyas see eye to eye on many issues:
“For the first time in ISNA’s recent history — possibly ever — an Ahmadi Muslim spoke at the ISNA conference. I presented my book, EXTREMIST, which responds in detail to the malicious and ignorant allegations by Islamophobes against our Master Prophet Muhammad.”
“Additionally, I expect that this event will demonstrate how much we all actually have in common, both dogmatically and logistically. Sectarian differences aside, we all must stand together to combat Islamophobia, correct misconceptions of Islam, promote religious freedom, and work in service to humanity. ”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/qasim-rashid/why-i-did-not-boycott-the_b_5754504.html
Yes, the most serious issue and common enemy of Sunni, Shi’a, and Ahmadiyya alike: Islamophobia. From the mouth of a prominent Ahmadiyya.
Right now, the White House stands by their infamous 2011 memo forbidding any mention of Islam in counter-terror training classes. You can be sure the peaceful Ahmadiyya put their full political weight behind the Muslim Brotherhood-affiliated groups, CAIR, ISNA and the others, in maintaining pressure on the White House and the military and security, to continue their ban on tying Islamic doctrine to terror or subversion.
Actually, the Muslim Brotherhood is currently engaged in full-blown “stealth jihad”, which is not really that much different from the “peaceful” strategy of the Ahmadiyyas.
RG says
@RonaldB. WOW! EXCELLENT POST!!! And THANKS!!!
George S. says
Yes. WOW! excellent post. It gives me many pointers for new research and reading. Excellent!
RG says
Pray tell, how do you reform a misogynistic, blood-thirsty, pedophilic, marauding, thieving, raping, murdering ‘religious’ system founded by a pathological liar who claimed to be “second to God”???? Oh, I know, you say, but, but, but, we believe in Jesus! REALLY?!? So that makes you…. wait, ahhh, oh, ahhh, CHRISTIAN? No, no, no, we’re Chrislams! PUKE!!!!!
YA CAN’T PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG – unless, of course, you happen to be A PIG YOURSELF!!!!! Ahmadiyya INDEED…..PUKE, PUKE!!!!!
Ray Lanfear says
How many more attacks will it take until America gets the message?4 Marines and one sailor are dead, as a direct result of the Mosques, Islam and the Quran what more is there to know?Have studied Islam and the Quran for several years now, have been inside Mosques and spoken to their Inmans. Let there be no mistake about it. Islam, from its beginning, has been a religion of the sword. The concept of Holy War (Jihad) mandated by Allah, requires all of Islam to completely subdue the earth through military and violent conquest. The Quran says it all. When will America wake up? One sad sick religion. They place a premium on death versus life. They will never grasp the concept of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness on earth. Women are treated as a sub class under Islam with no rights at all. They will never adapt to our customs and culture but rather want to force Islam and Sharia upon the World.. And if they can take a Jew, Christian or infidel to their death along with them, they view it as an honor. Like it or not, politcally correct or not, we are at War with Islam. And until America recognizes that fact, more tragic deaths will result. Sharia law will continue to expand. . Mosques are hiding places for terrorists and we have 3400 plus in America. Read the truth here about Islam and the Quran and Sharia. Get a copy of “heretic” by Ayaan Hirsi Ali. a former Muslim that speaks from experience.. Violence is inherit in Islam. it is not a religion of peace. When they are praying 5 times per day they are praying for death to Jews Christians and infidels and most people are clueless. The threat is real folks. Read the book now and get the real truth. Also google “theprojectmuslimbrotherhood” and see their plan to destroy America from within. Again read the book “Heretic” a must read for all America, for truth about Islam.
ECAW says
If you have read Ayaan Hirsi Ali’s “Heretic” then you have the advantage over me. I just read the essay from it which she published when it came out and was dismayed that she has downgraded herself from an infidel (a non-believer) to a heretic (a believer with a non-mainstream interpretation).
From memory, she talked of Meccan Muslims and Medinan Muslims. How did she justify picking and choosing like that – I can’t remember but do remember not being impressed. She is not the first of course. Mahmoud Taha managed to persuade himself of the same view, and look what happened to him:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Mohammed_Taha
ruth says
Has it never dawn on anyone that the muslim lands in the m.e. were once Christian lands before mohammed’s hordes stole them and killed all who would not bow to the allah beast..or pay the tax….
Anthony says
The jidhadist quoted the koran, the peaceful moslem also quoted from the same koran, so koran is indeed a very confusing holy book, may be the moslem has to start questioning their own holy book ????? But Mo said in the koran that you can’t question if that will bring doubt, so moslem is pretty much victim to this circular reasoning. Poor moslem, we should pray for them !
Valentin says
Yes let’s pray that mosley may find the right way to serve the true God rather than being stuck in his intellectual loopdiloop of Islam.
don vito says
The ahmadiyya piggyback off moalla their prophet.
No Fear says
So…. jew killer Mohammed and his gang of trading-caravan raiders “have no connection” with Islam.
At what point did Islam become a religion of peace because it certainly never started out as one….
Max Publius says
Ahmadis, like some Palestinian Christians, are besieged folks pathetically trying–despite the futility–to get into the good graces of actual Muslims, who reject them at every opportunity, with the exception of when Ahmadis tell actual non-Muslims lies about Islam.
Philip says
Yes, I live in Surrey UK and we have an Ahmidiyya Centre near us. I mean deepest Surrey is about as Conservative English as you can get yet we have an Islamic Centre here, and a mosque up the road in Woking. Yet for instance the Conservative Jewish synagogue in Guildford is like a ‘shack’ and the Reform synagogue in Weybridge isn’t much bigger. I’ve seen the Ahmiddiyya Centre only from GE. Its quite big like a small estate. However ‘peaceful’ these Ahmidiyya guys are they have money. Don’t know where from. Apart from that hey are completely patriarchal; none of their website photos show women. I think they are Pakistani in origin. I’ve seen the odd hijab type attire in Haslemere where I live, but once in our local Tesco I saw a Moslem woman in the full Wahhabi style covering head to toe. I won’t say on a public website what I felt like doing… it wasn’t sexual but it would have entailed her journeying to Paradise on a one way ticket… Any Moslem Centre can hide Jihadis. Infiltration is their trademark. They are all into making Dar ul Harb into Dar ul Islam. And with the help of idiots like this interviewer they are succeeding.
Aton says
Oh brilliant, he interviews a heretic Apostate from Islam, and says Islam is peacefull.
You really could not make this up.
Kasey says
Maybe little connection with the minute appendix of religion attached to Islam, but a massive amount of involvement from its discriminatory, supermicist, violent and lethal ideology , well explained as directives straight from allah as printed in the Koran and other Islamic reference books used for indoctrinatiom of all Muslims.
duh_swami says
It all started a long time ago in a cave, when the demon ‘pressed’ Mahound three times, and Mahound caved in.
One thing I hate is to be ‘pressed’ by a demon. The first time I’m ‘pressed’ I say ‘stop it’, the second time I’m ‘pressed’ I say, ‘don’t do that again’. The third time I’m pressed, I kick the demons ass…had Mahound done that there would be no Islam today..
underbed cat says
This article hits close to home. A very dear person living in Harrisburg PA. area, who worked with the Navy, said to me, after my alerts to him to be cautious, “don’t worry Isis in not in P.A..” I sputtered out don’t s@#$ yourself, ashamed of my comment, but it just came out. This even after the first Naval base gunman attack. So now, I understand that his area has been highly influenced thru liberal political correctness used by the Imams at the mosque to deceive and worst thru the diversity and political correctness of the military. On top of that another family member took a trip went to Italy…..so now that the FBI Director Woosely not sure of spelling, came on the news to talk about their problems with Isis threats and the calls from Isis to like minded in the U.S, with threats to the military, it was a relief. Hope he is listening, he must have watched the news about the disgusting attacks in Chattanooga..and made the connection of what is happening.
sidney penny says
“This is the key question”
Thanks Robert for raising this time and time again and after a while hope that the President will also ask this
Shane says
Muhammad, the Koran, and the Hadiths give Islam a bad name. Old Mo was a warlord, murderer, liar, rapist, womanizer, pedophile, and a slave trader, and he did all of these vile things while he was considered to be the prophet of Islam. Muhammad’s Allah seems to me to more like a god of war than a loving god, and Muhammad was Allah’s first Warlord.
john phillip says
Please state ONE text in the QURAN or HADITH, that says that he was a rapist, liar and slave trader. As for pedophilia, that was normal for non muslims to at that time, one quick question, why didnt enemies of his critisize him for pedophilia ? cuz that wasnt big deal at the time. Lol
sidney penny says
“but Ahmadiyya, who preach peace and are despised and persecuted as heretics by Sunnis in Pakistan and Indonesia.”
AND Saudi Arabia
Huck Folder says
And deservedly so.
Two-faced HYPOCRITES.
Holier than thou water-carriers.
If you meet one, test them:
“What do you think of the Banu Qurayza?
“Oh they got what they deserved,
mo was right.”
800 males murdered in cold blood.
Some as young as 10 or 11.
Some as old as 70.
All others subject to physical and sexual slavery,
or sold as chattels.
20% of the top to chief bandit mo.
Jay Boo says
“Chain. Chain, chain — Chain of fools”
George S. says
Thanks, Robert, for this article analysis. It’s mind-boggling how the MSM continually comes out with apologies for the Death Cult. Camoron, the leader of the UK, does the same thing – “Oh, but they are not representatives of islam, they have hijacked it for their evil purpose.” What a moron… or is he? I wonder how many millions of £s he is getting paid into a secret Bank Account somewhere by the House of Saud and the OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation) to pass laws making it a hate crime if you criticize the Death Cult.
Quote >>” “Islam does not teach hate,” Bajwa said. “There may be some radicals, but that does not make the religion bad.” ” by this Dr. Zarar Bajwa (I wonder which diploma postal mill he got his “Dr.” from?).
Lies, lies and more lies – all Taqqiyah. “Islam does not teach hate…” What?? What?? The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called ‘hypocrites’ and warned that Allah will send them to Hell if they do not join the slaughter. (From TROP, thanks).
“About sixty-one percent (yes, 61% or nearly 2/3) of the contents of the Koran are found to speak ill of the unbelievers or call for their violent conquest;..” Dr. Moorthy Muthuswamy.
And ALL muzzies hear the same lessons about how, where and why to kill infidels, EVERY Friday from their uneducated mullahs, imams, clerics or whatever at their mosques. ALL muzzies hear the call to murder, pillage and rape, every Friday at their Death Cult prayer gatherings. No wonder they get so lathered up on Fridays and wreak havoc and warre in some God-forsaken islam hell-hole every week.
It’s really tiring to hear the excuse again, again and again – “unfortunately, there are a few extremists that have given Islam a bad name, but those people have no connection with the religion,”… lies, lies and more lies.. all Taqqiyah. There are NO moderate muzzies, not one. They all follow the same deranged Moon God.
Concerned says
Actually, I think that there are moderate Muslims, but they are ignorant of what Islam teaches. If these self-proclaimed moderates understood Islam, and if they had consciences, they would either leave Islam or become “radicals” (real Muslims).
Huck Folder says
The ONLY ‘moderate’ moslems are apostates.
If confronted on this by the REAL BoH™
practicing moslems they will become IS soldiers.
KenW says
muslims with the help of our liberal media are shameless in their lies about islam. They lie to our face while putting a knife in our back. Non are to be trusted. They will say what is needed, taqiyya, to defend their ideology. islam is not a religion. If it was it would be the religion of satan,
Markku says
Islam, a religion of peace? Show where that exists. In which country that is dominated by Muslims is there peace and safety toward the infidels? Doesn’t exist. Why don’t the Muslims come out of Guantanamo peaceful since they are immersed in the Koran 24/7? Bottom line, it is a swine faith in Satan.
gary fouse says
It should also be pointed out that although the Ahmadis are persecuted in places like Pakistan, they don’t seem to want to publicize that fact while they are giving us the party line on religion of peace and the forgiving Mohammed.
A couple of years ago, a groups of them came to speak at UC Irvine from the Ahmadi mosque in Chino. I chatted with the head imam before the event started and he freely described to me how they are persecuted in Pakistan (where he was from). Once the event began, I had to pull it out of him during the q and a because he didn’t want to talk about it in front of the audience.
Jim says
you have to be kidding me, Islam gives Islam a bad name. There is one God, and his son Jesus is coming soon. He will show you real power.