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Fifty Muslim girls taken from UK to Somalia for FGM

Jul 19, 2015 3:37 pm By Robert Spencer

FGMFGM is sanctioned by Islamic law: “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) (by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the bazr ‘clitoris’ [this is called khufaadh ‘female circumcision’]).” — ‘Umdat al-Salik e4.3, translated by Mark Durie, The Third Choice, p. 64

“‘Fifty girls’ taken from UK to Somalia for FGM,” BBC, July 17, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Reports that at least 50 girls were taken from the UK to Somalia for female genital mutilation are being investigated by Scotland Yard.

Liberal Democrat peer Baroness Tonge contacted the Metropolitan Police after spotting a large group of girls on a flight from Heathrow last Saturday.

The girls were said to be aged 11 to 17 and with their mothers or grandmothers.

It comes as Bedfordshire Police secured the UK’s first FGM protection order, preventing two girls from going abroad.

The Metropolitan Police said officers from the Specialist Crime and Operations Command were investigating Lady Tonge’s report.
‘Scattering of grannies’

Speaking to the BBC, Lady Tonge said the girls spoke English and were of Somali origin.

“It was just odd,” she said. “They were young girls and mothers and a scattering of grannies.”

They were on an Ethiopian Airlines flight to Addis Ababa on 11 July and according to the Lib Dem peer transferred onto a plane to Mogadishu, the capital of Somalia….

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  1. Joseph says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    SICK!!!

    • mortimer says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      Joseph wrote: “Sick.”

      Yes, sick and ABSURD and SUPERSTITIOUS, but normative Islamic misogyny. No one knows the purpose of Islamic FGM. It has no apparent value and a number of disadvantages that reduce a woman’s quality of life and put her health at risk.

      ABSURD Islam… Mohammed says: ‘Do this.’ Mohammed says: ‘Don’t do that.’ Why? No one knows why.

      • jayell says

        Jul 20, 2015 at 5:24 am

        Because he was an arrogant, manipulative, illiterate idiot? (Apparently that’s more or less what a lot of intelligent people thought of him at the time!)

      • Jenny H says

        Jul 20, 2015 at 5:46 am

        I think the value is that women will have little, if any sexual pleasure, won’t turn into raving nymphomaniacs and dishonour the family, and won’t be able to judge whether or not the man having sex with them is any good in bed. If the men have been brought up to believe that women are 2nd or 3rd class humans, in many cases raped by the Imams in the madrassahs. If they’re taught that it’s o.k. to have sex with animals and corpses and that women are possessions who it’s o.k. to rape or beat if the women don’t want to have sex, the men are probably for the most part, very fast, unsatisfying lovers anyway. It’ll help them if the women can’t tell whether the men are any good in bed.

        • particolor says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 7:07 am

          Never once was heard “Allah !!! OH ! Allah ! Allah Yes Yes !!” from the Mohammed Bedroom !
          🙁

      • D. M. Mitchell says

        Jul 20, 2015 at 9:20 am

        The purpose is to stop a woman from enjoying sex because the Muslim men are afraid that if their slaves, er, wives enjoy sex then they might have sex with other men.

        • Don says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 5:43 pm

          Bingo. That is exactly it. Mohammed was an insecure, jealous misogynist as well as a psychopath which of course should be emulated by every Muslim male. Can you imagine what the the sex life of a Muslim woman must be like? Enduring the sexual advances of some asshole (advances which must not be rejected) who views you as lower than cattle. No clitoris so no orgasms because Allah forbid, that she might find some enjoyment and perhaps look to another man for her pleasure.

          I’d love to round up some of the leading feminists in the world, take them to Pakistan or Somalia and let them witness this barbaric practice. Maybe then they would speak up instead of cowering in the corner.

        • Oliver says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 7:41 pm

          Don, regarding your last statement.

          You seem to miss the point (or, perhaps you do not)- these ” feminists” could not give a shit less about women; women’s rights., etc. They are (for the most part) leftists who hate the western world, and what it has given them (including the freedom to be complete stupid assholes) while praising the third world, without knowing about what happens there, or the lack of rights (for all but the elite-for the most part).

          My views of what Tush calls the femnazis.

        • Oliver says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 4:09 pm

          In above comment, last line 5th word is supposed to be RUSH (L. the conservative radio talk show personality)

      • Itinerant says

        Jul 21, 2015 at 9:55 am

        Mo is an invention- a cipher to justify the behaviour of every brutal warlord that followed the creation of Islam;

        Rape women, behead their husbands and steal their property- Mo did it.

        Assassinate critics and execute prisoners- Mo did it.

        Sexually abuse children- Mo did it……ad infinitum

  2. Wellington says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:05 pm

    Sad, stupid and sexist as this is (and I as a conservative would contend that some 90% of accusations of sexism are bogus and rooted in silly victim-oriented thinking, but FGM is evidentiary of true sexism), this is still nothing but a blip in all the rot that a Western nation like the UK has to consider and deal with PRECISELY because Islam is not just another religion.

    No, it is a belief system which is destructive of human rights in a myriad of ways, such as no other religion has ever been—–a burden to all mankind, and FGM is just the tip (double entendre fully intended) of the problem here.

    • Jack says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 4:54 pm

      Further more Islam is Fascist Political Ideology that cannot coexist with any form of Democracy, and still more these miscreants have almost fourteen hundred years of ISIS like atrocities committed against the innocent. You’re right, Islam is not just another religion a good Muslim is obligated to perform Jihad whether Violent Jihad, or Stealth Jihad which is to further the goal of Islam during the Islamist’s quest for a World Caliphate. One Iranian Ayatollah laid out how this goal can be achieved in 1982 or 1983? one in particular went around the various high schools to teach what has to be done, 1.Kill all the Jews, 2.Take Jerusalem 3 Wipe out Christianity by whatever means necessary. Yes O Foolish Ones this is the religion of peace, or maybe it’s Pieces? If one is anything but a Muslim he or she is the enemy of Islam. America is being systematically destroyed within, a plan hatched long ago, Muslims are just one of the tools.

    • mortimer says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      What can the law do to stop this procedure being performed overseas?

      • tilda says

        Jul 19, 2015 at 11:44 pm

        It is an offence under UK law to take girls overseas to have this procedure performed. See The Female Genital Mutilation Act 2003 ttp://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/31/contents

        The problem is policing and enforcing the law — difficult to go around demanding to examine someone’s genitals. I’m not aware of any successful prosecutions in the UK under the anti FGM legislaton.

        The investigation reported above has the potential to become a turning point. Scotland Yard should be able to obtain a list of passengers for that plane and, if they pursue it with a bundle of [successful] prosecutions, then it will send shockwaves through certain communities in the UK.

        Laws that are not enforced effectively sanction the practice.

        • Peggy says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 1:39 am

          Like you said, who is going to consent to this sort of examination?
          The girls will be forbidden to even talk to the police let alone allow themselves to be examined by a doctor. You cannot get a court order to examine Muslim girls as this will be discrimination becaue no other community will be subjected to this. So sadly I can’t see how a western country can prosecute anyone.
          Going overseas is not proof of having any procedure done. So the only thing UK can do is make sure it doesn’t get done in the UK.
          I feel so sad for these girls. I hope the law can find it’s way to help them.

        • jayell says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 5:54 am

          So a lot of police and border security time is going to be taken up trying to monitor and track down these people? And what about the medical staff time? At a time of general spending cuts when a lot of people in the UK have serious problems already trying to see a GP and hospital A&E departments are at full stretch? So who’s going to suffer as a result? No-one actually invited any of these people to the UK – they invited themselves, quite possibly illegally. They clearly have not much idea of what the UK’s about or what UK citizenship is supposed to stand for, and the little they do understand they probably blithely ignore. They’re just here for what they can grab, which is quite a lot in financial terms, yet stats show that they (and the Somalis in particular) make little or no contribution to the economy, and certainly nothing of value to the country’s social or cultural life. They do, however, make quite a tangible contribution to the crime stats. In short, they don’t fit in, they have no intention of fitting in (or they’re too bigotted or daft to know how), and they’re just an uninvited national drag on everyone’s resources and patience. Unless they really are exceptionally stupid they should know the score as far as FGM in the UK is concerned, and if they want to disfigure their daughters they should know it’s against the laws of this country, and then that’s their and their daughter’s problem, not ours. Unless they are caught, that is, in which case they + their daughters should be thrown OUT of the UK and back to a place where they and their gruesome barbarity belongs. End of.

        • Always On Watch says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 8:16 am

          The problem is policing and enforcing the law — difficult to go around demanding to examine someone’s genitals.

          I’ve heard via the grapevine from friends who are RN’s that these cases appear from time in time in the emergency rooms — when the girls are taken there because of some other injury (car accident, incident at school, etc.).

          Not only cases in the UK but also here in the United States.

        • tilda says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 7:36 pm

          @Always On Watch

          The UK is bringing in mandatory reporting of GFM for health workers and teachers. Will be interesting to see how it goes.

          http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/teachers-and-health-workers-will-be-legally-required-to-report-fgm-under-new-law-10399197.html

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 1:43 pm

          The primary problem is that

          1) Muslims in the UK (and various parts of the West) have been increasingly doing pernicious, illegal, and seditious things

          2) Muslims are perceived to be a Brown People

          3) Because of #2, the dominant PC MC that holds nearly the entire white West in thrall by the balls compels Westerners to bend over backward to “respect” Muslims, rather than take the rational and necessary actions it would have taken, had PC MCs perceived Muslims to be a white Western people

          4) In addition, Muslims through their volatile and networking violence (and threats to make good on violence) — crominal, civil conflicts, and random unpredictable terror attacks have augmented #3 so enormously, they have become the Main Ethnic People To Be Respected — such that other non-Muslim peoples are thrown under the bus (cf. the recent story of the UK rejecting Middle Eastern Christian refugees from entering).

        • Angemon says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 8:50 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “2) Muslims are perceived to be a Brown People”

          Maybe by you. Not by regular people.

          “3) Because of #2, the dominant PC MC that holds nearly the entire white West in thrall by the balls compels Westerners to bend over backward to “respect” Muslims, rather than take the rational and necessary actions it would have taken, had PC MCs perceived Muslims to be a white Western people”

          Ah, so because “the dominant PC MC” thinks of muslims as “brown people” they let them get away with murder. Doesn’t explain why actual “brown people” who are not muslims get shafted when muslims from the same ethnicity murder them. Also doesn’t explain why a white muslim would get preferential treatment when compared to a non-white non-muslim. But, of course, you don’t offer any evidence to back your assertion – you said it, and anyone questioning it must be a “softy nougat” hellbent on “attacking” you while along all the people you went out of your way to alienate don’t jump in to defend you, as if they were supposed to be under some sort of Pavlovian conditioning.

          And it’s funny that you claim that the West (and Westerners by proxy) is “white”. Curious, very curious…

          “cf. the recent story of the UK rejecting Middle Eastern Christian refugees from entering”

          “Brown people” getting shafted when muslims from the same ethnicity murder them. You’re not really helping your “brown people” case there…

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 11:28 pm

          Quoting me —

          “2) Muslims are perceived to be a Brown People”

          — Angemon typed:

          Maybe by you. Not by regular people.

          I don’t know what Angemon means by “regular people”. If he means the majority of Westerners, the he is woefully ignorant of the mass sociopolitical, cultural, psychological phenomenon of PC MC, which precisely racializes the problem of Islam the way I described.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 6:02 am

          voegelinian posted:

          “I don’t know what Angemon means by “regular people”.”

          I mean the people who can look at someone saying “the problem is with islam, not with race or ethnicity” and conclude that they’re saying “the problem is with islam, not with race or ethnicity”, whereas you conclude that they’re avoiding linking islam with violence.

          “ which precisely racializes the problem of Islam the way I described.”

          You keep trying to propagate that idea without ever showing any sort of evidence to back it up.

          And, of course, you, in clear stardustian fashion, “cleverly” ignore the rest of my post: your idea doesn’t explain why actual “brown people” who are not muslims get shafted when muslims from the same ethnicity murder them. Also doesn’t explain why a white muslim would get preferential treatment when compared to a non-white non-muslim. But, of course, you don’t offer any evidence to back your assertion – you said it, and anyone questioning it must be a “softy nougat” hellbent on “attacking” you while along all the people you went out of your way to alienate don’t jump in to defend you, as if they were supposed to be under some sort of Pavlovian conditioning.

          And it’s funny that you claim that the West (and Westerners by proxy) is “white”. Curious, very curious…

          Also, the recent history about ME Christians being barred from entering the UK is doesn’t really help your “brown people” case there because it’s one of the cases I specifically said your theory had no explanation for: non-caucasians getting shafted when muslims from the same ethnicity murder them.

          According to your theory, this would be a “brown person”:

          http://paladin.typepad.com/files/img_2757.jpg

          and this would be a “white person”:

          http://cdn.charismanews.com/images/archives/stories/featured-news/CBN-Nabeel-Qureshi.jpg

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 6:20 am

          Here is the article I mentioned on my previous post:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/05/jeffrey-tayler-in-salon-the-left-has-islam-all-wrong

          Jeffrey Tayler says:

          “violence is an emergent property deriving from Islam’s inherently intolerant precepts and dogma. The rising number of ethnic Europeans mesmerized by Islam who set off to enroll in the ranks of ISIS attests to this”

          Whereas you conclude he’s:

          “adroitly (or ineptly) avoiding is the reasonably inferred conclusion we must draw that there is something in normative ordinary Islam that makes Muslims like ISIS“

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 3:25 pm

          “I mean the people who can look at someone saying “the problem is with islam, not with race or ethnicity” and conclude that they’re saying “the problem is with islam, not with race or ethnicity”, whereas you conclude that they’re avoiding linking islam with violence.

          Wow. Angemon seems totally oblivious to the Problem of the Problem — the problem of the Western majority remaining myopic to the primary Problem of Islam. Why are so many millions of Westerners myopic to the problem of Islam? It’s a fascinating, and very important question — indeed, it’s increasingly dire. Apparently, Angemon isn’t interested in it. He just vaguely thinks that “regular people” think like he does, gives it no more thought, then goes back to spending 70% of his time doing useful things (analyzing aspects of the primary Problem and attacking those who deserve attack (e.g., Stardusty Psyche), and 30% of his time attacking me.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 4:48 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Wow. Angemon seems totally oblivious to the Problem of the Problem”

          The Problem of the Problem of the Problem is that you often lie and misrepresent other people so you can present your “the problem of the problem” theory. Like in my post above, where you claim that someone who said that the violence in islam does not steam from culture because ethnic Europeans convert to islam and go join ISIS in fact avoided saying that the violence in islam steams from islam.

          There’s a name for when you need to misrepresent others to make your theory look valid – it’s called “being wrong”.

          “Why are so many millions of Westerners myopic to the problem of Islam? It’s a fascinating, and very important question — indeed, it’s increasingly dire.”

          And the answer, according to you, is “racism” – everyone else is a racist.

          “Apparently, Angemon isn’t interested in it.”

          Once again, lies and misrepresentation. If I weren’t interested in it I wouldn’t be wasting my time – because I know from experience you’re impervious to facts and arguments – pointing out why you’re wrong. One would think that if I consider your stance to be wrong then I must have some other explanation that I consider to be right. Not you, though – much better to try to present me as just saying you’re wrong for the sake of it. Or maybe you thought that, but you were afraid to ask – what would happen if I gave a better explanation than yours? Your ego wouldn’t stand for it.

          “He just vaguely thinks that “regular people” think like he does”

          As opposed to you thinking that regular people are self-loathing racists. Perfect foil.

          “gives it no more thought”

          I pointed out that your your idea doesn’t explain why actual “brown people” who are not muslims get shafted when muslims from the same ethnicity murder them, and it also doesn’t explain why a white muslim would get preferential treatment when compared to a non-white non-muslim. example contradicts your theory. I’d say I gave it some thought.

          “then goes back to spending 70% of his time doing useful things (analyzing aspects of the primary Problem and attacking those who deserve attack (e.g., Stardusty Psyche), and 30% of his time attacking me.”

          Where “attack” is the blanket term you use for “criticism”. Even if that weren’t the case, I’d say it was still a better usage of time, and contribution to the CJ movement, than someone who spends 50% of his time stroking his own ego, 30% running away from inconvenient questions and 20% lying about others.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 23, 2015 at 3:25 pm

          Quoting me:

          “ which precisely racializes the problem of Islam the way I described.”

          Angemon wrote:

          You keep trying to propagate that idea without ever showing any sort of evidence to back it up,

          There Angemon goes again, quoting me by leaving out crucial parts of my original quote. A fuller reproduction of my original quote shows that I wrote:

          “…he is woefully ignorant of the mass sociopolitical, cultural, psychological phenomenon of PC MC, which precisely racializes the problem of Islam the way I described.”

          Is Angemon denying that the prevailing PC MC of the West does not racialize the issue of Islam? If the mainstream doesn’t do this, why have countless members of the Counter-Jihad — from our illustrious leaders on down to the civilians of the movement — had to keep reminding the mainstream that “Islam is not a race”? Angemon chides me for not providing evidence (though, again, he lopped off too much of my quote to be fair to my point — cf. supra). That’s like standing at the foot of the Alps and asking for evidence of mountain.

          More importantly than Angemon, why are his friends and supporters letting him get away with incoherent crap like this, time and time again?.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2015 at 4:10 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “There Angemon goes again, quoting me by leaving out crucial parts of my original quote. A fuller reproduction of my original quote shows that I wrote:

          “…he is woefully ignorant of the mass sociopolitical, cultural, psychological phenomenon of PC MC, which precisely racializes the problem of Islam the way I described.””

          And that changes nothing in what I said. You keep trying to propagate that idea without ever showing any sort of evidence to back it up.

          “Is Angemon denying that the prevailing PC MC of the West does not racialize the issue of Islam?”

          If you’re 1/10th as smart as you try to make yourself to be, you should know the answer to that by now.

          “If the mainstream doesn’t do this, why have countless members of the Counter-Jihad”

          Appeal to numbers is a logical fallacy. Again, you should know better.

          “— from our illustrious leaders on down to the civilians of the movement — had to keep reminding the mainstream that “Islam is not a race”?”

          Actually, they don’t remind the mainstream of anything. They remind the talking heads, “pundits” and muslim apologists who try to shield islam from scrutiny with the magic blanket of racial animus.

          “”? Angemon chides me for not providing evidence (though, again, he lopped off too much of my quote to be fair to my point — cf. supra). That’s like standing at the foot of the Alps and asking for evidence of mountain.”

          No, it’s like you saying that we’re at the foot of the Alps when there’s plains as far as the eye can see. Of course, being the poor thinker you are, you fail to see the question you’re raising – if evidence is so plentiful, you should easily be able to provide it, not struggle and insist that evidence is plentiful. Since you seem to like analogies, try this one: you’re the emperor in new clothes, trying to convince the people saying you’re butt-naked that your clothes are luxurious and magnificent.

          “More importantly than Angemon, why are his friends and supporters letting him get away with incoherent crap like this, time and time again?”

          Ah, there it is – the voegelinian dismissal and the appeal to others. It’s always about others with you – others should step in to white-knight you for no apparent reason, others should step in and explain your opinions and PoV, others should come in and silence me so you can continue to speak unopposed, as you wrote in your blog. Maybe you should start hiring brownshirts, since your recruitment tactics don’t seem to work.

          Since you seem to have cherry-picked for response all the pieces of my post that don’t relate to the argument at hand, I’m just going to repost what I wrote previously to which you have yet to answer:

          The Problem of the Problem of the Problem is that you often lie and misrepresent other people so you can present your “the problem of the problem” theory. Like in my post above, where you claim that someone who said that the violence in islam does not steam from culture because ethnic Europeans convert to islam and go join ISIS in fact avoided saying that the violence in islam steams from islam.

          I pointed out that your your idea doesn’t explain why actual “brown people” who are not muslims get shafted when muslims from the same ethnicity murder them, and it also doesn’t explain why a white muslim would get preferential treatment when compared to a non-white non-muslim.

          Still waiting to hear from you on that one…

        • Angemon says

          Jul 23, 2015 at 4:14 pm

          Also, voeg, you can speak to me directly instead of speaking about me to someone else. Someone interested in open discussion would go “you say such and such, but…” – you know, speak directly to one’s face. However, someone with an agenda of their own, interested in misrepresenting and lying about others, would go “ah, you see, that guy says such and such” – he doesn’t talk directly to the person he’s talking about, instead he speaks to the people he’s trying to swindle.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 23, 2015 at 3:36 pm

          Allahdamned double negatives!

          I made the error of the double negative in my last post when I typed:

          “Is Angemon denying that the prevailing PC MC of the West does not racialize the issue of Islam?”

          Obviously, I meant:

          “Is Angemon denying that the prevailing PC MC of the West DOES racialize the issue of Islam?”

      • Oliver says

        Jul 21, 2015 at 6:49 pm

        Voge– you are entirely correct–in my view.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 3:30 pm

          Thanks Oliver — that makes one of you… Meanwhile, Mirren, champ, gravenimage, Wellington, and the rest of the Merry Crew of No-Nonsense Anti-islam Jihad Watchers pretend not to notice that Angemon is, on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims, attacking me. The problem is not Angemon and Phillip Jihadski; it’s the other Jihad Watchers who let them get away with defending Softness. One wonders if they are adequately processing the horrible mountain of data about Muslims that is being presented here at Jihad Watch, growing more horrible with each passing day. Somehow, they seem to be avoiding the full purport of it — else they would not stand for such defense of softness as is churned out on an almost daily basis by Angemon’s hundreds of attacks on my position (added on to Phillip Jihadski’s attacks, which have been sparse of late — perhaps he’s busy on one of his regular trips to a Muslim country for business? or pleasure?).

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 4:58 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Meanwhile, Mirren, champ, gravenimage, Wellington, and the rest of the Merry Crew of No-Nonsense Anti-islam Jihad Watchers”

          Oh, you’re talking about some of the people you insulted, misrepresented and lied about.

          “pretend not to notice that Angemon is, on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims, attacking me. The problem is not Angemon and Phillip Jihadski; it’s the other Jihad Watchers who let them get away with defending Softness.”

          Some of the users you’re bringing up spoke on it, and said – keep in mind I’m paraphrasing here – “we’re not your shield, grow up, fight your own battles and stop being an ass”.

          Let’s keep in mind that that anyone who deviates a comma from your official party line gets labeled a “softie”. If I were a betting man, I’d say that most of the regulars here consider that attempted slur to be a badge of honor.

          Now go back to making blog posts about how Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Hugh Fitzgerald, etc, are soft on islam – that was what Breivik claimed, and he was hellbent on trying to make the CJ movement look bad. Makes one wonder if you share his goals alongside his rhetoric…

        • Angemon says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 5:57 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Angemon is, on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims, attacking me”

          I was going to let this slide because I’m not really fond of knocking down people who obviously can’t defend themselves. But this is the very distiled essence of voeg, so what the heck. Let’s parse that, shall we?

          “Angemon is, on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims, attacking me”

          According to voeg, I’m “attacking him”. Am I calling him names? Lying about him? Misrepresenting him? No, I have a stance that differs from his, therefore I’m attacking him. It goes beyond what I pointed out about him claiming that any perceived criticism is an attack. No, according to voeg, the very idea that someone has different views from his own and actually stands by them – oh, the horror! – is an attack on him. This is the kind of misappropriation of words and concepts we often find on the Leftist side of the argument: catcalling is rape, the police shooting a black criminal is racism, having a different view is an attack.

          That is the logic, the form. Now for the content:

          “on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims”

          Who gets to decide what’s “softness” or not? Apparently, voeg does. And it goes like this: if you differ from his line of thought then you’re defending softness on muslims and therefore he’s entitled to call you a softie. Now, where did I defend “softness” on muslims on this argument so far? Yeah, I’m drawing a blank as well. As far as I can see, I disagreed with his assertion that a certain political and social spectrum are partial to muslims because of racism and/or self-loathing. I pointed out that his theory can’t explain the available facts and therefore, it’s wrong. Do you see me defending muslims or softness in that? Neither do I. Nor am I defending that a certain political and social spectrum considers muslims as a protected class. So the content is also wrong. But apparently, to voeg criticizing him is the same as defending muslims.

          Voeg claims that “Angemon is, on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims, attacking me“. I showed why both the form (logic) and the content are wrong. Should we go:

          a) Two wrongs make a right.

          or

          b) That can’t be right since it’s wrong on all levels.

          I say b), because Occam’s Razor.

        • Champ says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 5:18 pm

          voeg wrote:

          Meanwhile, Mirren, champ, gravenimage, Wellington, and the rest of the Merry Crew of No-Nonsense Anti-islam Jihad Watchers pretend not to notice that Angemon is, on the basis of defending his Softness on Muslims, attacking me.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          For one thing, Angemon is not “attacking” voeg …

          But of course it’s a-ok for voeg to offer up some of his own put-downs by making this mocking statement to us: “the Merry Crew of No-Nonsense Anti-islam Jihad Watchers” …another double standard, courtesy voeg.

          Stop calling us out, coward, and fight your own damn battles.

        • gravenimage says

          Jul 25, 2015 at 9:29 pm

          Voegelinan’s implication that I would never address this issue is quite inaccurate–I did so just recently. The exchange was almost identical. I don’t have the thread, but I believe this is the article I linked to:

          http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/257819/how-islam-america-became-privileged-religion-daniel-greenfield

          I think Daniel Greenfield gives a good account of the bizarre but pervasive link between religion, culture, and (perceived) race when it comes to Islam as seen by so many in the West.

  3. Angemon says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:06 pm

    Girls being taken abroad and forced to go through things punishable by British law is not exactly a new thing. I remember reading, a couple of years ago, about underage girls being taken to Pakistan, officially to visit their families, but with the intent to marry them off to their cousins or any other total stranger. Some sought to escape by placing spoons in their underwear to set off the metal detectors.

    • Ayatrollah says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 7:11 pm

      They should protect the girls. They should be looking out for it, maybe they are too busy watch the jack off who works too many hours and leaves the kids Alone too long

  4. Stephanie says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:07 pm

    Female genital mutilation is part of the Sunna of the Prophet–is Allowed (1st degree of four) in Islam Sunan Abu Dawud Book 41, Number 5251

    OT

    Today,
    “… We’re PISSED!”

  5. Stephanie says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:14 pm

    ban evil iSSlam.

    • Oliver says

      Jul 21, 2015 at 6:52 pm

      Never happen; the (old Soviet Union was entirely ruthless when it came to religion-especially Judaism, so it went underground. And survived- while not flourishing, it survived- 70 years of being illegal; persecutions, etc.

      The same would happen if any country (I don’t count Angola- there the people spent how many years killing each other? without having Muslims around) that tried to ban Islam.

  6. Noor shukairy says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:26 pm

    The image on this article ruined my day.

  7. nicu says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    They are barbarians !

    They men f*** every hole they get ( including cars ! )

    And women get taken away their sexuality ???

    I don’t get that their mothers and grandmothers let this happen !

    • Oliver says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      On another JW post, I asked- why would a woman allow and/or do thsi to her daughter.? (I think the mother did the FGM to her young daughter).

      I got several replies, mostly-it was done to them, so they were passing it along. (The gist, not the wording).

      • AnnaK says

        Jul 19, 2015 at 8:42 pm

        Jealousy ? Heaven forbid their daughters should live happier lives than they have ? Sickening, it is THEIR fault then,
        The Muslim women, they perpetuate much of their own suffering. Encourage it ! They should be the ones if in the West, using our laws to protect themselves and their families.
        I blame them even more than the men, every time.
        Different if they live in a Muslim country as they have no choice of ever standing up to the men or evils they live under

        What do they get out of it ?
        Third class citizens or less, in this life and most of them in hell in the next, according to their ” perfect example to mankind”
        Western feminist are loonies, but so are these subservient, clueless, braindead Muslim women in the West.

        • Peggy says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 1:43 am

          I am hoping that all mothers want more for their daughters than they had so I don’t think that jealous is the reason.
          Husbands force this on their wives and daughters and make the wives take the girls so it doesn’t look as bad. I would think that most of their women are scared of abuse and comply. Maybe some are crazy and brainwashed but I just can’t imagine any mother wanting something like this for their daughter, especially since they know how it feels.

        • AnnaK says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 12:11 pm

          This is how WE believe a normal woman would think, though.
          Oliver’s comment was confirming the women do it as done to them. I have seen VERY many documentaries ( because this is a cause dear to my heart as such a savage and abusive procedure it is incomprehensible ) which confirm it is women who do the cutting, and are the ones agreeing with the procedure.Many father’s have stepped in to prevent it !( from all cultures)
          Women in the West do not need to agree to this as they have a good and valid reason to tell any man why : British law !? Not in their own countries. It does not make sense, unless they feel their daughters are also not marriageable in GB or elsewhere with everything intact ?
          So many victims of FGM say THEMSELVES , that the women are the problem and it can only be wiped out when women stop it !

        • Oliver says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 4:21 pm

          Annack, I agree with your comments, as you agreed with mine. In the JW post where I first asked why women would allow this (I think the post involved a woman doing it to her daughter(s) or niece(s). The overwhelming response comments were, it was done to them, so they did it., to their daughters.

          Peggy–you are thinking like a WESTERNIZED PERSON, not a person living 1,500 years ago. (And, even then, in Judaism, women were to be treated well. (Although polygamy was often practiced).

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 21, 2015 at 1:50 pm

        The (mountain of) data indicates that Muslim women are suffering from a degree of collective Stockholm Syndrome that is unique and incomparable to any other culture on earth. This collective Stockholm Syndrome makes them hate us and enable their Muslim men, our enemies. Our #1 responsibility is to protect our societies, not wring our hands over our White Man’s Burden to save all these Brown Women (I’m channeling the logic & psychology of the typical PC MC wracked by anxious White Guilt).

        • Oliver says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 6:54 pm

          I agree. And it is not racist- as some would say (IE you use the term brown, white man’s burden, etc).

        • Angemon says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 8:53 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “The (mountain of) data indicates that Muslim women are suffering from a degree of collective Stockholm Syndrome that is unique and incomparable to any other culture on earth.”

          Or maybe, you know, they actually believe FGM is mandated by their religion because they’re indoctrinated from birth, much like the male variant.

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 11:39 pm

          Correct Oliver — it is not racist to condemn Islam and condemn Muslims for upholding Islam. But the mainstream West, beholden to PC MC, thinks it’s racist, because they racialize Muslims as non-white; and under PC MC, one cannot condemn any people or culture deemed to be “ethnic”.

          I would have thought this was common knowledge by now.

        • Oliver says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 3:55 pm

          Vog– this is back to your earlier post- re: Brown Muslims vs whites, etc.

          Back when the Boston marathon bombing FIRST HAPPENED– (I forgot who–I read it afterwards, I believe in the WALL STREET JOURNAL BLOG–‘ BEST OF THE WEB’- edited by James Toranto, but would not sear to it)–a liberal/progressive (I believe reporter/writer, not politician-but again, I could be mistaken about that) is supposed to have said (something like) “I hope that this was done by a white man (or white people)'”- the idea clearly being NON MUSLIM and NON AFRICAN AMERICANS.

          And the comment (again, I believe by Mr. Toranto)– this person could nto believe that whites could also be Muslims, .

        • voegelinian says

          Jul 22, 2015 at 4:28 pm

          Oliver,

          I remember a blatant statement like that from the mainstream news media, but not about Boston, rather about a terror plot in New York City. It was some network news reporter, I dimly recall. I wouldn’t doubt that this anxiously racialized sentiment surfaced also in the wake of the Boston Marathon attack. It’s a prevalent subtext of the ongoing Conversation (or suppression of the Conversation) about the problem of Islam out in the mainstream — a prevalent subtext to which Angemon seems happily oblivious…

  8. abad says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:47 pm

    Sick, but seeing that it’s the Somali girls in the UK (again, WHAT are Somalis doing in the UK???) is there any chance they can all stay in Somalia this time?

    • Oliver says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 6:01 pm

      I would hope so, and also that they take their countryman (countrywomen?) form the US with them.

  9. John Duffin says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    Islam is not compatible with the West in the 21st-century

    • Michael Copeland says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      “Islam has no convincing answers to the challenges of the 21st century. It is in intellectual, moral and cultural decline — a doomed religion, without self-awareness and without any options to act.”
      Hamed Abdel Samad, son of Egyptian Imam
      http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/political-scientist-hamed-abdel-samad-islam-is-like-a-drug-a-717589.html

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 21, 2015 at 3:18 pm

        Thanks for that link — Hamed Abdel Samad is an exquisite example of the “Better Cop”. For example, from the Der Spiegel interview:

        “Though highly critical of Islam, Abdel-Samad has never turned away from the faith completely.”

        [commenting on the anti-immigration and anti-Islam German politician Thilo Sarrazin:]

        Abdel-Samad: …I believe that an open debate over integration in Germany is desperately needed. But [Sarrazin’s] conclusions don’t do us any good, because they’re outdated. Germany isn’t doing itself in, but it is changing through immigration, and that’s a good thing. We should talk about the problems of living side by side, the failings of immigrants and what needs to be done for them. [emphasis added]
        …
        SPIEGEL: Perhaps you could enlighten us. You are a fierce critic of Islam, which suggests that you ought to be in the same boat with Sarrazin, who thoroughly demonizes this religion. Why isn’t that the case?

        Abdel-Samad: He believes that Islam is gaining ground everywhere. I too am critical of many aspects of Islam. But I also see that it’s on its way out. Islam doesn’t have to be demonized, but it does need to be modernized from the ground up. .
        …
        SPIEGEL: You advocate a milder form of Islam. What remains of the core of the religion?

        Abdel-Samad: My dream, in fact, is an enlightened Islam, without Sharia law and without jihad, without gender apartheid, proselytizing and the mentality of entitlement. A religion that is open to criticism and questions.

        I.e., Abdel-Samad is promoting a fantasy, an impossibility. All the reader has to do is two things:

        1) substitute “Nazism” for each time Abdel-Samad says “Islam”.

        2) then remember that Islam is a million times more dangerous than Nazism.

        Why would Abdel-Samad, an intelligent individual obviously knowledgeable and literate about Islam, be doing this? He’s either strangely, severely schizophrenic and brain-damaged; or he’s lying to us, to function as a “Better Cop” in order to try to subvert the growing nucleus of Westerners who are wising up to the standard-issue garden-variety Good Cops the Muslim world has been offering up since 911.

        There is no third explanation. Door #1 seems highly unlikely.

  10. Karen says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 5:21 pm

    They remind me of women who are inches from freedom, and could grab their child and run out the door, but are so cowed/brainwashed, they enable their tormentor instead. Add this to the rape gangs, Sharia courts (another institution to for intimidated women) and Sharia marriages with no civil license, and it’s obvious that many UK Muslins do not wish to participate in British society. Very sad, no good can come from this self-segregation.

    Immigrants to the UK should be grateful and proud that this special society has offered them a place at the table. (And while we’re at it, the British people should give a darn too. Perhaps they do…..)
    That fine society with its history of charity and fair-play, which started the abolition and suffrage movements, and which spread the enlightened principles of English law around much of the world deserves better. And so do these young girls; they deserve English justice and protection under the law.

    • particolor says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 7:24 pm

      Save it Dhimmi ! We Demand that FGM be put on the Medical FREEBIES List !
      Know Your Place ! “We are the Best of people”
      Your days of Wine and Roses are OVER !

      • Karen says

        Jul 19, 2015 at 11:57 pm

        Yes, sadly much of the West is in the proverbial hand-basket and doesn’t realize it. In fact, it got in willingly.

        Re, NHS funded FGM, yes, what would prevent it? Gotta keep buying those votes!

        • particolor says

          Jul 20, 2015 at 7:54 am

          The problem is the Muslima’s are Shit Scared of the Bearded Heathens and WILL be beaten if they Disobey !! 🙁 🙁 🙁

  11. Judi says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 5:53 pm

    This is their way of getting round the law.

  12. Ayatrollah says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    They should be able to bust the parents for child abuse. Isn’t illegal to take a child out of the country to perform unlawful acts? Throw a few of them in prison for 5 years and make sure all believer know they will catch you and what happens.

    Maybe the women have committed a felony child abuse while staying in the UK on a resident visa. If so, don’t they send them back to Somalia? Bye mom.

    • RonaldB says

      Jul 19, 2015 at 9:47 pm

      Your comment makes the most sense. These people chose to live in the UK, so they’re subject to its laws, whether they recognize it or not.

      At a minimum, they have conspiracy to commit a felony (mutilation is a felony, hopefully). Instead of simply getting turned back, they should be prosecuted and jailed, as should any adult family member involved in the planning or implementation.

      The UK should have enough respect for itself to enforce its own laws.

      • Peggy says

        Jul 20, 2015 at 1:47 am

        Agree, but how do you prove it? Just because they went overseas and I agree that chances are they did this to their girls, the law cannot prove a thing.
        Nobody is going to allow these girls to be examined.

  13. Mirren10 says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 7:15 pm

    ”Speaking to the BBC, Lady Tonge said the girls spoke English and were of Somali origin.

    “It was just odd,” she said. “They were young girls and mothers and a scattering of grannies.”

    Oh, for God’s sake.

    ”It was just odd” ??!!

    She knew, she fucking **knew**.

    That makes her **complicit**. I am so sick at heart over this. I can’t bear it. I’m sick to my my stomach.

    • ECAW says

      Jul 20, 2015 at 3:52 am

      I have to disagree with you Mirren10. She also said “it was “suspicious”, given that it was the start of the so-called “cutting season” when FGM is carried out, and she decided to raise the alarm on her return to the UK.”

      She wasn’t complicit because she reported it, and presumably told the BBC. What else could she do?

      What strikes me most about this though is that it takes the anecdotal evidence of an establishment figure to get this out. Our police and security forces, not to mention everyone who works at Heathrow, should be aware of these flights but there’s not a peep about them.

      Do our leaders care about Muslim girls being mutilated any more than non-Muslim girls being raped on an industrial scale (both of which acts find sanction in Islamic scriptures)? No, they don’t. Cameron may huff and puff to give the impression that he’s doing something but I’m sure that he and the other traitors would much rather turn a blind eye. There’s votes and his plans to make London a centre of Islamic finance to think of.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jul 20, 2015 at 10:00 am

        You’re quite right, ECAW.

        I didn’t read the article carefully enough.

  14. sidney penny says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Did the publishers get it wrong to say :Topics covered include women’s rights (including female genital mutilation);

    What, women’s rights to have FGM in Islam?

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0980722306?ie=UTF8&tag=robertspencer-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=1789&creativeASIN=0980722306

    The Third Choice provides a compelling introduction to Islam on the basis of its primary sources, the Qur’an and the life of Muhammad. Topics covered include the sharia; interpretation of the Qur’an; abrogation; women’s rights (including female genital mutilation); lawful deception (taqiyya); Muhammad’s responses to opposition; Islamic antisemitism; religious freedom; and prospects for reforming Islam.

    After this critical introduction of Islam, there follows an explanation and critique of Islam’s policy for non-Muslims living under Islamic conditions. The doctrine of the three choices (conversion, the sword, or the dhimma pact of surrender to Islam) is explained, including an analysis of the meaning of tribute payments (jizya) made by non-Muslims (dhimmis) to their Muslim conquerors. Durie describes the impact of dhimmitude on the human rights of non-Muslims in Islamic contexts around the world today, in the light of global Islamic resurgence and advancing Islamization, including pressure being exerted through the United Nations for states to conform to sharia restrictions on freedom of speech.

    The Third Choice offers indispensable keys for understanding current trends in global politics, including the widening impact of sharia revival, deterioration of human rights in Islamic societies, jihad terrorism, recurring patterns of Western appeasement, interfaith dialogue initiatives, and the increasingly fraught relationship between migrant Muslim communities in the West and their host societies.

  15. sidney penny says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    more at risk not just 50

    http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/female-genital-mutilation-is-part-of-the-sunna-of-the-prophet/#comment-1694428

    Two FGM Updates from MEMRITV. “Egyptian Villagers Explain Why They Circumcise Their Daughters”:

    First of all let me make this clear: this is not about circumcision, which, in itself is totally unnecessary and an insult against G-d and the female body. This is about Female Genital Mutilation, Â and why it spreads through Islam.

    Following are excerpts from a television program about female circumcision in Egypt, which aired on Al-Mihwar TV on May 10, 2007:

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/uk-over-22000-girls-at-risk-of-being-taken-abroad-for-female-genital-mutilation

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/female-genital-mutilation-widespread-in-iraqi-kurdistan

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/iraqi-kurdistan-considers-ban-on-female-genital-mutilation

  16. sidney penny says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    more at risk not just 50

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/07/uk-over-22000-girls-at-risk-of-being-taken-abroad-for-female-genital-mutilation

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/female-genital-mutilation-widespread-in-iraqi-kurdistan

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/06/iraqi-kurdistan-considers-ban-on-female-genital-mutilation

    http://sheikyermami.com/2007/05/female-genital-mutilation-is-part-of-the-sunna-of-the-prophet/#comment-1694428

    FEMALE GENITAL MUTILATION “IS PART OF THE SUNNA OF THE PROPHET”

    Two FGM Updates from MEMRITV. “Egyptian Villagers Explain Why They Circumcise Their Daughters”:

    First of all let me make this clear: this is not about circumcision, which, in itself is totally unnecessary and an insult against G-d and the female body. This is about Female Genital Mutilation, Â and why it spreads through Islam.

    Following are excerpts from a television program about female circumcision in Egypt, which aired on Al-Mihwar TV on May 10, 2007:

  17. Susan B says

    Jul 19, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Just came across something that is worth viewing.

    • ECAW says

      Jul 20, 2015 at 4:05 am

      Thanks, I’ve taken the link. Isn’t he being over confident about the information age though? The collapse of Islam under the weight of real information is one possible outcome but as long as the idiot classes in the West keep making excuses for “Nazism with a god” (a very good description) Muslims will not be forced to examine their vile creed.

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 21, 2015 at 3:22 pm

        Stop worrying about whether Muslims will reform or not; and redirect all energies and thought to protecting our societies from Muslims.

        Let the PC MCs indulge in fantasy thinking; one would hope and expect the Counter-Jihad is made of stiffer mettle…

        • ECAW says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 4:09 pm

          Voegeliinian – for all your obvious high regard for your own intellect, your powers of comprehension aren’t that great are they?

          I have no hope or desire for Islam to reform, in fact I’m sure it’s not possible (“this day I have perfected for you your religion” etc).

          I wish for it to die through irrelevance and the mass disgust of people, Muslim and non-Muslim, who start to examine it – just as the speaker on the clip does, it’s just that he is more optimistic than I am.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 8:57 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “Let the PC MCs indulge in fantasy thinking; one would hope and expect the Counter-Jihad is made of stiffer mettle…”

          And you think that despite spending years here complaining about how “softy” the CJ movement is, even though you had a blog dedicated solely to tell the word how “softy” people like Robert Spencer, Hugh Fitzgerald, Pamela Geller, etc, are?

  18. Laura says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 4:23 am

    And when it goes wrong there is always the NHS safety net to pick up the pieces, but what we should do is present the family of the mutilated girl with the bill for the full cost of NHS treatment.

  19. Always On Watch says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 8:02 am

    At least 50?

    God only knows what the full count is!

  20. St. Michael Defend Us says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 8:34 am

    I have not been on a plane ride in about 25 years. So, where do these “refugees” from Somalia get the money to go on plane rides?

    • Mirren10 says

      Jul 20, 2015 at 10:03 am

      ” So, where do these “refugees” from Somalia get the money to go on plane rides?”

      Take a guess at how much they’re raking in in benefits, plus *some* of the men will be working the black economy.

  21. Lioness says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 9:31 am

    Utter barbarism.

  22. Brian says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 10:39 am

    If nothing changes in another few decades they won’t have to travel anywhere, they will be able to have it done openly in the UK

    • Babuh says

      Jul 20, 2015 at 11:49 am

      They used to under labour government. I heard they had a special clinic.

  23. charleston says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 10:55 am

    who cares

    doesn;t seem to affect their fertility and, these girls when mothers, cut their daughters also

    • ECAW says

      Jul 20, 2015 at 11:00 am

      I care.

      Don’t you?

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 21, 2015 at 3:25 pm

        Ah yes; the White Man’s Burden… Kipling, pith helmet, Wilsonianism, the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius with the League of Nations; a New Beginning with the United Nations…

        All very well and good for the plight of all those non-Muslim Third Worlders. But not so for those beholden to the pernicious ideology of Islam which is endangering our societies, and the world, increasingly.

        Or haven’t you been paying attention to this metastasizing volcano of data called Jihad Watch these past few years? It is supremely nauseating when I see Counter-Jihad folks show signs of softness like this after all the SHIT Muslims have been doing, day after day, week after week, month after month, year and year, decade after decade, century after century…

        • ECAW says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 4:22 pm

          Voegelinian – so the only understandable reason to care about savagery inflicted on little girls is a concoction of white gullt and other forms of sentimental self indulgence.

          If I had been paying proper attention to Jihad Watch I would be indifferent to such things? Like you? I fear you have left your humanity behind.

        • Angemon says

          Jul 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm

          voegelinian posted:

          “It is supremely nauseating when I see Counter-Jihad folks show signs of softness like this”

          One would think that you would be used to it by now, seeing how you’ve been complaining here for years about how “softy” the CJ movement is – you even had a blog dedicated solely to tell the word how “softy” people like Robert Spencer, Hugh Fitzgerald, Pamela Geller, etc, are:

          http://jihadswatch.blogspot.com/2008/04/robert-spencer-soft-on-islam.html

      • Oliver says

        Jul 22, 2015 at 4:03 pm

        I WILL CARE AND GIVE A DAMN WHAT HAPPENS TO MUSLIMS GIRLS, WOMEN 9 AND THEIR MEN) WHEN I SEE THAT THEY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT PEOPLE OTHER THEN OTHER MUSLIMS.

        I DID NOT HEAR FROM ABOUT ONE MUSLIM WOMAN OR GIRL COMPLAINING OR SAYING ANYTHING 9OTHER THEN PERHAPS GIGLING AND LAUGHING0 WHEN THREE JEWISH TEEN BOYS WERE MURDERED BY HAMAS. OR A BABY GIRL-WITH DUAL AMEIRCAN-ISRAELI CITIZENSHIP WAS DELIBERATRLY RUN OVER–A BABY.

        BUT A TERRORIST IS KILLED, AND THE WAILS BEGIN, AND NEVER SEEM TOM END.

        SO, AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED, LET THEM ALL–MALE AND FEMALE MUSLIMS, BE MUTILATED; CARVED, SLICED AND DICED AND KILELD, AND I DON’T CARE.

        AND I WOULD HATE AND DO HATE-TO SEE TAX DOLALRS SPENT ON THEM, OR TO PROTECT THEM.

        • Oliver says

          Jul 23, 2015 at 6:10 pm

          And to add to my above comment.

          I will give a damn what some British politician or MP or whatever she is says about “poor Muslims” (my quotation marks, not her’s), and that the Somali girls spoke English WHEN AN ENGLISH MP OR POLITICIAN HAS THE BALLS (OR, IN A WOMAN’S CASE, FORTITUDE–WHICH THE BRITISH-AND MOST AMERICAN-MALE POLITICIANS ALSO LACK) CONDEMN KILLING OF RABBIS WHILE PRAYING; A RABBI IN THE STREET (FLORIDA), A BABY RUN OVER ON PURPOSE AND KILLED. CIVILIANS BEING RUN OVER. I SAID ABOVE WHEN MUSLIM GIRLS AND WOMEN SAY SOMETHING. THE SAME GOES FOR POLITICIANS. THEY ARE TOO BUSY ASS KISSING TO SAY ANYTHING TO UPSET MUSLIMS.

    • Joseph says

      Jul 20, 2015 at 2:06 pm

      @ charleston
      I also care because this is torturous and barbaric. God made man and women to intertwine and become one. The woman becomes a “machine” when this is done, Intimacy is sacrificed. The woman’s body is lovely in it’s shape, form and design, to mutilate it is and act against GOD and his perfection. What these people are doing is saying that GOD did not do a good job so man is going to fix it. So you can add another to your list of why Islam is from Satan and NOT from the one true GOD in heaven.

      Don’t bring up circumcision.either, that covers TWO things.
      1) It is a covenant between GOD and his chosen people thru Moses.
      2) They were in a desert and water for washing was at a premium.

      Why is it still practiced? #1 trumps #2.

  24. ich says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 11:33 am

    This is heart breaking

    I feel sick

    poor poor girls

  25. Lisa says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 11:39 am

    It would be interesting to know how many of these mutilators came to Europe as refugees and why are they returning to their countries of origin If their lives are endangered or they are persecuted. Europe is so conned, it’s just not funny.

  26. Old African Lady with no teeth says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    This is sad some people can’t let it go their ancient practises I guess, some immigrants are very stubborn, everywhere they go they like taking their strict culture/religion/sharia law with them. The same with veils and burka, I don’t understand why they put veils and burka on little girls? what is this?

  27. Uncle Vladdi says

    Jul 20, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    FGM IS LEGALLY PRACTICED BY WHITE LIBERAL FEMINIST DOCTORS IN CANADA!

    LIBERALS PRETEND IT’S A CULTURALLY DIVERSE MEDICAL “NEED!!!”

    http://unclevladdi.blogspot.ca/2015/07/fgm-culturally-sensitive-canadian.html

    FGM: Culturally Sensitive Canadian Doctors Perform It “Legally”

    http://vladdi.wordpress.com/2014/04/17/culturally-sensitive-female-canadian-gynecologists-provide-legal-fgm/

  28. Matthieu Baudin says

    Jul 21, 2015 at 7:53 am

    Don’t be misled into thinking that girls have to be sent away overseas for their clitoris to be removed. It is almost certainly the case that this crime is more commonly committed ‘at home’. This is a life and limb issue of first importance and should be fought with all the energy and gusto with which Wilberforce and others roused the consciences of 19th Century citizens to end the colonial slave trades. If the claim by ‘Uncle Vladdi’ above are correct then Canada should be shamed into action to pursue and prosecute anyone involved in clitoral removal. Would anyone condone the removal of a whole penis of boys on cultural grounds? How then can we turn a blind eye to this equally grotesque butchery of girls?

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