In the U.S., even raising the possibility that mosques might be teaching hatred and sedition is enough to get you charges of “bigotry” and “Islamophobia.” No U.S. official and no one in the mainstream media will even consider the possibility. In fact, so entrenched is the assumption that the mosques in the U.S. are bastions of patriotism and pluralism that if the American media notices this story at all, it will only be to castigate the French for their “Islamophobia.”
“France says 40 imams deported for hate speech,” The Local, June 29, 2015 (thanks to Lookmann):
France has deported 40 foreign imams for “preaching hatred” in the past three years, a quarter of them since the January terror attacks in Paris, Interior Minister Bernard Cazeneuve said on Monday.
The minister vowed to clamp down on mosques and preachers inciting hatred after a suspected Islamist beheaded his boss during an attack on a gas factory last week.
The attack, which had the hallmarks of a jihadist act but is also believed to have personal motivations, was the second in six months in France which is battling to curb radicalisation that has seen hundreds of citizens leave to wage jihad in Iraq and Syria.
Any “foreign preacher of hate will be deported,” said Cazeneuve, adding that several mosques were being investigated for inciting terrorism and if found to be doing so, “will be shut down”.
“We have deported 40 preachers of hatred since 2012. Since the beginning of the year we have examined 22 cases, and around 10 imams and preachers of hatred have been expelled,” said Cazeneuve.
Yassin Salhi, 35, on Sunday confessed during interrogation to killing his boss and pinning his head to a fence of the Air Products factory near the eastern city of Lyon.
The severed head was discovered flanked by two Islamic flags and it later emerged he had sent a selfie of himself with the head to a number believed to belong to a French jihadist currently in Syria.
While Salhi was known to security services for links to radical Islamists in France, and his crime bore the hallmarks of a jihadist act, sources close to the investigation have suggested a personal dimension after a dispute with his employer two days earlier.
“There is no doubt of the personal motivations but there is a symbolism taken from the most atrocious, abject images of terrorism,” said Cazeneuve.
miriamrove says
40 deported 1000nds to go! M
spot on says
You gotta start somewhere.
miriamrove says
Agreed. m
mortimer says
Muslims do not want pluralism, democracy or freedom, because Sharia law forbids all three.
Islam is a system of conquest & extortion which uses a fabulistic faith structure as a camouflage for its true purpose as a troop motivator…therefore, Muslims should not be allowed into free democratic countries. Their duty is to conspire against pluralistic democracy and replace it with theocratic fascism.
ninetyninepct says
America can start with the deporting the imam in chief from that most horrible symbol of racism in the entire world, the WHITE House.
spot on says
Good! Looks like the French are ahead of Obama’s US on this one.
Godwin says
Way ahead of Cameron, the nothing-doing fool. On the contrary, Obama is importing tons of Muslims.
mortimer says
It only works on someone who has dual passports.
SpiritOf1683 says
40 gone. That only leaves 6,999,960 more to go.
R Cole says
That’s the ticket!!
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A few years back – there was one man teaching Islamic conquest – in a mosque in France – but he was an illegal immigrant. The French government announced they deported him after he was deported – and he found himself back in North Africa in a wink of an eye. If he wishes he can fight his deportation case from there – but not at the taxpayers’ expense.
Good riddance!
Concerned Citizen says
Good for France!! I am sure there are a lot more imams that need to be deported in France, all the while the U.S. WILL NOT do the same and state it’s islamaphobic to even think any of our imams need to be deported due to hate speech!!
Celtic says
Well – understandably so. France really is starting to get huge problems with those lunatics. They’re soon 10% of the population – I don’t need to explain to you what this means for the French.
Even the socio-romantic French start to realize that the Muslims are a problem – and the French are total leftists, there was a huge opposition to Sarkozy’s plan to impose a 40 hour worktime/week.
They’re lazy and have a “laissez-faire” mentality, which means “let (others) do”. No wonder they always lost the wars with the Germans. Lazy, undisciplined and a chill-out mentality and totally on the left. But even the French are waking up – of course they do. How many attacks alone in the last 10 months?
Indian says
The main reasons for terrorism is Quran, mosque, imams. Those three belongs to Islam. 270 million Christians, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, atheists killed by Muslims through out the history. And yet they blame us as islamophobes. No ideology killed that much people and that ideology still on this earth and still killing thousands. Those people who following that ideology still living among us in our own countries. Just imagine at what risk we were living.as a non Muslim I just feared very much to live in this world with these terrorists, haters, suicide bombers. I will leave this earth if there would be any planet without Islam.just 19 Muslims did 9/11 imagine what if millions of Muslims living in France turn against French people. What if they ignite a civil war. After world war 2 Europe is so much peaceful. But now this Islam is at your door steps. Thousands of mosques, millions of Muslims in France so no peace no security threat to France freedom. Why Europeans allowed this shit Islam, you people make your continent safe by defeating Hitler, by ending communism. But you allowed millions of Muslims into you who can kill and will die for their religion.
Marty Sanchez says
Good points.
Peggy says
Why they allowed millions of Muslims into Europe? My guess is that Islam is the best vehicle for enslaving the masses.
Celtic says
I can answer your question, my friend.
In Europe people have a hard time even daring to criticize foreign cultures. This has to do with the persecutions of jews in WW2.
Many think that the Muslims could become the “new jews” and therefore they’re unable to see the difference between the two:
The jews did not attempt to establish a theocratic rule in Germany or in any other place in Europe. They worked, created jobs – had their own businesses, but the Muslims have some Kebap-car at best and are not respecting the secular society at all – at least a lot of them don’t.
A great amount of Europeans automatically move to defend Muslims if anyone criticizes Islam. If you say to them: Islam is a threat – they reply: So what would you want to do? Imprison them all in concentration camps?
This kind of irrational behaviour is taking place here in Europe.
The Europeans don’t know the history of Islam – 98% – at least think that the crusades were very bad and we still should feel sorry for it.
Of course the Crusades included horrible crimes, but they were an act of self-defense after more than 400 years of constant raids by Muslim hordes on christian lands.
This is what is NOT taught in our schools. And while the wrong-doing by organized christianity, namely by the catholic church cannot be justified at with the message of Jesus, the Jihad-wars of the Caliphs and their successors can be very well justified with the teachings and deeds of the prophet of doom – Mohammed.
So this is the problem.
Also, Europeans who buy a quran and read it often fall trap to a kind of thinking which for Hindus and Christians etc. is quite rational: Assuming that religion teaches you to be a good human.
So – since the Quran is in chaotic order and says on one page you should not kill and you should not spread injsutice – on the next it says fight the unbelievers – even christians and jews, until they pay the Jyzia tax and feel themselves subdued etc.
So the western reader tends to filter everything through the “it teaches good behaviour” filter – relativating or somehow justifying the rest. It’s really a kind of doublethink à la George Orwell.
But I heard even in India there are a rather large number of fools who think that they can peacefully coexist with the Muslims – even though millions of Hindus have been slaughtered, raped and enslaved in past centuries by the Muslim hordes.
Greetings
Poor Jean says
None so blind as those who just will not see. In 1971! as a twenty year old in Tours, France, I recall a French woman tell me how naive French girls would get involved these Muslim savages and move to places like Lebanon only to return a few years later damaged and broken from abuse. At the time I felt she was just ‘anti-Muslim’ but now I know better. Jesus Christ that was almost fifty years ago and we seem to be getting more stupid, ignorant and impotent by the year. Somebody needs re-education in Crusader quality survival basics.
Angemon says
Only 40? Well, I guess it’s a start… But what of the people who attended those mosques?
William says
No one in officialdom in the U.S. will consider mosques as places where hatred and sedition is preached or taught because of disparate impact. Churches and other houses of worship would have to come under the same suspicion and surveillance before mosques could be considered. Obama is an adversary of disparate impact and so is the Supreme Court.
somehistory says
Once upon a time, while attending a religious service (many, many years ago), those of us present found out that an FBI agent was there to *observe* what was said and done to see if there was any anti-government message being delivered. It actually happened a few times over the course of a year or two with different agents.
The aclu protects mosques from this as it is said to be “profiling”…so it can be done in churches, but not in mosques. And recall, the lawsuit against the NYPD over this issue.
American says
This is a start. It’s not much, there is much more to do, but this is an awakening; hopefully it will accelerate from here. MAYBE, France has a chance of survival.
Peggy says
The fact that France has finally admitted that Islam and mosqaues might be the problem is a step in the right direction.
Hopefully they will continue to be on this path but something tells me this was just a gesture to give the French false hope and keep them in office. Marie Le Pen is gaining popularity so they have to be seen to be doing something.
Voytek Gagalka says
So, just maybe, France is not lost, yet? In that respect it is clear that America is falling behind, unfortunately. It is high time that people will start dumping the mainstream media Trump’s way!
Linde Barrera says
Reminds me of the old tune: “Hooray and hallelujah, you had it comin’ to ya”…Score- Freedom 1, Terror 0. Go Team France: Liberty, Equality, Fraternity.
Jaladhi says
My question : why isn’t the US and other Western countries doing the same as France!! Or are afraid of being accused of Islamophobia!! Better be safe than be a PC moron and get killed!!
Alissa says
Because Obama IS a muzzie and Cameron is a coward and they’re both morons
Morally Bankrupt says
Saudi cash investment and getaway cash stashes for when the gamevis finally up.
nicu says
Well , done France !
I hope many will follow !
Michael says
Never though that France wd be the first to step up to the plate.
dumbledoresarmy says
don’t underestimate the French.
Think about it. Many of their saints are warrior saints.
Remember, Charles Martel who turned back the Muslims at Poitiers/ Tours. Remember Jean Parisot de Valette, Malta, 1565.
I think that all across the non-Muslim world, once the number of islamosavvy people starts to reach a critical mass, there are going to be all sorts of surprises.
abad says
That’s right, Where is Jeanne d’Arc when you need her? But maybe France can set an example for the rest of Europe to follow. There is absolutely no reasons for Muslims to be on that continent. Just no.
Agent of Liberty says
It”s the koran that’s the guide line for hate. The imams are just the messenger. France and every other country needs to ban the koran! Words on paper. When will the world wake up!
mortimer says
You are not an ‘agent of liberty’, but of fascism when you talk about banning books. Books exist.
Religions must be registered. If a religion’s basic doctrines preach for murder, genocide, hatred of Jews and Christians, hatred of Hindus, atheists and Gay people, then the religion should not be licensed.
Without official recognition, Islam would be considered an amoral and violent form of fascism in most countries and not registered. Islam could be made an illegal religion whose practice could be punishable by time in jail, fines or extradition.
Agent of Liberty says
Agent of fascism? I don’t think so. Where do you think muslims get their fascist doctrines from? The koran! Sounds like your defending the religion of inhumane doctrines. Mortimer are you a muslim?
Absolutely ban the koran, mosques, everything that has to do with Islam! We should keep a few copies around for historical reference maybe. An Islamic free world and we’d all be safer as human beings. Because it’s the insane doctrines in the koran that makes humans act on the insane words in the koran.
Islam is an immoral and a violent form of fascism that shouldn’t be able to exist period .
We’ll just have to ban the practicing of islam. It is the koran where all the inhumane behavior comes from!
Accusing me of fascism is ridiculous.
abad says
Yeah no. I’d rather see the Quran available for future generations so that they can UNDERSTAND WHY Islam is so evil and its followers so violent. Wiping out the evidence is not going to help.
Although I do think Islam should be banned.
Elaine Trewartha says
Thank you, Robert Spencer, for keeping us informed.
Galen Muhammad says
Robert and his ilk are keeping you misinformed, I hate to say…..
somehistory says
Ah, you ran the words together as you typed. She is Miss Informed. And you hate to say that you are mr uninformed. Otherwise, it’s possible that you just hate. Hatred of truth and justice and honesty and kindness and freedom, etc. will get you nowhere fast.
But since you are still breathing enough to sit at your computer and type, there may be time to change to a productive way of thinking and living. You should leave islam; if necessary, go into hiding so you won’t be murdered for leaving, but get out as soon as you can. Others have done it. Maybe you can too.
Western Canadian says
No, you love to say, by way of deliberate lying, that those who tell the truth about your sick and vicious hate and murder cult, are the ones lying.
Very few to none of the people on this board are ignorant enough or stupid enough, to believe a muslim (or anyone else) lying about islam. islam = hatred. islam = rape. islam = racism. islam = slavery. islam = ignorance. islam = lying. islam = theft. islam = hatred of women. islam = child abuse. islam = book burning. islam = vandalism. islam = trechery. islam = back stabbing. islam = murder. And those are it’s best points……
Take your lies to hupo or some site where they like to be lied to by ignorant cultists.
abad says
More good news, after Denmark. It’s only too bad that it took so many crimes committed by Members of the Religion of Peace(TM) before France toughened up. As a nation, they have the absolute right to deport anyone of immigrant nature that they want to.
David M says
Preaching hate speech? They must be quoting straight from the Quran, apparently there are over 100 verses in the Quran that call for violence against infidels. Why don’t Cameron or Obama ever mention those 100 verses? EIther they don’t know about them (ignorance), or they are willfully lying.
Steph says
Go France .. the western world should pay attention to this ,,
the extent of western taxpayer expense should be a Free C-17 ride, an old parachute, a Fly over and a push ..
Also, how about, demolish the mosk of hate preaching Imams, this would motivate all the “peaceful moslems” to manage their own preachers ..
dumbledoresarmy says
You said, “how about, demolish the mosk of hate preaching Imams?”.
Agreed.
Especially after reading ex-Muslim Sam Solomon’s discussion of what a mosque *is*, in his little book “The Mosque and Its Place in Society”, and also in his longer book about the process of Islamisation, entitled “Al Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration”.
Demolishing a mosque and giving its resident jihad gang boss the boot – right back to the dar al Islam – is exactly what needs to happen; because the mosque is basically a forward operating base of the army of Islam, a fort, a safe house, a recruitment-and-incitement centre for Jihad.
Bastille Day approaches. 14 July. Who wants to bet that there aren’t Muslims in France plotting to do something really, really awful to wreck the French National Day? So…ahead of that, and in the wake of the horrendous attack earlier this year on the Charlie Hebdo artists and on the French Jewish community, and the recent ghastly beheading, I think the French special forces and other agencies would be totally justified in undertaking a sudden, swift series of overwhelming-force surprise-raid-and-search on every major mosque in France.
Target *all* the big ones, whether they are already suspect or not; and of course, target *all* the mosques that have known “form” (i.e. they were attended by jihadi attackers and/ or plotters, or people who have scarpered off to Syria to join Islamic State, or their close associates). Swoop. Call in the entire army to help, if necessary, and the army reserves and foreign legion (but don’t use any known Muslim personnel). Search, from attic to basement, *all* premises associated with the mosque. U se sniffer dogs – dogs that can detect drugs, cadavers, explosives. Go through all computers. Get forensic accountants to go through the books. Find *anything* dodgy going on – shut the place down. And bulldoze it flat; never to be rebuilt as a mosque. and for that matter, if they do the raid at 4 am ‘prayers’, run the entire ‘bag’ – everyone in the building – through a fine-tooth comb – immigration and citizenship or residency status and when and how acquired, social security status, identity check…find a weapon or traces of drugs or explosives on anyone, they get the third degree…and a DNA sample and fingerprint sample gets run past the unsolved-crimes database.
The key is *surprise*. Act really fast, and be prepared to come down like the hammers of God. The mohammedans probably have been thinking they have the French cowed; it’s time the Mohammedans suddenly found themselves face to face with the descendants of Charles Martel’s warriors.
particolor says
Sounds like they need some Rat Sack to get rid of those Pesky Mosk Rats . 🙂
Steph says
Yes, yes, I love the French, they kick ass, they should act like they did in Mali & have the bulldozers ready, this plan has some real sense, get those Imams to think in this centuary just like nearly every other race in the world did at some point in time..
Even with one Imam shipped out and the mosk destroyed for hate preaching is going to motivate the “peaceful moslems” to rethink
Steph says
Yes, I agree, the Crusaders defending Europe (and our freedom) unfortunately let them get as far as Lyon & Vichy with swords and lancers beat them back all the way to the middle east, I applaud those fighters they are my hero’s ..
The French could start a worldwide movement here, in Mali they saw reality and acted with precision ,, this is what we need today,,
dumbledoresarmy says
Maybe this little French lady is saying her prayers and maybe God is listening.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wb7zokdXbnY
If a French PEGIDA is formed, that is what they should sing at the beginning and end of every rally, after they sing the Marseillaise.
France is finished says
Wouldn’t that mean that if they are deporting “hate preachers” that they would have to deport all Islamic preachers, as there are so many passages of hate in the Koran. I mean, take your pick…Quran 4:89, Quran 4:34, Quran 2:191…what happens if a muslim preacher stumbles upon one of these passages – is that enough to get them deported? Let’s face facts, though, it is a little too late for France. They are finished. They are just waiting for the muslim take over. Full of Neville Chamberlains.
John Johness says
The French have always been hated by the Islamists. They were prominent in the Crusades ( hence the term Faranji to describe Westerners). They stopped the Islam invasion of Europe ( Charles Martel the Hammer) and their current policies. IS hate them with a vengeance. The Islamists (Salafi) may seem stupid to a lot of people, but they know history. They live it. So you can expect a number of attacks in France. Personally I think the French will wake up. Their society is highly intelligent. The bookshops ( unlike ones in other countries) have many books discussing Islam. At some point I hope that Europe will wake up. But I do despair.
I might add at this point that IS are after Mecca and Medina – currently you can see they are circling Saudi Arabia. Also they are softening up Saudi. Kuwait and Qatar. It is all going according to plan. Once they get Mecca and Medina they will rule the Muslim world….. that includes your neighbors.
underbed cat says
Viva la France…and history books. This news of deporting radicalized imams is indicative of acknowledging a threat, however they are missing that fact that the imams are reading literature that remains available in all mosques. i guess the imam was too devout? (radicalized is there a difference)…..Hopefully he did not call up another western country and send them as refugees to the U.S. . This has got to get Cameron thinking? And someone else nervous.
Galen Muhammad says
In his biased statement, Robert Spencer stated, “In the U.S., even raising the possibility that mosques might be teaching hatred and sedition is enough to get you charges of bigotry and Islamophobia.
First and foremost, the quotation marks around the words bigotry and Islamophobia were unnecessary as these words are well documented and legitimate.
Secondly, if someone has verifiable facts that mosques, churches, synagogues, temples, etc are teaching hatred and/or encouraging sedition, it is one’s civic duty to alert the authorities. However, for Spencer and his ilk, their action taken is to make false blanket statements against Islam and all Muslims based on the actions of one or a small group of wrongdoers……if they are Muslims ONLY!!
However, if they are adherents of any other faith or none at all, Spencer and his ilk of paid Islamaphobes gives these perps a pass, deeming them as non-critical…..non-newsworthy. They only address terrorism as it pertains to acts of violence committed by Muslims.
What hypocrites they are!!
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“First and foremost, the quotation marks around the words bigotry and Islamophobia were unnecessary as these words are well documented and legitimate.”
The idea that “islamophobia” is either legitimate or well documented is a tip off that you are not to be taken seriously…
Mulakush says
These are puny laws and efforts.
At this rate hate infection in Muslims will only increase.
Here is my proposal for crimes that earn deportation:
Distributing hate literature. Koran and other Islamic literature is right up at the top.
Preaching hate.
Preaching from hate literature.
Listening to hateful preaching.
Seeking out hate literature.
Viewing hate preaching online.
Being part of any network online or otherwise where hate is preached.
Galen Muhammad says
You mean, “….the hate infection of Muslims will only increase.” In short, Islamaphobia will spread further. We already know that.
So long as you have lying, paid Islamaphobes like Robert Spencer and his ilk, ginning-up those of you who are, obviously, lesser informed than he is, he will keep you sheeple deceived with his half-truths and outright lies against Islam and Muslims.
By the way, Islam does NOT teach hate. That yet another lie Robert and his ilk have told you….!
Agent of Liberty says
Galen, stop trying to rationalize islam. You’ve been brain washed into believing words in a book. Your like a follower of Jim Jones in Guyana. You drank the cool-aid of a mad man mohammed. Apostasy is your salvation!!!!
Jack Diamond says
You are the liar. al-baraa means enmity and hate and disownment, even of your (non-Muslim) family members. Following the excellent example of Ibrahim (Q 60:4): “we are clear of you and whatever you worship besides Allah. We have rejected you and between us and you is enmity and HATRED forever.”
This and similar verses are the basis for the central Qur’anic doctrine of Loyalty & (hate and) Enmity.
“Allaah obligates us to love Allah and His Messenger and HATE those who oppose Allaah and His Messenger. The Islamic Belief System obligates every Muslim to love the people of Tawheed and HATE the people of Shirk…Allaah the Exalted said ‘O you who believe! Do not take the Jews and Christians (Yahood & Nasara) for friends (Awliya). They are awliya to each other. And the one among you that turns to them is one of them…this verse forbids Muslims from taking any of the People of the Book specifically and any of the disbelievers (kuffar) generally, as a friend (mawlaat).”
–Shaykh Saalih bin Fawzaan, Calgary Islamic Homepage
“One of the basic principles of belief in Islam is that we must believe that every Jew, Christian or other person who does not enter Islam is a kafir…and regarded as enemies of Allah, His Messenger and the believers, and that they are the people of Hell.”
–Islamqa.com Sheikh Muhammad Salih Al-Munajjid
somehistory says
Go away, little boy, and learn some new vocabulary and better English writing skills. You are boring us.
islam is…is…hate. Hate of all things good and fine and reputable and …I could go on, but with your limited vocabulary and understanding of English, you wouldn’t know what was written, and therefore, not enlightened.
Mr. Spencer’s knowledge of the death cult of islam is so far advanced from what you know and understand, it’s like the difference in a star larger than our sun and a dim, 15 watt light bulb covered in insect debris.
So, go away now, and learn something useful. No one is going to believe a word you have to write.
Angemon says
Galen Muhammad posted:
“By the way, Islam does NOT teach hate. That yet another lie Robert and his ilk have told you….!”
quran 60:4
There has already been for you an excellent pattern in Abraham and those with him, when they said to their people, “Indeed, we are disassociated from you and from whatever you worship other than Allah. We have denied you, and there has appeared between us and you animosity and hatred forever until you believe in Allah alone“
Angemon says
Jack Diamond beat me to it 🙂
Mark says
The only answer is to deport tham all….there is of course no such thing as a moderate muslim because they all prove themselves to be trying al taqiyya (warfare lying) to try to hide/disguise, islams evil past, satanic teachings in their mainstream books (quran, hadith and sunna) and their truely evil agenda for all non muslims.
Uncle Vladdi says
The Qur’an teaches nothing but hate of all non-muslims, so ditto for preaching from it.
Eject all holy mobster “muslim” criminals! BAN ISLAM.
Mark I. says
Deporting 4,000 might make a small dent in their problem.
Ahmed says
Exporting the problem somewhere else! How irresponsible! Just “disappear” them. LOTS of people “disappear” all the time, MILLIONS of them are “disappeared” every year! If anyone notices enough to call the police, “disappear” them too! Stalin did this with great success, so did every last one of the dictators in all the muslim nations, African nations, Asian nations, and so on.
Steph says
Realistically we have problem with this, Imams should be licensed and have to forward proof of speach programming, including redirecting Islam for the modern world,,, i.e. no killing, no pediafillia, no poligamy, NO FGM, equal rights for woman, no burka, etc.. and if they don’t meet our standards they should be exported.. i.e. the same comparitive values as christian or jewish and democracy,,
No govenment would sit by and let white supremists behave in this way, there would be no such thing as “white supremistaphobia”…
The muslims that say “Islam is about peace” should be the people responsible for maintaning these concepts ……