When he joined the French Navy, it is virtually certain that no one attempted to determine whether or not he had jihadist sympathies or ties. To do so would have been “Islamophobic.”
“IS told foiled French attack suspect to ‘hit’ France,” by Richard Carter, AFP, July 17, 2015:
Paris (AFP) – A 17-year-old suspect in a foiled attack on a French military base was instructed by an Islamic State militant in Syria to “hit” France, a prosecutor said.
He and two other young men, aged 19 and 23, were charged and placed in detention on Friday after their plot to kidnap and behead a member of the French military on film was discovered by police.
The youngest — identified as Ismael K. — was told to carry out the attack by IS when it became clear he could not leave the country to wage jihad in Syria, Paris prosecutor Francois Molins said.
Four young men, including a former naval signalman, were arrested in dawn raids on Monday, suspected of “planning to commit a terrorist act” at a southern French military base at the end of this year or early 2016. A 16-year-old was quickly released.
They came into contact with each other via social networks and formed a plan to go to Syria to wage jihad alongside other IS extremists.
However, Ismael K.’s mother became concerned about his radicalisation and contacted the authorities. He was subsequently interviewed by counter-terrorism officials and was aware he was under surveillance.
For this reason, the trio used encrypted messaging systems and applications to communicate, the prosecutor said.
“There was in particular an exchange between Ismael K. and an individual currently fighting with IS in Syria who — given it was impossible for him to leave France — told him to ‘hit on the ground in France’,” the prosecutor said.
Ismael K. told investigators the plan was to attack the military base, “kill the soldiers there, decapitate the person in charge of the site, film the whole thing and flee to Syria”.The 23-year-old, identified as Djebril A., had served at the base and suggested striking around the New Year period as it was lightly defended at that time.
He joined the navy in June 2013 as a signalman, but suffered health problems and was eventually discharged in January 2015.
No weapons were found when searching their homes, although they had planned to arm themselves with handguns. Police did, however, seize “paramilitary” equipment — including protective gloves used by jihadists in Iraq and Syria.
“Djebril A., Antoine F. and Ismael K. have several things in common — as well as their young age,” noted the prosecutor.
“They have never been convicted, had been educated to baccalaureate level (roughly equivalent to A-levels) and were strongly radicalised, in particular because they watched IS videos,” Molins said.
France remains on high alert more than six months after jihadist attacks in January that claimed 17 lives and started with shootings at satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo….
Although the foiled assault was planned around the first anniversary of the attacks on satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo that left 12 dead, none of the three alleged plotters indicated that the date was chosen deliberately for this reason.
The government says there are 1,850 French citizens or people living in France who are “implicated” in jihadist networks, and around 500 in Syria or Iraq….
dlbrand says
” … charged and placed in detention on Friday after their plot to kidnap and behead a member of the French military on film.”
No need for us to be concerned that the soldiers of Muhammad here in our nation would concoct to do likewise.
We have here only nice well behaved soldiers of Muhammad.
Charli Main says
All muslims carry the islamorabies virus which can be activated anytime, anywhere turning them into rabid jihadists
john spielman says
I believe islamo rabies to be demon possession by allah /Satan and his demonic host
mortimer says
It’s the lemming impulse. Hitler provoked the same impulse in Germany.
dlbrand says
Well of course they do; my statement above was made tongue and cheek.
All Muslims follow the so called prophet of Islam, accept his opinion on all matters to the negation of their own and that of all others, or they are no Muslims; they are apostates.
In brief.
Shane says
Good point, Islamism is a mental disease, just as liberalism is.
The correct course of action is to put these guys in prison for the maximum sentence, strip them of citizenship, and deport them when their sentences are over. These jihadists do not belong in any non-Western nation.
dlbrand says
Shane said: “…. jihadists do not belong in any non-Western nation.”
Really? Now why would that be …
Indeed, my Friend. Well said.
Angemon says
That they’re aware of…
Cecilia Ellis says
Angemon, that nagging assessment, “We don’t know what we don’t know,” keeps raising its ugly head . . .
On a different subject, how on earth do you routinely come up with these clever responses? I look for them each day and am never disappointed. I don’t know what your background is, but you have an enviable way with words and wit. Awesome!
Angemon says
It’s the truth, Cecilia – plain and simple, grim, maybe, but a truth that must be faced. When French authorities say there are so and so many people linked to jihadi groups, what they mean is that there are so and so many people they’re aware of. As long as they continue to work under the assumption that islam is a religion of peace that has been hijacked by terrorists, whatever number they can identify can not even be close to the real number.
And there’s a series of questions that beg to be asked: which mosques do these people go to? What is being taught there? What do their peers think of them? Has anyone bothered to check that? I doubt it.
And thanks for the compliments 😉 I don’t think of myself as being particularly eloquent, I much rather keep things simple and to the point to get through to as many people as possible instead of liberally using thesaurus or pedantic terms and risk turning whatever point I’m trying to make into meaningless word salad.
kay says
Yeah. Like he said.
Gotta understand the bad guys’ principles, models and priorities.
Gotta break their false narratives and tell everyone the real story.
Islam in its core principles either IS fascism or it is NOT.
History shows it IS. As Andrew Bostom’s books show.
We are dealing with both endemic military jihad AND cultural jihad.
Cultural jihad is extremely hard to fight, domestically and internationally.
Looks like 30% to 60% of the Muslims worldwide are Islamist bad guys ( and bad girls ).
In that case the whole century becomes ( or must become ) cultural struggle to save civilization.
We have to win the hearts and minds of the next generation. The kids have to want western civilization and human rights and secularism and equality under the law.
They must be willing to fight, at least in terms of cultural counter-jihad.
Basically everything depends on that. We face enormous challenges.
Know your enemy. You’ve got to know your enemy.
mortimer says
France’s politicians and police are not well-informed ENOUGH about jihad, but MANY Frenchmen and women are learning a GREAT DEAL about the jihad doctrine. THEY ARE FUMING MAD and getting MADDER.
Socialists in France are still maintaining their plan to REPLACE FRENCH PEOPLE WITH THIRD WORLD ISLAMOSAVAGES, but the conspiracy has been exposed.
The French are beginning to resist the Socialist POPULATION REPLACEMENT CONSPIRACY.
Most Brits and Americans are still unaware of it.
Linde Barrera says
To mortimer- Your 11:03 pm July 18 post was extremely thought provoking. I know you don’t pull stuff out of a hat, so could you please tell where you received this information? I was in France in April 2014, and saw a lot of Muslims based on their typical attire in St. Denis (a suburb north of Paris), several Muslims in Paris and a few at Versailles and Caen. France has the largest Muslim population of Europe, and from the 7 locations I visited, it is a beautiful country. It just cannot succumb to Islam, as that would be so disgustingly evil. I look forward to your answer.
kay says
Hi Mortimer.
This makes sense. After the Paris attacks, since 3 million Parisians turned out for the Charlie Hebdo march. Could be that really was their big wake-up moment. I hope so.
If someone has strong social evidence in the press for this, that my beloved frogs ( French ) are in fact really pissed off, I really want to see it.
I do some outreach on a Paris/ France online discussion group, and on European discussion groups, but I can only read French, not write French or Spanish or German.
I wish I actually spoke French right now. Sometimes I can cut and paste relevant articles in French or other languages, but the online groups I can access are rather small ( in the hundreds, not thousands ) and passive or inactive.
I have not cracked Europe. I have limited outreach there.
Counter-jihad cultural work MUST HAVE native Europeans working hard in social media.
Geert Wilders & Co. are not enough. We need real European infrastructure.
Either that, or we lose Europe over time. The bad guys have big mosque based infrastructure and massive social media effectiveness, plus bloodthirsty courage and a big in-real-life global cultural / social network. This is very scary.
How do we support the European partisans? How do we connect with them?
There will be more infrastructure attacks in France, like the Marseilles refinery attack a couples days back.
There will be more Islamist street actions in various European ( and other ) countries.
Things are quickly heating up.
Cultural jihad and opposition to same are now crucial for Europe.
Don’t mourn ( any more ), ORGANIZE!
dumbledoresarmy says
The Fifth Column.
kay says
NEWS ITEM – FRANCE – 3 bomb attack on refinery in Marseilles
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/07/15/there-was-a-significant-terrorist-attack-in-france-this-week-and-the-mainstream-media-hasnt-even-bothered-telling-you/
There Was a Significant Terrorist Attack in France This Week and the Mainstream Media Hasn’t Even Bothered Telling You
“French authorities now say they have recovered remains of an electronic detonator, proving criminal intent, and holes cut in the fence around the tanks suggest the explosions were not an inside job. It has also not gone unnoticed that the site of the attack is only 12 miles away from a major theft last week of explosives from a French army depot.
“A third device exploded on another tank but failed to set it alight, reports Le Parisien. One of the tanks contained highly-refined naphtha, and took 50 fire engines most of the day to put out, burning away “thousands of cubic meters of oil”, although thankfully there were no injuries.
“Breitbart London reported on the disappearance of 40 grenades, 200 detonators, and an unspecific quantity of plastic explosive which has left police stumped as the facility had no-one on patrol and no CCTV. The thieves were able to wander the site at leisure, prising open the doors of 12 buildings to search for loot before leaving, unchallenged.”
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“Play the Marseillaise. Play it.”
— Casablanca
La Marseillaise Casablanca
medaber_emet says
Dear all
this phenomena is well known here in israel
the muslim can work for years with the Jews
and when activated he instantly becomes a soldier of alla and kills Jews
the only solution to the islam is banning islam and deporting all those who insist to live under this murderous cult
Mirren10 says
Yet *another* reason to stop recruiting muslims into *any* of our armed forces, police forces, and never, ever allow them any position of power, **whatsoever**.
But first, we have to stop importing them, and those that are here, must be deported when found to be involved in terrorist activities.
kay says
Yes. Muslims have Only One Country. There is no national patriotism for them. Only Islamic tribalism. That is a key strength in their social, political, and military culture.
It’s true that the Shia and Sunni are busy having an Islamic civil war right now.
But twenty years from now Iran will collapse altogether when they run out of water for their nation.
So the Sunnis win over time. And violent Salafist / Sunni Islamism is getting stronger with each passing month. They have HUGE international resources, just huge.
But the main thing is, it is really hard to legally keep Muslims out of the military or other key points of risk. They can do us enormous damage in many many ways thru individual / small team actions.
It’s called asymmetrical warfare. See
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nidal_Malik_Hasan
Remember Texas. Remember Charlie Hebdo.
We are all in this together. And WE MUST CRUSH ISLAMIC NATIONALISM.
All the Salafists, those who support the Caliphate, are traitors and must go down by MILITARY law. This is war. War is upon us all.
BC says
All who believe in something that does not exist, has never existed and can never exist is to some degree insane.