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Jamie Glazov Moment — “Why I Love Muslims”

Jul 24, 2015 9:10 am By Jamie Glazov

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In this first segment of The Glazov Gang‘s new feature, The Jamie Glazov Moment, I discuss “Why I Love Muslims,” emphasizing why it is so important for freedom-loving people to stress that the threat facing western civilization is Islam the ideology, rather than a group of people.

I point out that the Left has set up constricted boundaries of discourse in which it smears heroic opponents of Jihad as haters of all Muslim people — which is a slanderous and destructive lie. Conservatives must make the argument more effectively that there are obviously many good Muslim people who do not engage in Jihad or want Sharia, but that the problem is that they are considered bad Muslims by Islam itself.

If liberty-supporters do not break through this leftist lie that dominates our government and culture — a lie that blinds people from the Islamic roots of Jihad — then the West will remain incapacitated in defending itself.

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  1. Angemon says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:32 am

    That’s a common hurdle I’ve mentioned here sometimes: I say “islam” and people hear “all muslims”. So if I say, for example, that islam allows muslim men to beat their wives into submition if they fear they might be rebellious what people here is “all muslim men are wife beaters”.

    • Steve Amundson says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 10:37 am

      Angemon, You are right. When we say Islam, the left hears Muslim.

    • Don Foss says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 11:31 am

      It’s no accideaitnt or simple-minded reaction; it’s in their playbook when it comes to discussion about Islam. Their talking oint instructions are to make it personal. Most of them know better, and it makes them crazy with frustration when you don’t take the bait but stay focused on Islamic scripture and doctrine. Never make it about what you think or say or what some cleric or imam or Muslims friends say. All that matters is what Allah himself and Muhammad say.

    • sidney penny says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 4:04 am

      or ” you hate Muslims”

  2. John Duffin says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 9:56 am

    Very good. What ever it takes brothers and sisters.
    ‘I LOVE MUSLIMS!

  3. mortimer says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 10:13 am

    65% of Muslims worldwide wish for strict Sharia and a caliphate. They want something very much like ISIS, but not necessarily ISIS. They haven’t thought it through to its final implications.

    Most Muslims are shallow about Islam. 15% of Muslims support terror groups (one in six). One Muslim in about 6,000 or 7,000 is an actual terrorist…but how do you recognize the terrorists? They look and act the same as moderate Muslims until they put the bomb on.

    • Goat Pimp says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 1:52 pm

      The only good group of Muslims is the 35% that doesn’t want Sharia law, a califate and doesn’t support terrorism.

      The 65% of bad Muslims = 975 Million or approximately 3 times the population of the United States of America.

    • Tim says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 8:21 pm

      None of them are shallow about Islam. Its in their blood. Even if they have never lifted a Koran in their entire life, their entire culture and upbringing has traces of the hadith. How can anyone trust this kind of mindset? You can’t. That’s why so many so called “good and nice” Muslims suddenly transform into terrorists within weeks. That terrorism streak is always dormant. Its in the gene pool. It just needs to be activated.

      • voegelinian says

        Jul 25, 2015 at 6:56 pm

        Shhhh, Tim — you’ll disturb the asymptotic paradigm!

  4. Caroline says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 10:42 am

    Which ones can we trust? I don’t think all Muslims are bad people, but I am now concious there are many who hate us, our way of life and want to conquer us by whatever means. I am sorry to say, I view Muslims with suspicion, especially the overtly devout who are easy to spot.

  5. Gina says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 10:52 am

    And those that follow the teachings of Islam r Muslims n those who pick n chose r not really Muslim. N I agree that we shouldn’t hate the person. Instead the Islamic ideologies. People who follow Islam have been fooled n mislead for 1400 yrs.I’m a Catholic n Jesus said to love our enemies of pray for those who curse u.I’m not saying that this is easy. Some Muslims r being convert to Christianity. I pray for more conversions

    • qedlin says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 12:54 am

      As a Christian, I share your conclusions regarding Muslims and the need to pray for them. This is a spiritual war and only God will bring true peace and justice. However, I must comment on your first sentence. The murderous faction of islam is not picking and choosing, rather the non-violent ones are. It is the bad muslims who do not kill and savage and are not adhering to the words of Mo, the good muslims are the violent ones because they are practicing exactly what Mo commands. This is because in the true analysis of Islam, it is a perverse, demonically inspired belief system with satanic origins that are anti-Christ because they deny Christ’s deity. Their definition of peace is when all the world is in submission to allah. This is antithetical to Judeo-Christian principles. There is much more that can be said but continue to pray for their conversion and for wisdom and understanding. God bless.

  6. miriamrove says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 11:36 am

    He has a very valid argument, saying that he loves Muslims. I had an argument with a Moroccan guy last night as he was complaining about being screened when traveling. I told him what do you expect them to do? He said not all Muslims are terrorist. I then asked how are they suppose to be vetting out the terrorists from others? He did not have much to say so he went on the defensive as all muslims do!! What do you know about Muslims and Islam he asked me? I said a lot. I was born and raised a muslim! He promptly shut the …..!! m

    • Tim says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 12:14 pm

      I am always screened. I am not a Muslim. I look nothing muslim. I have nothing whatsoever that would even mistake me for a Muslim nor any travel history to Muslim countries. But I get screened all the time, like millions of other people. I get screened BECAUSE of incessant Muslim violence and aggression around the world.

      • sidney penny says

        Jul 25, 2015 at 4:12 am

        Careful

        What is a Muslim suppose to look like?

        http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/massachusetts-convert-to-islam-indicted-on-jihad-terror-charges

        Here is one -does he look like a Muslim? HE says he is.

        What race is a Muslim?

      • Judi says

        Jul 25, 2015 at 6:35 am

        Well, I’m sorry to say I loathe muslims, every single inbred one of them no matter how nice they might appear. They are ALL potential terrorists. How many times do we read of muslims living supposedly peacefully with their Jewish/Christian, Hindu, etc neighbours when suddenly they turn violent and kill them. They are definitely NOT to be trusted. It is inherent in their DNA.

        • TheBuffster says

          Jul 25, 2015 at 3:32 pm

          Judi, it’s one thing to be cautious about all Muslims, to not trust them even when they seem nice, and another thing to *hate* all Muslims.

          There are two issues that need to be sorted here. One is that nobody is omniscient. We don’t know everything and we can’t read minds, so we can’t know which nice Muslims are incapable of turning against us and which ones will turn against us when the pressure is on. Therefore, we don’t dare to trust Muslims, because we can’t read minds.

          But to hate all Muslims – or to hate all of any large group – is to hate blindly regardless of the facts of the various individuals in that group who don’t actually adhere to the aspects of the doctrine that you hate. If you say that you “hate all Muslims” that means you don’t recognize the existence of good people among the Muslims who don’t deserve to be hated and who, when faced with the *real* nature of Islam and the necessity to choose Islam or decency, would choose decency.

          We don’t know who those Muslims are, and you may say they aren’t really Muslims, but *they* think they are, and they are counted among the members of the Umma, and some of them will eventually leave the religion as it becomes clear to them what the religion actually is.

          I hate Islam. And I know how it can screw with a person’s mind. I feel sorry for those who’ve been born into that religion, or who have been born into any cult that crucifies honesty and reason and makes it harder for a mind to become independent and rational. Those who embrace Islam’s supremacist premises are the enemy.

          Among the rest are those who will turn toward the dark side eventually, and those who will not, and those who will apostasize. They don’t all have the same potential to go good or to go bad. They’re individuals with their own characters and their own strengths and weaknesses, virtues and vices.

          Be suspicious of all Muslims, because you can’t read minds. But don’t hate them all… because you can’t read minds.

  7. Agent of Liberty says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 11:50 am

    I don’t hate the human being who is a muslim. I hate the ideology, the un-holy koran that brainwashes, indoctrinates the muslim. It’s not just the LEFT, Jamie is always blaming the left. It’s a good percentage of americans and the rest of the world that don’t know what the doctrine of hate, the koran is and what’s in it. Get rid of the koran, make it illegal to practice islam, and the world changes.

  8. Tim says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 12:12 pm

    I’m sorry but I disagree. That is like claiming you love Nazis but dislike Nazism. Fact is someone would not become or want to stay a Muslim if they don’t agree to the ideology – no more so than anyone would become a Nazi unless they agree with Nazism.

    • TheBuffster says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 1:06 pm

      Tim said: “That is like claiming you love Nazis but dislike Nazism. Fact is someone would not become or want to stay a Muslim if they don’t agree to the ideology – no more so than anyone would become a Nazi unless they agree with Nazism.”

      Buffster replies: You are mistaken, Tim. What you need to do is read the testimonials of former Muslims – a lot of them. You’ll find that many Muslims have not read the Koran, but get their ideas of what Islam is from family and from their imams. And that view may leave out all the parts that could turn a normal person off from the religion. Time and again apostate accounts tell of how, when the ex-Muslim-to-be finally reads the Koran for himself in a language he understands, he is shocked and begins to lose his faith.

      It can take a long time for an apostate to come out of the closet, because doing so is likely to mean having also to leave his family, to be forbidden to see his siblings, and in some cases to have his life threatened. Many continue to follow Islamic rituals, to wear Islamic clothing, etc., until they are ready to go through the difficult trial of openly leaving the religion.

      As to those who convert *to* Islam, one can learn a lot about them from reading apostate testimonials as well. Many who become Muslims eventually leave lslam when they finally find out what the texts actually say. It’s not unusual for non-Muslims to be drawn to Islam not by reading the Koran, but by Muslim friends whose description of the religion is all about self-improvement and tolerance and good stuff like that. They give their unbelieving friend benevolent pamphlets on Islam. They may even offer him a whitewashed Koran. He converts to a religion that’s very different from the one in the real Koran and Hadith.

      You’re assuming that everyone belonging to a religion bothers to check it out at the source. They don’t. Many take the shortcut of believing what friends and family tell them.

      • Tim says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 8:16 pm

        You have no clue what you are saying. I have lived amongst Muslims for over fifteen years in the middle east. The trace of the extreme is a solid part of their entire cultural and psychological makeup. Rarely does anyone in the West seem to really understand what being Muslim and what Islam entails because they have no clue or experience of a society and social mindset where religion rules an entire human psychology. The west can’t grasp that it’s even real. They think Muslims are “individuals” like people in the West who make their own decisions, have their own strong mindset. But he’s not an individual. He is part of a mass and his mindset and opinion are not individual but follows the mass.

        Irrespective if Muslims read or understand the Koran or not, they live and breath that violence and hatred that is part of being Muslim in accordance to the Koran. They are completely unpredictable The ideals of the Hadiths are a constant part of everyday life. Its their culture. Its in their blood, in their genes. Therefore, its absurd to assume that Muslims reading or not reading claim the Koran determines if they are extreme or not. Because the mindset is rooted in a mass psychology its very easy to convert them to act on violence and is a natural process.

        I say that Islam is like Nazism. Either you are a Nazi, or you are not. Its very simple. Muslims who find opposition to Islamic atrocities do not want to remain Muslim. They leave Islam. They are the only Muslims I would trust in society.

        • Goat Pimp says

          Jul 25, 2015 at 5:27 am

          “For Jamie to say I love muzzies is a nonsense.”

          What I got from the video is that Jamie’s main point is: to criticize Islam is NOT bigoted.

          His profession “I love Muslims” is an extension from that and an effort to prove his point.

        • TheBuffster says

          Jul 25, 2015 at 2:45 pm

          “What I got from the video is that Jamie’s main point is: to criticize Islam is NOT bigoted.”

          That’s what I got from it, too. We’re attacking Islamic *doctrine*, while recognizing that Muslims, as people, may or may not know the doctrine, may accept only parts of it, may not be religious Muslims – they are not all the same in their knowledge and understanding of the religion or in their dedication to what they do know and understand. The fact that a person identifies himself as a Muslim does not necessarily mean that he has embraced the soul of Islam.

          Those who revile anti-jihad activists like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer as bigots assume that being against Islam is to hate all Muslims – that Islam is whatever Muslims believe about their religion, so to hate Islam is to hate all Muslims. But among the billion-and-a-half-plus people who call themselves Muslims are people who are capable of becoming apostates because *what they believe about their religion isn’t what is written in their primary texts*. These are Muslims whose personal ethics are better than Mohammad’s, Muslims who the die-hard Muslims would already consider apostates.

          But they still consider themselves to be Muslims.

          A bigot doesn’t bother to distinguish the significant differences within a group. A bigot isn’t interested in seeking out the clearest, most comprehensive and well-defined understanding of the facts that he can get. He smears all with the same brush.

        • TheBuffster says

          Jul 25, 2015 at 12:50 pm

          Tim, I agree that Islam is like Nazism as an ideology. And I agree that such an ideology runs counter to individualism and intellectual independence, which means that those raised in the ideology will be punished for any sign of intellectual independence, which means such independence will be rare (though not impossible, else there would be no apostates, especially not in the Middle East. But there are).

          The fact that a large portion of Muslims have been so indoctrinated away from individualism by their religion and culture does not mean that *all* Muslims (especially those raised in the West) know what their religion is really about. You say I have no clue what I’m saying, but I’ve been reading about Islam for over 30 years, including heaps of testimonies of people who finally left the religion, and a large portion of those had a very different idea of what the religion was about while they were Muslims than what they found when they finally read the texts for themselves.

          While they were Muslims, they defended Islam as a religion of peace and claimed that the terrorists had “hijacked” their religion, and these misinformed Muslims believed that until they finally decided to read their texts for themselves. That’s when the apostasy began.

          I’m not saying that most Muslims are misinformed about Islam. But I *am* saying that at any given time there are Muslims who, themselves, don’t have a clue about the real nature of their religion, and who – if they would read the Koran and the Hadith for themselves – would no longer want to remain Muslim – because that is how many Muslim apostates *do* become Muslim apostates.

          I’m also saying that once a person has lost his Islamic faith, he still may wear Islamic clothing and do the rituals until he can bring himself to risk losing his family and friends and perhaps even risk his life. Leaving Islam takes time. It’s a mental and emotional process, a painful process, a heart-breaking process, full of personal loss and difficult adjustments.

          If we want to see more Muslims leave Islam, it’s a good idea to find out about the Muslims who have already left, what they believed before they left, what prompted them to question their faith, and what they went through down the long road to full apostasy.

    • Mary says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 7:09 am

      Tim I agree with you!

      This guy speaks non sense as far as I am concerned. Muslim’s are Muslim’s because of Islam.

      To be a Muslim means speficially you follow Islam! Otherwise your carrying a title that will get you killed because you are not devout.

      This guy is an idiot.
      And so are the other replies.

      You follow Islam, you are a Muslim.

      That includes the Koran. All Muslim’s have a vague understanding of the Koran. They has have a vague understanding of their doctrine which comes from the Koran.

      Everything is linked to the damn Koran. And that is basically Islam itself, in all its doctrines.

      So please. People. Don’t give me this non sense. “No , ex Muslim’s never read the Koran”. Your wrong.

      More of them know the Koran. Even the Bible. Better than all of us put together.
      Stop with the stupidity. And false innocence.

      • Linde Barrera says

        Jul 25, 2015 at 10:19 pm

        To Mary- I am responding to your 7:09 am July 25 post where you admonish all of us to “Stop with the stupidity and false innocence.” Back in March 1986, in the Gulf of Sidra, Libya, there were US Navy ships with airplanes on the decks. Some of the planes were used to fight the Libyans’ rocket attacks, ordered by Colonel Muamar Gaddafi, then dictstor of Libya. He hated the US and wanted to do everything possible to hurt and/or humiliate the USA. Luckily, Ronald Reagan was President and anything involving Libya was nipped in the bud. My Lutheran pastor was giving Bible study on Sunday before church in that year, and several parishioners including myself asked Pastor how we should pray and feel toward such an obvious bully, Col. Gaddafi. Pastor said “Even though this man is acting in an evil manner, he has a mortal soul and he can be converted by the Holy Spirit to believe in Jesus, to do the right thing. So pray for that, and remember nothing is impossible with God.” So the reason I am giving all this is to give you another perspective. The ideology of Islam is evil in my book. But Muslims are humans and can change. Not all will, probably most won’t. But we still have to “fight the good fight.” I know there are more than a few agnostics and atheists who post on this site, and their comments will be influenced by their beliefs as well. It is a very personal choice, but I am sure that the ex-Muslims who post on this site are grateful for the chance to live their lives without the burdens and oppression that Islam imposes.

      • vlparker says

        Jul 26, 2015 at 12:35 am

        Jaime Glazov is not an idiot. He is a very passionate fighter against islam. I mostly disagree with him on this issue. I have empathy for the msulim children being raised in this culture of hate and for the brutalized women who can see no way out. But I have only contempt for rest of them. Jaime is a Christian and I suspect that is where this love of muslims comes from. Fortunately, I suffer from no such weakness. Whether they are murdering jihadists or non-violent enablers they are all just as guilty or evil. But Jaime has probably done more to fight islam than all of us reading this blog combined.

  9. Voytek Gagalka says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Who cares that THEY brand us this or that. Stop using their arguments (really pseudo-arguments) and constantly apologize for your stance. They are the master manipulators and if you’ll drop into their trap they got you. Of course, we love all human beings that should not be even said or defended. But my suspicion is that once you will start apologizing for each statement you made, you are doomed. Aha, you say that you love all Muslims? Thus prostrate before us, beg us for forgiveness for your “racism”! You see, the trap is theirs because they use their own, false like hell, definitions of such concepts as “racism,” what is “islam” and what is not. We should never EVER buy in those definitions. And if they misunderstand you based on their false terms, so be it: PROUDLY confirm, NEVER apologize or feel guilty, and send them to hell!

  10. Peter says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    Enough already. Saying it is Islam and not Muslims is just acquiescing to the Left’s point of view and means trying to debate them on their turf.

    There is no Islam without Muslims. As long as there are Muslims, the will be Islam. The solution is that we need Muslims to become non-muslims (apostates, Christians, Jehovas Winesses, Moonies …I couldn’t care less) and then Islam is no more. There needs to be a strategy to help Muslims liberate themselves from this barbaric religion.

    • Mary says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 7:11 am

      So true !!!

      How right you are sir!

      Muslim’s make up Islam!!!
      Just like Christians make up Christianity and Hindus for Hinduism.

      Haha you can’t take out Muslim’s and just have Islam. That’s non sense!

  11. Champ says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 7:54 pm

    Thank you for that presentation, Jamie; and yes, it is important to love everyone.

    Although you didn’t mention trust in your video, love should not be confused with trust, and it’s easy to confuse the two. Sure, we should love everyone including muslims, but trusting muslims is an entirely different matter.

    This quote is apropos …

    “Love all, trust a few, do wrong to none.”
    ― William Shakespeare, All’s Well That Ends Well

    • Angemon says

      Jul 24, 2015 at 8:52 pm

      Nicely put 🙂

      • Champ says

        Jul 24, 2015 at 9:11 pm

        Thank you, Angemon! 🙂

  12. vlparker says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    I feel sorry for the muslim children being raised on hate. Islam is, among many evil things, child abuse. But I have nothing but disdain for adult muslims. What kind of person do you have to be to belong to a religion whose prophet is a mass murdering, child raping sex slave trader? I have only contempt for adult muslims..

  13. Renee says

    Jul 24, 2015 at 10:02 pm

    Does he love Mohammed?

    And if you love Mohammed and what he did, are you loveable?

    Just some questions.

  14. Raju G. C. Thomas says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 12:05 am

    The religion Islam proposes and expects the world to accept Islam as the best and true path to Allah (God). The prophet Mohammed proposed all possible means to achieve this end for the good of humanity. Islam’s converts and followers have attempted to achieve this end through non-violent and violent means. They have partially succeeded. About 20 percent of this world are descendants of converts to Islam. They are Muslims and practice Islam, the teachings of the prophet Mohammed. However, it is doubtful that Islam will spread further. Atheism will eventually take over this world: “There is no God, but no God on earth or in heaven.” Heaven and hell do not exist. There is no reincarnation either. When we die, we are non-existent forever. There are no rewards or punishments for right or wrong, good or evil, done on earth by all creatures who once lived, including humans.

    • gravenimage says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 7:55 pm

      The prophet Mohammed proposed all possible means to achieve this end for the good of humanity. Islam’s converts and followers have attempted to achieve this end through non-violent and violent means.
      …………………………….

      The vicious evil of Islam is not for the good of humanity–but just to subject victims to Islam to be exploited by Muslims.

  15. sidney penny says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 4:08 am

    I always get nasty replies when I say that “the problem is not Muslims, the problem is Islam”;

    http://koenraadelst.bharatvani.org/articles/AnwarShaikh.html

    http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/index.html

    http://www.islam-watch.org/anwarsheikh/OnIslamicTerrorism.htm

    by Koenraad Elst

    Being a European outsider to Islam, I (Koenraad Elst) always get nasty replies when I say that “the problem is not Muslims, the problem is Islam”; but here you have it from the horse’s mouth. It is perfectly possible to retain warm feelings for Muslims yet leave Islam and even criticize Islam.

    http://www.saveindia.com/an_interview_with_koenraad_elst.htm

    • Raju G. C. Thomas, Ph.D, says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 11:02 pm

      I agree with you Konrad Elst. The problem is not simply being Muslims. The problem is found in the principles and teachings enunciated in the Koran, and the preachings and actions propagated and promoted by the famous prophet and proponent of Islam, Mohammed. Mohammed does not advise and advocate co-existence with non-Muslims, but require their conversion to Islam by any and all means possible, whether violent or non-violent. Both if necessary. Islam should pervade the world because it is the true faith in god. Islam is best for all humans, Islam establishes the process and prospect of being with Allah after death. Allah does not welcome and accept non-Muslims.

  16. lasslax says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 5:25 am

    I´m affraid I can´t share this arguments, that the muslims are OK, the problem is islam.
    It´s the same as saying that the nazis are OK, the problem is nazism.

    There is absolutely no difference and I continue NOT loving the nazis and the muslims, the believers and followers in their fascistic inhuman ideology.

    • Mary says

      Jul 25, 2015 at 7:16 am

      You are right! Do not fret. Some people actually most of them use the love excuse.

      “Love everyone. Be charitable. You can’t forget that we have to love ” all this non sense.

      We are not only called to love. But for truth. And with truth you cannot appease. This does not take away From love. But expands it. Blows it up.

  17. Eddie villaruz says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 10:13 am

    Are you kidding me! Tell that to the Christians that once lived in Saudi Arabia, it was once 90 % Christians, guess what the hell it is now! 0% you guys are a bunch of idiots! You think that Islam….Muslims give a shit what you think! They don’t, they are like ants they keep pushing on, no matter is 1,000’s die their objective is to rule the world period and when they are about to cut your head , I hope you wake up and say, damn “I should have fought back” …. Too late they won, you idiots!

  18. voegelinian says

    Jul 25, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Ah yes, what was that old Paul Simon song… Still Asymptotic After All These Years…?

    “I discuss “Why I Love Muslims,” emphasizing why it is so important for freedom-loving people to stress that the threat facing western civilization is Islam the ideology, rather than a group of people.”

    Ah yes, a disembodied Ideology is massacring, oppressing, threatening, hating, and lying to humans all over the globe, like some kind of giant monster or nebulous gas disconnected from the actual Muslim people who believe in it and put it into practice. Thus a liberal twinge in Glazov — the liberal reflex that refuses to hold individuals and people accountable and resopnsible for the actions they 1) perpetrate, 2) countenance, and 3) lie about to protect. Sure, Glazov is anti-Leftist, but like his mentor and boss, David Horowitz, he evinces spasms which show that sometimes you can take the boy out of Leftism, but you can’t quite take the Leftism out of the boy…

    “I point out that the Left has set up constricted boundaries of discourse in which it smears heroic opponents of Jihad as haters of all Muslim people — which is a slanderous and destructive lie.”

    Here, Glazov seems to be letting the Left (and their PC MC cousins) control the Conversation. The inclusion of “hate” by them is a red herring. “Hate” is beside the point (see my essay “What’s ‘Hate’ Got To Do With It?”). However, when one is anxiously distracted by this red herring, one may, as Glazov tends to do here, be tempted to throw out the baby with the red herring. While of course the concerned individuals of the Counter-Jihad do not “hate all Muslims”, they are perfectly in their right to be dismayed, suspicious, and frankly horrified by all Muslims for the fact that Muslims love and admire Muhammad, love and admire Islam, love and admire the Koran and, when they are not expressing their outrageous fanaticism (as, for example, to pluck just one datum out of a keffiyeh from among the thousands which we could adduce, the over 80% of Egyptian Muslims who in a recent Pew poll expressed their support for the death penalty for “crimes” such as apostasy and blasphemy) or — just as bad if not worse — lying about it in various oily, serpentine, disingenuous ways, thus adding insult to injury.

    “Conservatives must make the argument more effectively that there are obviously many good Muslim people who do not engage in Jihad or want Sharia, but that the problem is that they are considered bad Muslims by Islam itself.”

    Has Glazov never educated himself on taqiyya and the False Moderate? On the mountain of data out there indicating a broadly systemic fanaticism in a majority of Muslims? This purely speculative assumption he is enjoining as an obligation on the Counter-Jihad, based solely on the ostensible appearance of good will Muslims may in various ways manifest in word and deed, reflects a soft underbelly of naive, gullible nougat. It’s not for nothing that I once developed a short-lived synonym for my term “asymptoticism” — “Glazovianism”.

    Glazov is doing great work for the Counter-Jihad. His analytical speculations here about Islam and Muslims, however, is not only not useful, it tends to reinforce the same PC MC paradigm which is the main reason why the mainstream West persists in its myopia about the problem of Islam; which is the problem of…. MUSLIMS ENABLING THEIR ISLAM.

    Glazovianism

    http://glossaryhesperado.blogspot.com/2009/01/glazovianism.html

    • Angemon says

      Jul 27, 2015 at 7:37 am

      voegelinian posted:

      “ Thus a liberal twinge in Glazov — the liberal reflex that refuses to hold individuals and people accountable and resopnsible for the actions they 1) perpetrate, 2) countenance, and 3) lie about to protect.”

      Oh, for f***’s sake. Are you watching the same video as the rest of us? Who? Who? WHO is refusing to hold anyone responsible for their acts, or lying to protect them (great, I sounded like a owl in there)? Not Jamie. This is just your standard MO: you come in, lie and misrepresent what JW contributors say in order to bolster your standing (a textbook case of a strawman) – they know nothing, they’re unreliable sources, only you have all the answers, and if anyone asks for more details than your semblances of ideas have to show for then you go in full propaganda mode and try to demonize them as well, as I know very well from first-hand experience.

      You know who refused to hold muslims accountable for their actions? The politicians and officials who ignored the muslim rape gangs in the UK. They got tons of flak for it, including *gasp* in Jamie Glazov lead “The Glazov Gang”. You go watch those episodes and then try to imply that Jamie is a liberal who refuses to hold muslims responsible for their actions or lies to protect them, you walking Dunning–Kruger effect.

      “Here, Glazov seems to be letting the Left (and their PC MC cousins) control the Conversation. The inclusion of “hate” by them is a red herring.”

      If, however, the chosen term happened to be “racism” instead of “hate” you would be here assuring us that it stood by itself as undeniable evidence that they were racializing the islamic issue, and I should be subjected to a “good, old-fashioned public shaming” for questioning you about it.

      “While of course the concerned individuals of the Counter-Jihad do not “hate all Muslims””

      By your own logic, you’re not a concerned individual in the CJ movement. Got it.

      “they are perfectly in their right to be dismayed, suspicious, and frankly horrified by all Muslims for the fact that Muslims love and admire Muhammad, love and admire Islam, love and admire the Koran and”

      I’m going to quote from Robert Spencer’s “The Truth About Muhammad” (please don’t sue me, Marc, Robert 🙂 ):

      “

      Of course, even if the jihadists are right about Muhammad that does not mean that all or even most Muslims will not be law-abiding and opposed to terrorism. In Islam, as in every religious tradition, there is a spectrum of belief, knowledge, and fervor. One cannot be sure from anyone’s self-identification as a Muslim how much he knows about the Qur’an and the life of Muhammad. This is true particularly because Islam is an essentially Arabic religion; Muslims must learn the daily prayers and the Qur’an in Arabic, which is the language of Allah. To pray to him in another tongue is unacceptable. Since most Muslims today are not native Arabic speakers, and the Qur’an is in difficult, classical, seventh-century Arabic (and most English translations are in equally difficult ersatz King James Bible-like language), many Muslims, even those who are quite serious about their faith, have only a dim awareness of what these texts actually say.

      “when they are not expressing their outrageous fanaticism (as, for example, to pluck just one datum out of a keffiyeh from among the thousands which we could adduce, the over 80% of Egyptian Muslims who in a recent Pew poll expressed their support for the death penalty for “crimes” such as apostasy and blasphemy) or — just as bad if not worse — lying about it in various oily, serpentine, disingenuous ways, thus adding insult to injury.”

      So if any given muslim is not being openly fanatic then he’s lying about it. Got it. This is remarkably similar to what we had in Romenia during the Communist dictatorship – if one was accused of being anti-communist, and if one didn’t act as such it meant nothing, he was just being deceitful. As soon as the charge was laid, you were done for. Then again, I’m not surprised by your flirting with, if not outright supporting of, totalitarian ideas and methods – you are on record stating others should peer pressure me into silence as to shield you from criticism.

      ““Conservatives must make the argument more effectively that there are obviously many good Muslim people who do not engage in Jihad or want Sharia, but that the problem is that they are considered bad Muslims by Islam itself.”

      Has Glazov never educated himself on taqiyya and the False Moderate?”

      Are those girls killed in “honor killings” (for example, for not wanting to wear a hijab, or wanting to date someone outside their religion, or dressing and acting too Westerner, etc.) martyrs to the cause? Did they agree to be killed to fool us into thinking that there are muslims who want to live a better live that what their religion allows for? Of course, the notions of “false moderates” and taqqyyia don’t deny what Jamie said – that there are false moderates and muslims who lie about what islam teaches is not mutually exclusive with the idea that there are muslims who are not interested in waging jihad, whatever the reason (they don’t know they’re commanded to, or islam isn’t the biggest influence in their lives, or by whatever other reason).

      Also, crying “attack”, “asymptotic” or “obtuseness” isn’t actually an answer – just a heads-up.

      • Godless says

        Oct 21, 2015 at 9:11 pm

        Angemon why are you defending the defense of Muslims? This was suppose to be “anti-Islam” video but Glazov made it so he could tell us how great Muslims are and that we should love them. You don’t see a problem with this? Angemon, wake the fuck up.

        • Angemon says

          Oct 22, 2015 at 7:31 am

          voegelinian’s mouthpiece posted:

          “Angemon why are you defending the defense of Muslims? This was suppose to be “anti-Islam” video but Glazov made it so he could tell us how great Muslims are and that we should love them. You don’t see a problem with this? Angemon, wake the fuck up.”

          You’re not even trying anymore, are you? No attempt to even pretend to address what I said, just voegelinian-style mud flinging. Fitting, considering that’s the reason he “enlisted” you for – to come here and shout me down.

          Anyway, voeg recently said that most people here are “fucktards” with a “strange brain impediment“. Do you agree with that?

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