Western non-Muslim leaders, including the Prime Minister of France, Manuel Valls, would have us believe that Coulibaly, despite his words, does not actually understand the Qur’an, and is not following the orders of Muhammad. They do not explain how people like Coulibaly got this idea, and why there are so many of them. Nor do they explain what they propose to do about this exceedingly strange phenomenon.
“Paris supermarket hostage reveals killer Amedy Coulibaly told him: ‘It’s nothing personal,'” by Lewis Smith, Independent, July 8, 2015:
One of the hostages taken captive in a Paris supermarket following the Charlie Hebdo massacre in January has spoken of how he made it his “mission” to ensure no one else died.
The hostage, identified only as “André”, said he helped Amedy Coulibaly get footage on jihadi websites but ensured the web browser was easily trackable. Minutes earlier, Coulibaly shot four people dead as he burst into the Hyper Cacher kosher supermarket in the Porte de Vincennes area of Paris. André, a computer expert, was able to alert the authorities to the attack with a series of text messages to clients with high-security clearance at embassies.
He is the first of the hostages to speak publicly of his ordeal and was the only captive to spend long periods alone with the killer. He gave his account to Vanity Fair in March, before French judges put a gagging order on the freed hostages.
When the shooting started André, who was with his girlfriend, dashed to take shelter in the shop’s basement but minutes later a hostage came down to tell them: “He will kill us all if you do not come up.”
He emerged to find blood and bodies. Coulibaly was desperate to upload his GoPro camera footage to the internet, in the expectation it would inspire other would-be terrorists to go on the rampage in Paris. He was angry the store had no wi-fi. “Does anyone here know anything about computers?” the terrorist demanded, at which point André came forward. “I wanted to keep him calm. I knew he had killed four people and I made it my mission that no one else should die,” he said.
The terrorist admitted he already killed a policewoman and was working with brothers Cherif and Said Kouachi, who carried out the slaughter at the Charlie Hebdo office. He told the hostages: “There are many people like me who are now preparing in Arab countries. I am not crazy. We understand the Koran. We understand the good and the right way.” He repeatedly asked André: “Do you understand why I am doing what I am doing? Do you understand what I am doing here? I am here because the Prophet has given me an order. I am here to stop the war in the Arab countries.”
André recalled: “I said, ‘I can understand what you are saying’. I went into a neutral state, like a teacher. I wanted him to see into my eyes and know I was not angry. I said, ‘I am here and I will try to help you’.
“Again and again he said: ‘This is not my fault. I have to do this. It is not against you personally.’ He wanted me to acknowledge his point of view in some way; what had brought him to what he had to do. He needed to be understood….
Well Done says
OK, these people are at war with us. Islam has been doing this for 1,400 years. Like any bully, they’ll say whatever it takes to get an angle. They’ll use “whatever you’ve got” against us… note the use of automatic rifles and the internet.
Islam has produced nothing but human misery. I scoff whenever I hear some apologist state that Islam “ended the dark ages” or “gave us mathematics”. Islam has never done any good. None at all.
Most victims of Islamists are other moslems… in keeping the tradition of mohammed, who first slaughtered any local Arabs who didn’t go along with his justification for imperialist slaughter. The only way to stop it is to get VERY serious about it. They are literally “not like us”.
And they don’t like us…heck they don’t like their own people!
sidney penny says
“Islam has produced nothing but human misery. I scoff whenever I hear some apologist state that Islam “ended the dark ages” or “gave us mathematics”. Islam has never done any good. None at all.”
Most of the Muslims in previous time were too busy fighting and killing to end the dark ages or give you maths.
http://indiafacts.co.in/the-myth-of-islamic-science/
The Myth of Islamic Science
In this provocative essay, Waseem Altaf, the author argues that the notion of a golden age of Islamic learning is a myth created to counter the current sorry state of intellectual life in the Islamic world.
Introduced by Dr. N.S. Rajaram
Editor’s introduction
It is widely believed and taught, including in India, that there was a Golden Age of Islamic learning that made a major contribution to science and the arts. In India we are told that this ‘synthesis’ between Hindu and Muslim thought gave rise to a great ‘syncretic’ civilization that was suppressed and eventually destroyed by the British. However, this flies in the face of the fact that not a single name of a major scientist from the five-plus centuries of Islamic rule of India has come down to us. We have to go to pre-Islamic India to invoke names from the past— names like Aryabhata, Varahamihira and the like.
Walter Sieruk says
To really understand the actual essence of the Quran it’s best to to start way before the birth of Muhammad way back to the time of the early Christian church. For the early Christian had, and likewise todays Christian Chuch still has the Gospel of Christ. As seen in First Corinthians 15:1-8. In contrast what Muhammad ended up giving the world was the Quran which ,in reality, is another gospel. Muhammad even claimed that ,at times , to have gotten some of the information through angel This information eventually went into the composition of the Quran.[another gospel] Such an insideous and deceptive thing as this had been prodicted and warned about in the Bible. For the Bible reads “Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you let him be accursed. As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8,9. [K.J.V.] In conclusion, Muhammad stand accursed by and of God .Likewise, that “angel” that is that fallen angel [demon] who gave Muhammad the information that ,in time , went into the making of the Quran is accursed of and by God. Therefore , the Muslim clerics who preach and teach the Quran to others as the truth are accursed by God. Thus Muhammad was one of the many false prophet that Jesus predicted and warned of the coming of, Mathew 7:15., and that the Bible further warns about .As seen in First John 4:1.
Pere LaChaise says
“Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you let him be accursed. As we said before, so I say now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than ye have received, let him be accursed.” Galatians 1:8,9. [K.J.V.]
Thank you Walter, St Paul said all that ever need be said about the pernicious and satanic delusion promulgated by the apostate and heretic Mohammed (hot coals be upon him, eternally). may the unsleeping worms in gehenna gnaw him until the judgement.
Angemon says
Islam means submission. Muslims are slaves to allah. And those who don’t apostatize are no better than house negros:
http://ccnmtl.columbia.edu/projects/mmt/mxp/speeches/mxa17.html
“…during slavery you had two Negroes. You had the house Negro and the field Negro.
The house Negro usually lived close to his master. He dressed like his master. He wore his master’s second-hand clothes. He ate food that his master left on the table. And he lived in his master’s house–probably in the basement or the attic–but he still lived in the master’s house.
So whenever that house Negro identified himself, he always identified himself in the same sense that his master identified himself. When his master said, “We have good food,” the house Negro would say, “Yes, we have plenty of good food.” “We” have plenty of good food. When the master said that “we have a fine home here,” the house Negro said, “Yes, we have a fine home here.” When the master would be sick, the house Negro identified himself so much with his master he’d say, “What’s the matter boss, we sick?” His master’s pain was his pain. And it hurt him more for his master to be sick than for him to be sick himself. When the house started burning down, that type of Negro would fight harder to put the master’s house out than the master himself would.“
mortimer says
Coulibay said, “This is not my fault. I have to do this. It is not against you personally.”
“Jihad is ORDAINED for you (Muslims) though you dislike it, and it may be that you dislike a thing which is good for you and that you like a thing which is bad for you. ALLAH KNOWS but you do not know.” – Koran 2.216
And Prime Minister of France, Manuel Valls, KNOWS, simply KNOWS this verse has NOTHING, NOTHING to do with Islam.
Manuel Valls KNOWS, but Allah doesn’t KNOW about jihad…no…Allah has nothing to do with Islam.
TheBuffster says
Valls would probably say that “jihad” there means a spiritual struggle, blah-blah-blah.
Linde Barrera says
In my opinion, for whatever it is worth, the French government should award Andre, the computer expert who was in the Paris supermarket, with the equivalent of “The Presidential Medal of Honor”, and it should be televised live with a “jumbotron” tv positioned in a popular outdoor spot in Paris, perhaps near The Tuilleries. God bless Andre.
Marty Sanchez says
“I am not crazy. We understand the Koran. We understand the good and the right way.” He repeatedly asked André: “Do you understand why I am doing what I am doing? Do you understand what I am doing here? I am here because the Prophet has given me an order.”
The Jihadis are eager to be understood that they are not “crazy” nor “bad”. And the truth is that they are not crazy, only brainwashed with the most ugly, heinous, abominable, disgusting ideology made up by a pedophile in some desert 1400 years ago. Their role-model is a pedophile serial-killer and they can’t even take a piss without copying him.
To them the problem is ours — that we don’t understand how right the pedophile serial-killer was. If only we understand that we will see that they are not crazy nor bad.
To that I say to the jihadi Coulibaly “sorry you have been infected by a virulent brain virus (the pedophile serial-killer’s teachings (ISLAM)) and the best thing for the world is that you die. We can’t rehabilitate you, and all those like you must be wiped out. Perhaps you were born a good person by you were infected with a killer virus and now you are only a malady upon the earth until you are destroyed.
duh_swami says
I am here to stop the war in the Arab countries.”
So the best way to do this is to murder cartoonists and Jews in France…Around here we call that, ‘Divine Islamic Logic’…But don’t get confused, ‘divine Islamic logic’, has nothing to do with Islam.
TheBuffster says
As if killing anybody in the West would stop the war in Arab countries. If every Western country pulled up all economic stakes and brought them and all soldiers home, the Middle East would blow itself sky-high. But that wouldn’t stop the jihadists in our midst, because they have another mission, set down for them by their alleged god.
Henry Page says
Al-Khwārizmī developed algebra but did not discover the method as it is now understood through archaeological research that his work is based on ancient Indian and Greek sources.
jewdog says
The Prophet’s order at the Kosher Deli: “Pick me up a pastrami on rye with sauerkraut, deliver it, and then go f*** yourself”.
UKCitizen says
According to our western leaders those who commit violence cannot possibly be Muslims.
So by there definition all those persecuting Christians across the world are not Muslims, all those committing terrorist activities are not Muslims, all those fighting other Muslim sects are not Muslims and all those that conquered the Middle East, Northern Africa, Persia, Balkans, Spain and nearly France over a 1400 year period were not Muslims either. I bet you that the Crusaders were definitely Christians though! Why do our Leaders hate us so much!