He was studying electrical circuitry at an aeronautical engineering college. You know, poverty and ignorance cause terrorism. “Jersey Jihad: Inside the ISIS case that ensnared 5 friends,” by Ted Sherman, NJ.com, July 27, 2015:
NEWARK —They appeared to be a tight circle of friends.
There was Nader Saadeh, a 20-year-old New Jersey man who federal prosecutors say began trolling the internet for jihadist websites before leaving for Jordan in an apparent effort to join ISIS. His older brother, Alaa Saadeh, 23, told a friend to lie if the FBI came knocking.
Samuel Topaz, a talented musician and classmate of Nader Saadeh at Fort Lee High School, was converted by him to Islam. He posted “selfies” on Facebook wearing the dark head and face scarves favored by Islamic State fighters. According to court filings, they were captioned: “Which assassin am I, or am I all of them?”
Munther Omar Saleh, 20, was studying electrical circuitry at an aeronautical engineering college in Queens and also knew Nader Saadeh. After Saleh allegedly tweeted support for the gunmen who attacked the offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo in Paris, authorities believe he began scouting out New York City landmarks and tourist sites. They said he was planning on assembling a deadly pressure cooker bomb.
And Fareed Mumuni, 21, who was close to Saleh, had been described by neighbors as a quiet, friendly guy who “never talked about politics or anything,” before he came at federal agents with a kitchen carving knife when they showed up to arrest him.
Lawyers and friends were reluctant to say much, or anything at all. But their story as seen through a series of criminal complaints, following a year-long FBI/Joint Terrorism Task Force investigation that spanned two states, offers a unique view into the lives of five young men who grew up in the U.S. Living typical American lives, attending school, enjoying music, playing sports, still all felt the pull to join the cause of the militant Islamic State.
From New Jersey to California, federal authorities have charged 58 people in the past year alleging support or ties to ISIS, or ISIL as it is also called. Most have been U.S. citizens in their early 20s.
They have included married women, jobless teenagers, military veterans and converts. At least three of those charged successfully made it to Syria. And as with the case of the five friends now charged in federal court in Brooklyn and in Newark, many may not even show up on the radar screen until worried friends or relatives make a call.
While prosecutors in New Jersey and New York would not discuss the case which came to light last month, an examination of court filings, examined in the context of a single timeline, indicates that the FBI did not open an investigation into the group until a call this past January from a “close acquaintance” of Samuel Topaz—likely a family member—who expressed fears that his friends were pushing him to “do something stupid.”…
Stephanie says
–0:30 min The index-finger—Islamic sign for Allah’SS MONOtheism
http://192.96.206.71/lost-generation.html
harbidoll says
they point Up– but pray Down! funny that!
Lia Wissing says
And lift their bottoms to their ‘3rd holiest site’ …
Angemon says
Huh, what? “And converts”? Why not “some of them converts”? And converts to what? Scientology? Pastafarianism?
Champ says
” …poverty and ignorance cause terrorism”
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Yeah and we aren’t buyin’ kerry’s odious false narrative either …
Stephanie says
Amazing 🙂
But his role model, the illiterate ‘Prophet’ muhammad was TOO LAZY to learn how to read & write–rather attacking UNbelievers (whole Quran chapter #8)
BUT claimed to READ form his followers, i.e. Muslims:
96:1-5 “Proclaim! (or Read!) In the name of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created, …”
https://twitter.com/schnellmann_org/status/617624569252347908
mortimer says
More than likely the idea that Mohammed couldn’t read comes from a misunderstanding of the word ‘ummi’ that actually means ‘Gentile’. The Koran refers to a ‘Gentile prophet’. Mohammed contrasted himself with ‘The People of the Book’ (Bible means book). He was ‘unscriptured’ (without a holy ‘book’).
Many scholars say hadiths prove Mohammed could read and write. He probably wrote parts of the Koran, but used scribes because that was easier.
mortimer says
We have to stare these jihadists with their jihad beards and clipped jihad moustaches and tell them clearly, ‘WE HAVE OBSERVED YOU.’
There are at the least one or two jihadist for every 7,000 Muslims in North America. The number seems to be growing.
The problem is made greater by political leaders who are lying about Islam. Islam is the source of the terrorism. Since our leaders and governments aren’t telling Muslims to stop their terrorism, we as individuals have to talk to Muslims directly. We have to tell them, ‘Your terrorism won’t be tolerated anymore. We’ve reached the breaking point.’
Linde Barrera says
To mortimer- Love your idea about putting the breaks on Islam. How could we in the “counter-jihad” achieve this? It would have to be a grassroots movement. I doubt we would have the backing of any elected politician, or even any wannabe elected politician. I have been to a number of rallies, knocked on doors, and worked phone banks. Remember “Occupy Wall Street”? Those people were truly admirable, because they were there day after day, and I know because I saw them on several occasions, in parks and corners of lower Manhattan. What would the “Stop the Terror” platform be? I look forward to your response, and those of other JW commenters.
RonaldB says
” What would the “Stop the Terror” platform be?”
Well, the most obvious, most constitutional, and probably most effective measure would be to stop all Muslim immigration immediately. No Muslims will be admitted into the US, unless on a business visa with a clearly marked exit date. No family reunion passes, no marriage exemptions, no compassionate refuges. Just shut off any further Muslim immigration.
People who are not citizens do not have the rights of citizens, so denying people entry to the US does not abridge their rights in any way. A country has the right to protect its own existence, as the founding fathers pointed out in The Federalist Papers, so ending Muslim immigration seems to be a win-win situation. It stops a deadly risk, and it is not in the least unconstitutional or illegal.
Davegreybeard says
@mortimer
“…we as individuals have to talk to Muslims directly. We have to tell them, ‘Your terrorism won’t be tolerated anymore. We’ve reached the breaking point.’”
You are wasting time mort, INFIDELS need to be educated about Islam, it is JOB ONE, period.
Once enough Infidels recognize the problem, solutions will be forthcoming – nothing effective will occur before this.
If Christians wish to do the Lords work and proselytize among Muslims, great, but meanwhile the rest of us need to focus on the prime objective – awaken our fellow Infidels to the danger of Islam.
Deus Vult
Singh says
Muslims have a visceral hatred for Jews and Christians because deep down inside they know their religion was plagiarized from these two faiths. The mullahs are always calling for the total destruction of Jews and Christians. The persecution of Jews and Christians in Muslim countries is driven by a deep sense of insecurity and inferiority. The pain is only satiated by cruelty towards Christians and Jews – hurting, raping and killing them, and/or humiliating them by subjecting them to jizya.The west is hated because of its success and advancements in comparison to Muslim backwardness and barbarity. Muslim’s derive great pleasure from hurting, and wounding the west and destroying its symbols. They revel in bringing pain to their people and hurting families through killings and bombings. It’s a concerted campaign that is not necessarily planned or premeditated. The attacks happens instinctively against what is perceived as natural and mortal enemies. Muhammad deliberately filled Koran with hatred against Jews and Christians because of course he of all knew Islam was nothing but a stolen bastardized version of Judaism and Christianity. Muhammad was also a looter of ideas.
Jack Diamond says
All true. Allah’s hate extends to all disbelievers of course but Jews and Christians especially because they refuse to become Muslims, because Islam claims to have abrogated their religions and their holy books and therefore Muslims are the true “Jews and Christians” which is to say the Jews and Christians
before Muhammad were really Muslims too, and those thereafter are renegades who belong to no religion because Judaism and Christianity are no longer valid, in fact, are criminal before Allah. They steal Jesus Christ, they steal the Hebrew Bible, they steal the Holy Land, and they kill as an act of worship, as in: “the time is coming when anyone who kills you will think they are offering a service to God.” At the same time their Qur’an affirms the Torah and Gospels were the revealed word of God, a glaring defect only remedied by the incoherent insistence (because the proof is otherwise) that the original Torah & Gospels had to have been altered and distorted to explain why they are the antithesis of the Qur’an. Not only are Muslims ordered to maintain an attitude of hate and enmity, Jews and Christians under the thumb of Islam were specifically to be humiliated, humbled, and feel themselves subdued. Islam was sadism long before the Marquis De Sade came along.
mortimer says
“a quiet, friendly guy who…came at federal agents with a kitchen carving knife when they showed up to arrest him.”
Nader Saadeh was such a great addition to RICH TAPESTRY OF MULTICULTURALISM… he was ready to kill everyone who didn’t agree with his RELIGIOUSLY-INSPIRED PSYCHOPATHY.
How many hundreds of jihadists LOOK EXACTLY LIKE THIS GUY? Look for the jihad beard and clipped moustache.
Lia says
But also check for the zebibah – the really devout ones do the head-banging that causes the bruise.
mortimer says
‘Friendly’? Was Nader Saadeh truly ‘friendly’?
A used car salesman is also ‘friendly’, but he is not your friend.
Papa Whiskey says
Wonder where this punk got his ISIS flag? I tried to find one on the Net to burn if need be and was unable to. Couldn’t find al-Raya, either.
Wellington says
Just one more example (Holy Hell, how many more are needed?) that Islam does terrible things to the mind, hiding behind its religious veil as it does. Once and for all this particular veil must be lifted in order to show the putridity, the ugliness, the stupidity, the absence of graciousness, the lack of a Golden Rule for all, the repression, the hate, the self-pity, the mendacity, the parasitism, the death culture and the waste of life which Islam is steeped in.
Once again I assert that there is nothing, not one thing, which is good in Islam that cannot be found elsewhere, and yet there is much which is wrong in Islam which is difficult to find anywhere else. Herein lies Islam’s real legacy, assuming that truth prevails, which is most definitely not a given.
Jay Boo says
Isn’t it ironic how Muslims get all wigged out about criticizing others for partnership with “their” impersonal Allah yet do exactly that themselves by the very nature of Islam.
Muslims It is time to SHAKE, SHAKE, SHAKE the devil off.