1. Yes, they are. Cf. National Socialism.
2. The United States is not trying to defeat the Islamic State, or the global jihad in general, with “a more attractive and more compelling vision.” Instead, we supervised the installations of constitutions that enshrined Sharia as the highest law of the land in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Imposing Sharia is the goal of all jihad groups, including the Islamic State. The United States has never stood in Iraq or Afghanistan, or anywhere else, for the freedom of speech, the freedom of conscience, equality of rights for women, etc. — all of which are denied in Sharia. In other words, we didn’t counter their ideas with a more attractive and compelling vision. We didn’t counter them at all, and still aren’t doing so, because to do so would be considered “Islamophobic.”
And how is he going to counter their ideology when he won’t even acknowledge what it is?
3. “Our efforts to counter violent extremism must not target any one community because of their faith or background.” If he is referring to attacks on innocent Muslims, of course, no innocent Muslims should suffer any harm or injustice. He seems to be saying more than that. The idea that it is wrong to fight Islamic jihad by paying attention to Muslim communities more than Baptist or Jewish or Hindu or Amish communities is absurd. Islamic jihad is committed by Muslims. Obama won’t even call it Islamic jihad or admit that it is a specifically Muslim phenomenon, and insofar as he diverts any resources to tracking “right-wing extremism” on the basis of bogus studies, he makes us all less safe.
“Obama’s War Speech: ‘Ideologies Are Not Defeated With Guns,’” by Charlie Spiering, Breitbart, July 6, 2015:
At the Pentagon, President Obama delivered an update on his war against Islamic State terrorism, saying that the operation would take time to defeat the terrorist organization.
“This will not be quick, this is a long-term campaign,” he asserted, describing ISIS as “nimble” and infiltrated with civilians across the Middle East.
Obama did not announce any major shifts in his strategy, but reminded reporters that the fight was “not simply a military effort.”
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,” he said.
Obama warned Americans of the increasing threat of individual acts of terror by lone wolf terrorists, but warned against targeting the region of Islam.
“Our efforts to counter violent extremism must not target any one community because of their faith or background – including patriotic Muslim Americans who are keeping our country safe,” he said.
But he admitted that ISIL was targeting Muslims.
“We also have to acknowledge that ISIL has been particularly effective at reaching out to and recruiting vulnerable people around the world including here in the United States and they are targeting Muslim communities around the world,” he said.
When asked by reporters if he was considering the use of American ground troops to defeat ISIS, he insisted that it was not under consideration.
“If we try to do everything ourselves all across the Middle East, all across North Africa, we’ll be playing ‘Whack-a-mole’ and there will be a whole lot of unintended consequences that ultimately will make us less secure,” he said.
nicu says
why he is still the President of the United States ??
Nathan says
Who knows?
Did he just say the only way to beat this violent ideology is to bend the knee and die? The leader of the most powerful nation in the history of the earth…. really?
We have to defeat them and their sick, perverted, satanic ideology….. but you can’t mention it (islam) at any point, or else be a racist or a bigot. Hmmmm Tough call.
And it’s working out so well….
Mo says
@ nicu
Oh, goodness, I was just wondering along the same lines as I read this story! How did a man with such an infantile mentality get elected to be leader of my country?
TWICE!
Peggy says
i don’t think he is silly at all. This man is very clever and dangerous.
He got to be the president by getting the votes, or so it seems. Somehow I doubt he was actually voted in.
Shane says
I used to think that those people who stated that Obama was a Muslim were crazy, but it looks like they were right. How else can you explain his refusal to acknowledge the connection between Islam and Islamic jihad and terrorism.
underbed cat says
Hey Shane…I use to think that the people who believed that Obama, was really a Christian were crazy…because Christians don’t usually have muslim names. without some connection..you have to admit he was ” brilliantly cocky” and proceeded straight away to the seize power, with the help of the already established muslim organizations, media and network waiting at his disposal. Already firmly in place were the laid out plans (doctrine) of “diversity”, taught in the schools across America, as if the U.S. was not already diverse to combat racism (civil war) voted in with racist contempt??? Everyone joyously relieved to have our first black president but he came with his ideology firmly in place it appeared to me. but the ideology can’t be truthfully revealed.
voegelinian says
Shane seems to be operating in the Explanatory Vacuum, whereby he is apparently ignoring the fact that the entire Mainstream of the West, from sea to shining sea, from Australia to America, from Europe to the UK, thinks pretty much along the same lines as the meme uttered by Obama — that Islam is not the problem, only the Tiny Minority of Extremists who are “twisting” Islam into something it’s not, and that the vast majority of Muslims just wanna have a sandwich. If you ignore that Mainstream, then yes, Obama does suddenly stand out as an anomaly.
TheBuffster says
I have to agree with Voegelinian – whatever Obama’s religion may be, if he has any, his views on Islam are the same as the views of the “politically correct” all over the world, and that viewpoint was around long before Obama got into office. It doesn’t emanate from him. He’s simply the excellent embodiment of that fairytale view of Islam and the world that wishful thinkers embrace, heart and soul (but sans mind).
Angemon says
TheBuffster posted:
“whatever Obama’s religion may be, if he has any”
I believe he was an atheist before discovering he was God.
“his views on Islam are the same as the views of the “politically correct” all over the world”
I believe it goes further than that. He seems to have an affinity for islam he does not have for, let’s say, Christianity.
TheBuffster says
Angemon said: I believe he [Obama] was an atheist before discovering he was God.
Buffster: LOL!!!
Also, I had said: “his views on Islam are the same as the views of the “politically correct” all over the world”
Angemon replied: I believe it goes further than that. He seems to have an affinity for islam he does not have for, let’s say, Christianity.
Buffster: I get that impression, too, but… there are many others on his side of politics who seem far more hostile to Christianity than to Islam, because Islam is the “other”, a Third World religion of those who have been oppressed by The West. The views of his communist family members and of the Muslims that his mother got involved with matched up nicely in regard to the capitalist, predominantly Christian, imperialist West, and he joined up with the political party that best suited that world view.
If he has a bias towards Islam for personal reasons, because of his family, or because he’s actually a closet Muslim himself, or if he’s just a believer in bringing the USA down to the level of every other nation and lifting up the “underdogs” out of breast-beating sympathy for those who have ever been under the thumb of Western imperialism, I just don’t think he’d be acting any differently than he is today. Look at stupid David Cameron. Look at the Mayor of London. They’re all crippled and blinded by Western guilt feelings – some worse than others.
Champ says
I believe he was an atheist before discovering he was God.
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Good one, Angemon!! 😀
gordon Miller says
nicu|| Why? Because first of all, we stupidly voted for him twice and second, because no one in a position to impeach him has the courage to even give it a try.
Voytek Gagalka says
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns but better ideas and more attracting and more compelling vision.”
Better ideas like what? To admit more Mohammedans to the US and make sharia crap supreme law of the land? Sure, he says so himself between his own words: to ATTRACT (more of them), thus creating MORE COMPELLING VISION (of making Islam supreme). Hey, Obama! I can see though your sneaky, lying statements, and no camouflage will protect you from exposure to any attentive listener. It doesn’t matter that you say that you “will never be at war with Islam.” THEY are at war with America! Would failing to recognize that America is at war with Japan after Pearl Harbour prevented Japan from merciless pursuing war against America?
silvergreycat says
Voytek,
*“Ideologies are not defeated with guns but better ideas and more attracting and more compelling vision.”* Mr. Obama needs to know the basis for IS’ ideology… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXBgqa-xQwY
silvergreycat says
And this possible solution… http://www.andrewbostom.org/blog/2008/02/02/sayonara-sharia-japanese-lessons-lost/
Bamaguje says
By refusing to acknowledge the obvious connection between Muslim terrorism and Islam, Obama makes it impossible to counter ISIS ideology.
It is not for nothing that tens of thousands of Muslims around the world flock to join ISIS. Al-Baghdadi’s Caliphate is clearly grounded in Islam.
William Lucas Harvey Jr. says
“Obama: “Ideologies are not defeated with guns”
BUT – those SAME “Ideologies” want to Bloody Slaughter and Butcher any “Infidel” and Non-Islamic Ideology with GUNS, as well as “Behead” with Knives, Swords, Axes, etc.
However, this IS the typical “Excuse” from an apparent Pro Islam, Pro Muslim – Pandering, Sympathizing – and obvious Anti American Values, Anti Christian “Imperial Potus” of America, who has lectured America, and the World, with words such as “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”, “Islam has always been part of America”, “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”, “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”, “ISIS the Islamic State is not Islamic” – and MORE.
Champ says
“Obama’s Feckless Foreign And Defense Policies Endanger Us All”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/steveforbes/2015/02/11/feckless-foreign-and-defense-policies-endanger-us-all/
Excerpt:
“At a recent hearing of the Senate Armed Services Committee Senator John McCain (R–Ariz.) asked Obama’s Defense Secretary nominee, Ashton Carter, if the Administration had a strategy for combating and defeating ISIS and, if it did, what that strategy was. The poor man floundered. Clearly, the answer was one everyone already knew: Obama has no plan at all.
And the whole world knows it.”
qedlin says
many thanks to the useful idiots who voted for this traitorous moron.
TheBuffster says
How about all the conservative useful idiots who friggin’ STAYED HOME because they didn’t want to vote for McCain or Romney? They wanted to teach the Republican party a lesson for not choosing a more conservative candidate? Will they do the same thing again this time if Jeb Bush is the candidate?
It’s not like Obama won by a landslide.
Carolyne says
I voted for the American.
Badbob says
Oviosly the presidents not up on current events
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Angemon says
So much for the JV team…
““Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,” he said.”
Yeah, yeah, we get it – you’re as knowledgeable of the ideology which you’re allegedly fighting against as a jackass is knowledgeable of classic Greek. Go back to cracking jokes at Trump’s expense, clown.
Right, just about anyone can be a “violent extremist” – no need to look at their background or professed ideology. Just pick some random people off the street and go from there. What could possibly go wrong?
Remember, Americans: voting for the Democrats in 2016 (whether Hilary “1%” Clinton or someone else) is voting for the same policies and paradigms held by Obama, and voting Republican is no assurance that things will change on this particular regard – ignorance of the sources of islamic terrorism seems to be a bipartisan problem.
somehistory says
It’s “Infiltrated with civilians”? Civilians are filtering through the murderous mob…on purpose?
““Our efforts to counter violent extremism must not target any one community because of their faith or background – including patriotic Muslim Americans who are keeping our country safe,” he said.”
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So, he is *warning* those who are anti-jihad not to ‘target” those who are committing jihad….
Can’t look at their “faith” or even their “background”…..NO Background Checks!
And just how….how…are muslims “keeping America safe”?
He is working for the beast from satan. This has been obvious for the entire time he has had *power.*
He will never use his power for anything but to help the beast, and build on its *image.*
Armageddon is soon to be the reality of what was prophesied so long ago.
Edward says
About the Obama video clip –
>> Breaking News<<
Pres. Obama: ISIS RECRUMENT EFFORTS "EFFECTIVE"
The staff member on the background looks terse whiles the usurper smiles!
We should wonder WHY!
He is right about this quote: “Ideologies are not defeated with guns”
He is giving us a hint (as usual)…..that the battle stratagem is not hand to hand combat. This warfare is psychologically based…..and America should quickly learn to use mind control as a deterrent. Also, The Pentagon should be using their Intel investigative capabilities to determine the enemy’s logistics MO effectively. Thousands of Jihads have been using the commercial airlines to help group their armies without anybody questioning the purpose of their traveling plans or destinations! A movement of contingent forces would be easy to track…..we have the technology to do so. It’s not a matter of profiling the individuals, but taking note of the mass movements should be indicative!
Take note: Our enemy has a 1382 year head-start on this unconventional warfare that is Spiritually Motivated.
Western Canadian says
And as long as islam (RTC) refuses to tolerate any other ideology or belief system, it will remain as it is. Disgustingly barbaric, utterly sub-animal and a threat to the survival of the human race…..
The only reason that such a vile and sick ‘ideology’ has not imploded under the weight of its own hatred, is it will murder any of its own who dare even questioning anything about it.
obama. The biggest moron/criminal ever to set foot in the White House.
Edward says
“Disgustingly barbaric, utterly sub-animal and a threat to the survival of the human race….. ” You have a good point to ponder on Western Canadian.
Ever since I first read about these barbarians I have been looking for an evidence of a consciousness’ existence. They have a cognizant ability of memory, hence their vendetta propensity to seek tribal revenge for their forefathers, but they seem not to have a hint of a moral cognizant of conscious of whatever errors they have committed…..no remorse no matter what. It seems that they don’t have to be sorry for any of their transgressions……if the Koran does not specify it!
Its a matter of Muslim Pride!
Westman says
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,”
This isn’t even half true unless you have centuries available to endure oppression. Naziism is defeated as an Empire yet the ideology still exists; too weak to threaten the world again. So Obama’s statement is an illusion; no ideology vanishes anymore than knowledge of scientific principles is lost.
Ultimately, Islam, as an Empire, such as Daesh, Iran, etc, will need to be defeated miltarily. It is both an unproven illusion and a purposeful ignorance of history to think people, infused from infancy with Supremist doctrine, and controlled by a professional Ulmah, will simply drift off to some more peaceful ideology.
Of course, the current American administration will not be in office and will disappear, like Rumsfeld and Cheney, into irrelevance, when our youth must again pay the ultimate price. They are simply marking time in a holding pattern to stabilize their place in history; “kicking the can down the road”.
awake says
To translate into historical terms. The allies’ efforts in WWII were unnecessary. They merely needed to wait out the Reich and the Holocaust until a better ideology that Nazism would inevitably rule the day.
More Ham Ed says
One could shorten oh bummer’s statement to just “Ideologies are not defeated” and it would be spot on to describe his attitude.
don vito says
jobs, Jobs, JObs, JOBs, JOBS, I say JOBS will defeat the idealogy. (snickers) LBJ-B ho.
underbed cat says
Pity the person working next to a “jobs, jobs,jobs will defeat the ideology person just hired”, who has ideas floating around in their head about taking yours.
tgusa says
ISIS is today destroying human history just as muslims for 1400 years have destroyed human (non islamic human history). Take a good close look at modern black Africa and you will find there are no historic monuments nor icons from the past, a very long past as I as an honest man must truthfully acknowledge did at some time exist. Muslims swept down from the north in Africa and captured and enslaved and sold black Africans (with the help of rival black Africans) into slavery all over the world.
The only surviving black population of that not so long ago horror of any significance that exists today is in the USA. Now we see black American residents in complete denial, total delusion as to the history of the world. It will not end well for the delusional and if i still cared I would feel sorry for them. But I don’t…sadly, all of the name calling and the smearing of us historically good people instigated by the lowest among us and followed in lock step by parts of the world have turned me into a very very, you get what you wish for and so-be-it, sort of American. God help the world when we Americans of similar thought believe and accept the same, the truth. And so dedicate myself to fight for my principles, not the US governments, and those are, defending the persecuted, the fearful and afraid, the good people of the world living in peril.
To the world,
Be very careful what you wish for because you just may get it.
Lynn says
Just more alinsky lies from the taqiyya queen Bath house Barry. We have to put up with him because we have worthless politicians more interested in their well being and maintaining it than they are interested in upholding our Constitution.
BHO practices taqiyya every time he opens his mouth. He’s said he will not abide ‘slander’ of islam. Better understand what he means by slander. It sure as heII isn’t what it means in English!
BHO wants Americans to heel. Heel to islam.
He said the wold would not belong to those who slander islam. Translated that means to those who tell the truth about islam.
Until people understand the underlying lies and evil of islam we will struggle with it.
Jaladhi says
Lynn, Americans deserve who they elected twice!! Does it say anything about the intelligence of American voters – are they dumb and fooled twice? Any answer will be appropriate!!
somehistory says
Those who *actually voted* for him, may deserve him, but there was much fraud…fraud. And there were many who did not vote for him….and all live in the same country and are being given the same rottenness.
The *rulers* of the nations who use their power to advance their own evil, hurt those who did not wish them to be ruler over them.
Just as there are people in SA, Pakistan, Iran, Turkey, …who wish for freedom from islam, there are people in the U.S., U.K., Australia, …who wish for freedom from the things being done in those countries which only advance islam and its evil.
Unfortunately when the devil rules, all people suffer….those who know he exists, and those who say he does not.
Carolyn says
Dumb enough to be fooled twice? Yes,
Red Bee says
Ideologies are not defeated by guns. Nazism, communism, white supremacists (KKK) etc. still exists and can voice their teachings protected by the constitution; the first amendment, remember? What can be defeated are the efforts by followers of the ideology to impose it on non-believers.
In the case of Islam, the jihadists can be defeated, but Islam will live on in the heads of people afflicted by it. I do mean that quite literally. Winston Churchill said:”How dreadful are the curses which Mohammedism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy, which is as dangerous as hydrophobia in a dog, there is this fearful fatalistic apathy.” and although Islam is not a viral disease, it too exists in the central nervous system in the form of chemicals and neural connections as a result of early conditioning. I explain this in more detail on my website: “Is Islam a threat?” (click my name).
So President Obama is right on this one be it for the wrong reasons as is indicated by his assertion: “Our efforts to counter violent extremism must not target any one community because of their faith or background – including patriotic Muslim Americans who are keeping our country safe”. Islam as a dangerous ideology can only be defeated by changes to the religious practices and beliefs of Muslims, especially reciting the Koran and sending their children to Koran schools.
ICH says
We used to hear about Militias in the USA.
Patriots. Anymore you hear nadda.
Its obvious my old home in UK is fecked.
But silence speaks volumes in USA-Canada.
Its OK to speak out isnt it ?
Be rational but carry a big stick.
We all know whats right and wrong.
I CANT BELIEVE AMERICA has turned wimpy.
I can see a revival of spirit coming real soon.
But what more do you need.
9-11 again ?!!!!!!
WAKE UP !!!
Rdlake says
How do we elect this inept, pathological lying POS not once, but twice. This is a guy that goes campaigning or golfing the day after people lose their heads. A Satanic high tolerance for the misery of others.
Sam says
What does this idiot know about anything anyhow. Obama is a brainwashed America hating idiot. His arrogance does not allow him to understand anything. What a disgrace to America and the world. Yes we are guilty allowing him get elected twice also.
TheBuffster says
It’s true that ideologies are not defeated with violence. The actions of an ideology’s followers can be squelched with violence, but it’s up to the surviving believers what goes on in their heads after that. Some will think it through and change, others will hold on with even more determination, hoping for a say when their moon will rise again.
ISIS and other jihadist groups can only be defeated with violence. But the only way to defeat the ideology *is* with a full and clear public exposure of the content of the Koran and the Sunna, and a thorough rational critique of it.
And even that won’t completely defeat it in the sense that nobody will believe in it anymore, but it will help to shove it into the fringes of society and wither its balls.
TheBuffster says
Ooops. That should have been “hoping for a *day* when their moon will rise again.”
Mirren10 says
Obama is as stupid as camoron.
Ideologies are not defeated with guns ? Good grief. Is this the latest PC/MC meme ?
Just off the top of my head; the Kaiser, nazism, imperial Japan …
Why aren’t there any reporters, or opposition politicians, pinning this idiot to the wall, calling him on his egregious bs ?
Mike says
This proves the man is an IDIOT!
duh_swami says
– including patriotic Muslim Americans who are keeping our country safe,” he said.
Where do they live? Do they have an office? CAIR?
Is that another way to describe ‘moderates’ that don’t actually exist? Exactly how are they keeping America safe?
Rasool Obama is full of….and it shows.
Jaladhi says
The usual gobbledygook and nonsense from Imam POTUS!! Only Muslims are clapping!!
John says
““Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,” he said.”
According to Mohammed, the Muslim Brotherhood, Boko Haram and ISIS there is no better idea nor a more attractive and compelling vision than Islam. There hasn’t been for 1400 years and there never will be.
duh_swami says
‘Ideologies cannot be defeated with guns’…Didn’t Marie Harf also say that during her famous ‘jobs’ speech? I wonder if She got that from O or he got it from her…Marie Harf is super intelligent and will be President some day, if Valarie Jarrett allows it…If you say Harf three times quickly, you’re laughing…
Bezelel says
““Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,” he said.”
We are challenged by a group who’s mission statement includes global domination by any means possible. The only more attraction or compulsion you could offer them is a more expediante means to their goal. How about letting them have nukes? Oh yeah, he’s doing that. Whatta guy!!! A f—ing genius, depending on who’s side your on.
JIMJFOX says
There WAS ONE ideology defeated by force and totally eliminated- the Samurai code of Bushido.
Japan is that single example, since Naziism is still popular in Turkey and more fundamental Islamic
states and some European countries, where it is returning on the back of Jew hatred.
However, the chances of a repeat with Islam is ZERO; Bushido had not the history of Islam behind
it, nor was it a full-blown ‘religion’ with all the free passes that apply to that sad and foolish delusion.
Neither did it have the support of 1.5 billion indoctrinated followers…
So the nuclear option looks to be out of the question. But what if the survival of civilization itself is at stake?
voegelinian says
Nazism is not a Problem Houston anymore and hasn’t been for ever half a century; hence we, in practical terms, did defeat it; hence, your bar is set irrationally high.
BommelBen says
These much better ideas are more than 200 years old: the AMERICAN CONSTITUTION.
Do I as a European have to remind you?
Hokken says
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns”
Glad Obama wasn’t in charge in june 1944.
hokken says
We all know that ideologies are not defeated with guns but it can be a temporary measure to try to save innocent lives from barbarism.
mortimer says
I agree that “Ideologies are not defeated with guns”.
Having said that, IDEOLOGUES are defeated with guns. But what is Obama going to do about the Islamism or Salafism or ‘political Islam’ that is the OFFICIAL IDEOLOGY OF SAUDI ARABIA?
Salafism created ISIS and Saudi Arabia continues to export Salafism around the world so that it is now the normative version of Islam to the exclusion of other competing versions.
Salafism is the enemy that must be fought IDEOLOGICALLY, but neither Obama’s government nor other Western governments are going to IDEOLOGICALLY debunk Salafism.
voegelinian says
No, there is no “Salafism”. That’s a fiction concocted by analysts trying to figure out a way to avoid condemning (and then opposing) Islam itself.
Edward says
I’m looking forward for that day that that the Islam-ism syndrome goes back into remission again.
Maybe after January 20, 2016. We can put the Genie back into the bottle then and sealing it forever!
Affirmed voiced convictions do manifests itself is my belief. Words with great substance can turn out to be very powerful!
Mulakush says
Ideologies are not defeated by war???
Really?
Cold war defeated Communism.
Korean war defeated communism.
World War 2 defeated Nazism and Fascism.
In our own home:
– Civil war defeated white supremism and black slavery.
– War against the British defeated monarchy and established democracy.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
BadaBOOM badaBING Mukalush! Out of the park!
See you idiots: War DOES overcome ideologies. How does it do that, Boys and Girls? Why, by KILLING
the human beings who PRACTICE them!
Keep settin’ them up and knockin’ them down Muk.
Edward says
“Affirmed voiced convictions do manifests itself is my belief. Words with great substance can turn out to be very powerful!”
Earlier I wrote the above words for the future, but after re-reading the posted comment I realized that the most important time in our lives is the present today and not the day after. If we do the right thing for America come Election Day November 3, 2015; by voting our conscious for a reasonable cause and not by emotions, just to feel good, the tomorrow’s will be rewarded by our manifested “affirmed voiced convictions.”
Linda Rivera says
One Muslim in Europe described Muslim excitement over the rapid advances of ISIS, declaring, “Muslims are PROUD of ISIS.”
But Muslim Obama who occupies the White House is ISIS Monsters biggest fan and huge admirer. Obama is determined that his bloodthirsty ISIS hero savages are going to win.
Obama blocked the delivery of heavy weapons urgently needed by the Kurd fighters.
Obama’s hands are stained with the blood of innocents and his soul darkened by the screams of the captured sex slave victims.
abad says
And why not.
Obama is ISL’s biggest supporter, isn’t he?
Jae M says
So he is basically saying he has no plan. Every so often he will get on the podium to say “this will take time”.
Mark I. says
Obama thinks he can talk evil people to death. Delusional.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Seriously so Mark.
Obama and his ilk? These are ‘men’ who, if their wife or daughters were being raped, would stand by and do NOTHING. But talk. And call the cops (whom they otherwise ridicule and detest).
tilda says
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,” he said.
PROBLEM: Obama has not specied what he thinks is the better idea or the more attractive or compelling ideology.
Perhaps someone needs to pin him down on this.
At the moment, what he has said is nothing more than totally ambiguous [meaningless]. (Subtext: what side is he on?)
tilda says
Correction: specified NOT specied
tilda says
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision,” he said.
PROBLEM: Obama has not specified what he thinks is the better idea or the more attractive or compelling ideology.
Perhaps someone needs to pin him down on this.
At the moment, what he has said is nothing more than totally ambiguous [meaningless]. (Subtext: what side is he on?)
Dr Nath says
President Obama’s position is more or less apologetic in the face of failed policies to contain ISIS and identical organizations that have ruined lives and properties in most bizarre and unimaginable ferocity about which the only existing super power of the world seem helpless and would have to posthumously apologize to the ideology of Hitler that was prematurely terminated with guns . In the face of the rude destructions and massive human killings and inadequacies that everyone was expecting the USA to show leadership in halting the madness, the Present asserts in part as follows;-
“This will not be quick, this is a long-term campaign,” he asserted, describing ISIS as “nimble” and infiltrated with civilians across the Middle East……..
“Ideologies are not defeated with guns, they are defeated by better ideas, a more attractive and more compelling vision”
One expects the Present to address Islam teaching upon which Jihad is solidly predicated, Should the concept of Jihad regardless of the interpretation be acceptable in modern society? Should converts to religion be achieved by coercion which is emphatically what all Jihads seek to achieve? How did the youths across the world become so cruelly aware about the requirements of Jihad that it becomes incumbent on them to be involved as a religious requirement in obedient to their prophet the Messenger of their god Allah? Who is a true Moslem among the non violent and peace loving elders who grew up violence averse or the aggressive, effectively aware of the Islamic teachings as contain in the Holy Book the Koran including kill and get killed and go to Paradise and strike the neck of the infidels as you engage him and he is resistant to conversion by force?
If the leader of the free world choose to be blind to the obvious reality of the very threat in Islamic injunctions, the younger generation’s access to those teaching through face book of other aspects of social media instruments on news dissemination, censuring those inimical injunction by Imams in Mosques will not hinder brutal jihad because it is approved by their God about which it will tantamount to unfaithfulness to do otherwise. That explain why even Imams and the other fellow Muslins are exterminated in their very defenseless Mosques across the affected area because their practices and teachings deviated from the information available the text.
Whether it will be a long campaign to overcome depends on the leaders’ approaches and profound understanding of and willingness to reoriented the contents of the very source of Jihad aggression It has to be nipped on the bud for sanity to prevail. Other religious bodies can also organize their own jihads with entirely different name but same concept to protect their members who have suffered enough brutality patiently waiting on developed democracies to contain the Islamic aggression to which now apologetic stance is expressed. The President does not know that in North Africa and in the Middle East, some Churches were burnt and some rudely converted to Mosques which action indeed brought fear to an ordained British Anglican Minister to gather Muslims to enter their Church to conduct their prayers if that would insulated him from destruction. Sure, if guns cannot defeat ideology in the eyes of the President what else can? Hitler conceived an ideology but was defeated by guns with the ideology of the German’s supremacy aborted.. Islam theorized ideology too hidden in their text with identical territorial grabbing intention as as Hitler but industrialization and modernization suffocated the comprehension of the Islamic ideology till the sudden awareness of such groups as vanguards as ISIS, Al Qaeda. Hamas, Boko Haram and a host of others.
America and the United Kingdom and their allies fought Hitler ideology and defeated when their leader and citizens of the time believed in and memorized “The Lord is My Sheppard and I shall not want….. Even though I walk through the Shadow of death, I shall fear no evil…. “ Today that famous inscription and even Bibles are gradually being abandoned and removed creating a vacuum in the pursuit of affluence. It is that vacuum that the other ideology is fighting to replace or complimented by Allah Ya Hakuba with even the most hard to imagine subscribing silently to the ideology of same God but worshipped differently rendering the essence of the virgin birth, death and resurrection meaningless..
That ideologies are not defeated by guns is totally a utopian assumption resolved upon as an excuse to not willing to offend anyone in the face of the ISIS threat to kill the Pope and Queen and hoist their flag ultimately on the White House an ambition it is bent on achieving with the compromise and do nothing approach of the leaders and the led. This generation of leaders will have to call up Hitler and apologize to him and his defeated ideology that was crushed by guns. The Cuba ideology is allowed to die without use of gun because it did not declare open physical war on any country. Islam through its springboard declared war on America and every other no fundamentalist countries and are aggressively recruiting from all countries including USA and England.Simalarly, Boko Haram disorganized a greater portion os that West African country , Nigeria , kidnapped school girls and a host of others working as an alliance of ISIS. The civilized democracies could determine a solution to the Isalmic uprising that had cost deplorable fortune in properties and human lives. It tantamount to child’s play for any one country to assume the ascription of Super power if Islamic Jihads could not be deterred by the assumed military superiority of super power. Soon other insurrections shall emerge from other countries similar in ferocity and killings sharing identical Islamic supremacists ideology President Obama conceded to as not being capable for defeat by guns. The outcome wouls be unimaginable.
The American seat of power. Hitler had an ideology which was defeated to lay foundation to the growth of democracy. ISIS and all Jihadists espouse one central ideology which is the supremacy of their God as opposed and the enthronement of it accompanying Sharia across the world akin to the threat that precipitated to the great war.